[00:43] <madmangun> Upgraded today and the left/right mouse click didn't work and I couldn't even bring up a shell or use function keys.  Renamed ./local/share/gnome-shell and rebooted.  That corrected the issue.
[00:45] <madmangun> To be more precise, I was already on 18.04 as of last beta.  Upgraded from yesterday to today and had the issue
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> lvrp16: logout and choose wayland at login
[05:02] <lvrp16> can i set it systemwide via a config file?
[05:02] <lvrp16> this is a bootstrapped image
[05:03] <lvrp16> lotuspsychje: so that new users default to wayland
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> not sure sorry lvrp16 
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> lvrp16: maybe check with systemd
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !systemd
[05:21] <flocculant> morning lotuspsychje :)
[05:22] <lvrp16> lotuspsychje: thanks for the help
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> mornin flocculant 
[06:31] <Laibsch> Can somebody help me understand what's going on in bug 991471? It still affects bionic and I'd like to see what I can do to get it fixed. IOW, how does the automatic mounting happen?
[06:36] <arsdragonfly> Newly upgraded to Ubuntu Studio 18.04 beta. Black screen after boot. Htop on tty1 shows lightdm has started. Any ideas?
[07:25] <eoli3n> Hi
[07:25] <eoli3n> will netboot installer be realease the same day that desktop installer ?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> arsdragonfly: wich graphics card and xorg or wayland?
[07:33] <arsdragonfly> Nvidia 970m on a laptop and xorg
[07:34] <arsdragonfly> lotuspsychje: I just spent some time tracking it down and I think it should be this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752739
[07:35] <arsdragonfly> The fix for that is still not working for many other users, and I think I'm one of them
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> arsdragonfly: did you try !nomodeset to get in?
[07:37] <arsdragonfly> Yes absolutely
[07:37] <arsdragonfly> No luck
[07:37] <arsdragonfly> wait what's the ! Is that a typo
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> arsdragonfly: ubuntu-desktop works good?
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset
[07:38] <arsdragonfly> Oh a bot command
[07:39] <arsdragonfly> I don't think it has anything to do with ubutustudio-desktop
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> arsdragonfly: could be, how about other driver versions?
[07:42] <arsdragonfly> That's a good point, haven't tried that yet
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> arsdragonfly: ubuntu-drivers list to check whats availabe
[07:57] <peter-bittner> Where do I report issues related to touch screen support (touch screen on notebooks, e.g. the Lenovo X1 Carbon or Dell convertibles - probably hardware independent)? Specifically, GNOME Shell "Show application" button (lower left corner) and Firefox (2-finger) scrolling, all in Ubuntu 18.04.
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> peter-bittner: i think you might wanna open a new bug for that
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> !bug | peter-bittner 
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> peter-bittner: it would help the community if you report this problem
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> and help yourself
[08:20] <Yamboy1> Read the topic?
[08:21] <Yamboy1> What topic?
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> Yamboy1: can we help you?
[08:25] <Yamboy1> oh i get it now
[08:25] <Yamboy1> not right now
[08:25] <Yamboy1> but i'll probably have some questions when my laptop finally updates
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> Yamboy1: you can look in the future?
[08:45] <eoli3n> Hi
[08:46] <eoli3n> will netboot installer be realease the same day that desktop installer ?
[09:11] <peter-bittner> > it would help the community if you report this problem
[09:11] <peter-bittner> Great, my question re reporting the two bugs is: which is the appropriate package or component?
[09:16] <brainwash> peter-bittner: gnome-shell and/or libinput
[09:18] <peter-bittner> brainwash: Thanks! ... and the Firefox issue?
[09:19] <brainwash> peter-bittner: is that issue specific to firefox only?
[09:24] <peter-bittner> Well, Thunderbird's chat window has the same issue, but the GNOME Editor seems to handle two-finger scrolling correctly (though slowly). Some applications work perfectly fine (e.g. Franz multi-chat), so probably an issue with a specific library the Mozilla lads are using? 
[09:27] <brainwash> peter-bittner: could be
[09:55] <peter-bittner> brainwash: If it's apparently (just) Thunderbird and Firefox would it still be appropriate to report the issue on Launchpad somewhere? If yes, where?
[10:08] <yunes_> HI
[10:08] <yunes_> hello
[10:08] <yunes_> ??
[10:08] <yunes_> ؟؟
[11:16] <amharris> Hi, folks.  A buddy of mine updated from 17.10 (with Wayland, and Xorg having been removed as cleanup) to the latest 18.04 on his laptop, last night, but was faced with "Started GNOME display manager" ...and then nothing, but no prompt.  He says that Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't work [I'm across the pond from him, so seeing and helping in person isn't going to work].  Getting into recovery and adding bionic-proposed
[11:16] <amharris> to `sources.list` is fine, but getting a network connection to actually update and try installing dependencies that allegedly fix the problem isn't possible.  Suggestions on another way to approach this?
[11:33] <sveinse> I suppose since I'm running 18.04, this is a question here: My trashcan in gnome isn't working, I'm getting messages that files cant be moved to trash. OOI, what is the setup required for having trash?
[11:49] <brainwash> sveinse: maybe check ownership of ~/.local/share/Trash
[11:49] <brainwash> other than that, I would test with a second user account
[12:04] <Andreas__> sveinse: or are you lacking permission to move the files you are trying to trash? (though I believe the "move to trash" option should not be visible if that's the case) at least where I tested just now.
[12:05] <sveinse> brainwash: I'm using a second fs mounted on /srv, which this file sits. Where relative to this drive is it attempting to put the trash?
[12:06] <sveinse> becuase I'm perhaps thinking that the top-level trash dir on this fs is missing and not permitted to be created
[12:14] <amharris> Has anyone any suggestions re. the no GUI/GNOME failing issue I mentioned earlier, post-upgrade [NVIDIA GPU]?  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2386053 is what I found last night to be most accurate.
[12:24] <Andreas__> amharris, I have no idea what the problem is. do you know if your buddy can boot a live usb/cd and use "try ubuntu"? maybe it's possible to get a network connection there and you could remote into that session and continue debugging remotely?
[12:28] <Andreas__> sveinse, can you run this in the root of the mounted volume? sudo mkdir .Trash-$UID && sudo chown $USER:$USER .Trash-$UID
[12:29] <amharris> Andreas__: That's arguably a possibility; but remote debugging aside, do you know how/if--through the use of a live USB/CD--it's possible to update/install packages onto an existing installation on the drive?
[12:29] <amharris> Basically, to use that to access a connection and update what's already installed.  After all, bionic-proposed is allegedly all that's necessary.
[12:31] <amharris> Andreas__: He should actually be online soon, at a place where he'll have access to Ethernet.  I'm just hoping that an Ethernet driver gets loaded in recovery -> root
[12:32] <sveinse> Andreas__: I have. My /home is bind mounted to /srv/home, and /srv is another drive. I've tested with having .Trash on either /srv or on /home, but neither seems to work immediately. I probably have to logout first, so I'll try it again later.
[12:33] <sveinse> (or, gnome doesn't support bind mounting and is confused by it)
[12:51] <Andreas__> amharris, I'm also on a laptop with a nvidia gpu. I did a fresh install again a couple of hour ago, and most things are working as they should. So I'm not sure what the problem is.
[12:51] <Andreas__> amharris, this might work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure
[12:52] <amharris> Andreas__: Thanks.  Also, being fair, I think my buddy may have forgotten to trigger "enable networking" in recovery.
[12:52] <amharris> Andreas__: Never having had to use that option, I assume it's just a state toggle and you can proceed to the root shell recovery after?
[12:53] <amharris> If so, then this should hopefully all work
[12:54] <amharris> Andreas__: This is what he saw upon the first reboot [it was hanging here]: https://a.uguu.se/M0p3fHma4515.jpg
[12:54] <amharris> Another time, this happened: https://a.uguu.se/2W46dZlpYLr7.jpg
[13:02] <Andreas__> amharris, if it's gpu related it might be worth a try to test nomodeset when booting. Adding the nomodeset parameter instructs the kernel to not load video drivers and use BIOS modes instead until X is loaded. https://askubuntu.com/a/38834
[13:04] <amharris> Andreas__: Cheers.  Yeah, I've seen that suggestion before, but never had to use it [luckily!]  I think we tend to learn most when we break things ...after fixing them, of course. ;-)
[13:04] <amharris> Andreas__: I do first think we'll see what happens by using what's in bionic-proposed.
[13:05] <amharris> After that, then this route; and after that, Live USB/CD.
[14:01] <forester> Hi. I use ubuntu-mate beta2 and have some issues.
[14:02] <forester> keyboard preferences -> typing break -> 2 (two) red/green strips (lines) are on the panel instead of only one.
[14:03] <forester> When I use this option there are 2 indicators instead of 1.
[14:03] <forester> on system tray (panel)
[14:05] <forester> When I used brightness applet with default kernel, then on my notebook the backlight did not work untill I have changed the default kernel to my custom kernel from previous LinuxMint installation.
[14:07] <forester> Now I use 4.14.27-gnu-rt21 kernel and brightness applet on system tray (in Mate) works and I can change a brightness of display.
[14:11] <forester> 3. I use GoldenDict. And there is an icon of it on the system tray. And when you click on it you should see the popup submenu. But this does not work (an issue).
[14:12] <forester> Total: There are 3 issues. One of them is because of default linux kernel.
[14:28] <forester> Was this helpful for you?
[14:40] <forester> I am waiting your backfeed.
[16:43] <PsychoBoB> guys
[16:43] <PsychoBoB> why ubuntu bionic is too slow with chrome /
[16:43] <PsychoBoB> ?
[16:44] <nacc> PsychoBoB: chrome is not an ubuntu package, fyi
[16:44] <PsychoBoB> what the browser native
[16:44] <nacc> PsychoBoB: firefox, chromium, i think are both packaged
[16:45] <PsychoBoB> chromium is better 
[16:45] <PsychoBoB> ?7
[16:45] <PsychoBoB> ?
[16:45] <PsychoBoB> that ubuntu??
[16:45] <PsychoBoB> for ubuntu
[16:45] <PsychoBoB> sorry
[16:45] <nacc> PsychoBoB: i don't know about 'better' or what... also i have no issue with chrome on 18.04
[16:46] <PsychoBoB> ?
[16:47] <nacc> PsychoBoB: you got quieted for spamming the channel
[16:47] <nacc> PsychoBoB: chromium is an ubuntu package, so it can be supported here; but also chrome works fine for many (afaik)
[17:19] <Hans-Martin> hiya, since I switched to bionic the ownCloud client does not work anymore since it does not find "org.kde.kwalletd". It seems that bionic by default supports the KDE5 version, kwalletd5, only. Is that correct?
[17:28] <nacc> Hans-Martin: owncloud-client from ubuntu?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> ok, someone here has a kde/plasma issue ?
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: <Hans-Martin> hiya, since I switched to bionic the ownCloud client does not work anymore since it does not find "org.kde.kwalletd". It seems that bionic by default supports the KDE5 version, kwalletd5, only. Is that correct?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> Hans-Martin, sorry I have no experience with owncloud 
[18:04] <donfluffles> i was upgrading to ubuntu 18.04 from ubuntu 17.10 but i pressed details and i dont know how to return to the selection
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> donfluffles: its not yet reccomended to upgrade yet till final
[18:05] <donfluffles> okay my terminal will stay with the details infinitely
[18:05] <donfluffles> lotuspsychje, that doesnt even stick with what i was saying
[18:07] <donfluffles> i dont want to close it to not kill its process
[18:10] <Hans-Martin> donfluffles: at what stage of the upgrade are you? where did you press details? Normally you can't damage anything unless it has really started to upgrade.
[18:11] <ducasse> donfluffles: try pressing 'q'
[18:11] <Hans-Martin> donfluffles: or ESC
[18:13] <donfluffles> i pressed ESC
[18:13] <donfluffles> it didnt start upgrading
[18:13] <forester> donfluffles: What application do you use for upgrading?
[18:13] <donfluffles> and i was gonna press no either way
[18:14] <donfluffles> forester, i used the terminal
[18:15] <donfluffles> i dont sympathize ubuntu
[18:15] <forester> when I use a terminal and don't want to proceed some task, then I just close the terminal. It works for me.
[18:15] <donfluffles> its way too complexic
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> donfluffles: you already have been told not to troll
[18:16] <Hans-Martin> donfluffles: then upgrading to a pre-release version is a bad idea. Just don't do it.
[18:16] <donfluffles> ...
[18:16] <donfluffles> why
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> donfluffles: saying ubuntu is complex is only your opinion
[18:17] <Hans-Martin> because you will get terminals hung up in whatever process, and it's too complex for you to understand, and you come here and whine :-)
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> its not reality
[18:17] <donfluffles> it may have fatal bugs but theyll get fixed once ill upgrade to the final release
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> donfluffles: also i just told you its not very recommended yet to upgrade to bionic
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> donfluffles: download the daily image and install?
[18:18] <donfluffles> no i dont like ubuntu 18.04's desktop etc
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> donfluffles: so why upgrade?
[18:19] <donfluffles> beaver background looks like a 5 minute work
[18:19] <donfluffles> for some errors to get fixed
[18:19] <donfluffles> many and varied errors get fixed during an update
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> donfluffles: ok stop it now please
[18:20] <donfluffles> what is it
[18:21] <donfluffles> fine im leaving so i wont "whine" anymore ill go and let the terminal hit me in the ass
[18:32] <Ian_Corne> i
[18:46] <BionicMac> Hello ladies and gentlemen. =) 
[18:46] <BionicMac> I'm thinking it si time to just jump in head first here -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigratingToNetplan 
[19:58] <Guest57597> is there anybody using ubuntu 18.04 with nvidia gpu?
[19:59] <SlidingHorn> !ask | Guest57597 out with it!  :)
[19:59] <SlidingHorn> Guest57597: you might want to pick a more unique nick so others can more easily help as well
[20:01] <teeramisu> i cant see gdm greeter with nvidia driver, have you this issue?
[20:03] <SlidingHorn> teeramisu: I didn't...can you get to a TTY terminal and review your gdm logs in /var/log/gdm/ 
[20:09] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn /var/log/gdm not exist /var/log/gdm3 is empty
[20:10] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: gdm opening but i only see purple background gdm greeter shows in second/unknown screen
[20:12] <SlidingHorn> teeramisu: so it thinks there are 2 displays, and there are not?
[20:12] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: its like this https://launchpadlibrarian.net/363805859/bug_screenshot.png
[20:12] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: not
[20:14] <SlidingHorn> I'm confused.
[20:16] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: nvidia detects 2 screen but there is no 2 screen and gdm's primary screen is unknown/nonexistent screen
[20:17] <SlidingHorn> If you're using the nvidia driver, use  nvidia-settings  to remove the "second" screen from the configuration
[20:20] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: https://serving.photos.photobox.com/390679832daec9f2857946a8475110a209af3ebad8ed97958931630b0efab164b6b25f68.jpg
[20:22] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1762200
[20:24] <SlidingHorn> so apply what's possible, save configuration to your x configuration file (button below apply) and restart x (log out)
[20:26] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: it says "Failed to generate X config file!"
[20:31] <SlidingHorn> teeramisu: how did you launch the nvidia-settings application?
[20:32] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: from activities
[20:33] <SlidingHorn> try doing it with the terminal:   gksu nvidia-settings   and try again
[20:35] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: This is withot root access https://gist.github.com/Parduk/4c3c00e373e1c1ef7688b88c8814b44c
[20:37] <SlidingHorn> teeramisu: use     gksu nvidia-settings
[20:37] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: same output with gksu
[20:39] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: and i cant find xorg.conf where is location?
[20:39]  * SlidingHorn has to step away for a bit - maybe someone can take over in the meantime
[20:40] <teeramisu> SlidingHorn: not in /etc/x11
[21:24] <am_ex> hi all
[21:24] <am_ex>  I have a problem with my 2,4GHz wireless mouse when I try to copy some files via USB 3.0... Mouse cursor is freezing and moving trajectory is partial... Who knows how can I solve this problem?
[21:24] <am_ex> My system is Ubuntu 18.04, SSD 512, 16Gb DDR3, USB3.0, Mouse Logitech Anywhere MX 2
[22:03] <Andreas__> Anyone else having troubles with missing characters prior to login? bug 1765384 
[22:23] <teeramisu> Andreas__:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1760201
[22:44] <Andreas__> teeramisu: thanks, marked mine as duplicate.
[22:56] <howarth> Interesting. I had to do a clean reinstall of bionic because proposed messed up the boot and now it looks like google chromes menu widget is finally showing up
[22:57] <howarth> Unclear if this is a fix in gnome-shell or if the 66.x release of chrome fixed it