[00:34] <Thedarkb-X40> Since I installed Mesa utils, youtube videos won't play.
[00:34] <Thedarkb-X40> help.
[00:35] <Thedarkb-X40> I'll try a reboot
[00:38] <Irritiable|LT> Mesa utils shouldn't be causing issues like that.
[07:26] <JohnDoe1> https://imgur.com/a/H30YMCM no kvirc icon at panel and window. tray and plank show icon lubuntu 18.04
[10:55] <paradis> when will lubuntu 18 will be released
[10:58] <JohnDoe_71Rus> 26 april
[11:37] <egy> When I lock my desktop screen, I get a blank screen when I get back and I have to restart lightdm service from another tty, which closes all my windows
[11:41] <egy> here's the log of `systemctl status lightdm.service`. I think the last line is interesting: https://ghostbin.com/paste/7cwyz
[15:17] <ryan-c> I'm at the point where I really need to do a reinstall this weekend - am I better off installing 17.10 and then upgrading to 18.04 when it comes out, installing the 18.04 beta, or using the daily?
[15:19] <diogenes_> I'd use 16.04 up until 2021
[15:20] <ryan-c> Why?
[15:22] <ryan-c> I'd rather just use Stretch if I'm going to install something that isn't fresh.
[15:22] <diogenes_> ryan-c, it depends what your needs from an OS are
[15:23] <diogenes_> either being on the bleeding edge or you prefer stability and so on
[15:24] <ryan-c> I prefer stability, and have mostly had good luck even with fairly recent *buntu LTS releases. (my current system is 14.04 and has become unstable due to bad configuration choices I made)
[15:27] <ryan-c> I really like being able to do an install and use it for 3-5 years before having to do a fresh install.
[15:28] <diogenes_> so do i
[20:24] <mand0lin> Hi there. I'm gonna read a book that needs Kali Linux installed. Can I combine it with lubuntu or just install kali?
[20:25] <wxl> mand0lin: you could probably do it with lubuntu but you'd need to install all the tools that are built into kali and there may be version mismatches so ymmv
[20:25] <mand0lin> thanks wxl
[20:26] <wxl> mand0lin: kali is a security-focused distro and so they may have patches that we dno't
[20:26] <mand0lin> can I still do usual stuff with kali? I really enjoy lubuntu
[20:26] <wxl> well you could run kali in a vm in lubuntu
[20:26] <wxl> probably more appropriate anyways
[20:27] <wxl> that said kali is debian based so your experience will be similar to lubuntu in many ways
[20:28] <wxl> https://docs.kali.org/policy/kali-linux-relationship-with-debian <<< mostly it's debian testing except a few forks
[20:28] <wxl> i will say the list of tools you'll need to install in lubuntu are ridiculous https://tools.kali.org/tools-listing
[20:29] <mand0lin> I'd like to have Kali and lubuntu on different PC's just in case I f+++ up with Kali...I've heard it's easy
[20:29] <wxl> that said, i'd suggest getting a virtual machine and running kali in that, inside your lubuntu install, at least assuming you have the ram
[20:29] <mand0lin> ok thanks wxl
[20:29] <wxl> so you could do something like this:
[20:29] <wxl>  1. install kali in a vm
[20:30] <wxl>  2. take a snapshot
[20:30] <wxl>  3. do some upgrades to kali
[20:30] <wxl>  4. take a snapshot
[20:30] <wxl>  5. do something that creates a problem
[20:31] <wxl> at that point, you have the option of reverting back to the state of #2 or #4, which might help determine where you went wrong. in that way, it's a good tool for learning
[20:31] <mand0lin> ok. I'm finishing a book on python and then I'll try Kali (it appears in abook called black hat python)
[20:32] <wxl> you mean grey hat python? cuz that's a great book
[20:32] <wxl> oh no you mean black hat. haven't read that one. i think i've got the epub laying around though. same author.
[20:32] <mand0lin> well i've found black hat python
[20:33] <mand0lin> i didn't know there was grey hat as well :)
[20:33] <wxl> i think grey hat was first
[20:34] <mand0lin> so this author is getting rogue as time goes by (?) XD
[20:34] <mand0lin> I'll check it
[20:34] <mand0lin> thanks wxl
[20:35] <wxl> grey hat is more based on reverse engineering
[20:35] <wxl> black hat is actually more offensive security
[20:35] <wxl> you can look at grey hat as a programming security book where as black hat is more of an operational security book
[20:36] <wxl> anyways have fun :)
[20:36] <mand0lin> thanks, appreciate your help
[20:36] <wxl> no problem