[01:01] <Unit193> FurretUber: Aha, just remove indicator-application from the system, then you can use indicator-messages and indicator-sound if you don't like xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin.  The defaults still have -messages installed and working, but actually uses sn-plugin.  I have dropbox as well, and much less issue with sn-plug than -application.
[01:25] <FurretUber> Yes, it's much better with xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin. The remaining question is: the icon of indicator-multiload is not centered, is this a bug?
[01:28] <Unit193> Never used it.
[01:32] <FurretUber> Its icon is significantly larger than the other icons, as it shows graphs of CPU usage, RAM, etc. As it's big, 2 icons do not fit in a single line. With xfce4-indicator-plugin it was centered but with xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin it's not. https://i.imgur.com/TSp9Dpp.png
[01:33] <FurretUber> I understand this is pretty minor
[01:33] <Unit193> Sounds like xfce4-systemload-plugin and xfce4-cpugraph-plugin.
[01:42] <FurretUber> They have similar functionalities, but the xfce4-systemload-plugin shows nothing when hovering with the mouse,
[01:42] <FurretUber> I can't remember another program with a icon like indicator-multiload has
[01:43] <Unit193> Does for meeee.
[01:45] <FurretUber> Now I'm curious: why isn't it showing information when I hover with the mouse (restarted xfce4-panel already)
[04:32] <flocculant> Wimpress: ha ha ha - you see the comment in that bug re mate I hope :p
[10:59] <bluesabre> lp seems to be timing out if you try to submit a comment
[11:06] <bluesabre> And seems to be fixed now
[17:12] <jarnos> Unit193, what is sn-plugin? I have used this trick in Xubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 to launch Dropbox: https://askubuntu.com/a/832942/21005
[17:12] <jarnos> Good thing is that panel icon works and Dropbox will not be saved in session. 
[17:14] <jarnos> I wonder will the trick work in Bionic (as the trick uses Upstart methodology) and is it the best solution there?
[17:14] <krytarik> !info xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin
[17:15] <ubottu> xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin (source: xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin): plugin to display status notifiers in the Xfce4 panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 59 kB, installed size 307 kB
[17:15] <jarnos> !sn-plugin
[17:16] <krytarik> Nono, that's it. :)
[17:16] <jarnos> krytarik, of it was abbreviations
[17:16] <flocculant> bye bye gksu
[17:17] <krytarik> Thanks, jbicha!
[17:17] <flocculant> indeed
[17:17] <jarnos> flocculant, what is there in place of that?
[17:18] <flocculant> jarnos: pkexec I guess - it'll work for some things
[17:18] <flocculant> don't really know
[17:19] <flocculant> and I'd guess that jbicha doesn't care as long as gnome and ubuntu are ok
[23:38] <FurretUber> I'm trying to save my panel using xfpanel-switch, but it's giving a error when I press to save: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HffR9HnG3s/