[00:09] <ltomi> hello'
[00:17] <USERNAME00> Have you tried sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade?
[00:18] <USERNAME00> The beta isos are old, many updates have been released, unless you downloaded a nightly iso.
[00:18] <ltomi> i'm updating every day
[00:18] <ltomi> I've updated successfully several times
[00:21] <ltomi> my main issues are two: screen brightness and something in a kernel's kworker which has a high cpu usage due to some obscure ACPI issue
[00:22] <ltomi> I guess kworker issue could be solved when I installed updates today, but I'm not sure
[00:24] <USERNAME00> I'm sorry I am not familiar with kworker or kde
[00:24] <lapaga> http://sourcedigit.com/22707-install-brightness-controller-ubuntu-brightness-application/
[00:24] <USERNAME00> i know at boot something called intel brightness loads
[00:25] <ltomi> my laptop has only one GPU, and it's NVIDIA
[00:27] <ltomi> http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126185/en-us
[00:27] <ltomi> It's an already released nvidia driver, not the latest, but the issue could remain since then.
[00:27] <ltomi> "Added an nvidia.ko kernel module parameter, NVreg_EnableBacklightHandler, which can be used to enable experimental handling of laptop backlight brightness through /sys/class/backlight/. This handler overrides the ACPI-based one provided by the video.ko kernel module."
[00:27] <ltomi> Could this be related to my brightness issue?
[00:27] <ltomi> GNOME not being able to detect brightness control from nvidia driver?
[00:36] <quidnunc`> Why can I only play sound as root?
[00:37] <ltomi> aren't you assigned to the usergroups which can manage and use audio devices?
[00:38] <quidnunc`> ltomi: which are?
[00:39] <ltomi> idk, just said
[00:41] <ltomi> my user account seems to be attached to these groups: <my group>, adm, cdrom, dip, plugdev, lpadmin, sambashare
[00:41] <quidnunc`> thanks
[00:41] <ltomi> please search in google about your problem
[00:42] <quidnunc`> ltomi: I have
[00:42] <quidnunc`> no answers
[00:42] <ltomi> please run "groups" in terminal
[00:42] <ltomi> no elevated rights are needed 
[00:43] <quidnunc`> adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare vboxusers docker
[00:44] <ltomi> then I don't know... you are part of the same groups I am
[00:46] <ltomi> https://askubuntu.com/questions/54741/only-root-can-play-sounds
[00:46] <quidnunc`> ltomi: That's extremely old
[00:46] <ltomi> "Use a text editor as root and manually edit the /etc/group file. Look for the line that says audio and add your username to the end.
[00:46] <ltomi> This is how the line looked before I edited it:
[00:46] <ltomi> audio:x:29:
[00:46] <ltomi> This is how the line looked after I edited it:
[00:46] <ltomi> audio:x:29:username
[00:46] <ltomi> Save the file and logout, then log back in and test sound. If it doesn't work try rebooting just to make sure changes are applied and test audio again."
[00:47] <ltomi> try that if works
[00:49] <ltomi> Or more cleanly, sudo adduser  <your username> audio
[00:50] <quidnunc`> ltomi: I did that
[00:51] <quidnunc`> ltomi: It doesn't work
[00:51] <quidnunc`> but I may have to logout
[00:51] <ltomi> Did you add yourself to pulse-access too?
[00:51] <ltomi> Yes, try logging out and in again
[00:52] <ltomi> Let me search more information
[00:52] <quidnunc`> ltomi: It's okay, I can search as well as you can 
[00:54] <quidnunc`> anyway, adding the user to those groups doesn't work either
[00:54] <ltomi> did you restart the system instead?
[00:54] <quidnunc`> I'll try that
[03:06] <what_now> Is this where I can get help upgrading to 18.04?
[03:11] <SlidingHorn> what_now: yessir...what's up?
[03:13] <robbmunson> Bionic's just a few days away!
[03:13]  * robbmunson dances
[03:14] <tsimonq2> !isitoutyet
[03:14] <tsimonq2> ;)
[03:15] <robbmunson> I know, but yay.
[03:15] <SlidingHorn> lol I didn't know that was a thing with ubottu
[03:15] <robbmunson> Yeah it's a very old factoid.
[03:15] <robbmunson> Forgot we even had it really.
[03:15] <SlidingHorn> Been here since Dapper and didn't know that...
[03:16] <robbmunson> Ditto.
[03:17] <robbmunson> But I run an ubottu clone, so I kinda cheated in looking at factoids...anyways...
[03:51] <quidnunc> pulseaudio daemon isn't running for one user on my machine. How do I get it to run? 
[04:07] <what_now> Hello, just upgraded to 18.04. I have a Dell XPS 15 with 4K monitor and Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 GPU Mobile with 4GB GDDR5 RAM. Currently have Nvidia-384 installed, however not happy with it
[04:07] <what_now> WHen I shut down the computer via software, it won't shut off, it just hangs
[04:07] <Bashing-om> what_now: Ok, Ya made the upgrade and still have nvidia driver issues ?
[04:08] <what_now> Bashing-om, Yes, did a reboot, and on shut-down it still just hangs I think I can try again to be sure
[04:10] <Bashing-om> what_now: What I suggest at this point is to get the DSDT table to that of latest : http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html .
[04:12] <what_now> Bashing-om, Thank, will look into that more. I had messed with that months ago, and wasn't able to get it to work the way I wanted
[04:15] <Bashing-om> what_now: Not to say that the nvidia driver may not have some effect on the shut down process .. but this base is better covered  as an ACPI deal .
[04:16] <what_now> Bashing-om, ok. FWIW I just tried to install Burp Suite. It started but the text is VERY VERY small, unusable at this point
[04:16] <Bashing-om> what_now: Also best in bininic with hubrid graphics to be in the Xprg session rather than wayland . But the nvidia driver is comming along in wayland .
[04:17] <Bashing-om> what_now: Yired now and npot paying attention .. repeat what I messed up !
[04:17] <what_now> Bashing-om, so what steps do you recommand 1st, the acpi? Is it safe to  just run the script?
[04:18] <Bashing-om> what_now: " Also best on bionic with hybrid fraphics to be in the Xorg session ....."
[04:19] <what_now> Bashing-om, signing out to switch to xorg
[04:19] <Bashing-om> what_now: I have knowm of several that have ran the scrip .. all to good effect .. no bad things have happened .
[04:22] <what_now> Bashing-om, welp, the 17.10 login gear icon to switch to xorg is gone, how do I know what I am using
[04:24] <Bashing-om> what_now: At the password screen is the gear icon on the lower right of the pass word box .
[04:25] <what_now> Bashing-om, look like I am in xorg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cGyq93XWWf/
[04:26] <Bashing-om> what_now: ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE ' ?
[04:26] <what_now> Bashing-om, response: X11
[04:27] <what_now> Bashing-om, also, I have my settings, devices, mouse pegged for touchpad speed and it is still not fast enough on the 4k screen, ideas to increase it?
[04:28] <Bashing-om> what_now: Good .. Mind ya .. I do not know the current status of wayland with hybrid graphics .
[04:29] <what_now> NP
[04:29] <what_now> I tried to manually do the ASCPI, and the 1st command fails: strings: '/sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT': No such file
[04:30] <what_now> Bashing-om, I am surprised I have so much of an issue with the 4K screen, they've been out quite a while now
[04:30] <Bashing-om> what_now: Back to prior question , " I have known of several that have ran the scrip .. all to good effect .. no bad things have happened ."
[04:32] <what_now> Bashing-om, I had assumed that the manual commands listed are the same as the script, Will run script
[04:33] <what_now> Bashing-om, ran script, going to reboot to test per page
[04:34] <Bashing-om> what_now: the command you ran is ' sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows ' ; right ?
[04:35] <what_now> Bashing-om, I'm back, I don't notice any differnce
[04:36] <what_now> not sure what I was supposed to experience. 
[04:40] <Bashing-om> what_now: lemme think how to verify what the DSDT is now .
[04:42] <what_now> Bashing-om, what does DSDT do for display?
[04:46] <Bashing-om> what_now: It controla ACPI (Advanced Host Controller Interface)     what shows " cat /proc/cmdline " ? // and I bet the nvidia driver is still not installed !
[04:48] <what_now> Bashing-om, BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-15-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=ad0ec2a9-fe2a-4548-acea-dcfb41da00c5 ro acpi=off acpi_osi=! acpi_osi= quiet splash acpi_rev_override=5 vt.handoff=1
[04:48] <what_now> It appears my right click is not working?
[04:49] <Bashing-om> what_now: What a mess . where did " acpi=off " come from ???
[04:50] <what_now> Bashing-om, I do not know
[04:52] <Bashing-om> what_now: How are your editing skills ? remove " acpi=off " from /etc/default/grub . See then if there is an effect .
[04:52] <what_now> Bashing-om, We'll find out :) Nano is ok, VIM I struggle
[04:53] <Bashing-om> what_now: Remember to run ' sudo update-grub ' when the edit is done .
[04:54] <Bashing-om> what_now: nano does all I need :)
[04:54] <what_now> Bashing-om, The line now looks like: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=\""
[04:55] <Bashing-om> what_now: Let's go with that .. save it and update grub .
[04:55] <what_now> BRB :)
[05:05] <Bashing-om> what_now: Smoke break !
[05:07] <what_now> Bashing-om, Result: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-15-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=ad0ec2a9-fe2a-4548-acea-dcfb41da00c5 ro acpi_osi=! acpi_osi= quiet splash acpi_rev_override=5 vt.handoff=1
[05:07] <what_now> Bashing-om, what difference should I see?
[05:10] <what_now> Bashing-om, FWIW: Nvidia https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KxPBQH9xnF/
[05:11] <Bashing-om> what_now: Looking .
[05:11] <tsimonq2> Smoking is bad for you. :P
[05:12] <what_now> Bashing-om, and more Nvidia stuff, looks like it is recognized: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gsKPTrcdNZ/
[05:13] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: Working on not smoking .,, So far holding to the plan :)
[05:13] <tsimonq2> \o/
[05:13] <what_now> Bashing-om, and the NVidia server app is responsive
[05:14] <what_now> Bashing-om, appears I can switch in the Nvidia server GUI program from Nvidia to Intel?
[05:14] <Bashing-om> what_now: ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[05:15] <what_now> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d8wzyfZsSr/
[05:15] <what_now> Still no right click :(
[05:18] <what_now> Bashing-om, however, double finger tap on touchpad, will right click
[05:19] <what_now> Bashing-om, I thank you for your help with all of this!
[05:21] <what_now> FWIW, Gnome-Tweak-Tool changed the two finger tap to right touchpad area, now it works as expected
[05:22] <Bashing-om> what_now: Hey no problem, glad2help , ' cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' as all else looks good .
[05:23] <what_now> Bashing-om, No such file or dir :(
[05:23] <Bashing-om> what_now: Ouch . Got to have that file for hybrid graphics !
[05:26] <what_now> Hmm
[05:26] <Bashing-om> what_now: Where did you pull that 390 driver from ? ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' ,
[05:26] <what_now> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9psYSZ5bxf/
[05:28] <what_now> Bashing-om, FWIW I now have a battery icon on my top tray whereas it wasn't there before removing ascpi-off
[05:29] <Bashing-om> what_now: Pulling from our PPA .. good . what shows  sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" .
[05:30] <what_now> sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*"
[05:30] <what_now> find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
[05:32] <what_now> Bashing-om, did I get the command correct?
[05:33] <Bashing-om> what_now: Just checking that here are no stray nvidia installers left around . The command as given is correct and confirmed.
[05:33] <what_now> Thanks
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> does anyone feel like having a slow gdm3 to desktop feeling, please add affected here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1742063
[05:34] <Bashing-om> what_now: Let's try this ' sudo apt purge nvidia ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' see if that config file gets generated .
[05:35] <what_now> Will I need to reinstall nvidia drivers after that?
[05:36] <what_now> Bashing-om, Very interesting output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CYsKh979wM/
[05:36] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: will do .. as my desktop (xfce4) takes about 8 seconds to start .
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: over-all or 8 sec from login to desk?
[05:37] <Bashing-om> what_now: that will install the driver the system chooses from the PPA .. maybe even 396 ?? 
[05:38] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Yeah .. I get the login real fast .. enter password and have to wait for the desktop .
[05:38] <what_now> Looks like it. From driver page looks like latest is 396.18 is beta. As you can see, doesn't install
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: same here, add yourself affected with systemd-analyze blame plz?
[05:39] <what_now> Bashing-om, i don't see the held broken package listed, should I
[05:40] <Bashing-om> what_now: Nope .. that broken driver has been cleared .. what driver installed at this time ?
[05:40] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Will do at my soonest .
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> tnx mate
[05:41] <what_now> Bashing-om, dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia again? if so looks like 390 again
[05:41] <what_now> still no xorg.conf
[05:43] <Bashing-om> what_now: I can not imagine that biobic does anythging in Xorg that was not done before ... and /etc/X11/Xorg.conf we got to have !
[05:44] <what_now> Bashing-om, Poking around: 
[05:44] <what_now> lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA
[05:44] <what_now> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:591b] (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[05:44] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Ya got a hybrid box with bionic installed .. can verity that /etc/X11/Xorg.conf exists ?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: lemme check
[05:45] <Bashing-om> what_now: ' sudo lshw -C display ' told us this is a hybrid box .. what laptop is this again ?
[05:46] <what_now> Dell XPS 15 9560
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: xorg not there mate
[05:47] <what_now> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/24mcMWfzZN/
[05:47] <what_now> brb
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: lotuspsychje@R00TBOOK:~$ whereis xorg
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> xorg: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg /usr/lib/xorg /usr/include/xorg
[05:51] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: G0t homework to do then; how switching graphic's sets has changed !
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: seems like user related right?
[05:52] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Got me right now .
[05:52] <what_now> Bashing-om, I'm back. Oddly enough I could use software reboot. I have NEVER been able to do that. So after rebott, tried again, it failed, just hung at the desktop
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> cant find wayland
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> perhaps when logged in to wayland
[05:53] <Bashing-om> what_now: seems now that /etc/X11/Xorg.conf is not ised in bionic . what shows ' whereis xorg ' ?
[05:54] <what_now> Bashing-om, xorg: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg /usr/lib/xorg /usr/include/xorg
[05:55] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Naw .. we did change to Xorg . issues in 17.10 and upgraded to 18.04 to see if the system is happier .
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> mine is clean install Bashing-om 
[05:56] <Bashing-om> what_now: That is same as lotuspsychje reports in one of his boxes .
[05:57] <what_now> and lotuspsychje is a clean install, so prolly legit?
[06:02] <Bashing-om> what_now: Yeah .. seems I now have homework to do to see what has changed from using /etc/X11/Xorg.conf/ Let's say for now that the graphic's drivers are properly installed .. and return to the ACPI issue .
[06:03] <what_now> Bashing-om, makes sense to me
[06:04] <Bashing-om> what_now: show us : " sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows " .
[06:04] <what_now> BRB again, I did an nvidia purge, then reinstall 390 specifically to see if I get mu reboot back
[06:08] <what_now> Bashing-om, not sure what fluke I did, as the reboot after purge and install failed
[06:09] <Bashing-om> what_now: exact commands that you used ?
[06:09] <what_now> sudo apt-get purge nvidia* 
[06:10] <what_now> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers
[06:10] <what_now> sudo apt update
[06:10] <what_now> sudo apt install nvidia-390
[06:11] <Bashing-om> what_now: Adding the repo is a one time thing .. best see now if there are not 2 entries . ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[06:12] <what_now> Bashing-om, I believe I have it 2x now :(
[06:12] <what_now> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rzjbv73n5G/
[06:15] <what_now> in the package manager GUI, Other drivers Nvidia 390 is selected, Nvidia 396 is available as well as the Nouveau
[06:15] <what_now> No prorietary drivers are in use
[06:16] <what_now> sudo lshw -C display shows nvidia and the intel
[06:17] <Bashing-om> what_now: Looks OK .. try again like so . ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt install nvidia-390 ' reboot to see the effect .
[06:17] <Bashing-om> what_now: 390 is what nvidia recommends :)
[06:17] <what_now> Doing now
[06:20] <what_now> what is the difference from your command vs my command (2 separate)
[06:20] <what_now> BRB
[06:24] <what_now> Bashing-om, Still worse shutdown then when I started, freezes at the desktop. Before this, I was freezing rigght at the end, in text it would say something like shutdown complete. Only the once did it work correctly, not sure what we did to get that to be successful :)
[06:24] <what_now> FWIW when I choose the Nvidia Server program, it doesn't start now either
[06:25] <what_now> You had mentioned to NOT use Nvidia, should I switch to the nouveau for now
[06:28] <Bashing-om> what_now: Sure can try nouveau - ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ' should suffice .
[06:29] <what_now> Bashing-om, what is the difference? Does nouveau use the Nvidia card as well?
[06:30] <Bashing-om> what_now: sure still uses the card .. just that the driver is now open source . What our people have developed to interface between the kernel and the card . 
[06:31] <what_now> Bashing-om, gotcha. SInce it did shut down properly once, w/o messing with the acpi agan that might mean??
[06:32] <Bashing-om> what_now: system is twisted up and got it right one time :)
[06:33] <what_now> HAHA exactly
[06:33] <what_now> I don't have anything really on this install. I can reinstall if you think that might help
[06:33] <what_now> Nuke these partitions and go again
[06:34] <Bashing-om> what_now: I run " configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0 " on 18.04 with no issues .
[06:34] <what_now> and Nvidia card
[06:35] <Bashing-om> what_now: GT710 .
[06:35] <what_now> Did the pruge, and in software selected nouveau, now reboot again?
[06:36] <Bashing-om> what_now: should have been fine just as I said above .. just to purge and let the system do it's thing // I do not know the result now .
[06:36] <what_now> ok, no reboot needed then
[06:37] <Bashing-om> what_now: reboot is needed for the change to take effect .
[06:37] <what_now> or you mean don't need to change selection in software center, and reboot is required 
[06:37] <what_now> HAHA
[06:37] <what_now> be right back
[06:40] <what_now> Bashing-om, Please don't hunt me down and slap me
[06:40] <what_now> please
[06:41] <what_now> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8b93QBGpkp/
[06:42] <what_now> will reboot and shut down just fine now
[06:42] <Bashing-om> what_now: ka ka .. I do feel like it ! .. patience and follow through befor running off and rebooting .
[06:42] <what_now> I beleive it was chasing the Nvidia drivers. Any way that I can now check to see that the Nvidia card is being used?
[06:44] <what_now> Bashing-om, Is there now hope for getting me cursor to move more rapidly, and adjusting the text of some applications (Burp application, which is java) is horribly slow
[06:47] <Bashing-om> what_now: what_now ' sudo apt install mesa-utils ; glxgears -info ' .
[06:48] <what_now> Bashing-om, gears work
[06:48] <Bashing-om> what_now: As to performance . I have ubuntu 18.04 and xubuntu 18.04 installed .. xubuntu is much faster .
[06:49] <what_now> 300 frames in 60 fps
[06:49] <Bashing-om> what_now: I beat ya on x " 302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.205 FPS" .
[06:50] <what_now> HEHEHE
[06:50] <Bashing-om> what_now: I am running old hardware and a lower end card :)
[06:51] <what_now> on xubuntu for those #'s
[06:51] <Bashing-om> what_now: yepper .. I am mot married to gnome .
[06:52] <what_now> Before this system I had been using KDE
[06:52] <what_now> It seems that there's more support on the ubuntu channel for of course ubuntu vs the other flavors
[06:52] <what_now> other flavor channels
[06:52] <Bashing-om> what_now: KDE was my intro to 'buntu :)
[06:53] <what_now> My very first was 1996 Redhat
[06:53] <what_now> that lasted all of  months
[06:53] <what_now> all of six months
[06:54] <what_now> got tired of having to compile own kernel in the hopes that a device MIGHT work
[06:55] <what_now> Bashing-om, Again I really appreciate all your help and patience. Where should I look to work on getting my mouse speed up, and fix that apps like Burp Suite are too small to use
[06:56] <what_now> Wich I had stuck with it back then though . . 
[06:56] <what_now> would have learned soooooo much
[06:58] <Bashing-om> what_now: All I can suggest is to look at the settings in the apps .
[06:58] <what_now> OK
[06:59] <Bashing-om> what_now: Mu linux intro was slackware (severs_ and red hat . I went to KDE when the need for file servers no longer existed .
[07:01] <Bashing-om> what_now: what shows ' sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows ' ?
[07:01] <what_now> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VpMQ8mCKmk/
[07:03] <Bashing-om> what_now: something did not go tight wuth the script .. should have " Windows 2013 " .
[07:03] <Bashing-om> right*
[07:04] <what_now> it does
[07:04] <what_now> you mean windows 2015?
[07:05] <Bashing-om> what_now: yeah 2015 - i missed it ..// earlier in what ypi pisted for the command line .. was not in it !
[07:05] <Bashing-om> you posted*
[07:06] <what_now> I also pisted it
[07:08] <Bashing-om> what_now: what are we passing to the kernel ' cat /etc/default/grub ' ?
[07:09] <what_now> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VXzM7TG8zd/
[07:12] <what_now> Bashing-om, why "acpi_osi=!"
[07:14] <what_now> nevermind, found it ! = enable all, not disable all
[07:14] <what_now> rather !! = disable all and ! = enable all, sheesh
[07:16] <Bashing-om> what_now: Yep .. let's try adding the 2015 // change \"acpi_osi=\" to \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\" . Make sure you leave those 2 sets of quotes .
[07:18] <what_now> Here is what my line looks like, it has double " at the end:
[07:18] <what_now> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\""
[07:18] <what_now> I merely inserted Windows 2015 between = and \
[07:18] <what_now> that was existing
[07:20] <what_now> Original = GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=\""
[07:20] <what_now> Save and reboot it?
[07:21] <Bashing-om> what_now: 'sudo update-grub' after the save ! .. then yes reboot and let's see if there is a positive change .
[07:22] <what_now> Here goes
[07:23] <what_now> Bashing-om, Dand, cursor moves quicker
[07:24] <Bashing-om> what_now: shut down now working as expected too ?
[07:25] <what_now> Yes, that happened with the driver switch
[07:25] <what_now> Appears that the windows 15 was there after all? What if I gave an invalid value as input? 
[07:25] <what_now> Windows 2015.
[07:26] <what_now> FFS
[07:26] <Bashing-om> what_now: Well .. in good shape .. use the system and see how it now performs.. huh ?
[07:26] <what_now> Windows 2015 WAS listed
[07:26] <what_now> Bashing-om, from previous output look at line 12, I am BLIND
[07:27] <what_now> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VpMQ8mCKmk/
[07:27] <Bashing-om> what_now: confirmed line 12 " Windows 2015 " .
[07:28] <what_now> sorry for not seeing that earlier either
[07:28] <what_now> What part of the world are you in?
[07:29] <Bashing-om> what_now: Arkansas - USA .
[07:29] <what_now> Vancouver WA here
[07:30] <Bashing-om> what_now: Oly beer !
[07:31] <what_now> Bashing-om, Ha, yes. friend of mine still has a pool cue from the brewery store
[07:33] <Bashing-om> what_now: Good times up there ..long time past :D
[07:33] <what_now> We finally had a mostly sunny day this year today
[07:34] <what_now> I'm going to hit the hay. Thank you so much! Have a great morning
[07:35] <Bashing-om> what_now: That was the downer for me .. them way too mamy rainy yukkie days for my sunshine spirit .
[07:36] <Bashing-om> what_now: 3 hours past my bed time . if ya content with what ya have  .. we end this session .. and go to bed :)
[07:36] <what_now> Bashing-om, I hear you. I wasn't raised here, but lived here long enough to be tired of the gloom. Once son graduates, plan on heading to a sunnier place
[07:36] <what_now> I am indeed. I shall pass this info on when I can
[07:36] <what_now> night!
[07:37] <Bashing-om> what_now: had an opportunity to return to the Seattle switch center .. nope .. passed that one by .
[15:13] <guardian> hello
[15:14] <guardian> how is it going with the final freeze? can someone remind me how I can have a sense of what causes users trouble?
[15:18] <tomreyn> the release notes will list what doesn't work well, yet. there is probably a draft of those by now
[16:15] <LoneShadow> Hi, can someone help me understand how the cloud image is using 4.11.0-rc4+ kernel version in 18.04?
[16:55] <guardian> tomreyn: do you know where such a draft would be?
[17:22] <flocculant> guardian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes
[17:31] <guardian> thanks!
[23:44] <tsimonq2> Help test the 18.04 RCs! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004438.html