[00:01] <RoadRunner> thanks for all the help :)
[00:01] <madman_> has anyone upgraded today *ubuntu 18.04 and the keyboard and mouse stopped working?
[00:03] <madman_> I can load GDM fine.  and CTRL+ALT+F2 to bring up a terminal and I can type.  However if I load Ubuntu no keyboard at all
[00:04] <madman_> I apologize, I do have mouse movement, clicking doesn't work
[00:05] <madman_> capslock, numlock etc work fine.  unable to click anything etc
[00:06] <madman_> wow, nevermind keyboard does work.  several odd things going on after this update
[00:10] <harris> if i buy a 128 gb flash drive can I do all three of the following at once  1) have a usb installer of ubuntu  2) have a usb installer of windows  3) use it as a normal flashdrive
[00:11] <madman_> nevermind, created a new user and can login fine, somethings wrong with gnome on my primary user account.  moving on
[00:12] <madman_> anyone have a clue why the touchpad doesn't work on my primary gnome user account but on a different one? wow
[00:13] <rdh> permissions?
[00:14] <madman_> alt+f2 doesn't even work.
[00:17] <pragmaticenigma> harris, no, USB flash media doesn't support partitioning like a traditional harddrives
[00:21] <bugzbunny> pragmaticenigma: No
[00:21] <bugzbunny> it can
[00:21] <bugzbunny> I've tried it before
[00:21] <ericrajuin> hello
[00:22] <bugzbunny> If Linux sees as USB Disk
[00:22] <bugzbunny> You can partition it
[00:22] <ericrajuin> can I use a .deb built from one version of ubuntu, and use it to install on another version of ubuntu ?
[00:22] <pragmaticenigma> bugzbunny, we're not talking about linux... The computer's controllers and BIOS need to be able to support multiple partitions on USB media, which they don't
[00:22] <leftyfb> ericrajuin: yes, but it's not really supported
[00:23] <bugzbunny> pragmaticenigma: I've tried that as well
[00:23] <bugzbunny> pragmaticenigma: my BIOS sees it
[00:23] <ericrajuin> the .deb is made with "make && checkinstall --install"
[00:23] <ericrajuin> so I can simply copy it over ?
[00:24] <leftyfb> ericrajuin: try it
[00:24] <madman_> FYI for anyone else that has the problem I had.  renamed ~/local/share/gnome-shell to ~/local/share/gnome-shell-old <- Logged in and keyboard mouse are working
[00:24] <ericrajuin> leftyfb: okay thanks
[00:25] <madman_> Obviously some dumb *** issue with an extension or gnome update from yesterday to today.
[00:26] <bugzbunny> You can partion USB Disk, as normal DISK
[00:27] <bugzbunny> BIOS should see it as a NORMAL DISK
[00:47] <enjoi> ahoy!
[00:48] <pragmaticenigma> hello enjoi
[00:48] <enjoi> How goes it
[00:48] <StoneCypher> poorly.  nvidia drivers are weirdly difficult
[00:49] <enjoi> ick
[00:49] <enjoi> uname -a output?
[00:49] <enjoi> or dist version even
[00:49] <StoneCypher> it's ubuntu 17.10 x64
[00:49] <enjoi> ah
[00:50] <enjoi> Symptoms?
[00:50] <enjoi> and what nvidia card
[00:50] <StoneCypher> when i had the card as the dominant card, -384 and -390 worked, but -387 caused crashing.  now that i've switched to the onboard video card, -390 causes crashing too.
[00:50] <StoneCypher> a 1080 8g founders' (not ti)
[00:51] <StoneCypher> i wanted to stick with -390 but every time i installed cuda it overwrote it with -387
[00:51] <StoneCypher> if i reinstalled -390 afterwards cuda would insist that i had a too low version, even though -390 is higher than -387
[00:52] <StoneCypher> -396 beta had the same results as -390
[00:52] <StoneCypher> cuda 9.1 requires 387 or better, so i don't think i can roll down to 384
[00:52] <StoneCypher> i'm worried i need to switch to older ubuntu and 9.0
[00:53] <enjoi> hm
[00:53] <underd0g> hello
[00:54] <athena_> hello, im running a 16.04 i386 laptop. i just booted the os via usb, i have external hardrive that worked before the switch but not now.. why?
[00:54] <athena_> a mounting issue i assume?
[00:56] <enjoi> Have you yet tried on bionic beaver actually?
[00:56] <enjoi> @ StoneCypher
[00:56] <enjoi> or maybe 16.04 if bionic beta2 is not a route you wish to take
[00:56] <enjoi> Try it on a live usb stick ;)
[00:56] <enjoi> Maybe even switch the kernel around if you need, this way you don't mess anything up in your stable environment
[00:56] <StoneCypher> i don't know what bionic beaver is
[00:56] <StoneCypher> i thought aardvark was the current?
[00:56] <StoneCypher> if you mean "did i try future 17," no, i didn't
[00:57] <enjoi> It is Ubuntu 18
[00:57] <enjoi> :P
[00:57] <pragmaticenigma> StoneCypher, bionic is the next LTS release. presently in beta, released next week
[00:57] <athena_> oh. theres a new lts?
[00:57] <pragmaticenigma> enjoi, there is no Ubuntu 18... you must include the full version number to help differentiate between the two releases offered each year
[00:57] <athena_> i know about 17
[00:57] <pragmaticenigma> enjoi, there is no Ubuntu 17... you must include the full version number to help differentiate between the two releases offered each year
[00:58] <StoneCypher> oh
[00:58] <StoneCypher> no, i didn't know there was an lts coming out next week and haven't tried it
[00:58] <StoneCypher> i'd be willing t
[00:59] <StoneCypher> do you think it will help?
[00:59] <enjoi> hence uname -a remark
[00:59] <athena_> i have a mounting issue in linux 16.04 can any one help?
[00:59] <enjoi> what are you trying to mount?
[00:59] <pragmaticenigma> StoneCypher, since the actual release is next week, I'd wait for the images release... save some time downloading updates
[00:59] <underd0g> athena_: try df -h or lsblk to see if it mounted
[00:59] <StoneCypher> i don't want to wait a week to get started
[01:00] <StoneCypher> would i be better off on older ubuntu?  this is a really vanilla machine and i don't understand why it doesn't run video drivers safetly
[01:00] <pragmaticenigma> StoneCypher, do you have the specialized PPA for video drivers enabled?
[01:01] <underd0g> athena_: if it mounted try this syntax using your mount points : mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/disk
[01:02] <athena_> i tried both. it does not mount, theres no diffrence pluged in or not
[01:02] <athena_> its on, i feel it moving. lol
[01:05] <underd0g> athena_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/285539/detect-and-mount-devices
[01:08] <pragmaticenigma> athena_, does syslog show anything that might be of use?
[01:08] <pragmaticenigma> athena_, or even dmesg?
[01:09] <enjoi> have you tried threatening it with a screwdriver
[01:09] <athena_> im reading/ checking.. give me a minute
[01:09] <underd0g> enjoi: works everytime
[01:12] <athena_> dmesg registers device 5. its right. still reading..
[01:12] <athena_> thanks
[01:16] <athena_> all of you here, thanks for keeping with it
[01:18] <bugzbunny> athena_: Yes, the new 18.05 I think, is the new LTS
[01:18] <bugzbunny> !lts
[01:19] <athena_> 18.05. is doing some work then?
[01:19] <pragmaticenigma> bugzbunny, the next version of Ubuntu is 18.04 Bionic Beaver ... please check facts before posting
[01:19] <pragmaticenigma> !bionic | bugzbunny
[01:20] <athena_> thumbs up
[01:21] <bugzbunny> What's the ! for the next version of ubuntu
[01:23] <bugzbunny> !date
[01:23] <bugzbunny> !lts
[01:23] <bugzbunny> !hlep
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> !msgthebot | bugzbunny
[01:23] <leftyfb> bugzbunny: please stop
[01:23] <bugzbunny> No
[01:23] <bugzbunny> I am asking how to use the bot to dertermine the next lts
[01:23] <bugzbunny> !lts
[01:23] <leftyfb> bugzbunny: you were just given instructions
[01:23] <bugzbunny> k
[01:23] <bugzbunny> leftyfb: I don't like you and I don't like you
[01:23] <athena_> white beast here.. thanks you
[01:23] <bugzbunny> leftyfb: Why are you talking to me
[01:23] <arooni> having trouble mounting a usb connected drive to my router;  on ubuntu 16.04;  i can navigate via network... but when i try //192.168.1.1/Main /media/HardDriveArooni cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777,gid=1000,vers=1.0 0 0; i get mount error(6)
[01:23] <bugzbunny> To prove that I am damaging, you just enough evidence to prove that
[01:23] <bugzbunny> ban me
[01:23] <leftyfb> !op | bugzbunny
[01:39] <quidnunc> Why can't I see @ when I mount my btrfs root partition using sudo mount /dev/sda1?
[01:39] <leftyfb> quidnunc: see what?
[01:40] <quidnunc> leftyfb: The directory @
[01:40] <leftyfb> quidnunc: why do you have a directory named @ ?
[01:41] <quidnunc> leftyfb: I thought that was where the default subvol resided
[01:42] <leftyfb> quidnunc: sorry, if that's a btrfs thing, I'm not familiar with it
[01:49] <cfhowlett> !btrfs | quidnunc perhaps this??
[01:58] <guiverc> quidnunc:  i just mounted a btrfs, and i have no '@' directory using `ls`.  i do note some subvol=/@/.. listed in `mount` but no real directory called `@`
[01:59] <leftyfb> quidnunc: why do you think you need it?
[02:00] <quidnunc> leftyfb: I need to revert a snapshot
[02:00] <quidnunc> leftyfb: The easiest way I can think of was to rename the directory
[02:00] <leftyfb> quidnunc: pretty sure there's proper tools for that. Not going through some backend directory
[02:01] <quidnunc> leftyfb: There's snapper rollback but that doesn't work on Ubuntu
[02:01] <john_rambo> Is there an alternative app that can read .ODS file ?.....Libreoffice is too heavy for my PC
[02:01] <leftyfb> quidnunc: Did you read the documentation that says it's not supported on Ubuntu?
[02:02] <leftyfb> john_rambo: google docs
[02:02] <john_rambo> leftyfb, Any offline app ?
[02:02] <quidnunc> leftyfb: No, I read a bug report
[02:03] <guiverc> john_rambo: there are a few; koffice (which changed name, it escapes me), I also think gnumeric will use them..  (a check shows it'll save as ods)
[02:04] <john_rambo> guiverc, Checking gnumeric now
[02:06] <guiverc> calligre-office is I think more modern name of koffice...
[03:07] <mal10c> ls
[03:07] <mal10c> clear
[03:07] <mal10c> oops.... wrong window :-)
[03:07] <SlidingHorn> no worries :)
[03:17] <stephen101> so i got a issue getting my audio to work with my gpu rx580. followed this guide and no change. https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[03:18] <stephen101> pulse audio seems to not be playing nice  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4YHmFSZXRj/
[03:25] <SlidingHorn> stephen101: have you logged out & in?
[03:25] <stephen101> yes
[03:26] <SlidingHorn> (always have to check just in case...let me see how my search-fu is working tonight)
[03:26] <stephen101> running through this checklist atm
[03:26] <stephen101> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[03:26] <stephen101> just reinstalled pulse, will see how this goes.
[03:30] <stephen101> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d04b85b08afe82dc51ba175a3d498c890853a682 the log i got from running wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[03:33] <keyur> hello
[03:34] <stephen101> hi
[04:09] <zhangxaochen> 'apt install' says a lib is already installed, while it cannot find the lib file it needs, why is this happening? http://codepad.org/8WV5QYWd
[04:18] <eraserpencil> How do I know what the output of "ps -aux" shows? Possible to show column titles?
[04:19] <zanshin> eraserpencil: You could read the `ps` man page, or use explainshell.com: https://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=ps+-aux
[04:21] <eraserpencil> thanks, I couldnt find how to display the column titles from the man page
[04:28] <zanshin> eraserpencil: The column headings should be displayed by default - it may be that the lenght of the output pushes them off the page. You can add `--headers` to force the headers to be repeated once per page of output
[04:35] <eraserpencil> nope
[04:35] <eraserpencil> no change
[04:59] <lvrp16> do you guys know how to set wayland as the default session for gdm3 systemwide?
[04:59] <lvrp16> this is on 18.04 bionic
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> lvrp16: #ubuntu+1 for bionic please
[05:01] <mpl0de> et
[05:02] <lvrp16> lotuspsychje: thanks
[05:05] <keyur> hello
[05:28] <john_rambo> I am trying to configure my Gmail (pop3) a/c with Claws-Mail ...Its ending with >>>Authentication failed:-ERR [AUTH] Web login required: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754
[05:28] <john_rambo> What's the solution ?
[05:38] <john_rambo> Any ideas?
[05:42] <SlidingHorn> john_rambo: I'm assuming you have an email within your gmail account alerting you that you have a "less secure" method of connection and have to manually approve it on the actual gmail web application
[05:43] <john_rambo> SlidingHorn, I need to log via the web interface and change the settings ?
[05:43] <SlidingHorn> john_rambo: I don't even think there would be any actual settings to change, just an approval
[06:24] <barq> When I do apt-get update I get the following error: W: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security Release' does not have a Release file. Any ideas how to fix this?
[06:31] <arsdragonfly>  Newly upgraded to Ubuntu Studio 18.04 beta. Black screen after boot. Htop on tty1 shows lightdm has started. Any ideas?
[06:35] <hateball> arsdragonfly: 18.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <Guest44110> hello
[06:50] <Vince_> quit
[06:57] <repz> Hi there! I'm having a specific question for you guys. I reinstalled my office desktop under xubuntu monday because i was just tired of windows and our admins sh*t. Everything is ok except with my keyboard, a Corsair K70. Whenever I press the luminosity switcher button, the keyboard doesn't answer anymore, not even numlock led or whatever. Does someone have any helpful inpout ?
[06:58] <Haris> hello all
[06:58] <Haris> during install of xenial, we don't have get to have option of making LVM based partitions ?
[06:59] <Randolf> Hello Haris.
[07:00] <ducasse> Haris: you do on the server image
[07:00] <Randolf> Haris:  I just installed Ubuntu Linux 16.04 LTS earlier today, and it did give me that option.
[07:00] <Randolf> I installed it under VMware ESXi 6.5.
[07:00] <Randolf> So, I probably have the server edition.
[07:02] <Haris> relayed the info =)
[07:02] <Randolf> uname -a:  Linux [XXXX] 4.4.0-116-generic #140-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 12 21:23:04 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:11] <yogurt99> I just installed imagemagick. Sometimes I download apps where the package name is different from the binaries. Is there some way to work out where it all went and what its components are from the command line?
[07:11] <yogurt99> I might do 'whereis' for some apps, but whereis imagemagick returns nothing.
[07:12] <ducasse> yogurt99: dpkg -L packagename
[07:14] <yogurt99> ah, thank you
[07:33] <peter-bittner> Where do I report issues related to touch screen support (touch screen on notebooks, e.g. the Lenovo X1 Carbon)? Specifically, GNOME Shell "Show application" (lower left corner) and Firefox (2-finger) scrolling, all in Ubuntu 18.04.
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> peter-bittner: join #ubuntu+1 for bionic support please
[08:03] <nostalgk> hello
[08:29] <geordy> 请问一下，这边能用中文交流吗？
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> !zh | geordy
[08:32] <fxnoob> what are the chances for a crash at do-release-upgrade... for example from 14.04 to 16.04
[08:34] <guiverc> fxnoob: the most common issue I'd expect would be out-of-disk space, followed by power-out; though this depends on what changes you made (if desktop, did you grab stuff intended for other distros or unsupported & add that will create issues)..
[08:36] <fxnoob> guiverc: I installed some stuff, no debs... for example firefox quantum, download from mozilla site and install manually in /opt/
[08:36] <fxnoob> quantum doesn't install from repository in 14.04
[08:37] <guiverc> if you added repo's to your sources.list* files, then I'd remove them (ie. comment out) before release-upgrade, and when on new version decide if you need them, check to see if xenial (in your case) is supported then add back...
[08:39] <guiverc> btw:  i'd not expect issues with firefox; I'm speaking ~generically (ie. as if it applies for any repo)
[08:40] <mjayk> When does 18.04 come out
[08:40] <brainwash> in one week
[08:40] <mjayk> Thanks
[08:41] <brainwash> fxnoob: firefox quantum version 59 is available in the official repository for ubuntu 14.04
[08:42] <brainwash> fxnoob: what exact error did you encounter?
[08:42] <lezsakdomi> Hi!
[08:43] <usuario1> hello
[08:43] <mjayk> haya
[08:43] <lezsakdomi> It seems like installing libc in a foreign arch is impossible under Xenial?
[08:44] <lezsakdomi> libc6:amd64 conflicts with libc6:aarch64
[08:44] <lezsakdomi> libc6-amd64:i386 depends on libc6:amd64
[08:44] <lezsakdomi> (And I'm on aarch64)
[08:45] <lezsakdomi> I want to set up qemu-user
[08:45] <lezsakdomi> Theoretically all libc6's ar providing properly named files, thus they should not collide.
[08:46] <lezsakdomi> I'm near to unpack and install these packages manually *sigh*
[08:47] <usuario1> I don't understas lezsakdon... was libc6:amd64 already installed before you try to install libc6-amd64:i386?
[08:56] <lezsakdomi> usario1: No
[08:56] <lezsakdomi> I'm on aarch64, so currently libc6:aarch64 is installed
[08:57] <lezsakdomi> And a lot of other, smaller packages dependending on libc6, for example firefox:aarch64
[09:02] <brainwash> lezsakdomi: maybe sharing the whole terminal output could be helpful
[09:03] <lezsakdomi> This isn't a command, but a concept.
[09:03] <lezsakdomi> But i'll try
[09:18] <lezsakdomi> I've finally got this typescript: termbin.com/f7l8
[09:18] <lezsakdomi> SOrry, temrbibn.com/l7n8
[09:18] <lezsakdomi> Shit, http://termbin.com/l7n8
[09:18] <lezsakdomi> (Now copy-pasted, should work)
[09:19] <lezsakdomi> Hopefully this demonstrates my problem
[09:19] <lezsakdomi> I surely would not remove half of my packages to get a f*cking closed-source program work
[09:23] <lezsakdomi> (In that typescript ansi colors are used, so i recommend simply just http://termbin.com/l7n8)
[09:23] <lezsakdomi> Shit
[09:23] <lezsakdomi> (In that typescript ansi colors are used, so i recommend simply just `curl http://termbin.com/l7n8` in your terminal :) )
[09:37] <aLeSD> hi all
[09:37] <aLeSD> I can't make my external monitor work. Using an usb-c -> hdmi adapter
[09:38] <aLeSD> someone had the same prob
[09:38] <aLeSD> I am on ubuntu 16.04
[09:40] <Guest50431> off topic: è possibile usare un access point hamlet per fare un bridge tra il router e il computer?
[09:43] <khadas> hello
[09:44] <khadas> does anyone use ubuntu for khadas vim
[09:44] <USERNAME00> How can I assist you to day.
[09:44] <khadas> need help
[09:45] <lezsakdomi> khadas: ?
[09:45] <khadas> open souce board khadas VIM
[09:45] <khadas> open source Khadas VIM
[09:46] <khadas> like Raspberry Pi
[09:46] <lezsakdomi> aLeSD: Looks like nobody answered you. WHat does dmesg say? And lspci? Then xrandr (or arandr)?
[09:47] <lezsakdomi> Wow, and it DOES exists: https://www.khadas.com/vim
[09:48] <aLeSD> lezsakdomi, lspci -> https://pastebin.com/YaYqZXzf
[09:49] <aLeSD> lezsakdomi, xrand -> https://pastebin.com/rucD5WQz
[09:50] <aLeSD> dmesg seems normal
[09:50] <lezsakdomi> khadas: Personally I would try with the RPi images, because the specs looks to same for me (used RPi a long ago)
[09:50] <aLeSD> I can make the external monitor work with usb-c -> vga
[09:51] <aLeSD> but not at full resolution (2K)
[09:51] <aLeSD> I am using kernel 4.16 ... but I have the same behaviour with 4.13
[09:54] <lezsakdomi> aLeSD: What USB-C card are you using?
[09:54] <lezsakdomi> (so lspci output?)
[09:55] <lezsakdomi> (I have not too mouch idea)
[09:58] <lezsakdomi> aLeSD: Sorry, I've missed where you wrote your lspci output, too mouch messages are here
[09:58] <SimonNL> lezsakdomi, lspci -> https://pastebin.com/YaYqZXzf
[09:59] <aLeSD> [sudo] password for asini:
[09:59] <aLeSD> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.16.0-041600-lowlatency
[09:59] <aLeSD> W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/skl_dmc_ver1_27.bin for module i915
[10:00] <aLeSD> what do you think ?
[10:02] <SimonNL> I would try finding that file on my HDD
[10:02] <SimonNL> might be a stupid idea but I can't help myself
[10:03] <lezsakdomi> Is linux-firmware-nonfree installed
[10:03] <lezsakdomi> <
[10:03] <lezsakdomi> *?
[10:04] <aLeSD> lezsakdomi, I don't have a -nonfree package
[10:06] <lezsakdomi> aLeSD: Then enable multiverse (there is a gui tool for managing sources, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list), update packages and then that package should be available
[10:06] <lezsakdomi> Try installing that. In most of cases "works".
[10:07] <aLeSD> I have multiverse active
[10:07] <yunes_> git
[10:07] <yunes_> Hi
[10:08] <yunes_> hello
[10:08] <yunes_> ?
[10:09] <yunes_> 😕😕😕😕😕
[10:10] <yunes_> any body? 😕
[10:10] <yunes_> hii
[10:10] <saurabhs_> yunes_, just ask
[10:11] <yunes_> alright, thank you 😕
[10:31] <yunes_> shit
[10:40] <Haris> guys, I installed mongodb 3.6.4 on xenial. its systemd file is missing. purge and re-install didn't help also. what to do to get systemd service for it ?
[10:40] <taro> hi
[10:40] <lezsakdomi> HI!
[10:40] <aLeSD> resolved
[10:41] <aLeSD> it was the cable + the adapter
[10:44] <_sym_> Hi everyone ;), I stumpled upon a socket file which is owned by root and world read/writable. Is there a chance to privesc through this?
[10:45] <_sym_> it has the sticky bit set of course
[10:51] <heistheDude> So my ubuntu crashes randomly after like 5 seconds of booting. Whats wrong?
[10:51] <heistheDude> Also it keeps on happening
[10:53] <JimBuntu> heistheDude, Do you have a boot menu where you can select which kernel will be used? If so, and if this is before the crash, I would try a different kernel. Do you still have a live-USB or such? If so, I would do a quick sanity test that the hardware is good by booting to that... once you have booted from that, you may also be able to mount your fixed disc and check for kernel logs/etc
[10:54] <brainwash> Haris: how did you install it?
[10:54] <heistheDude> JimBuntu, no I don't have a live-USB but I do have a boot menu with arch. Ill try booting it. Hold on a sec
[10:54] <Haris> apt-get purge mongodb-org*; apti-get install mongodb-org*
[10:55] <Haris> imported gpg key first
[10:55] <Haris> added sources.list as per doc
[10:55] <Haris> before this re-install
[10:56] <brainwash> Haris: so, you have to contact the package maintainer I'd think
[10:56] <Haris> ah
[10:58] <brainwash> Haris: did you check if there a mongod.service ?
[10:59] <Haris> systemctl list-unit-files doesn't have it in the list
[10:59] <Haris> # systemctl enable mongod.service
[10:59] <Haris> Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
[11:00] <Haris> this pkg is from mongo db repo repo.mongodb.com/apt/
[11:00] <brainwash> right
[11:00] <Haris> there's .deb files for 3.6.4 for 16.x
[11:00] <brainwash> I understand that
[11:00] <Haris> dpkg -L pkg-name shows there's no systemd script(s) in any of the pkg .. o_O
[11:02] <brainwash> I would contact the mongodb people then
[11:02] <brainwash> they probably have a channel on freenode also
[11:03] <pragmaticenigma> _sym_, I wouldn't recommend playing with sockets
[11:04] <brainwash> Haris: or grab the service file manually from https://github.com/mongodb/mongo/blob/master/debian/mongod.service
[11:05] <heistheDude> JimBuntu, it still crashes in arch. By crash I mean the whole pc shuts down. Does this mean a hardware issue?
[11:06] <JimBuntu> heistheDude, possibly, leaning that way more than my initial thoughts of it being the Ubuntu kernel.
[11:06] <JimBuntu> heistheDude, Can you boot into BIOS and run any memory tests or possibly simply leave it in BIOS for a bit and see if it crashes? May take a bit longer...
[11:07] <heistheDude> JimBuntu, okay.
[11:09] <heistheDude> JimBuntu, it stood only for couple of seconds in memory test aswell
[11:10] <Kharma> Haris: did you try replacing enable with start?
[11:10] <Kharma> Or perhaps the repo you installed need it to start as root
[11:12] <JimBuntu> heistheDude, is it a desktop? If so, I would open and observe the fans...also look at the power supply fan although they normally take longer run-times before shutting down if it's the power supply fan
[11:12] <heistheDude> JimBuntu, its a laptop.
[11:13] <kostkon> heistheDude, could be overheating
[11:13] <JimBuntu> heistheDude, Ok, can you see/hear if any fans are spinning?
[11:14] <JimBuntu> Are you using the original AC/DC power supply? Do you have another you can try? Have you tried it on battery only?
[11:15] <JimBuntu> Does it crash if not performing a RAM test in BIOS, if left to sit there, idle?
[11:17] <heistheDude> JimBuntu, the fan is working in memory test for couple of secs then laptop shuts down. Im using an AC adapter which is not original also my battery is dead. I've to run it on constant power supply
[11:23] <JimBuntu> heistheDude, Did it start doing this after it had been off for a while... or did it crash during normal use and now you can't get it to stay on long enough to do anything useful?
[11:23] <heistheDude> JimBuntu, actually it started malfunctioning after leaving it for a month unused.
[11:24] <pragmaticenigma> heistheDude, was it plugged in that entire time?
[11:24] <heistheDude> pragmaticenigma, no it wasnt
[11:24] <heistheDude> It was unused.
[11:24] <JimBuntu> heistheDude, does it still show the correct date/time in BIOS?
[11:25] <JimBuntu> Either way, I would say to reset bios to factory settings and reboot, but given the very short time powered on, I'm a little worried about doing that
[11:28] <pragmaticenigma> heistheDude, during this non-use period, was that when the battery failed? or was that prior to?
[11:29] <Rembo> hello everyone, i have the following issue, can someone help? https://pastebin.com/iRfktytt
[11:30] <heistheDude> pragmaticenigma, no, it wasn't. But the batter was inside the laptop while it was not being used.
[11:32] <pragmaticenigma> Rembo, that isn't a question this channel is meant to handle. You will want to check out #bash or #perl for help
[11:42] <windows> hello does linux ubuntu share and sell my info like facebook to third parties ? than please do not solicit that i watch much porn ? okay ?
[11:42] <pragmaticenigma> heistheDude, It really sounds like the laptop has a hardware failure. If the BIOS reset that JimBuntu recommends doesn't fix it, I would consider the laptop no good. (Also, recommend removing batteries from laptops not in use for extended periods, especially dead ones)
[11:43] <pragmaticenigma> windows, This is not an appropriate support question. Use google and come to your own conclusion.
[11:44] <pragmaticenigma> windows, also: https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy
[11:45] <windows> oh my info is collected and sold...so linux forward me more paid porn sites ?
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:47] <JimBuntu> Hiya BluesKaj
[11:47] <BluesKaj> 'Morning JimBuntu
[11:47] <windows> i wish no one knows that i watch too much porn
[11:47] <leftyfb> windows: please stop.
[11:48] <BluesKaj> windows, this is not the place for pron discussions
[11:49] <windows> oh i am concerned about my privacy ..what i watch must be secret thats why i am getting porn links in web browser because you all stores my personal visits  and sell to other paid porn sites ?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> no one bite please !
[11:50] <windows> bite who ?
[11:51] <Kon-> windows, Ubuntu 18.04 will ask you if you want to submit data about your hardware and the version of Ubuntu you are running. You are free to say no. If you say no, it will stay disabled.
[11:53] <ShigaLaKoka> When I resume after suspending, it often happens that I dont get back the screen/login screen
[11:53] <Kon-> windows, if you live in a country where porn is illegal, I recommend disabling data collection. Canonical does plan to record the country of users who opt in, but not their IP
[11:53] <StrangeNoises> silly question but i've never actually had a windows laptop before. do i need to disable bitlocker on it before installing ubuntu alongside for dual-booting?
[11:53] <windows> donot tell my wife that i watch too much porn in her absense as you store  my info the websites of good porn i visited .as privacy matters haha
[11:53] <ShigaLaKoka> I can hear the fan spinning, so I thought maybe its just loading from RAM
[11:53] <StrangeNoises> i've always just installed clean on self-builds, or on macs, where this isn't an issue
[11:54] <ShigaLaKoka> But nothing shows up even after a long time
[11:54] <ShigaLaKoka> Any idea how to troubleshoot this ?
[11:55] <windows> thanks you KON you are genius windows, Ubuntu 18.04 will ask you if you want to submit data about your hardware and the version of Ubuntu you are running. You are free to say no. If you say no, it will stay disabled
[11:56] <ShigaLaKoka> StrangeNoises: https://confluence.csc.fi/plugins/servlet/mobile#content/view/64228167
[11:57] <ShigaLaKoka> Guys, any idea how do I troubleshoot this blank screen ?
[11:58] <ShigaLaKoka> I dont want to force shut down because I have unsaved work that I will have to do again
[11:58] <Haris> yes, no help
[11:58] <Haris> contacted #mongodb. guys are quiet there
[11:58] <Haris> I wonder if the https://github.com/mongodb/mongo/blob/master/debian/mongod.service file is same for debian and ubuntu
[12:00] <StrangeNoises> hm. thanks ShigaLaKoka. not sure i want to do all that business though. i've been in two minds about maybe just nuking the windows partition entirely tbh, so leaving it empty and unencrypted is a possibility too. i was just wondering if it was *necessary* to disable it just to have ubuntu installed in another partition
[12:00] <ask-ygU5AP56> hello
[12:00] <pragmaticenigma> Haris, try it and find out... just make abackups of your files
[12:00] <ask-ygU5AP56> what's the equivalent of apt-get --purge autoremove w/ 'apt' ? apt purge autoremove ? is there one?
[12:01] <pragmaticenigma> ask-ygU5AP56, they are the essentiually the same
[12:01] <ShigaLaKoka> StrangeNoises: Well, it says there that you have to pause it when adjusting your partitions
[12:01] <ask-ygU5AP56> pragmaticenigma, so can you run apt purge autoremove ? is that a valid thing? I just came up w/ it off the top of me head
[12:01] <ShigaLaKoka> If I were you, I would disable it entirely till ubuntu gets installed successfully
[12:03] <StrangeNoises> ShigaLaKoka yeah, that looks to be sensible. it is at the partition level, not the disk level, right? :-)
[12:03] <StrangeNoises> if so that makes sense. re-enabling it after ubuntu's resized it shouldn't be a problem
[12:04] <ShigaLaKoka> Yeah for partition level
[12:05] <pragmaticenigma> ask-ygU5AP56, apt is a friendlier interface for a few apt-* programs. I don't know what the result of combining purge with autoremove will be though, so I would use caution
[12:05] <pragmaticenigma> ask-ygU5AP56, if they aren't valid options, it will tell you
[12:05] <pragmaticenigma> ask-ygU5AP56, to be sure look at "man apt" and see all the commands it has available
[12:05]  * StrangeNoises has a shiny new dell xps 9370. which you can get with linux on it, but i didn't because, actually because dell lost that order and i gave up and ordered a gold windows one from elsewhere. but now of course trying to get linux on it the best way
[12:15] <AmR|EiSa> Hello
[12:15] <AmR|EiSa> I can dell laptop and I have BCM4313 card it's show me network but I can connect to my wife network.
[12:15] <AmR|EiSa> Any help
[12:16] <JimBuntu> AmR|EiSa, What's your native language?
[12:17] <AmR|EiSa> Iarabic
[12:17] <AmR|EiSa> A*rabic
[12:17] <AmR|EiSa> Arabic*
[12:17] <JimBuntu> AmR|EiSa, k, there should be a channel for that, I don't know all the names, one moment
[12:17] <AmR|EiSa> sorry for that, But I will do my best
[12:17] <highpriestess> hey all
[12:18] <AmR|EiSa> But I need some help, I can't get help from unknow channel.
[12:18] <AmR|EiSa> Ok
[12:18] <JimBuntu> AmR|EiSa, it's #ubuntu-arabic , not many people on, but may want to ask there too.
[12:18] <highpriestess> i just needed it in english
[12:18] <highpriestess> greetings all
[12:19] <AmR|EiSa> highpriestess: Greetings
[12:19] <AmR|EiSa> JimBuntu: OK, What info you need from me about this card ?
[12:20] <JimBuntu> It looked like you said it connected to your network, but not your wifes, is that correct?
[12:22] <AmR|EiSa> Oh, Sorry for that. The card scan networks But can't connecte to it.
[12:23] <JimBuntu> Does it go through the process and ask for passphrase/etc?
[12:24] <AmR|EiSa> yes
[12:26] <JimBuntu> Ok. AmR|EiSa and then the passphrase is taken and it probably fails to acquire an IP and either falls back to a different network or asks you for the passphrase again?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, I have to ask the obvious question, did you install a bcm linux driver for 4313, if so which one?
[12:31] <AmR|EiSa> Ok give me 1m
[12:32] <zoonerer> hi, I'm encountering this bug when trying to print: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/1571531 ... is there a workaround?
[12:32] <zoonerer> I could simply print in Fedora 27 but we are considering Ubuntu for this office
[12:36] <AmR|EiSa> JimBuntu: BluesKaj: I try connect it with my mobile hot sopt but it's same.
[12:37] <AmR|EiSa> Can't connect.
[12:37] <JimBuntu> AmR|EiSa, have you ever been able to connect with this card?
[12:38] <JimBuntu> AmR|EiSa, When I did a quick search, I did see a lot of talk around alternative drivers and hassle with this specific model.
[12:38] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, you need the bcm 6.30.223.271 proprieatary driver. I have the same one on my lenovo laptop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[12:38] <AmR|EiSa> nop, Not with ubuntu
[12:41] <AmR|EiSa> How I can install that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta ?
[12:42] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: Is that right one ?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, which ubuntu release?
[12:43] <AmR|EiSa> 16.4
[12:43] <AmR|EiSa> ubuntu 16.04
[12:45] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, download and install this one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta/6.30.223.271-2
[12:46] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: Sorry But How I can install it with apt, Can I do that with apt ?
[12:46] <AmR|EiSa> Or How I can do it ?
[12:47] <donfluffles> sudo apt install [package]
[12:50] <AmR|EiSa> donfluffles: I don't get I can find any apt link in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta/6.30.223.271-2 and Any deb too
[12:52] <fatu> salu
[12:54] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, download the driver then extract in the folder, open a terminal in the downloads flder and do, dpkg -i  broadcom-sta_6.30.223.271-2
[12:54] <AmR|EiSa> lol
[12:54] <BluesKaj> with sudo
[12:55] <AmR|EiSa> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/broadcom-sta_6.30.223.271.orig.tar.xz right ?
[12:55] <pragmaticenigma> zoonerer, that's a really old bug and likely already been fixed. Can you post your logs to pastebin and someone here might be able to help figure out what the issue is
[12:56] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, yes
[12:58] <zoonerer> pragmaticenigma: these are the relevant logs: https://bpaste.net/raw/3b821afecda1
[13:01] <zoonerer> pragmaticenigma: and this is when the printer was first connected: https://bpaste.net/raw/bddd112c4105
[13:02] <aLeSD> is the a hosts file per user ?
[13:02] <zoonerer> I've also noticed that the bug isn't fixed (Status: New and Unassigned)
[13:10] <barq> How can I install a newer package than is supported in 16.04 LTS? Is there a testing repository that I can install from?
[13:11] <SlidingHorn> barq: what is the package, and why exactly do you need a newer version?
[13:12] <nanaki> any one familiar with microwatt os (based on ubuntu)?
[13:12] <barq> libsvn, because there is a patch I need
[13:12] <nanaki> looking to further tweak its battery useage when running on battery
[13:12] <AmR|EiSa> Sorry But I try sudo dpkg -i broadcom-sta_6.30.223.271.orig.tar.xz and Can't see the file , and I try with full path too.
[13:12] <barq> Can I use apt-get -t precise-proposed?
[13:12] <SlidingHorn> nanaki: unfortunately ubuntu *based* OSes can't be supported here.
[13:14] <SlidingHorn> barq: which patch?
[13:15] <leftyfb> AmR|EiSa: broadcom-sta_6.30.223.271.orig.tar.xz is not a deb package and cannot be installed using dpkg
[13:15] <AmR|EiSa> then How I can convert it or install it ?
[13:15] <leftyfb> AmR|EiSa: as you were told above, you'll need to extract it first
[13:15] <leftyfb> it's a compressed file. Like a zip file
[13:15] <AmR|EiSa> I did that
[13:16] <leftyfb> AmR|EiSa: and what files got extracted?
[13:16] <AmR|EiSa> I try and amd64
[13:16] <leftyfb> you mean a directly called amd64 got exracted?
[13:17] <leftyfb> er
[13:17] <leftyfb> sorry, tired this morning
[13:17] <leftyfb> AmR|EiSa: you mean a directory called amd64 got extracted?
[13:17] <AmR|EiSa> I got c code for i386 and amd64
[13:17] <AmR|EiSa> yes
[13:18] <AmR|EiSa> I run make
[13:18] <leftyfb> AmR|EiSa: ok, look inside th amd64 directory
[13:18] <leftyfb> don't run make
[13:18] <AmR|EiSa> make file and c code
[13:19] <leftyfb> AmR|EiSa: what is inside the amd64 directory?
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> zoonerer, the bug was escalated upstream and a patch was submitted to appamor group. no one followed up and the bug remains open. bugs open for 2+ years typically are because there is a wait on upstream changes, and no one followed up
[13:19] <AmR|EiSa> lib, src dir's and makefile
[13:19] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: what's the point of this? Why not just install broadcom-sta-common or broadcom-sta-source?
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> zoonerer, have you rebooted the machine since "installing" the printer?
[13:21] <AmR|EiSa> leftyfb: ?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, the sta-common didn't work on my bcm4313, had to install the prprietary, but I must admit I can't see the driver after extarctin the file ...strange
[13:29] <zoonerer> pragmaticenigma: no, I was under the impression that drivers would be loaded dynamically. I'll try to reboot it today.
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> zoonerer, sometimes they are, sometimes they're not.. hp printer drivers are fickle
[13:30] <AmR|EiSa> ????
[13:31] <pragmaticenigma> zoonerer, also, if you are still having troubles, the link in the bug report to apparmors bug group has as a fix
[13:31] <pragmaticenigma> zoonerer, edit the file referenced adding the line highlighted in green http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apparmor-dev/apparmor/master/revision/3497
[13:41] <AmR|EiSa> any help ?
[13:41] <SlidingHorn> !patience > AmR|EiSa
[13:42] <AmR|EiSa> :(
[13:45] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, open a terminal and do; sudo apt install bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:49] <dbugger> Hi everyone. I am a little fustrated. I have made a virtual machine, but when I try to ping it I get an "Host Unreachable" error. What could be happening?
[13:49] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: Done
[13:49] <dbugger> Im quite sure the vm is working well, because is freshly built with Vagrant, so the problem must be in the host OS
[13:49] <dbugger> does anyone have an idea?
[13:50] <pragmaticenigma> dbugger, Check your networking settings in your Virtual Machine software.
[13:50] <oleg> Hi, is it beater to upgrade to 18.04 from 16.04 version via usb stick iso?
[13:51] <dbugger> pragmaticenigma, I already did. Look exactly the same as my colleagues have, and it is working for them.
[13:52] <pragmaticenigma> oleg, it's easier to wait for the updater to be released and then do the update from 16.04 to 18.04. The updater will be made available when 18.04.1 is released, which is usually the best time to update as initial release bugs have been flushed out
[13:53] <oleg> pragmaticenigma, Yeah i will waiting of release version i just preparing for upgrading, thanks for information.
[13:54] <pragmaticenigma> dbugger, is the host os firewall configured correctly? is the guest os firewall configured as well?
[13:56] <leftyfb> dbugger: are you trying to ping a hostname or ip address? What does your guests ip look like? Is it the same subnet as your host?
[13:59] <BluesKaj>  AmR|EiSa now try your wifi connection
[14:01] <dbugger> leftyfb, an IP address
[14:01] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: The same it's re asking me for password and re asking .....
[14:01] <dbugger> leftyfb, how can I find out about the subnet? I am not sure
[14:02] <dbugger> pragmaticenigma, the guest has no firewall
[14:02] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: But I don't use broadcom-sta_6.30.223.271.orig.tar.xz ?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, try a reboot
[14:08] <leftyfb> dbugger: what is the ip address of your host and your guest?
[14:10] <dbugger> the ip address of my guest is 192.168.33.240
[14:10] <leftyfb> and the host?
[14:11] <dbugger> my public ip?
[14:11] <leftyfb> no
[14:11] <leftyfb> the local ip address of the host
[14:11] <pragmaticenigma> dbugger,  the ip address as reported by ifconfig on the host machine
[14:11] <diman777> Где я ))
[14:11] <pragmaticenigma> !ru | diman777
[14:12] <dbugger> leftyfb, not sure what you mean.. the host is my computer, no?
[14:12] <leftyfb> correct
[14:12] <dbugger> so that would be my public ip, no?
[14:12] <leftyfb> you have a host and a guest. What are their ip addresses on the network?
[14:13] <dbugger> if I do "ifconfig" I see 3 options: "vboxnet0", "lo", and "enxdc9b...."
[14:13] <dbugger> you mean the last one?
[14:13] <leftyfb> dbugger: a public ip address is usually referring to your publicly accessible ip address on the internet. We don't want/need that
[14:13] <leftyfb> dbugger: why are you running VM's/vagrant if you don't understand these basic concepts?
[14:14] <zoonerer> pragmaticenigma: thanks, I'll take a look at that. I'm not close to that particular machine atm but I'll let you know how it went.
[14:15] <dbugger> leftyfb, I am trying to set up the new web project I am gonna work on
[14:15] <dbugger> this is the way the company provisioned their project
[14:15] <leftyfb> dbugger: you're getting paid to do this?
[14:15] <dbugger> if I ever get the virtual machine running, I might :P
[14:16] <leftyfb> dbugger: And this thing that you're building is going to be accessible on the internet?
[14:16] <dbugger> no, I am trying to get the development environment
[14:16] <dbugger> this has nothing to do with the project in itself
[14:16] <leftyfb> dbugger: ip addresses. Whar are the ip addresses of your host machine and your guest?
[14:17] <dbugger> 192.168.111.198 is my host
[14:18] <leftyfb> ok, those ip address's are not on the same subnet. I'm going to assume you have your VM setup using NAT, not bridged
[14:18] <Iarfen> how I change my ruby version from 2.3.1 to 2.3.6 with apt-get?
[14:18] <dbugger> Virtualbox + Vagrant + Ansible
[14:18] <dbugger> oh sorr
[14:19] <dbugger> read wrong the question
[14:19] <dbugger> yes, the machines have a NAT adapter
[14:19] <pragmaticenigma> Iarfen, if version 2.3.6 is available in the package repositories "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" will get it. Otherwise you can't
[14:19] <dbugger> Should I change to bridged?
[14:19] <leftyfb> dbugger: go read/learn about bridge/NAT interfaces with Virtualbox
[14:20] <dbugger> I know I should and I will, but maybe could you please help me with this one, before I get fired?
[14:21] <pragmaticenigma> dbugger, this is not fair to us. We are all unpaid volunteers here. Using this channel for your job is frowned upon. Your employer expects you to know these things and expecting us to do the work for you is not fair to us.
[14:21] <Iarfen> pragmaticenigma: how I update ruby? sudo apt update ruby 2.3.6 doesn't works as command, how is the syntaxis?
[14:21] <dbugger> fair enough. Thanks everyone
[14:21] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: the same
[14:21] <pragmaticenigma> Iarfen, is there a particular reason for needing version 2.3.6
[14:22] <leftyfb> dbugger: donate the proceeds of this job to the linux foundation and I'll gladly help you
[14:23] <Iarfen> pragmaticenigma: yes, it's needed because the hosting uses that version
[14:24] <leftyfb> Iarfen: what version of ubuntu?
[14:24] <pragmaticenigma> Iarfen, Unless you are using features specifically available in version 2.3.6, code you develop using and older version will work on the newer version when you install it to your hosting provider
[14:24] <dbugger> leftyfb, im not sure I what you mean with "the proceeds of this job"
[14:24] <pragmaticenigma> dbugger, being compensated
[14:25] <dbugger> what do you want me to donate?
[14:26] <leftyfb> dbugger: we are not going to help you build an environment from the ground-up that you are getting paid to do when you haven't taken the time to understand the basics of the project on your own
[14:26] <dbugger> leftyfb, Yes, I understand if you do not want to help me.
[14:27] <leftyfb> dbugger: regardless, your issue is about Virtualbox and networking. Very little to do with Ubuntu
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> dbugger, donations are apprieciated, but everyone here is a volunteer and not compensated. We do this to benefit the community. We don't mind helping someone, even for their job. But when it's clear we are being used for someone's own personal gain, that's not a very nice thing to do
[14:27] <leftyfb> dbugger: your ubuntu guest/host is working perfectly fine. It's a configuration problem
[14:28] <Iarfen> leftyfb:  it's version 16
[14:28] <leftyfb> Iarfen: there is no version 16
[14:28] <leftyfb> Iarfen: cat /etc/issue
[14:28] <Iarfen> Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS
[14:28] <dbugger> Well, I did not come here to take advantage of anyone. I just had a problem and I thought maybe I could find someone here smarter than me, willing to help me. I have done it as well for others. but if someone feels "used" by helping me, I understand and accept it if they dont want to help me.
[14:29] <leftyfb> Iarfen: 16.04 only has version 2.3.0+1 of the ruby package. 2.3.2 is not available from the official repositories
[14:30] <leftyfb> Iarfen: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ruby
[14:34] <al2o3-cr> Iarfen: just use chruby + ruby_install
[14:37] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, what is that?
[14:37] <james1138> Hello from Indiana. I need advice. I am looking for suggestions about "offline" dictionary and/or encyclopedia to install in Ubuntu. This summer I am traveling and no surefire sources of wifi during my travel.
[14:39] <pragmaticenigma> james1138, check out kiwix.org ... they have software application that can import a copy of Wikipedia for offline use
[14:41] <james1138> Kiwix.org? Thanks! I just heard about "StarDict" and "GoldenDict" - are either of those offline?
[14:42] <Dro> Hello, why when I use sudo apt-get upgrade , php stay at version 7.0 (does not upgrade to 7.1 ?)
[14:43] <cayden> hi guys
[14:43] <leftyfb> Dro: sudo apt-get install php7.1
[14:44] <Dro> leftyfb: E: Unable to locate package php7.1
[14:44] <Dro> E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'php7.1'
[14:44] <SlidingHorn> Dro: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[14:45] <leftyfb> dropit's not available in the version of ubuntu you're running
[14:45] <genii> Dro: dist-upgrade
[14:45] <leftyfb> from the official repos
[14:45] <Dro> SlidingHorn: 16.04
[14:45] <Dro> genii: already done
[14:45] <genii> ( will up versions to whatever is the latest in the repositories you're using )
[14:46] <SlidingHorn> Dro: 7.1 isn't available for Xenial (16.04) from the official repos
[14:46] <Dro> Maybe I have to add this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php
[14:46] <Dro> ?
[14:46] <Dro> SlidingHorn: what does it mean? is there any risks with that version?
[14:46] <SlidingHorn> Dro: why do you need 7.1?
[14:47] <pragmaticenigma> not sure james1138, I did a quick google search for "wikipedia offline" and that was the first result that came up. Did a quick scan of the site before I suggested it
[14:47] <Dro> SlidingHorn: because i'm going to run an application that require 7.1
[14:47] <ioria> 7.1 is available on artful btw
[14:47] <james1138> Thanks Pragma.
[14:48] <SlidingHorn> Dro: if it absolutely does require 7.1, then Artful or Bionic would be required.  Which application is this, if I may ask?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, we have to remove the bcnwl-kernel-source driver, then build the driver you downloaded and extracted. so, sudo apt remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[14:50] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj:How I can build driver I download it ?
[14:51] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: How I can build driver I download it ?*
[14:51] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa,, then, sudo apt install build-essential
[14:53] <Dro> SlidingHorn: Symfony 4.0
[14:55] <donfluffles> what does the new ubuntu 17.04 include?
[14:55] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: Done, And ?
[14:55] <leftyfb> donfluffles: 17.04 is not new and is not supported
[14:55] <donfluffles> leftyfb, it is new
[14:55] <donfluffles> kinda
[14:55] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, then, cd ~/Downloads/bcmwl-...... The name of the folder that was extracted
[14:56] <AmR|EiSa> K
[14:56] <leftyfb> donfluffles: 17.04 was released a year ago, is not new and is unsupported
[14:56] <donfluffles> im only upgrading to 17.04 for some bugs to be fixed
[14:56] <donfluffles> better than 14.03
[14:56] <donfluffles> 14.04*
[14:56] <donfluffles> that was created ages ago
[14:56] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: and ?
[14:57] <leftyfb> !eol | donfluffles
[14:57] <pragmaticenigma> donfluffles, these are the only currently supported releases for ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:57] <SlidingHorn> donfluffles: Dro is there a reason the symfony version available in your official repository isn't suitable? (2.7.10)
[14:58] <donfluffles> of course its not supported since its not an lts
[14:58] <SlidingHorn> oops dro ^^ (sorry donfluffles)
[14:58] <donfluffles> dro?
[14:58] <SlidingHorn> donfluffles: ignore...sorry - didn't mean to tag you
[14:58] <donfluffles> very interesting SlidingHorn
[14:58] <David____617> gnome-shell crashes with "Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock' does not contain a key named 'multi-monitor'"
[14:58] <David____617> How can I reset all settings?
[14:59] <David____617> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/73vvPTTPRz/
[14:59] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, then make && make install  This should build and install the driver. You may need to reboot to activate the driver
[14:59] <AmR|EiSa> with sudo ?
[14:59] <donfluffles> lots of reasons to say that to a chat filled with people
[14:59] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, no
[15:02] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: make install can't be run without sudo
[15:02] <leftyfb> donofrio: you should wait till next week and upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 and then to 18.04
[15:02] <leftyfb> nevermind :/
[15:02] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, ok thenj use sudo
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> David____617, take a look here: https://askubuntu.com/a/56314
[15:03] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, sorry yes use sudo with make install, my mistake
[15:04] <AmR|EiSa> It's Ok.
[15:06] <David____617> thanks pragmaticenigma but I already tried that.
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> David____617, okay, not sure then... what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[15:07] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: Now I don't have brcm at all I try to get the list by lsmod | grep -e wl -e brcm
[15:09] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, did you reboot?
[15:09] <AmR|EiSa> yes
[15:09] <donfluffles> 17.04 is the best thing ever created
[15:10] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, does the wifi icon show in your panel?
[15:10] <donfluffles> whoever disses it without even trying cause its "not supported" is a crybaby
[15:10] <donfluffles> end
[15:10] <AmR|EiSa> nop
[15:10] <zaapiel> zaapiel@zaapiel-27-p120qe ~ $ systemctl disable sshd
[15:10] <zaapiel> Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
[15:10] <zaapiel> any idea why?
[15:10] <zaapiel> i need to disable sshd at startup
[15:11] <leftyfb> use sudo
[15:11] <zaapiel> i did
[15:11] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, did the driver appear to build in the terminal after make install?
[15:11] <leftyfb> and use ssh, not sshd
[15:11] <leftyfb> or openssh-server
[15:11] <zaapiel> i didok
[15:11] <SlidingHorn> zaapiel: not according to what you pasted.
[15:11] <AmR|EiSa> yes
[15:12] <zaapiel> zaapiel@zaapiel-27-p120qe ~ $ sudo systemctl disable ssh
[15:12] <zaapiel> [sudo] password for zaapiel:
[15:12] <zaapiel> Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
[15:12] <zaapiel> i just uninstall ssh
[15:12] <zaapiel> is it needed?
[15:12] <leftyfb> zaapiel: what version of ubuntu?
[15:12] <zaapiel> i dont want it
[15:12] <SlidingHorn> !paste > zaapiel for future reference :)
[15:12] <zaapiel> im using linut mint 18.03
[15:12] <leftyfb> !mint | zaapiel
[15:13] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa, the then driver should be working , install nmcli , then run nmcli con to see what the network looks like
[15:15] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: E: Unable to locate package nmcli
[15:15] <AmR|EiSa> and I got from sudo make install install -D -m 755 wl.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[15:16] <AmR|EiSa> and I got from sudo make install " install -D -m 755 wl.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless "*
[15:18] <BluesKaj> am just run nmcli con , think it's part of network-manager
[15:18] <BluesKaj> AmR|EiSa,^
[15:21] <AmR|EiSa> NAME                   UUID                                  TYPE             DEVICE
[15:21] <AmR|EiSa> Infinix HOT 3 Network  9610a49a-fc8f-44d5-bfae-17d050323a87  bluetooth        A4:44:D1:1C:EE:33
[15:21] <AmR|EiSa> WM2                    1890f900-17ba-4054-bf3a-ea709b4792b6  802-11-wireless  --
[15:21] <AmR|EiSa> BluesKaj: ^
[15:22] <leftyfb> !paste | AmR|EiSa
[15:27] <ShigaLaKoka> Sometimes when I resume my laptop from suspend sleep, all I see is black screen and the CPU fan spins like crazy
[15:28] <ShigaLaKoka> I know ubuntu is trying to load state from RAM but it doesnt show anything even after hours of waiting
[15:29] <ShigaLaKoka> I know the screen is working because it is a little brighter than when the laptop is switched off
[15:29] <ShigaLaKoka> Anyone any idea how to troubleshoot this ?
[15:29] <pragmaticenigma> ShigaLaKoka, "suspend" is not reliable on many systems. It is often recommended to Hibernate (save to disk) or power down the laptop.
[15:30] <cholby> is there a tutorial on making a PPTP VPN server on Ubuntu 17.10?
[15:30] <teward> pragmaticenigma: hibernate isn't enabled by default, though, and is even less reliable at times than Suspend.  (Just saying)
[15:31] <ShigaLaKoka> pragmaticenigma: Is there a way to read any logs as to why this is happening. This happens way too often
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> teward, good point
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> ShigaLaKoka, you can check /var/log/syslog
[15:31] <stikonas> hi, rnacheva has some problems with running GUI apps as root on Ubuntu
[15:32] <nacc> stikonas: rnacheva: don't do that?
[15:32] <stikonas> does anybody know how debug .Xauthority permissions errors
[15:32] <nacc> are you using gksudo
[15:32] <ShigaLaKoka> pragmaticenigma: Why doesnt ctrl + alt + f7/f1 run ?
[15:32] <leftyfb> cholby: yes
[15:32] <stikonas> nacc: well, it's partitionmanager
[15:32] <ShigaLaKoka> I was thinking about restarting X
[15:32] <stikonas> so it reruns itself with kdesu
[15:33] <stikonas> nacc: so should be the same as gksudo, I think there are some permissions problems so, can't connect to Xserver
[15:33] <stikonas> nacc: so rnacheva is getting error  No X authentication info set for display  ":0"
[15:33] <nacc> stikonas: ah i see, never used kde, so not sure
[15:33] <nacc> stikonas: hopefully someone else can help
[15:33] <stikonas> nacc: well, but I think it would be the same with gnome
[15:33] <stikonas> I think the problem is with some X permissions
[15:34] <stikonas> ideally we shouldn't run GUI apps as root and KPM develpment code is already fixed, but not the version shipped in Ubuntu
[15:50] <Lope> what package do I need to remove to get rid of the GUI package manager in ubuntu? It locks my apt sometimes. Annoying.
[15:51] <leftyfb> Lope: it only locks it up if you run it. Don't run it
[15:52] <Lope> Oh I didn't run it
[15:52] <Lope> Maybe apt-get failed.
[15:52] <leftyfb> apt-get won't open any GUI applications. If you didn't run it, it didn't cause anything to lock up
[15:53] <Lope> leftyfb: good to know, thanks bud. I deleted the lock files and it's working again.
[15:53] <leftyfb> Lope: what version of ubuntu?
[15:53] <Lope> 18.04
[15:53] <leftyfb> !bionic | Lope
[15:53] <nacc> leftyfb: iirc, there are some settings that e.g., allow update-manager to run periodically
[15:53] <nacc> leftyfb: in which case, it would lock the apt cache
[15:53] <nacc> leftyfb: also aptd can lock it now, iirc
[15:54] <nacc> leftyfb: but, as you say, different channel :)
[15:54] <Lope> oh bugger. So is there any command to tell it to bugger off and update manually?
[15:54] <leftyfb> ah, right. I miread/understood. Lock files, as opposed to locking up the machine
[15:54] <Lope> instead of just clobbering the lock file :)
[15:54] <nacc> Lope: i'm not 100%, I think update-manager is considered core to ubuntu, so removing it would try to remove the desktop
[15:55] <nacc> Lope: you might be able to disable some of its settings
[15:55] <leftyfb> Lope: since you're running an unreleased version of ubuntu which is running gnome shell now, your best bet is to get help in #ubuntu+1.
[15:56] <ioria> Lope you probably have the default settings in Software&Updates set to 'Daily' , change it to 'Never'
[15:56] <leftyfb> ioria: is there even a "Software & updates" application anymore? Being gnome shell now
[15:56] <Lope> ioria: leftyfb okay
[15:56] <tgm4883> leftyfb: why wouldn't there be. That isn't specific to Unity
[15:56] <ioria> leftyfb, yeah, there is
[15:57] <leftyfb> good to know
[15:58] <Lope> is live migrate safe with LXD yet?
[15:59] <leftyfb> Lope: you should ask in #lxcontainers
[15:59] <cholby> leftyfb, can you link me to it?
[15:59] <leftyfb> cholby: what have you found so far and what did you search for?
[15:59] <cholby> leftyfb, can you link me to it?
[15:59] <cholby> i know how to google
[15:59] <leftyfb> cholby: what have you found so far and what did you search for?
[15:59] <cholby> and you said yes there is a pptp tutorial
[16:00] <cholby> so why don't you link me you fucking piece of shit
[16:00] <leftyfb> !op | cholby
[16:00] <cholby> i know how to fucking google
[16:00] <cholby> you dumb nigger
[16:00] <cholby> eat shit and die
[16:01] <leftyfb> well that escalated
[16:01] <tgm4883> some people children...
[16:02] <leftyfb> If they just searched for "ubuntu pptp server" on google, top 2 results have the exact tutorials they're looking for
[16:02] <JimBuntu> http://bfy.tw/HjXF
[16:02] <tgm4883> leftyfb: um, you may not have heard, but they know how to google
[16:02] <leftyfb> silly
[16:03] <Lope> amazing how brave people get behind a computer screen.
[16:03] <genii> leftyfb: They are a well known Freenode troll, just haven't popped up much lately
[16:03] <Lope> And how unhappy they must be.
[16:03] <leftyfb> genii: I figured that
[16:03] <Lope> Did you ever see the fat troll who turned his life around? was amazing.
[16:04] <Lope> Troll turned his life around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpy1FlGKYz0
[16:05] <leftyfb> Lope: lets stay on topic please
[16:06] <Lope> Cool :)
[16:11] <donofrio> leftyfb, nah "jump right in" I've been keeping up with the updates and all is well so far..... ;)
[16:12] <donofrio> leftyfb, plus sudo/screen is broken when you do-release-update from 16.04 to 17.04 if I recall correctly.
[16:21] <MJCD> I don't like fluxbox that much
[16:22] <MJCD> is there a similarly light alternative?
[16:28] <rntz> does anyone know of a good color picker app? gcolor2, the one I used to use, is no longer available in APT as of 18.04 and trying to configure from source produces a libtool error I don't care to debug; gpick, the one I found with 'apt search', doesn't seem to handle HiDPI well and I cannot understand how to pick from an arbitrary location on screen with it.
[16:33] <new0> hi everyone. i created new user from terminal but when i am trying to login via gnome i get few error messages: one of them is: could not update iceauthority file /home/user/.iceauthority
[16:33] <new0> how can i fix it?
[16:34] <JimBuntu> new0, have you tried deleting the file so it can be re-created? or chowning it to the user?
[16:35] <StoneCypher> i think i'm doing something stupid
[16:36] <new0> JimBuntu, no. but i will check it out. tnx
[16:36] <StoneCypher> i set priority for my on-board video card over my geforce, with the intent of using the geforce solely for machine learning
[16:36] <StoneCypher> now when my machine comes up, the boot sequence in text mode is on the on-board, but then it behaves as if it's sending the GUI to some other place
[16:36] <StoneCypher> if i remove the nvidia drivers, everything behaves as expected
[16:36] <StoneCypher> is there some obvious thing i may have neglected to do?
[16:39] <Serpi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_E9MxwawOI
[16:41] <new0> JimBuntu, now i understand why i got error messages. after i used useradd new-user it did not created new folder under /home but when i did mkdir /home/new-user it created it with root:root
[16:42] <PsychoBoB> ubuntu 18 are much slow
[16:42] <PsychoBoB> with chrome browser
[16:42] <PsychoBoB> why ?
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> StoneCypher, not sure, but on the surface, drivers install themselves as modules to the kernel. It's just a guess, but the kernel might be switching to the nvidia regardless of BIOS settings
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> !bionic | PsychoBoB
[16:43] <PsychoBoB> ?
[16:43] <PsychoBoB> I'm using bionic
[16:43] <pragmaticenigma> PsychoBoB, Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic) is still in beta and supported in our #ubuntu+1 channel
[16:43] <PsychoBoB> ok
[16:43] <PsychoBoB> got it
[16:44] <PsychoBoB> how i see my swap ?
[16:45] <new0> JimBuntu, what is weird right now is that when i am opening terminal.. first of: every new like is start with $ and not with new-user@pc-name second when i am using TAB for autocomplete it's do TAB space. and when CTRL + p for last cmd.. it does ^P
[16:45] <pragmaticenigma> new0, what command did you use for setting up the new user?
[16:46] <new0> if i do Arrow key up it: ^]]A
[16:46] <new0> pragmaticenigma, useradd i thing
[16:46] <new0> *think
[16:46] <nacc> new0: you wanted adduser not useradd
[16:46] <new0> pragmaticenigma, i am sure now
[16:47] <nacc> new0: also, it sounds like your shell might be configured for dash, and your new user won't have a .bashrc (which wouldn't be used by dash anyways)
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> new0, add new users using this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto#Command-line
[16:48] <new0> nacc. yea. i think now i am starting to get the picture. after JimBuntu commented me with chowning i understand + google that useradd is low level which is should have used useradd -m instead of adduser.
[16:48] <pragmaticenigma> new0, you should have used adduser... not useradd
[16:49] <new0> pragmaticenigma, yes. but this is what i knew at the time. and of course i did it via (Recovery Mode)
[16:49] <pragmaticenigma> new0, why were you in recovery mode?
[16:50] <new0> nacc, do you know how can i fix it by not using dash or but whatever should i use it for?
[16:50] <new0> pragmaticenigma, forgot my user password
[16:51] <pragmaticenigma> new0, never never never never use recovery mode for purposes other than password recovery. Do not make system changes like adding users or other configuration changes in recovery mode.
[16:52] <new0> pragmaticenigma, also, because another person needed to be on my pc. so... forgot my password... (Recovery Mode) ... useradd... chown -R new-user:new-user /home/new-user git it fixed. now the terminal autocomplete is "nice to have" fix but not must/needed
[16:52] <pragmaticenigma> new0, if you're intending on adding a new user to have Gnome/Desktop... add them using the tools in Gnome/Desktop... that way it will always work as you intended it to.
[16:52] <pragmaticenigma> new0, see previous comment on recovery mode
[16:54] <new0> pragmaticenigma, haha got it. but what would i have done in my case? can't really login to Gnome via root or by my user with password i forgot
[16:54] <pragmaticenigma> new0, I just told you... use recovery to reset your password. Reboot the machine and then do other activities
[16:55] <MJCD> hey im using lubuntu modified some - my issue is when I get the xlogin screen (ugly as hell if anyone knows how to make that pretty without a lot of heft)
[16:55] <MJCD> on that screen I don't get any session config options
[16:56] <MJCD> im trying to try out a few different wm and stuff
[16:56] <pragmaticenigma> MJCD, what do you mean "modified some" ?
[16:56] <new0> pragmaticenigma, ok... but i still wanted to keep my password intact and not change it
[16:56] <nacc> new0: it's also i think the first line in the manpage
[16:56] <nacc> new0: a password you don't know?
[16:56] <MJCD> pragmaticenigma, just made more lean really. The modifications mean that xlogin or whatever is used for the default login screen
[16:57] <MJCD> which works fine
[16:57] <MJCD> but I cant configure my session
[16:57] <MJCD> so I cant easily switch wm/dm
[16:57] <new0> pragmaticenigma, anyway, right now i am on a user i have created already.... so maybe now i can do what u recommended!! what is the Shortcut for Appliaction/Places/System?
[16:57] <new0> nacc, yes. can't remember my pass :)
[16:58] <pragmaticenigma> MJCD, that's a feature in newer DMs... older ones you have to manually change a config file
[16:59] <MJCD> pragmaticenigma, hmm really it seems like it should be simples
[16:59] <MJCD> ill switch out xlogin if thats true
[16:59] <MJCD> if you have any suggestions for something equally light
[16:59] <MJCD> or a bit heavier
[17:00] <new0> pragmaticenigma, nacc, got it :D after googlinggg Alt + F1
[17:00] <pragmaticenigma> MJCD, this is a great opportunity to go read the documenation on XDM and xlogin to find out
[17:00] <MJCD> lol ok
[17:01] <new0> pragmaticenigma, nacc, Thank you very much for your help :D chao for now
[17:02] <MJCD> pragmaticenigma, so that lead me here which ive read
[17:02] <MJCD> https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3325
[17:02] <MJCD> but I really dont want to MAKE a theme
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> MJCD, or take a look at lightdm ... which is a lightweight Display Manager https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LightDM/
[17:02] <donfluffles> is there a channel for the discussion of ubuntu 17.04/17.10?
[17:03] <MJCD> pragmaticenigma, true! I have used lightdm before
[17:03] <pragmaticenigma> donfluffles, there is only a channel for 17.10 and your in it.
[17:03] <MJCD> lemme try that
[17:03] <MJCD> I also deleted all the damn icon packs when I was cleaning it up lean
[17:04] <donfluffles> pragmaticenigma, u dont even mention the number 17
[17:04] <MJCD> which I somewhat regret
[17:04] <donfluffles> it may not be supported but it is better than the previous versions
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | donfluffles
[17:05] <donfluffles> np
[17:06] <MJCD> oh my god
[17:06] <MJCD> how is lightdm light
[17:06] <MJCD> it has like a billion deps
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> MJCD: no offtopic here please
[17:06] <MJCD> well there's no #lightdm
[17:06] <MJCD> and its an ubuntu issue
[17:07] <MJCD> all I want is the login screen to allow me to configure my session
[17:07] <MJCD> I have as said altered it to be using xlogin
[17:07] <popey> That's nice, do you have a support question MJCD ?
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> MJCD: easy on the enter button please, if you want to fix your issue, ask your question 'all in one line' and be patient
[17:08] <MJCD> popey, I literally just said - on lubuntu I have lost the ability to configure my logon session
[17:08] <MJCD> so it just uses whatever is default
[17:08] <popey> Sorry! Missed it :)
[17:08] <MJCD> lightdm's deps are huge
[17:08] <popey> MJCD: as I understand it you removed some things and you want to put them back?
[17:08] <MJCD> so id rather avoid
[17:09] <MJCD> popey, well right, like I dont want to install half of gnome
[17:09] <popey> What login session manager do you want?
[17:09] <MJCD> they have gtk or kde as options
[17:09] <MJCD> well im trying a lot of different wm's/dm's
[17:09] <MJCD> to see what I like best
[17:09] <popey> Great! Good idea.
[17:10] <MJCD> hard to do when you cant configure your login session
[17:10] <pragmaticenigma> MJCD, number of dependencies is not an indicator of size. It could be that a grouping of software is highly modularized to make it easy for shared libraries to be used by other software.
[17:10] <MJCD> I can install a thing and try it because its setup makes it the new default
[17:10] <popey> Are you on an old/slow PC? I find Lightdm pretty nice personally
[17:10] <MJCD> pragmaticenigma, true enough I suppose
[17:10] <MJCD> popey, its a vm shim designed to be extremely light
[17:11] <MJCD> the lighter they are, the more vm's we can run
[17:11] <MJCD> for the same hw $
[17:11] <pragmaticenigma> MJCD, I would understand your concern if installing lightdm also installed Gnome-Desktop or KDE-Desktop as a dependency
[17:11] <nacc> MJCD: why do you need a desktop at all for a VM shim?
[17:11] <MJCD> it also reinstalls aspell
[17:11] <MJCD> as though my vm servers need a dictionary app
[17:11] <MJCD> and bluez
[17:11] <MJCD> dispite no bluetooth
[17:11] <nacc> MJCD: well, your "VM server" needs a desktop?
[17:12] <pragmaticenigma> dictionary apps are used by password managers
[17:12] <MJCD> yeah we're offering that as a service
[17:12] <MJCD> or part of the service rather
[17:13] <MJCD> so - to circle back - all I really need from these products im already set on largely
[17:13] <MJCD> is to be able to configure each login to different ones
[17:13] <MJCD> which is pretty standard
[17:14] <nacc> MJCD: you want every user to run their own (potentially distinct) desktop session/environment?
[17:14] <MJCD> nacc, nah its 1 env but each user will have their own session
[17:14] <MJCD> via xserver
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> MJCD, to circle back to your earlier question. Why does a user need to be able to switch desktop environments. If the goal is to keep the system light and effecient, I would think you're only going to want to install one desktop environment.
[17:14] <MJCD> ideally xorg<=>xorg
[17:15] <MJCD> but also vnc
[17:15] <nacc> MJCD: so what does 'each login to different ones' mean?
[17:15] <MJCD> pragmaticenigma, I am user
[17:15] <nacc> MJCD: you mean different sessions only?
[17:15] <MJCD> I need it
[17:15] <MJCD> lol
[17:15] <MJCD> nacc, its for small teams so its all shared
[17:16] <MJCD> its not a personal privacy app
[17:16] <MJCD> type thing
[17:16] <MJCD> im going to try lightdm
[17:16] <nacc> MJCD: what?
[17:16] <nacc> MJCD: you are saying conflicting things
[17:16] <MJCD> its not vnc'ing in all to 1 desktop
[17:16] <nacc> MJCD: either each user has their own session, or they all share, you can't mean both, or you have two different sets of requirements
[17:16] <MJCD> there will be 1 x11 instance per user
[17:16] <MJCD> on the same host
[17:17] <MJCD> as I say, ideally that will be xorg to xorg
[17:17] <MJCD> works much better than rdp/vnc
[17:17] <MJCD> installing the lightdm-gtk-greeter should give me my session config options
[17:18] <MJCD> so hopefully problem solved
[17:18] <MJCD> without too much weight
[17:18] <MJCD> it just annoys me like
[17:18] <MJCD> as I said earlier I dont even have bluetooth
[17:19] <MJCD> but the thing requires it
[17:19] <MJCD> seems like it should be installed based on feature detection
[17:19] <nacc> MJCD: no package manager (afaik) does 'feature detection'
[17:20] <nacc> MJCD: presumably if you don't have bluetooth hardware, the bluetooth softward doesn't do anything
[17:20] <MJCD> nacc, yeah, im just speculating
[17:20] <MJCD> hypothesizing
[17:20] <markus_> why internet connectivity in my ubuntu suddenly stops. i mean it remain connected with wifi but i cant surf the internet then it start working again after a minute or so
[17:20] <MJCD> nacc, I know that but it bloats my gorgeous build
[17:20] <MJCD> :<
[17:20] <markus_> this is very annoying. can anyone please help me out
[17:21] <nacc> MJCD: ok, let's stick to support here, please :)
[17:21] <MJCD> markus_, ifconfig and see for corruption or whatnot
[17:21] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: It's not in the repos/supported here, but if you're comfortable with that, you can check out something like TDM or CDM
[17:22] <MJCD> SlidingHorn, never heard of them
[17:22] <MJCD> and thats not a good thing
[17:22] <pragmaticenigma> MJCD, to a degree it does. Also, when working with packages, they are designed to serve the greatest number of individuals. Sometimes that includes a few libraries that aren't exactly needed. They're small enough to not impede the overall system, and only used when needed. that's the way thigns work in Distros that leverage package managers. If you're looking for the most optomized system, you'd have to start from
[17:22] <pragmaticenigma> scratch and build your own
[17:22] <MJCD> pragmaticenigma, yeah I get it
[17:22] <MJCD> but its still something to think about for UX
[17:22] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: Your personal knowledge of a package is completely unrelated to its quality
[17:23] <MJCD> like id rather have the bluetooth installed the first time I went to use it
[17:23] <MJCD> especially when using a *-minimal
[17:23] <MJCD> for *-desktop I dont really care
[17:24] <pragmaticenigma> MJCD, that's just it, that dependenecy might only be the trigger to either raise an error or help you get the package installed on first use
[17:24] <MJCD> itd almost be like lubuntu-minimum-no-really-we-mean-it
[17:24] <MJCD> pragmaticenigma, probably ideally handled like the latest androids
[17:25] <MJCD> it gets installed the first time its used and user prompted for permission
[17:25] <MJCD> at that point
[17:25] <markus_> mjcd:nothing seems abnormal after running ifconfig
[17:26] <MJCD> markus_, do a ping google.com 10000 times
[17:26] <nacc> MJCD: this is not hte channel for development requests eitehr
[17:26] <MJCD> nacc, it came up anecdotally in conversation
[17:26] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: stop being rude to other users
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> MJCD: this isnt a conversation room
[17:27] <MJCD> lol what the hell man... I wasn't rude to anyone :/
[17:27] <MJCD> bye... :/
[17:27] <nacc> lol
[17:28] <SlidingHorn> markus_: I'm sorry, I can't scroll back far enough to see your original question.  Would you mind repeating it?
 why internet connectivity in my ubuntu suddenly stops. i mean it remain connected with wifi but i cant surf the internet then it start working again after a minute or so
[17:28] <markus_> slidinghorn:why internet connectivity in my ubuntu suddenly stops. i mean it remain connected with wifi but i cant surf the internet then it start working again after a minute or so
[17:29] <pragmaticenigma> SlidingHorn, ^ ^
[17:29] <markus_> it also start working if i reconnect
[17:34] <markus_> here is similar issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/529347/how-do-i-keep-my-wifi-from-dropping-out
[17:44] <pth> Have new ISP and new wireless router but network freezes on ubuntu machine after a while, but not on other machines. How to diagnose?
[17:50] <prince_> dai
[17:51] <prince_> tamil irukingala da
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> !english | prince_
[17:52] <prince_> naan enna ofencea pesunen
[17:52] <prince_> pls tell me ubottu
[17:53] <prince_> bye
[17:55] <donfluffles> what happens if i update to ubuntu 18.04 using sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[17:56] <pth> Have new ISP + wireless router, but network on ubuntu machine freezes after a while. How to diagnose?
[17:58] <donfluffles> plus
[17:58] <pragmaticenigma> pth, if nothing changed on the laptop prior to the new ISP and wireless router change over... my initial thought would be the wireless router isn't setup properly
[17:58] <donfluffles> i press d for details while upgrading to ubuntu 18.04 and now i dont know how to go back to the yN selection
[17:59] <deepesh> can anyone help me with aireplay-ng?
[17:59] <pth> pragmaticenigma, thanks. How to diagnose?
[17:59] <donfluffles> ugh
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> pth, we are unable to trouble shoot home networking equipment. If the router/modem is supplied by your ISP, you will need to contact them. if you purchased the router/modem, you will need to contact the manufacture
[18:01] <leftyfb> deepesh: since it's not part of the official ubuntu packages, no
[18:01] <pth> pragmaticenigma, sure but as soon as I say the word linux, they will say "we don't support" :-)
[18:01] <donfluffles> pragmaticenigma, i pressed d for details while upgrading how to go back to the yes no details selection?
[18:01] <pragmaticenigma> it's not an issue with your computer... we can't support anything except Ubuntu
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> donfluffles: #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 support please
[18:01] <pragmaticenigma> pth, you can try your luck with #networking
[18:02] <pth> pragmaticenigma, ok, will do. Thanks.
[18:02] <deepesh> @leftyfb thanks , any idea where can I get help ?
[18:02] <donfluffles> lotuspsychje, its not very complicated just dont know how to stop reading details
[18:02] <donfluffles> like
[18:02] <donfluffles> escape
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> donfluffles, the discussion about all things related Ubuntu 18.04 are in #ubuntu+1... it's not very complicated to join the other room just type /join #ubuntu+1
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> donfluffles: its not very complicated, join #ubuntu+1
[18:05] <pth> pragmaticenigma Hardly anybody on #network. I am not asking to troubleshoot, I am asking for general tips on how to diagnose networking problems. Any tips?
[18:06] <pth> pragmaticenigma How can you be sure it is not something with my computer?
[18:07] <leftyfb> pth: do other devices on the same wifi have the same issue?
[18:07] <pth> leftyfb No, the ubuntu machine is the only one with the problem. It freezes at irregular intervals, and I have to reconnect to get going.
[18:11] <leftyfb> pth: please do not private message
[18:11] <tomreyn> pth: this sounds a bit like you do not know what freezes exactly, network or the entire system / hardware?
[18:11] <pth> leftyfb Sorry, newbe.
[18:11] <pth> tomreyn It is the network throughput that goes towards zero.
[18:12] <pragmaticenigma> pth, was the computer rebooted since switching network equipment?
[18:12] <tomreyn> pth: terminal commands to diagnose networking are ping, traceroute (or mtr), ip, ethtool or mii-tool, tcpdump / tshark.
[18:12] <pth> pragmaticenigma Yes many times
[18:13] <pth> tomreyn good ideas, thanks. Tried with netstat and looked for tx errors, but there were none.
[18:14] <tomreyn> pth: it could be a wireless driver / firmware issue. post the url returned by: dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:14] <leftyfb> pth: are you able to connect to your router with ethernet?
[18:14] <tomreyn> pth: note this will post some information on your kernel / system online.
[18:14] <leftyfb> pth: that's where I would start
[18:15] <pth> leftyfb I have the possibility to connect via ethernet cable, yes, but I have not tried it.
[18:15] <leftyfb> pth: that's where I would start
[18:15] <leftyfb> pth: That will eliminate it being a wireless issue
[18:16] <pth> leftyfb http://termbin.com/i1qb
[18:18] <pth> tomreyn http://termbin.com/i1qb
[18:19] <pth> leftyfb Good idea!
[18:21] <pth> tomreyn What are we looking for in the uploaded dump?
[18:23] <pragmaticenigma> pth, at the moment the logs are showing that the WiFi is being deauth'd but I'm not seeing anything that would indicate the source
[18:24] <pth> pragmaticenigma Which line are you reffering to?
[18:24] <pragmaticenigma> [Thu Apr 19 19:19:55 2018] wlp2s0: deauthenticating from d8:d7:75:65:75:41 by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)
[18:29] <uttam> Hello!
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> hello uttam
[18:33] <JimBuntu> pragmaticenigma, I think that means it did or thinks it heard that the AP was leaving/powering off/etc. I am pretty sure this is abused to kick people off maliciously as well. I don't remember the details, I think maybe it's not an encrypted broadcast
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> JimBuntu, DEAUTH happens for many reasons, but those two are true as well
[18:35] <JimBuntu> Right, but I mean that's a "leaving" deauth, not inactive (reason 4) /etc
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> JimBuntu, it could also be that the device is too close or too far away from the AP... I don't know what all triggers DEAUTH.... I wonder if the modem they got is compromised in some way or just junky
[18:36] <JimBuntu> Oh, looks like they left, so I'll have to read what they wrote above... I a little wonder if they have multiple devices with the same BSSID
[18:37] <JimBuntu> I sure don't think all those video errors, that coincidentally seemed to always happen right before the deauth or a good sign either though
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... I wasn't sure about those
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> It does appear to be reattaching to the same BSSID
[18:45] <pth> pragmaticenigma Sorry, got disconnected :-)
[18:46] <pth> pragmaticenigma The DEAUTH_LEAVING may have been me resetting the connection... :-)
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> It's happening a lot though
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> pth, it's happening a lot, along with the your display drivers flooding the log with errors
[18:48] <ctfirc> hello, i need some help. im trying to disable "shutdown" and "reboot" button from menu in lockscreen (ubuntu 16.04). any help?
[18:48] <ctfirc> or get a password required from perform those actions
[18:49] <pth> pragmaticenigma Can you explain to me what this means?
[18:54] <volf_> mozila sletela
[18:54] <ioria> ctfirc, i think you can do that with dconf-editor
[18:56] <uttam> ctfirc, those options has been removed in later versions. Can't you upgrade?
[18:56] <pragmaticenigma> uttam, I can still shutdown or reboot from my login screen... what version are you running?
[18:57] <uttam> 18.04
[18:58] <pragmaticenigma> uttam, 18.04 is still in beta... so no, they may not want to upgrade until after the offical release
[18:58] <uttam> It was not there in 17.10 either
[18:58] <ioria> !info molly-guard
[18:59]  * BionicMac-2 looks at molly-guard...
[19:00] <pragmaticenigma> ctfirc, you can check out Molly-gaurd ... it also appears to be removed in newer releases.
[19:00] <Li> guys, try short passwd on linux ubuntu terminal, after rejection repeat it twice, lock the desktop and have fun
[19:03] <ctfirc> ok let me try with dconf-editor
[19:04] <ioria> ctfirc,  navigate  org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power
[19:06] <ctfirc> ok thanks
[19:06] <ctfirc> im there
[19:16] <lokifaer> hi all
[19:16] <rwz3652> is there a firefox addon / plugin for controlling the brightness of the firefox window?
[19:18] <SlidingHorn> rwz3652: that's more something to ask mozilla support (or you can just search the add ons for "brightness" and find out with less effort than it took to ask here)
[19:18] <rwz3652> thx
[19:18] <ntd> you can set the color yourself. or do you think it's possible to adjust the backlight on-the-fly for where the ff windows currently is?
[19:19] <rwz3652> ntd: no, not the display backlight, just the ff window
[19:20] <lokifaer> rwz3652, what ntd meant is the brightness is depending on the backlight
[19:20] <rwz3652> lokifaer: oh
[19:20] <lokifaer> so you can't control it only just for ff
[19:21] <SlidingHorn> you can...it's just not a question for here.
[19:21] <lokifaer> the whole screen or nothing
[19:21] <lokifaer> SlidingHorn, for me it's nonsense brightness is not about pixel colors it's about light
[19:22] <ioria> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/midnight-lizard-quantum/
[19:24] <lokifaer> rwz3652, why do you want to change the brightness for FF?
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> lokifaer, as was previously mentioned, we don't support firefox directly here. there are more appropriate channels for them to find the help they need.
[19:26] <JimBuntu> rwz3652, look for "night mode"
[19:26] <lokifaer> pragmaticenigma, I've got a question about Remmina, I guess you'll give me the same answer?
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> lokifaer, depends on the question
[19:28] <rwz3652> lokifaer: in the evening i simply want the ff window a bit dimmed. but dimming the whole display via backlight makes other programs too dim.
[19:28] <JimBuntu> right rwz3652 It's just that this is the official ubuntu channel for current releases/etc. There is a FF channel, no doubt, and they will possibly be able to throw more plugins at you then you want
[19:28] <lokifaer> pragmaticenigma, I don't understand how to use the "share folder" feature
[19:28] <rwz3652> JimBuntu: i tried a bunch of night mode addons, but nothing worked. either the ff window went completely black or there was no effect at all
[19:29] <JimBuntu> rwz3652, I really can't help as I don't even use firefox
[19:29] <rwz3652> its okay, i used the content->color settings for now
[19:29] <Rukus> hello. I installed xanmod kernel and now i dont want it. What can i do to revert to original kernel?
[19:30] <Rukus> or latest for 16.04 LTS
[19:30] <SlidingHorn> Rukus: you should just be able to select it from the grub menu
[19:30] <Rukus> hahah
[19:30] <Rukus> oops wrong window
[19:30] <Rukus> umm
[19:30] <Rukus> its headless
[19:32] <Rukus> SlidingHorn, is there another way?
[19:33] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, yes, there is a way to change the default kernel from a config file
[19:34] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, changing the value for GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub will allow you to change which grub entry is booted by default (kernel selection)
[19:34] <juliangallego86> hi
[19:34] <juliangallego86> Am I finally chatting?
[19:35] <Rukus> pragmaticenigma, thanks i'll have a closer look and se if i can understand
[19:35] <JimBuntu> juliangallego86, Well, you are showing up, but this isn't a chat channel.
[19:35] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, I'm trying to figure out how you can determine the value
[19:35] <juliangallego86> Thanks Jim, I'm just looking forward to learn more.about Linux
[19:36] <Rukus> pragmaticenigma, me too
[19:36] <Rukus> i change the menuentry right?
[19:36] <Rukus> grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:37] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, you shouldn't change anything in /boot ... it will get overwritten with the next update
[19:37] <Rukus> then put oh ok n/m
[19:37] <Rukus> i just wan xanmod gone
[19:37] <Rukus> and default lts kernel is fine
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, was the xanmod kernel installed via apt?
[19:38] <Rukus> i forget how i did it
[19:38] <Rukus> i tihnk i would have
[19:39] <Rukus> echo 'deb http://deb.xanmod.org releases main' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xanmod-kernel.list && wget -qO - http://deb.xanmod.org/gpg.key | sudo apt-key add -
[19:39] <Rukus> then
[19:39] <Rukus> apt install
[19:39] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, I think you should be able to run "sudo apt purge linux-xanmod" to remove it
[19:39] <Rukus> ok sweet
[19:39] <Rukus> i knew i was overthinking this
[19:40] <Rukus> E: Unable to locate package linux-xanmod
[19:40] <Rukus> same for lts version
[19:41] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, did you remove the PPA already?
[19:41] <Rukus> yes
[19:41] <juliangallego86> I was trying to go to #ubuntu-beginners and I ended up here. Can anybody tell me how to go there in freenode, please?
[19:41] <ioria> Rukus, dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[19:41] <Rukus> but i am not sure if i did it right
[19:41] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, readd the PPA using those previous instructions... then try to remove again
[19:41] <Rukus> k
[19:42] <pragmaticenigma> !register | juliangallego86
[19:42] <juliangallego86> Thanks
[19:42] <Rukus> no dice
[19:42] <lokifaer> Rukus, https://forum.xanmod.org/thread-222.html could maybe help?
[19:42] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, did you do the sudo apt update first?
[19:43] <Rukus> oh shoot
[19:43] <Rukus> nothing still
[19:43] <ioria> Rukus, also ls /boot might help you
[19:44] <juliangallego86> !register | juliangallego86
[19:44] <Rukus> lokifaer, I saw that.... but they arent myh kernel version in that list
[19:44] <juliangallego86> Alright
[19:44] <lokifaer> Rukus, but maybe you could adapt one of the .sh file for your version
[19:45] <juliangallego86> I probably look like a blind guy stumbling around lol. Thanks guy, bye
[19:45] <Rukus> linux-image-4.13.16-xanmod23
[19:45] <Rukus> hmm
[19:46] <pragmaticenigma> !ty | juliangallego86
[19:46] <Rukus> ffs
[19:46] <Rukus> now this comp is beinga pos
[19:46] <Rukus> i cantg win
[19:47] <Rukus> i literally have garbage for ocmputers
[19:47] <cmrabet> Hi all
[19:47] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, a cautionary tale about installing customer kernels. They don't like to leave
[19:47] <lilac> hello :)
[19:48] <pragmaticenigma> *custom kernels
[19:48] <lilac> is this channel appropriate for ubuntu openstack related questions?
[19:48] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | lilac
[19:48] <cmrabet> I want to make a read-only image of Ubuntu so I can install in a system that shutdown will happen by removing power (no safe shutdown). Is there any tool or good source of information that explains how to do this? Thanks.
[19:48] <lilac> okay :]
[19:48] <lilac> i note that https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/build-openstack specifies a minimum of 4 nodes with 8GB RAM each
[19:49] <lilac> is 4 nodes strictly necessary, and is 8GB ram each strictly necessary?
[19:49] <cmrabet> The target system is a LattePanda (similar to RPi).
[19:49] <theGoat> so i have just spun up a new instance of dovecot for imaps.  seems to start, and i believe i have everything correctly, but i don't see it listening on port 993, and can't figure out what is wrong
[19:49] <cmrabet> I want to do this to avoid corruption of files
[19:50] <Rukus> pragmaticenigma, i am not sure how to edit that script. i shanged what i tohught i should... but it tellems no kernel elgiible to purge
[19:50] <Rukus> or lokifaer_
[19:50] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, I'm not certain... you might need to reach out on the forum for that xanmod kernel
[19:51] <lokifaer_> Rukus, # NOTE: This script will ALWAYS keep the currently running kernel
[19:51] <pragmaticenigma> cmrabet, I'm sure it's possible, but I cannot find any documentation that would be current to recent editions of Ubuntu
[19:51] <lokifaer_> Rukus, I guess you first have to boot with another kernel
[19:51] <lilac> looking to deploy a small production openstack cloud
[19:52] <cmrabet> pragmaticenigma, ok thanks
[19:52] <Guest20> Landscape supported here?
[19:52] <Rukus> lokifaer_, oh i get it
[19:52] <Rukus> thanks
[19:53] <Rukus> k i'll let you know what happens
[19:53] <Rukus> i will make this headless havea head
[19:53] <Rukus> semmes easiest
[19:53] <juliangallego86_> Test
[19:53] <new0> pragmaticenigma, hi. u remember that u told me never never.... so use Recover Mode for anything other than reset user pass? well, when i was in that process i thought to me self, here i have an opportunity to learn how is some stuff works.. anyway about when i use TAB to autocomplete a cmd i was really curious to learn how it is working. because sometime i installing new applications and i don't get auto complete with TAB.
[19:56] <Rukus> lokifaer, same error
[19:56] <new0> pragmaticenigma, e.g. i have installed git and all the time i am using git [TAB] it's showing me the commands and if i start with some letter it give me suggestions or auto complete with command. but when i installed git-ftp and i am using it with git ftp (push|init|config) it does not auto complete it. but if i have learned how it's working i might setup my auto complete! understand? and btw if u can point to with some direction i will appreciate it
[19:56] <Rukus> i've switched kernels
[19:56] <Rukus> media@mediaserver:/home/downloads$ uname -rs
[19:56] <Rukus> Linux 4.4.0-119-generic
[19:57] <pragmaticenigma> new0, that is up to the developer of the program to define the autocompletable options. Not all program have that feature.
[19:57] <Guest57597> is there anybody using ubuntu 18.04 with nvidia gpu?
[19:57] <pragmaticenigma> Guest57597, please /join #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 support
[19:58] <Guest57597> ty
[19:59] <Rukus> everyone. I got it purged via apt.... turns out it was what its called that matters
[19:59] <Guest20> is Ubunsu Landscape supported here?
[19:59] <Rukus> ofc
[19:59] <Rukus> apt purge linux-xanmod*  found it
[20:00] <SlidingHorn> Guest20: Feel free to ask your question...if someone knows the answer, they'll respond.  Also, consider changing your nick to something more unique so others may more easily respond :)
[20:00] <Rukus> thanks pragmaticenigma , lokifaer,
[20:01] <Rukus> i mean lets hope its gone :P
[20:01] <lokifaer> Rukus, you're welcome
[20:01] <pragmaticenigma> Guest20, Landscape is a paid support product from Canonical. Please use their support channels for help.
[20:01] <lokifaer> Rukus, you just were able to remove it by booting on another kernel or did you do something else in addition to that?
[20:02]  * SlidingHorn didn't know that, my bad, pragmaticenigma 
[20:02] <pragmaticenigma> Timmah50, you can still ask your question and someone here might have some knowledge. It is not something we commonly encounter
[20:03] <Rukus> lokifaer, i boot to another kernel and then i used sudo apt purge linux-xanmod*
[20:03] <Rukus> i assume its gone
[20:03] <Rukus> nope
[20:03] <Rukus> its not
[20:03] <Rukus> fml
[20:03] <lilac> what would be the dead minimum number of nodes to setup a "production" ish ubuntu openstack cloud?  is it possible to get away with less than 4?
[20:04] <Rukus> i dont know why itwont go
[20:04] <pragmaticenigma> lilac, No, there is a reason for 4... 1 is the controller, another is a load balancer
[20:04] <lokifaer> Rukus, what makes you say that?
[20:04] <Rukus> uname -rs
[20:04] <lilac> i see
[20:05] <Rukus>  lokifaer  uname -rs
[20:05] <Timmah50> I'm trying to add clients to Landscape. I'm using the command: sudo landscape-config --computer-title $HOSTNAME --account-name standalone  --url https://Landscape/message-system --ping-url https://Landscape/ping --ssl-public-key=/etc/ssl/certs/landscape_server.pem
[20:05] <Rukus> lokifaer, Linux 4.13.16-xanmod23
[20:05] <Rukus> its still there
[20:05] <lokifaer> Rukus, you rebooted again?
[20:05] <lilac> is it possible to set them up with these services being on one or a couple of machines, and later moved to their own machines
[20:05] <Rukus> lokifaer, yeah
[20:05] <lilac> or does it actually need to be 4
[20:05] <Timmah50> It's failing with this in log
[20:05] <Timmah50> 2018-04-19 16:02:35,052 INFO     [MainThread] Message exchange failed.
[20:05] <Timmah50> 2018-04-19 16:02:35,052 INFO     [MainThread] Message exchange completed in 0.01s.
[20:05] <Timmah50> 2018-04-19 16:03:35,053 INFO     [MainThread] Starting urgent message exchange with https://Landscape/message-system.
[20:05] <Timmah50> 2018-04-19 16:03:35,059 ERROR    [PoolThread-twisted.internet.reactor-0] Error contacting the server at https://Landscape/message-system.
[20:05] <Timmah50> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20:05] <Timmah50>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/landscape/broker/transport.py", line 71, in exchange
[20:05] <Rukus> PASTEBIN
[20:05] <pragmaticenigma> Timmah50, use PASTEBIN for long texts
[20:06] <pragmaticenigma> lilac, the documentation says a minimum of 4 is required. There is no way around that
[20:07] <Timmah50> https://pastebin.com/MiT6VksM
[20:07] <lilac> okay, thanks
[20:07] <lilac> sorry :P
[20:08] <Timmah50> curl https://landscape/message-system works fine
[20:08] <SlidingHorn> Timmah50: I'm assuming that the error is because the URL is invalid.
[20:08] <lokifaer> Rukus, if you try again to boot on Linux 4.4.0-119-generic and do the purge again, does it seems to do it or do you get an error?
[20:09] <SlidingHorn> Timmah50: are you capitalizing the L in your curl command?
[20:10] <Rukus> lokifaer, i'll try again, but i did try that earlier and it told me no kernels eligible for purge.... i changed in script anything 4.14 to 4.13
[20:10] <Timmah50> yeah it works with either
[20:11] <Timmah50> SlidingHorn i have my domain after it but I took it out when I posted the command
[20:11] <alkisg> Hi, is there any way to use quotes in Unity's Alt+F2 dialog? For example, I can run `xterm -e date&&bash` if I don't use any spaces at all, but I can't run `xterm -e "date && bash"`
[20:12] <pragmaticenigma> Timmah50, I think the question is... is the domain for that installation supposed to start with an upper case L
[20:12] <pragmaticenigma> Timmah50, depending on your DNS configuration, the url can be case sensitive
[20:13] <lokifaer> Rukus, maybe modify that line: KEEP=2 to 0
[20:13] <Timmah50> pragmaticenigma thanks let me try the command with lowercase. ping, curl, and openssl s_client worked ok so I figured it didn;t matter
[20:16] <Rukus> lokifaer, its gone now
[20:16] <Rukus> i mean i said that last time
[20:16] <Rukus> but i purged it afik
[20:16] <Rukus> afaik
[20:17] <Rukus> lokifaer, success!
[20:17] <lokifaer> Rukus, are you sure? :P
[20:18] <Timmah50> same error
[20:18] <Rukus> so... what i did was... dpkg --list | grep linux-image  then after located the EXACT file name .. i sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x-x-generic
[20:18] <Rukus> then i updated grub
[20:18] <Rukus> sudo update-grub2
[20:18] <Rukus> and reboot
[20:18] <Rukus> i knew i was overthinking it
[20:18] <pragmaticenigma> Timmah50, it usually shouldn't matter on the domain, but sometimes virtual host definitions canbe
[20:19] <Rukus> lokifaer, truthfully this was the command: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-4.13.16-xanmod23
[20:19] <Rukus> now its gone for good
[20:20] <Rukus> thanks for the push in the right directions guys
[20:20] <pragmaticenigma> Rukus, now i think it is safe to remove that PPA to hopefully avoid it sneaking back in
[20:22] <lokifaer> Rukus, sure
[20:23] <Timmah50> So I tried changing --ssl-public-key=/etc/ssl/certs/landscape_server.pem which is a chain of all the CA certs. Unforch that didn't work either
[20:23] <donfluffles> any kodi channel?
[20:23] <oerheks> !alis
[20:24] <donfluffles> oh okay i only have to search for a whole list
[20:24] <donfluffles> simple
[20:24] <oerheks> :-)
[20:25] <donfluffles> i see no kodi channel
[20:25] <oerheks> donfluffles, then check their website, we are not the yellow pages
[20:26] <donfluffles> you're the blue
[20:26] <donfluffles> pages
[20:26] <pragmaticenigma> oerheks, Google is your friend... I just did a search and found it. I'm sure you can to
[20:26] <pragmaticenigma> o
[20:26] <donfluffles> too*
[20:27] <oerheks> yeah, we know google
[20:27] <oerheks> !google
[20:27] <oerheks> Kodi might be o a different network, who knows?
[20:27] <pragmaticenigma> sorry oerheks ... mean to direct my comment to someone else
[20:27] <donfluffles> oh my god yes it literally has bold big white letters that says IRC Channel
[20:28] <pragmaticenigma> oerheks, it's on freenode... beyond that... donfluffles can find it themselves I'm sure
[20:28] <donfluffles> its an application how can it have a network
[20:29] <donfluffles> no kodi
[20:29] <donfluffles> on networks
[20:29] <pragmaticenigma> donfluffles, in the time it has taken you to whine about our refusal to help you... You could have already searched and found the IRC chat room.
[20:30] <donfluffles> its an add-on
[20:30] <arooni> having trouble mounting a samba drive via guest... getting mount error(112): Host is down ;; but i know its not because according to smbclient -L 192.168.1.1 -U guest ; its up.  using this as my mount in fstab: //192.168.1.1/Main /media/HardDriveArooni cifs guest 0 0
[20:30] <donfluffles> shit
[20:30] <donfluffles> ur right
[20:30] <pragmaticenigma> !language | donfluffles
[20:31] <bonzibuddy> window 15
[20:31] <bonzibuddy> woops
[20:31] <donfluffles> clear
[20:32] <donfluffles> okay found it
[20:32] <donfluffles> #kodi-linux
[20:32] <donfluffles> isnt working
[20:33] <donfluffles> except if ill go on these unofficial empty channels that were made randomly
[20:34] <pragmaticenigma> donfluffles, this is not a chat room... take your discussion else where. If you do not have an Ubuntu Support question, this isn't the venue for you
[20:48] <Timmah50> omg i found it
[20:48] <Timmah50> Wrong file permissions may also cause this error. The certificate file should be readable by others: chmod o+r /etc/landscape/server.pem
[20:54] <pragmaticenigma> !yay
[20:55] <madsj> Is there any pitfalls in using the dac_override capatibility in an AppArmor profile? As I understand, the service can only read files from places not specified more detailedly.
[20:55] <madsj> Is -> Are there
[20:57] <pragmaticenigma> madsj, I think it depends on what your goal is
[20:58] <madsj> It's a pain to get Apache to run in enforce-mode, and aa-logprof did suggest it.
[21:00] <pragmaticenigma> madsj, I'm not familiar enough with AppArmor to know what to suggest. Is enforce-mode more strict than the default profile?
[21:03] <arooni> hey team; trying to safely mount an encrypted home partition (ugh never again) that was encrypted with ubuntu 14.10 ( i have the password) ;; on ubutnu 16.04;  i spent an hour on this yesterday trying stuff like sudo encryptfs-recover-private but couldnt get it working ;;; ideas?
[21:10] <madsj> pragmaticenigma: I think default is complain. complain just warns about actions that are not allowed (writing/read from a directory not in the profile).
[21:11] <pragmaticenigma> arooni, you could try using a VM with 14.04 installed, and decrypt it there and extract the data out
[21:11] <arooni> i think i just realized the LOGIN passphrase is NOT THE SAME as the MOUNT passprhase
[21:11] <arooni> well its definitely plenty secure ; not sure i want to encrypt my hard drive again tho lol
[21:15] <am_ex> hi there!
[21:17] <am_ex> I have a problem with my 2,4GHz wireless mouse when I try to copy some files via USB 3.0... Mouse cursor is freezing and moving trajectory is partial... Who knows how can I solve this problem?
[21:18] <am_ex> My system is Ubuntu 18.04, SSD 512, 16Gb DDR3, USB3.0, Mouse Logitech Anywhere MX 2
[21:21] <pragmaticenigma> !bionic | am_ex
[21:22] <am_ex> pragmaticenigma, in the ubuntu 16.04 the same situation, man
[21:22] <am_ex> And in the 17.10 too
[21:27] <am_ex> Any ideas?
[21:27] <oerheks> am_ex, good to mention that in #ubuntu+1 too
[21:28] <am_ex> oerheks, allready
[21:30] <pragmaticenigma> am_ex, the issue is that your mouse and hard drive are on the same USB channel. Move the mouse to a different port (usb 2.0 perhaps) and see if the issue resolves itself
[21:33] <am_ex> pragmaticenigma, I am tried allready to switch usb ports for my mouse, but no luck. But, if I connect my USB-stick or USB-HDD to usb 2.0 - then no have some mouse freezing
[21:33] <SlyFoxx> Hey everybody! I've a noobie question(Ubuntu newbie here), I just installed 16.04.4 lts version on a Virtual Box on a 5K iMac, I allocated 6GB ram for it, 35GB storage, made sure I've 2 cores allocated for it, enabled 3D acceleration for display, dabbled with screen resolutions etc... but UI is STILL laggy/slow, at this point I gotta wonder... is t
[21:33] <SlyFoxx> his possible the best experience one can hope for when Ubuntu is installed on a VM or am I doing something wrong? thanks
[21:35] <nacc> SlyFoxx: plenty of people run VMs without lag.
[21:35] <nacc> SlyFoxx: I have never used virtualbox, so I don't know how much is due to that.
[21:35] <SlyFoxx> my current(default) gpu driver is llvmpipe, and when I go to additional drivers to change it, it just simply won't apply the changes, I choose a driver driver but once I hit apply it reverts back to default :-/
[21:35] <SlyFoxx> nacc I see... yeah not sure what else to try :-/
[21:36] <SlyFoxx> because it looks like I've allocated more than enough hardware for it to run smoothly, I think this is a GPU driver issue :-/
[21:39] <genii>  SlyFoxx: If you have a secondary GPU or video card which the host can relinquish, you could enable hardware passthrough on it to the VM
[21:42] <SlyFoxx> genii what do you mean secondary, a dedicated gpu? I do have one although I'm not sure how I can passthrough it, because from what I've read since this is not a bare metal virtualization hardware passthrough is not necessary, many of these articles/stack overflow questions suggest things should work out of the box but this is not the case as UI is
[21:42] <SlyFoxx> incredibly sluggish/laggy :-/
[21:45] <Ben64> you're not going to get good performance without passthrough
[21:45] <coolball_> hey
[21:46] <dimisdas> So … I’m running a small home ubuntu server for Plex and file storage. And when running NetHogs, I get a strange process from root taking up bandwidth that doesn’t have a PID
[21:46] <shazbotmcnasty> hey there - I had to reinstall my OS - i've got multiple users /home directories on SDC1, I installed my new OS on sda1 -- I've already got sdc1 as /home - but how do I recreate the users and have them have the same /home directories as before?
[21:46] <shazbotmcnasty> the /home/username1 already exists in /home
[21:46] <dimisdas>      ? root     192.168.100.2:9089-190.88.162.136:45784                                              0.032       0.038 KB/sec
[21:47] <dimisdas> the external IP changes every few minutes, with servers located all over the world
[21:47] <coolball> I got my new hardware
[21:47] <dimisdas> Does anyone know where do I begin to look it up?
[21:47] <Timmah50> Has anyone gotten Ubuntu to work with Smart Cards/CAC cards? This is the only official documentation I can find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonAccessCard
[21:47] <Timmah50> This line appears to no longer work   git clone https://github.com/OpenSC/pam_pkcs11.git
[21:47] <Timmah50> cd pam_pkcs11
[21:47] <Timmah50> ./bootstrap
[21:47] <Timmah50> ./configure --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr
[21:47] <Timmah50> make
[21:47] <Timmah50> sudo make install
[21:49] <xamithan> The clone line ?
[21:49] <xamithan> Which part doesn't work
[21:50] <oerheks> Timmah50, see the site, no longer maintained
[21:50] <uplime> whats the difference between pkcs11 and pkcs12?
[21:50] <GuiToris> hey, is it safe to upgrade to a newer release?
[21:51] <Timmah50> xamithan I think the "make" line
[21:51] <oerheks> GuiToris, sure, if you want 18.04, wait for the release first.
[21:51] <xamithan> Well the project hasn't had a commit in over 2 years
[21:51] <xamithan> You better find a different one
[21:51] <Timmah50> oerheks I saw. I was wondering why Ubuntu would reference something so outdated
[21:52] <GuiToris> oerheks, thanks :)
[21:52] <Timmah50> Without that pkcs11 the whole thing won't work
[21:53] <oerheks> Timmah50, good question, we are writing newer manuals as we speak,
[21:53] <Timmah50> I didn't know there was a pkcs12
[21:53] <Timmah50> i did know of pkcs15
[21:53] <arooni> so apparently my old decrepit router couldn't understand the type of ext4 file system that ubuntu 16.04 formatted usb hard drive... so it required me to reformat via its version of ext4 mkfs ... q 1) how common is it that linux devices cant understand other ext4 versions 2) what kinds of features would i be losing from using an older ext4 version
[21:54] <en1gma> i have I3-4005 cpu. i run ubuntu 16.04.02 LTS Desktop amd x86_64.  what do i need to install to get clinfo to show i have a cpu device at least and also a gpu device
[21:55] <xamithan> I don't see why you would need the github for that anyway,  I see a libpam-pkcs11 package in the universe repo
[21:55] <oerheks> en1gma, lscpu, and for video lspci | grep VGA
[21:55] <en1gma> oerheks thanks
[21:55] <en1gma> 1 se
[21:55] <oerheks> lshw, lsusb are the other tools
[21:56] <en1gma> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
[21:56] <en1gma> yea but i think i install all the important opencl-icd etc stuff
[21:56] <en1gma> shouldnt it be showing up
[21:56] <en1gma> with 'clinfo'
[21:57] <Timmah50> xamithan thank you I'll look into that. The libpam-pkcs11 doesn't seem part of the documentation so I can't remember off the top of my head if i tried it
[21:57] <xamithan> Timmah50: I think you'll have better luck just following the arch wiki for CAC and modifying it for ubuntu
[21:58] <xamithan> All the packages are in the regular repos I think,  opensc,  pam modules, etc.
[22:01] <en1gma> 'sudo apt-get install  ocl-icd-libopencl1 ocl-icd-opencl-dev opencl-headers clinfo'
[22:02] <en1gma> 'clinfo' should display something besides 0 devices right?
[22:02] <en1gma> "number of platforms 0"
[22:03] <adalbert> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sshfs-fuse/+bug/159031 (8year old bug , still present in current releases :()
[22:05] <oerheks> y
[22:10] <adalbert> well, that is just great ... :(
[22:10] <oerheks> adalbert, add yourself to the bugreport, if it affects you too?
[22:11] <oerheks> nothing we can do, really
[22:11] <shazbotmcnasty> hey there - I had to reinstall my OS - i've got multiple users /home directories on SDC1, I installed my new OS on sda1 -- I've already got sdc1 as /home - but how do I recreate the users and have them have the same /home directories as before?
[22:11] <adalbert> oerheks: do I need to sign up for that ?
[22:11] <shazbotmcnasty> the /home/username1 , /home/username2, etc already exists in /home
[22:11] <oerheks> adalbert, yes, but it is free
[22:12] <shazbotmcnasty> usermod -m -d /newhome/username username  ??
[22:13] <de-facto> geeky me, couldnt wait to buy a new ssd, is it out yet? wish it was, yet is it all cool and frozen already and where can i grab a rc iso for playing around?
[22:13] <shazbotmcnasty> https://www.screenshottr.us/v/df1deed53f50eba26a6c465a38a39400/949dfae6aa1c67def45ed3f09fbf8ce3.png     ??
[22:14] <shazbotmcnasty> There's so many answers I'm finding I can't figure out the correct one
[22:14] <xamithan> Just make the users and specify where the home directories are and what UID you need them to be
[22:15] <shazbotmcnasty> Any mods around? Got a creep creepin
[22:15] <phil42> !ops
[22:16] <en1gma> 'sudo apt-get install  ocl-icd-libopencl1 ocl-icd-opencl-dev opencl-headers clinfo'
[22:16] <en1gma> number of platforms = 0
[22:16] <oerheks> shazbotmcnasty, join #ubuntu-ops for that.
[22:16] <shazbotmcnasty> ok.
[22:16] <en1gma> I3-4005u cpu on ubuntu
[22:16] <shazbotmcnasty> #ubuntu-ops
[22:16] <shazbotmcnasty> ugh
[22:19] <en1gma> someone please help
[22:21] <adalbert> When they say: ... is a Long Term Support release and has support for 3 years. Do they mean just those 3 years from the start , or 3 years after the release of the latest version ?
[22:21] <tomreyn> shazbotmcnasty: (1) there are two approaches you can take: create the same usernames with the same group memberships again on the new system, then, for each user, recursively chown their home directories to these new users and their primary group. (2) - probably much easier, but it's only possible if this is a newly setup ubuntu where you did not create any additional users: just replace /etc/passwd, shadow, group, gshadow by those you used to
[22:21] <tomreyn> have on the old system (but back the new ones up before you do).
[22:22] <shazbotmcnasty> Thanks tomreyn very much. It is a newly set up system, no additional users have been created yet.
[22:22] <shazbotmcnasty> just have the /home directories that I need to remake the users for.
[22:24] <tomreyn> adalbert: it's actualyl 5 years from the inital release. see 16.04 (and point releases) here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[22:24] <DalekSec> adalbert: Point releases are just updates of the ISO with the most recent packages in the repo and hwe stuff.  So inital date.
[22:24] <DalekSec> (Some flavors, or most, do 3 years only.)
[22:24] <tomreyn> right
[22:26] <DalekSec> https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life has a couple charts.
[22:26] <tomreyn> shazbotmcnasty: i..e you no longer have the old systems' /etc ? then the second approach is not an option for you (and information of which user belonged to whgich groups is probably lost, as are their passwords), and you'll need to go with the first approahc.
[22:26] <adalbert> DalekSec: Oke but for example, if at this moment someone heads to xubuntu , it reads 16.04 has 3 years support, but knowing 18 will come out soon, this information is misleading to new users .
[22:27] <DalekSec> 1604 had 3 years, from April of 2016.  18.04 will have 3 years from April of 2018.
[22:27] <DalekSec> adalbert: I guess I'm not entirely sure what the problem is.
[22:27] <adalbert> DalekSec: nvm.
[22:28] <tomreyn> and xubuntu.org says "Xubuntu 16.04.4 LTS was released in March 2018. The LTS release is supported until April 2019 and is the recommended version for all environments that require stability."
[22:28] <adalbert> tomreyn: I was talking about the download page, the top of it
[22:29] <pragmaticenigma> Here's a listing of all EOLs for Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[22:30] <adalbert> thnx pragmaticenigma .
[22:30] <tomreyn> adalbert: i see. this also points to the release announcement, whjich was posted in april 2016, then states this release has 3 years support. i guess i don't see much of an issue ther either.
[22:32] <shazbotmcnasty> tomreyn: ok. I was hoping that I could do the second one because it sounded easier. What exactly does 'chown their home directories to these new users and their primary group' ?
[22:32] <shazbotmcnasty> s/ /mean*
[22:32] <xamithan> shazbotmcnasty: "man chown"
[22:34] <tomreyn> shazbotmcnasty: "chown" is a command to change the user and group a file, directory or other file system object belongs to. it offers the -R switch which allows you to update ownership of multiple objetcs, iterating over all subdirectories of the given path recursively.
[22:37] <tomreyn> shazbotmcnasty: chown is a somewhat common command to use. since you do not know it, yet, i assume you do not have a lot of experience of managing servers. and yet, you seem to be confronted witht he task of managing and even migrating a multi user system. this is not an ideal situation, and you should try to get support from someone more proficient in this area, someone who is local to you, to provide some guidance, at least initially.
[22:40] <tomreyn> it might also be good to try this in a VM (or two) before you do it on the live system, to get a better idea of how user and group ownerships, emmebrships and permissions play out together.
[22:46] <pragmaticenigma> adalbert, what was your original inquiry earlier?
[22:49] <abignale> Hello, people
[22:49] <adalbert> pragmaticenigma: I was a bit confused with the end of life , but after reading your link of Releases, I'm now aware v16 is good till 2021 not 2018.
[22:51] <adalbert> pragmaticenigma: *... end of life of release v16*
[22:52] <aphotica> What are some security concerns with Systemd? Everyone seems to trash talk it being default on ubuntu
[22:53] <oerheks> there is a difference between ubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu support,  5 / 3 / 3 years
[22:54] <oerheks> aphotica, if we know, there is a bugreport about it.
[22:54] <oerheks> note: securitybugs are not free readable, only selected teams/persons can do that
[22:55] <StoneCypher> i can't find x :D   i have a heavy duty video card in a new ubuntu box, but i want it to be a ml workhorse, and to use the video card on the motherboard for the screen.
[22:55] <oerheks> a list: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bugs
[22:56] <StoneCypher> when i don't have the nvidia drivers loaded, everything works as expected.  when i do have them loaded, the onboard video card shows the boot text, and stops there.  i'm able to log in by ssh, and nvidia-smi says the geforce is unused
[22:56] <StoneCypher> i would appreciate a cluesticking?
[22:58] <oerheks> StoneCypher, your bios might have that option: primairy gpu
[23:00] <adalbert> (<oerheks> there is a difference between ubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu support,  5 / 3 / 3 years) - noted.
[23:00] <StoneCypher> oerheks: yeah, it does, and i did that
[23:01] <StoneCypher> oerheks: that's what got me as far as the thing showing the boot test
[23:01] <StoneCypher> oerheks: but then it doesn't progress to the gui, which is 1) confusing, and 2) see 1
[23:01] <StoneCypher> boot text *
[23:02] <StoneCypher> so i kind of think i just have my video set up wrong but i don't know where to look to confirm
[23:02] <oerheks> StoneCypher, what plugged in videocard is this? Nvidia gives an option, in the nvidia tool: prime
[23:02] <StoneCypher> the nvidia card, which the monitor is not plugged into, is a 1080 8g founders' (not ti)
[23:02] <oerheks> reverse your primairy to nvidia, boot, and select primairy in the nvidia settings/prime
[23:03] <StoneCypher> the monitor is plugged into some random onboard intel chipset
[23:03] <StoneCypher> oh.
[23:03] <StoneCypher> ok i can try that.  how do i install this tool?  thank you
[23:03] <oerheks> it comes with the nvidia driver, AFAIK
[23:04] <StoneCypher> happen to know what it's called?
[23:04] <oerheks> software&updates > drivers
[23:04] <StoneCypher> oh ok
[23:04] <StoneCypher> thank you :)
[23:04] <oerheks> type nvidia in dash, and the tool pops up
[23:04] <StoneCypher> gotcha
[23:04] <StoneCypher> i am almost 100% an ssh linux user.  totally clueless about the wm stuff
[23:17] <StoneCypher> oerheks: i feel like i might be missing something
[23:17] <StoneCypher> i ran software-configuration-gtk and got a window with the described title.
[23:18] <StoneCypher> it doesn't have a drivers tab but it does have an additional drivers tab, so i switched to that
[23:18] <StoneCypher> no need to search for nvidia; it's the only thing in the list.  but it just gives me a few radio buttons for driver versions
[23:20] <lilac> does anyone know why adding a VMWare chassis to MAAS doesn't seem to do anything?
[23:20] <lilac> similarly, adding individual machines using the VMWare power type doesn't work -- i can save the settings but it complains it can't connect
[23:20] <lilac> using virsh to connect to the esxi server works fine thoughh
[23:22] <lilac> i've tried adding a chassis with Nodes -> Add hardware -> Chassis, and with Nodes -> Add hardware -> Machine
[23:22] <lilac> does it only work with a vcenter server, or...?
[23:24] <tomreyn> there's #ubuntu-server, probably more suitable for such questions
[23:25] <tomreyn> lilac: actually try #maas
[23:25] <StoneCypher> aha, it's in nvidia x server settings
[23:25] <StoneCypher> oerheks: thanks
[23:25] <lilac> okay, didn't realise it had its own channel
[23:25] <lilac> thanks :)
[23:31] <StoneCypher> hm.
[23:31] <StoneCypher> i have nvidia-prime installed, but PRIME Profiles doesn't show where the tutorial screenshots say it should
[23:31] <StoneCypher> oh maybe i need the intel drivers installed too
[23:33] <oerheks> intel is standard supported by the kernel.
[23:36] <undeclared> Hey all.  I was running hdparm --security-erase on my hdd when I suddenly had a power failure, on reboot I get all kinds of input/output errors in my booting.  I was wondering if anyone would know how to fix this, besides running the security erase again.
[23:37] <undeclared> Don't care about the data being erased anymore, rather get the drive working again
[23:38] <USERNAME00> have you tried formatting with cfdisk?
[23:38] <undeclared> nope
[23:38] <undeclared> ok says cannot open input/output error
[23:38] <USERNAME00> cfdisk /dev/sd?
[23:38] <USERNAME00> fdisk -l to list drives
[23:38] <undeclared> yeah cfdisk /dev/sdi in my case
[23:38] <Mobutils> Question: I'm writing a git hook script to deploy and reload my application, however to restart my process i need to use supervisorctl, which requires sudo... i have added the command to sudoers such that no password is required. but when i post, i get `sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified` and when i add -S it looks like its asking for a password. Any suggestions on what to do here?
[23:38] <USERNAME00> then cfdisk /dev/device
[23:39] <undeclared> I did cfdisk /dev/sdi and it didn't like it
[23:39] <undeclared> it's not listed
[23:39] <USERNAME00> sudo fdisk -l
[23:39] <undeclared> when I do that it skips the sdi drive entirely
[23:39] <USERNAME00> dunno.
[23:39] <undeclared> screwed?
[23:39] <USERNAME00> totes ma goats
[23:40] <USERNAME00> no probably not. but i cannot assist sorry
[23:40] <undeclared> np
[23:40] <undeclared> thanks for trying
[23:40] <undeclared> hdparm -I does work
[23:42] <undeclared> ahh man I'm so deumb
[23:42] <undeclared> dumb*
[23:42] <undeclared> when I set password for secure erase, it locked it.. still was locked, all I had to was unlock it and it works now
[23:45] <Randolf> undeclared:  Misspelling intended?  ;)
[23:45] <undeclared> nope, just that deumb ;)
[23:45] <Randolf> (Don't answer that.)
[23:46]  * Randolf laughs at this coincidental travesty
[23:47] <undeclared> might have not even worked the security erae
[23:47] <undeclared> erase
[23:47] <undeclared> that's the worst part
[23:47] <undeclared> so all for nothing lol
[23:54] <Mobutils> does anyone know if changes via visudo are immediate? or require a reboot?
[23:54] <undeclared> haha, wow.. didn't even work 1 bit, all my files are there intact
[23:55] <deww> Mobutils: you prob need to logoff and back in
[23:55] <deww> not reboot tho