[03:14] <SlidingHorn> Bashing-om: party pooper :P  (kidding)
[03:16] <Bashing-om> SlidingHorn: Again ?? .. what have I done this time that dims the party light ?
[03:17] <SlidingHorn> Teasing about the open source driver comment (I try to keep FLOSS whenever I can, so I in most senses agree)
[03:28] <Bashing-om> SlidingHorn: I take it that the folks that write the upgrade guide know .. revert all to default .. and hit the button :)
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> morning Kharma
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> morning LtWorf
[05:15] <Kharma> Hey MightyNoob
[05:15] <MightyNoob> hey Kharma, I'm checking out the link you pasted!
[05:15] <Kharma> It was a great help for me! I love the command line tutorial! Starts out basic but give it time
[05:17] <Kharma> MightyNoob: Which IRC program do you use? I use Irssi which is a command-line client. There is also WeeChat but I have tried both and prefur Irssi
[05:17] <Kharma> Oh I see you use Kiwi, try Irssi if you get a chance. Highly customizable
[05:18] <MightyNoob> Kharma I use a web interface one, Kiwi :)
[05:18] <MightyNoob> I just setup my Ubuntu haven't dabbled with it all that much to be honest, I installed it like an hour ago, but im slowly settings things up
[05:18] <Kharma> I use Kiwi when I am on ChromeOS. I duel-boot ChormeOS and Ubuntu.
[05:18] <MightyNoob> my everyday tools, saving commands, playing with interface, tweaking it etc :)
[05:19] <MightyNoob> ah nice! Im running my Ubuntu on a VM on an iMac and it runs much smoother than I expected to be honest
[05:19] <Kharma> Oh wow. You're quick. Which Ubuntu version are you using?
[05:19] <MightyNoob> it's pretty snappy for a VM!
[05:19] <MightyNoob> 16.04 LTS version
[05:20] <MightyNoob> how about you? which version are you running?
[05:21] <Kharma> I'm still on 16.04 LTS I'm waiting for the updater in a few days to update to 18.04
[05:22] <MightyNoob> ah yeah! I heard it's gonna be out soon :)  let's see what new features it brings to the table, Im loving my experience with it so far! how long have you been using/running Ubuntu Kharma?
[05:25] <Kharma> About 2 months now MightyNoob, I am still so noob to it though.  Linux is like a foriegn language. For past 7 years all I used was Android, no PC. I saved up for months and got my Chromebook in February, about a month later I researched how to use things not native to ChromeOS. Discovered a few ways of running Linux on it, and found duel-booting to be my best option.
[05:26] <Kharma> Runs very smoothly
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Kharma: for lts to lts upgrade we advice to wait till june .1
[05:28] <MightyNoob> Kharma nice nice! yeap! Linux is a definitely a decent skill to have, it also instills deeper understanding of OSs/ecosystems and then everything else starts making much better sense :)
[05:36] <Kharma> MightyNoob:  https://github.com/denysdovhan/bash-handbook another refeence for bash. Pretty good too.
[05:37] <Kharma> MightyNoob:  Yes, I've learned so much I didn't know. I've been using computers/internet for 15 years but on Windows, which taught me nothing lol
[05:38] <Kharma> lotuspsychje:  June 1 will be when the autoupdater comes out? With version 18.04.01?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Kharma: correct, as this is the LTS 'safe way of upgrading
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Kharma: aka: more bugs sorted out, safer for the mass users
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Kharma: but for more advanced users, you can upgrade now already and help/experience too
[05:41] <MightyNoob> Kharma yeah agree with you! :)  I switched from Windows to Mac OS and then got bored with it and didn't like the restrictions it imposes, so I installed Ubuntu to use as a primary OS and learning ground :)
[05:45] <MightyNoob> running it on a VM has this great advantage of creating "snapshots" in case something goes wrong you can kind of revert back to the old changes, its sort of like a backup but a bit more instant and quicker to go back to
[05:45] <MightyNoob> I pretty much take a snapshot before doing anything major, when it goes horribly wrong I just revert back to the most recent snapshot, duh! :)
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> got to run guys, sunny day and party
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> have a nice day all
[06:12] <ducasse> good morning, everyone
[06:47] <Kharma> Anybody use MUTT?
[06:54] <ducasse> yes, a little
[06:55] <Kharma> Does it work out of the box for things like Gmail?
[06:57] <ducasse> you need to make a config file
[06:58] <Kharma> Do I need to install an SMTP server to use my domain email addresses? Email with Linux is a little confussing for me.
[07:00] <guiverc> hey folks - have a look at #ubuntu - unless i'm wrong; standford is maybe trolling, 17.10 isn't supported, go back to 12 or 14  - or i'm just having an off day
[07:01] <ducasse> he also told someone the best distro for beginners is gentoo...
[07:02] <ducasse> Kharma: does it have a mail server already?
[07:06] <guiverc> i was busy elsewhere so only saw bits - i missed the gentoo
[07:08] <Kharma> It is a MUA and an MRA.. so I don't think I can send mail with it..from what I gather.. ducasse
[07:08] <ducasse> guiverc: good morning, btw :) all good today?
[07:09] <Kharma> without installing aditional software*
[07:09] <ducasse> Kharma: it needs a mail server
[07:09] <guiverc> thanks ducasse - good morning to you.  very good thanks, you?
[07:09] <ducasse> early yet, but seems good so far :)
[07:10] <guiverc> mra?  mail transfer, user agent - mra?  (motorcycle riders assoc is what that means to me)
[07:10] <Kharma> Yikes.. so I would need to run a mail server on my local machine? any advice for something lightweight?
[07:10] <Kharma> Mail Retrieval Agent
[07:11] <Kharma> And I assume I would set up my domain email mx records to point to the mail server and configure mutt to use it...
[07:12] <ducasse> Kharma: no, you don't want to run your own mail server. find a company that will host it for you, there are many.
[07:12] <Kharma> Ahh good.
[11:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:05] <daftykins> good morn \o
[11:05] <daftykins> how's the connection working out?
[11:06] <BluesKaj> hey daftykins , it's working great so far, no problems
[11:07] <daftykins> feeling the need to open a few streaming videos at once to impress yourself? :D
[11:08] <BluesKaj> nope, haven't bothered with that ...don't see thew point :-)
[11:09] <daftykins> ah well i could furnish you with a nice video at sunset here on the islands - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pypYaEjlY9g
[11:17] <BluesKaj> nice
[11:18] <daftykins> wrong coast, but still nice colours :>
[11:34] <BluesKaj> which coast is it?
[11:36] <daftykins> east :)
[11:38] <BluesKaj> heh, that explains why no sun :-)
[12:38] <pragmaticenigma> oh no daftykins that video must've killed blues' connection :-(
[12:41] <oerheks> uh oh
[12:41] <oerheks> !tell daftykins | go paint your house, lad
[13:08]  * daftykins whistles
[13:08] <daftykins> it's ok i'm out there, i've just done prep, about to crack the paint tins open :)
[18:35] <Kharma> When using the cp command, leaving off the trailing slash of the source will create the source directory in the destination's directory? Or will it just copy the source files into the destination?
[18:44] <leftyfb> Kharma: that's VERY easy thing to test for
[18:49] <daftykins> sounds like support to me
[18:56] <pragmaticenigma> support? google search sounds more effective
[19:31] <Kharma> This channel seems so busy, you can say that but not answer a simple question I guess? Why idle in an IRC room if talking is such a chore! Any #ubuntu* room seems such full of veteran snobs and it's sad really considering there are so many people using Linux for the first time lately.
[19:32] <daftykins> Kharma: read the topic, use the correct channels.
[19:33] <daftykins> Kharma: i'm not a veteran at all, i just know how to read topics - now straighten your underwear out and grow up