[00:34] Since I installed Mesa utils, youtube videos won't play. [00:34] help. [00:35] I'll try a reboot [00:38] Mesa utils shouldn't be causing issues like that. [07:26] https://imgur.com/a/H30YMCM no kvirc icon at panel and window. tray and plank show icon lubuntu 18.04 [10:55] when will lubuntu 18 will be released [10:58] 26 april [11:37] When I lock my desktop screen, I get a blank screen when I get back and I have to restart lightdm service from another tty, which closes all my windows [11:41] here's the log of `systemctl status lightdm.service`. I think the last line is interesting: https://ghostbin.com/paste/7cwyz [15:17] I'm at the point where I really need to do a reinstall this weekend - am I better off installing 17.10 and then upgrading to 18.04 when it comes out, installing the 18.04 beta, or using the daily? [15:19] I'd use 16.04 up until 2021 [15:20] Why? [15:22] I'd rather just use Stretch if I'm going to install something that isn't fresh. [15:22] ryan-c, it depends what your needs from an OS are [15:23] either being on the bleeding edge or you prefer stability and so on [15:24] I prefer stability, and have mostly had good luck even with fairly recent *buntu LTS releases. (my current system is 14.04 and has become unstable due to bad configuration choices I made) [15:27] I really like being able to do an install and use it for 3-5 years before having to do a fresh install. [15:28] so do i === Thedarkb1 is now known as Thedarkb [20:24] Hi there. I'm gonna read a book that needs Kali Linux installed. Can I combine it with lubuntu or just install kali? [20:25] mand0lin: you could probably do it with lubuntu but you'd need to install all the tools that are built into kali and there may be version mismatches so ymmv [20:25] thanks wxl [20:26] mand0lin: kali is a security-focused distro and so they may have patches that we dno't [20:26] can I still do usual stuff with kali? I really enjoy lubuntu [20:26] well you could run kali in a vm in lubuntu [20:26] probably more appropriate anyways [20:27] that said kali is debian based so your experience will be similar to lubuntu in many ways [20:28] https://docs.kali.org/policy/kali-linux-relationship-with-debian <<< mostly it's debian testing except a few forks [20:28] i will say the list of tools you'll need to install in lubuntu are ridiculous https://tools.kali.org/tools-listing [20:29] I'd like to have Kali and lubuntu on different PC's just in case I f+++ up with Kali...I've heard it's easy [20:29] that said, i'd suggest getting a virtual machine and running kali in that, inside your lubuntu install, at least assuming you have the ram [20:29] ok thanks wxl [20:29] so you could do something like this: [20:29] 1. install kali in a vm [20:30] 2. take a snapshot [20:30] 3. do some upgrades to kali [20:30] 4. take a snapshot [20:30] 5. do something that creates a problem [20:31] at that point, you have the option of reverting back to the state of #2 or #4, which might help determine where you went wrong. in that way, it's a good tool for learning [20:31] ok. I'm finishing a book on python and then I'll try Kali (it appears in abook called black hat python) [20:32] you mean grey hat python? cuz that's a great book [20:32] oh no you mean black hat. haven't read that one. i think i've got the epub laying around though. same author. [20:32] well i've found black hat python [20:33] i didn't know there was grey hat as well :) [20:33] i think grey hat was first [20:34] so this author is getting rogue as time goes by (?) XD [20:34] I'll check it [20:34] thanks wxl [20:35] grey hat is more based on reverse engineering [20:35] black hat is actually more offensive security [20:35] you can look at grey hat as a programming security book where as black hat is more of an operational security book [20:36] anyways have fun :) [20:36] thanks, appreciate your help [20:36] no problem