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Bashing-omMichael Larabel is some kind of prolifferant . Getting boreing " Michael Larabel writes " .00:59
krytarikCould always variate at the verb at least though! :P01:01
Bashing-omhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rise-Tomb-Raider-Linux-Tomorrow is outdated by the former article . remove it ?01:52
Bashing-omhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-applications-open-source-software-suite-gets-first-major-release-in-2018-520768.shtml though more detailed is a repeat of the ups Michael Larabel article .01:56
Wild_ManBashing-om, by what former article?01:58
Wild_ManBashing-om, I realize that link that Tomb Raider has already been released today but I see it as just a way to let people know that it has been released, just my opinion we will see what krytarik thinks and the second link to me in no way just restates that gnome has been released it talks about many apps so, I looked that that before I posted it, I think it is good to keep it again just my opinion I am not an expert at this02:04
Wild_ManBashing-om, I have been thinking about the Tomb Raider link since it will be next week before we publish I think you are correct we should remove it, we can probably find an updated one to replace it with02:17
Bashing-omWild_Man: Does not this suffuce for Tomb raider "https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=tomb-raider-20 ' in our summary ?02:23
krytarikSomeone please reword the KDE Applications summary. :P02:25
Wild_ManBashing-om, that will do, I looked at the the kde application link again and the writer of that article changed his article from just talking about Dolphin to include all the things in the link you posted so it is a duplicate now but the second link is better I think we should leave that one and remove the first one02:27
krytarikOr in fact, pick the Softpedia one in favor of that.02:28
Wild_Mankrytarik, that is what I am saying as well, it is better in my opinion02:28
krytarikYeah, I've just read your last message. :)02:29
Wild_Mankrytarik, I am curious do it show me logged into gdoc? I see you and Bashing-om but not myself, I assume that is the way gdoc is supposed to be02:31
Wild_Mando/does02:31
krytarikYeah, one always just sees the other ones.02:31
Wild_Manok02:31
Wild_ManI hope Bashing-om looks in here to see what we said about removing that link because I think he is trying to rewrite the summary, I wonder if I should remove it?02:33
Bashing-omWild_Man: Agreed .. to scrap Michael Larabel's article and write up the release article .02:34
krytarikYeep! :D02:34
krytarikAlso, the robot summary is both too short and the sentence doesn't really make sense to me at the end.02:35
Wild_Mankrytarik, I am not good at grammar these days, why does not summary need rewritten?02:35
Wild_Mannot/that, I really need to triple check my typing before posting in here02:36
krytarikAlso, keep in mind that this time we'll also try and sling in the other editors - so there will hopefully a bit more review be going on than just us three.02:36
Wild_ManI hope more summary writers as well but I would hate to leave the summaries until the weekend and be disappointed, so I do not know.02:38
Wild_ManI only received four replies out of about 3002:38
guivercWild_Man: as someone who wrote to writers regularly after summaries, 4 replies of 30 is actually very good!  Lyz would probably say its an outstanding response!  likewise Simon..02:46
Wild_Manguiverc, It sure is better then none02:47
guivercalso I only have 'view mode' to doc, writers will need write access to gdoc too02:48
krytarikguiverc: If you would like write access to it, PM me your email address and I can add you.02:50
Wild_Mankrytarik, did you look the gdoc down so people can not easily edit it?02:55
guivercPM - you're stretching an old guy like me...  (let me know you got it)02:56
krytarikWild_Man: We did last we after a lengthy discussion - don't you remember?02:57
krytarik..Week.02:57
Wild_Manlets not talk about getting older guiverc02:57
Wild_ManI was not sure that it was actually done02:57
Wild_ManYes I remember the discussion02:58
Wild_ManI hope if the summary writers show up to write that they pop in here.02:59
guivercWould be nice, but I never saw it  (I didn't do email summaries that long anyway  -- i did ~50 contribs before I actually entered this room anyway03:00
Wild_ManI am afraid if the come and see they can not write to the gdoc that they will just leave03:01
Wild_Manthe/they03:01
krytarikWell, I certainly don't want to check every day if anybody has planted an easter egg someplace in it.. :P  Unlike just deleting the whole thing like last week, which is pretty obvious.03:07
krytarikAnd e.g. my computer can't really handle the docs' history function at all, so..03:08
Wild_ManDo you want to add the emails of the people that replied and said they would help? or wait until they show up?03:09
krytarikIf they are Gmail ones, I guess yes.03:09
Wild_Manthey have to be gmail?03:09
krytarikYep, or connected to it.03:10
oerheksoerheks@ubuntu.com was not valid :-(03:11
guivercwhy not just mention in email that they'll need to request-write access (if they don't already have it)... ie. warning & be ready for responses...03:11
guiverci noted a 'request write' access on gdoc (alas after I'd mentioned access here)03:12
Wild_Manguiverc, that is what I was thinking of doing, is editing the email that goes out to the summary writers03:16
guiverc:)03:17
Bashing-omWe have enough material ? ( still need to populate general) Do we want to write up a success story on the Dell XPS on 18.04 ?04:09
Bashing-omhttps://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2018/04/a-month-with-dell-xps-13-9370/04:10
krytarikGeneral is really only for official community news.04:12
Wild_ManBashing-om, we can probably use it but as krytarik said not in General, I am having trouble finding articles to put in this section04:15
Bashing-omkrytarik: Yup, and my official community news sources are skimppy this week :P04:15
krytarikIirc it isn't always populated.04:16
Bashing-omkrytarik: Well, yeah .. got nothing to say, best say nothing :)04:17
krytarikYuup! :)04:17
krytarikBashing-om: As to the above post, maybe replace the literally one-sentence gksu one with it..?04:22
krytarikCould write about the OMG post on it instead then if you'd like.04:23
krytarik..Or that was someplace else.04:24
Bashing-omkrytarik: Might be able to flesh out the gksu issue ,, seen some flack in the channels in that respect .04:26
krytarikI mean it's kind of important, so we should find some proper post about it.04:26
Bashing-omkrytarik: See what i can find - uncle Google !04:27
krytarikYep!  At it too! :P04:27
krytarikOr just wait two days.. :P04:28
Bashing-omSaturday will bring it's own problems . let us deal with what is now . gksu !04:30
Wild_Manthe one I posted by Jeremy Bicha has a link to the bug report on how to do it now, he is the dev that removed it04:33
krytarikYeah, but no details whatsoever..04:33
krytarikI mean that's like linking to the bug report directly - except with one more click.04:36
krytarikhttp://www.linux-magazin.de/news/ubuntu-18-04-lts-verzichtet-auf-gksu/ - the German one I had in mind there instead btw. :P04:37
krytarikSo I'd say we wait a day at least and see what more pops up.04:38
Bashing-omkrytarik: Yup seen that , points to : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=892768 and we can reference the bug to flesh out the summary .04:38
krytarikThat's like writing a post yourself..04:38
Bashing-omkrytarik: Would for sure be stretching the definition of "summary" .04:39
Wild_Manthis is from today https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2389656&highlight=gksusetting it up is a bother04:40
krytarikYes...04:40
Bashing-omkrytarik: As An aside, I have no used gksu in ages ... since I seen the man page for ' sudo -H ' .04:40
krytarikI'll go to bed now, good night folks! :)04:41
krytarikI have never used 'sudo -H' myself yet tbh.04:41
Wild_ManBashing-om, sudo -H no longer works either04:42
Bashing-omWild_Man: I still use it here on xubuntu 18.04 .04:43
Wild_ManI tried earlier on Ubuntu it is a no go04:43
Bashing-omWild_Man: Ouch .. lemme test ! updates may have killed it .04:43
krytarikWho needs root anymore... :D04:44
Wild_ManI do!04:44
krytarikSuch a stickler to the core..04:44
Wild_ManYep!04:45
krytarikFwiw, I always use 'sudo -i'.. :P04:45
Bashing-omWild_Man: ' sudo -H ' upper case h .. still works for me .04:46
Wild_Manthat is good04:46
Wild_Mankrytarik, sudo -i does work04:47
krytarikSee, I always use the most robust stuff! :P04:47
Bashing-omWild_Man: However, I can believe that I must learn policyKit .04:47
Wild_ManBashing-om, sudo -H works for me now, I guess 18.04 was acting up earlier04:48
Wild_ManI tried several times earlier and it did not work04:48
krytarik"Don't work"... :D04:48
krytarikDetails, dude!04:49
Wild_ManI use the terminal for almost everything these days04:49
Bashing-omWild_Man: Them there Grimlins .. never can tell what they are up to .04:49
krytarikI got Lynx there.. :P04:49
Wild_Manindeed04:50
Bashing-omWild_Man: Should we stretch "summary" an in the gksu article also give the debian bug report link ?04:54
Wild_ManYes I think so04:55
Wild_ManNo, I just remembered that it says no links in the summary its self, you have to add it after the summary04:56
Wild_ManBashing-om, ^^04:57
Bashing-omWild_Man: Let's see if it flies by a sweep :) // that is waht I meant to ass it after the header's link .04:57
Bashing-omass/*add04:57
Wild_Manok04:57
Bashing-omWild_Man: Like so - have a look - is what I suggest . And rest on it .05:06
Wild_ManBashing-om, maybe I am getting to tired, you want me to look at the gksu article right? I do not see the link to the bug report05:11
Wild_ManBashing-om, I did add a link under the General Section that I think can stay there05:12
Wild_ManI think it is time to call it a night05:12
Bashing-omWild_Man: I placed it right below the https://jeremy.bicha link .05:13
Wild_Manmaybe I need to refresh the page05:13
Wild_Manit showed up after refreshing the page, that works for me05:15
Wild_ManBashing-om, tomorrow we probably should adjust the summary to say the bug report link is included?05:16
Bashing-omWild_Man: So yes .. let's call it a night :)05:16
Wild_ManIndeed!05:16
Wild_Mansee you tomorrow after I get done at the VA05:16
Wild_ManThanks for all the great work!05:17
Bashing-omNite nite - do not let the bed bugs bite :P05:17
Wild_ManNight05:17
Bashing-omTaking a break from mowing - catch up on where we are for publishing . I see we have added help :)18:40
krytarikYes! :)18:45
Bashing-omAt a stopping place, back to mowing . I return here soonest :)19:22
krytarikNow, wrt this channel's ACL: 1.) Who is Beuno..?  And 2.) I'd like to have op rights too (I'm no Ubuntu member yet still), just in case.. :)19:27
krytarik(To be clear, particularly for the case where spammers quite literally hit every channel in the Ubuntu namespace, regardless of topic or size - which I've also seen hit this one before.)19:34
Bashing-omWild_Man: WB :) .. I am in the midst of mowing .. in and out as I take an opportunity of respite from the mower .20:21
Wild_ManBashing-om, Okay did you see my message you in the gdoc?20:22
Bashing-omWild_Man: No ..I did not see any in gdoc .. lemme recheck .20:22
Bashing-omWild_Man: Uh Huh .. it workie // was of some wonder how to chat there :)20:24
Bashing-omGonna go have that reel mower beat up in me a bit more .. back in jusst a few .20:55
Wild_ManBashing-om, see you!20:57
Bashing-omBack .. My attention however is presently in the forum - will check here periodically .22:13
Wild_ManBashing-om, okay22:18

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