[00:00] <leftyfb> unicodepepper: log out
[00:01] <USERNAME00> unicodepepper, sudo systemctl restart display-manager
[00:01] <leftyfb> or just log out
[00:03] <unicodepepper> Restarting the display manager logged me out. I'll go change my defaults now. Thanks!
[00:03] <USERNAME00> np.
[00:08] <Simonious_> more or less got the thing I was working on working, it isn't perfect, but I guess it's okay. https://ghostbin.com/paste/3e9x4
[00:10] <ltomi> leftyfb: I came back due to something i've found... What do you thing about this?...
[00:10] <ltomi> http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126185/en-us
[00:11] <ltomi> It's an already released nvidia driver, not the latest, but the issue could remain since then
[00:11] <ltomi> "Added an nvidia.ko kernel module parameter, NVreg_EnableBacklightHandler, which can be used to enable experimental handling of laptop backlight brightness through /sys/class/backlight/. This handler overrides the ACPI-based one provided by the video.ko kernel module."
[00:11] <ltomi> Could this be related to my brightness issue?
[00:12] <ltomi> GNOME not being able to detect brightness control from nvidia driver?
[00:12] <USERNAME00> I made a nifty bash script for listening to the bbc, all you have to do is install mpg321 (or the player of your choice" chmod +x bbclocal. and your done.
[00:13] <USERNAME00> https://pastebin.co/eQdVfCyn
[00:13] <USERNAME00> https://pastebin.com/eQdVfCyn
[00:13] <ltomi> "pastebin.co uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www.parkingcrew.com"
[00:14] <USERNAME00> Sorry. .com
[00:26] <solidfox> hello! I am on kubuntu 17.10 I think
[00:27] <solidfox> well. let me check. I want to know which is the best way in i3wm to increase and decrease the backlight brightness
[00:29] <solidfox> yes it is kubuntu 17.10 on i3
[00:29] <solidfox> screen is pretty bright rn :/ hurting my eyes a little.
[00:30] <solidfox> well not hurting but
[00:30] <solidfox> shutting up now.
[00:30] <ltomi> Do you also have problems with brightness?
[00:30] <SlidingHorn> solidfox: in your ~/.config/i3/config file:  bindsym <key> exec xbacklight -<inc/dec> <%>   ex: bindsym XF86MonBrightnessUp exec xbacklight -inc 10  will increase 10% when I use my laptops brighen screen button
[00:30] <solidfox> SlidingHorn: thanks! presumably I should install xbacklight then right?
[00:30] <SlidingHorn> solidfox: if it's not there by default
[00:32] <solidfox> SlidingHorn: ok. I'm going to reboot. brb
[00:32] <SlidingHorn> solidfox: you don't have to
[00:32] <ltomi> ^
[00:32] <SlidingHorn> just use your mod key + shift + r
[00:37] <solidfox> its not adjusting the brightness
[00:38] <solidfox> I checked the keycodes using that interactive command
[00:38] <solidfox> volume and trackpad toggle work
[00:39] <solidfox> ah when I try to run xbacklight I get No outputs have backlight property
[00:39] <solidfox> I wonder if kubuntu doesn't use xbacklight
[00:45] <jmgb4> Anybody know why in /sys/kernel/immou_groups/ there is nothing?
[00:46] <solidfox> I used redshift for now.
[00:54] <cap> cant use keyboard and mouse to login in tty or the usual login, it happened after installing wacom drivers and when i restarted the pc. im using another pc now.
[00:54] <cap> im using 16.04
[00:55] <jm_> gday
[00:55] <jm_> where is the log files gui in ubuntu 17.10?
[00:55] <ltomi> /var/log ?
[00:55] <jmgb4> Anybody good with the ubuntu kernel? I need a little help here trying to figure out iommu.
[00:55] <ltomi> ah, the GUI program to read logs?
[00:55] <jm_> log file gui
[00:55] <jm_> yup
[00:56] <jm_> it used to be in ubuntu
[00:56] <jm_> cant seem to find it now
[00:56] <ltomi> the gui is "gnome-logs"
[01:01] <jm_> ta!
[01:31] <jmgb4> pcie passthrough.. anybody?
[01:54] <jm_> unetbootin alternatives, anybody?
[01:55] <stephen101> rufus but its windows
[01:57] <xamithan> LinuxLiveusb is still a round
[01:58] <dulajdilshan> hey
[01:58] <dulajdilshan> I need help
[01:58] <dulajdilshan> how to start a private msg chat witha a  nickname
[01:58] <guiverc> !ask dulajdilshan
[01:58] <dulajdilshan> ?
[01:58] <jm_> im in a ubuntu chat room
[01:58] <xamithan>  /query  ?
[01:58] <jm_> cool option rufus :P
[01:58] <Bashing-om> !ask | dulajdilshan
[01:59] <guiverc> dulajdilshan,  this is a Ubuntu support room, not a freechat support room
[01:59] <dulajdilshan> ok thanks
[02:00] <guiverc> thanks Bashing-om
[02:03] <Bashing-om> guiverc: :) Friday, just looking for something to happen .
[02:03] <guiverc> :)  -- saturday & nearly lunch time here  (can't wait!!)
[02:06] <rud0lf> hello.. i want to run command as root before even user logs into system.. where could i place it? /etc/rc.local doesn't work
[02:10] <xamithan> You can enable rc.local with systemd
[02:12] <xamithan> service name rc-local.service
[03:01] <what_now> hi all. I am currently running 17.10, and would like to upgrade to 18.04 (to hopefully resolve some video issues). After I apt update then apt upgrade a few times I get the following error:
[03:01] <what_now> The following packages have been kept back:
[03:01] <what_now>   nvidia-384
[03:01] <what_now> how may I remedy this to do the upgrade?
[03:03] <what_now> My issues, I have a Dell XPS 15, I am unable to get the machine to shut down, and in order to get decent icons and other resoltions on my 4k screen I have to use scaling, but some applications don't accept this, and are still too tiny to read
[03:03] <what_now> Is this the best forum for help on the upgrade etc?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> what_now: Good call to try 18.04. What results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' ?
[03:07] <dingir_> whats new on 18.04
[03:07] <what_now> Bashing-om, Similar response
[03:08] <what_now> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DWJX8nDRb8/
[03:08] <Bashing-om> what_now: Let's see the output in a pastebin . See what the cause is .
[03:08] <what_now> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DWJX8nDRb8/
[03:09] <Bashing-om> !18.04 | dingir_
[03:11] <Bashing-om> what_now: nvidia driver . show ' sudo lshw -C display ' . See here what nvidia recommends for the driver .
[03:13] <what_now> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XJmkTWpRkW/
[03:14] <Bashing-om> what_now: However, as you are contemplating release upgrade to 18.04 .. best practice is to revert the driver to open source .
[03:14] <what_now> Bashing-om, ok
[03:15] <what_now> Bashing-om, and then after upgrade, I can attempt the Nvidia?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> what_now: "display UNCLAIMED" the driver is broken. So with the abpve advisemmnt, what do you want to do ?
[03:18] <what_now> Bashing-om, not sure honestly, I installed Ubuntu 17.10 on this machine XPS15 as dual boot, with so many display issues, I didn't work on fixing them, but stuck with Windoze for work items. I am hoping that I can do the upgrade and finally rectify issues
[03:18] <what_now> either via open source or nvidia.
[03:18] <what_now> I don't recall why the open source failed, but I know Nvidia worked better
[03:19] <SlidingHorn> what_now: what is the "work" that's keeping you on windows?
[03:19] <what_now> I do know in the current state, the machine won't shut off w/o pressing / holding the power button.
[03:19] <what_now> Bashing-om, the work is at this point with Ubuntu EVERYTHING, as I can't get the graphics to show what I need in a decent resolution, afterr that that only thing would be using visio
[03:20] <what_now> for a client
[03:21] <Bashing-om> what_now: Good for thought : https://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2018/04/a-month-with-dell-xps-13-9370/ that 18.04 fices a lot of issues .
[03:21] <Bashing-om> fixes*
[03:22] <what_now> Bashing-om, OH, that would be so nice!! it appears to me my issue is the 4K screen on this 15" model, My hope has been that 18.04 presents a fox
[03:23] <what_now> I'll be back
[03:36] <bodhi64_> hi
[03:36] <bodhi64_> this reminds me of aol
[03:47] <hololeap> how can i get nfs to automatically start during boot?
[03:47] <guiverc> hololeap, on clients - add mount lines to /etc/fstab
[03:48] <hololeap> sorry i meant server... do i run `systemctl enable nfs-server`?
[03:48] <guiverc> (using ,auto) as option (i'm not sure if its default - i use it or noauto always)
[03:50] <hololeap> actually, i think it was another problem, sorry to bother
[03:55] <GuyWade> What reading is recommended to begin to understand linux/gnu commands?
[03:55] <GuyWade> I installed xubuntu and am getting at the moment with google and copy/pasting into terminal
[03:57] <Bashing-om> !rute | GuyWade
[04:02] <Rachet> hi all
[04:03] <what_now> Bashing-om, I upgraded w/o removing Nvidia drivers, now what do I want to install instead?
[04:04] <what_now> To get my Nvidia card to work as well as the built-in Intel
[04:05] <Rachet> I am now a %75 linux user but need to use windows to root my s5 mobile so have to use odin and windows for that-to my knowledge-will running windows 10 on virtual machine from my Ubuntu machine jeopordise security of my ubuntu at all (not planning to install updates for windows as its just to run one program and is inside virtual box)
[04:05] <Bashing-om> what_now: As you are now on bionic .. we have support in #ubuntu+1 .
[04:06] <what_now> Bashing-om, Nice :)
[04:06] <Bashing-om> what_now: I am there also :)
[04:08] <pragmaticenigma> Rachet, properly setup virtual machines have low risk to the host operating system (the main computer). Good computing practices should keep everything on the up-and-up
[04:10] <Rachet> could you elabourate or link to article blog page re good computing practises please
[04:14] <Rachet> do you mean relative to setup of vm settings or browsing and install choices/behaviour?
[04:21] <Rachet> throw me a bone <pragmaticenigma> that was a very vaugue reply open to enterpretation(wide open)
[04:21] <Rachet> give me an example of a bad practise
[04:25] <pragmaticenigma> Rachet, A virtual machine isn't 100% garuenteed to prevent the guest os from interacting with the host os. Avoid downloading software from unverifiable sources is the main thing. Also, turning off features of the VM that aren't needed. If it doesn't need access to shared folders to the host OS, turn it off. things like that
[04:59] <MightyNoob> Hey there! hope you're all doing well! I wonder if noob questions are accepted/allowed in this channel for peeps just getting started w/ Ubuntu?
[05:00] <guiverc> MightyNoob, yep.  just ask away & if someone available knows the answer they'll respond.  please try and use a single line to ask your question, and be patient (people do other thiings)
[05:01] <Kharma> I see reference to "Ubuntu Membership" every once and awhile. Does one have to be a developer to become a member?
[05:01] <MightyNoob> guiverc, gotcha! thanks for the heads up :)
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> !member | Kharma
[05:02] <Kharma> Thank you
[05:03] <MightyNoob> So, Im just getting started with w Ubuntu and taking my first steps to learn the ropes, I'm trying to get a hang of using terminal for pretty much everything, Im kind of learning how to use the APT, but the question I've is... let's say I wanna install a package/software without GUI package manager, how would I know what my package is named in repo
[05:03] <MightyNoob>  so I can install with command line? in other words, is there a place where I can look up the package names so i can install them with apt-get ? thanks :)
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> MightyNoob: you can search packages on your ubuntu version with: apt-cache search keyword
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> MightyNoob: after you found what you need, you can: sudo apt install vlc rar preload
[05:04] <Kharma> MightyNoob: You can install aptitude for a comand line package manager of apt
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !manual | MightyNoob and welcome to the ubuntu community
[05:06] <Kharma> MightyNoob:  I am on a mission to replace many of my everyday GUI programs with command-line options instead. I already have quite a few, feel free to message me if you want some suggestions :)
[05:07] <MightyNoob> otuspsychje that worked! appreciate it! :)  although I thought the install command was more like apt-get install package_name, is that incorrect?
[05:07] <Kharma> apt is a replacement of apt-get.. if something says use apt-get you can just use apt
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> MightyNoob: 16.04 and higher changed that a bit and sudo apt install is enough, also progress bar was added
[05:08] <MightyNoob> ubottu thank you and I've just pulled up that PDF and it's pretty darn extensive! i liked that! thanks for the link, much appreciated :)
[05:08] <MightyNoob> Kharma Me Too!! I'm on a mission to get decent at command line so Im trying to get everything done through command line :)
[05:10] <Kharma> MightyNoob: That's great! I'm glad I'm not crazy and there is another person who appreciates command-line. I am total command-line noob too. We need to get together you and I lol
[05:10] <MightyNoob> lotuspsychje ah! that's the version I'm running, Linux can get pretty confusing though, hehe I just learned there are 4 primary repos and 2 of them are officially maintained by Canonical! although this whole "package" idea of Linux is a bit confusing, from what I can tell Linux/Ubuntu referees its software/apps/programs are "packages", is this clos
[05:10] <MightyNoob> e to correct assessment?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> MightyNoob: yeah packages
[05:13] <MightyNoob> Kharma oh yeah! I think that's the whole beauty of Linux honestly, being able get stuff done in a terminal is some boss level shit :)  it's just much faster and effective I think, yeah for sure mate, Im trying to learn as much as I can about Linux :)  btw, Ubuntu's official docs are pretty decent too, I found this for APT commands and it's pretty s
[05:13] <MightyNoob> traight forward https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[05:13] <Kharma> This is a great resource as well MightyNoob  and anyone else new to Linux https://linuxjourney.com/
[05:13] <MightyNoob> hehe let me check that out :)
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> MightyNoob Kharma for other discussions try #ubuntu-discuss keep this channel free for support only please
[05:14] <MightyNoob> lotuspsychje gotcha :)
[05:14] <Kharma> Sorry. I'm already in there.
[05:15] <MightyNoob> I just hopped in there!
[05:17] <mpeg> wow!!
[05:19] <avraw> Hi anyone here ?
[05:19] <avraw> Need a small help
[05:19] <mpeg> spell it
[05:20] <avraw> Hi mpeg so I am using ubuntu 18.04 final beta on my inspiron 5370
[05:20] <avraw> but when I do lsusb I can't seem to find my fingerprint reader
[05:20] <avraw> do you know where could I get drivers for this
[05:21] <avraw> unfortunately my laptop came pre installed with windows 10
[05:21] <avraw> and they provide support for linux
[05:21] <avraw> *dont provide
[05:21] <avraw> so no help there
[05:23] <mpeg> i dont use that personally. sorry i cant help
[05:24] <avraw> no worries
[05:24] <MightyNoob> It looks like I was able to locate Chromium when using the apt-cache but not the Chrome itself, is there a reason for that? perhaps Chrome is not available in repos and must be directly downloaded from the actual Chrome's download page?
[05:26] <SlidingHorn> avraw: as far as I know it's not something that's provided out of the box, but you can take a look at the fingerprint-gui PPA (which, again, is not technically supported) https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/ (see also /msg ubottu ppa)
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> MightyNoob: we use chromium-browser on ubuntu as alternative
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> MightyNoob: unless you have a specific reason to use chrome instead
[05:28] <Kharma> MightyNoob: https://www.google.ca/chrome/ download the .deb file
[05:28] <Kharma> Chromium is basically the same though, yo can sign in like Chrome and everything MightyNoob
[05:29] <Kharma> Same extensions etc
[05:29] <MightyNoob> Kharma aha have already done that, I was just more like wondering why the package wasn't available on the repos :-/
[05:30] <Kharma> I wondered that too.. Not everything will be in a package manager. Maintainers have to create the package and upload them... something like that.
[05:31] <Kharma> Also, you may need to add different repos etc MightyNoob
[05:31] <avraw> sliding horn I already tried that but without the hardware being detected ther is nothing that I can do further
[05:33] <MightyNoob> Kharma aha! turns out there are 4 official repos that are supported by Ubuntu, if you want anything else that's not available through repos it must be directly downloaded from the websites directly OR by adding more repos in resources.txt file :-/
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> !partner | MightyNoob or this way
[05:34] <MightyNoob> ah~ good boy ubottu! thanks
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> MightyNoob: just dont play with proposed ok :p
[05:35] <MightyNoob> lol
[05:36] <RtMF> 1/wg spr
[05:36] <RtMF> op[s
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> RtMF: can we help you?
[05:54] <marine> did some one use kirin ubuntu ?
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> !kylin | marine
[05:59] <marine> yes, it is kylin. i want to change environment to kylin, so i need obtain some experience from kylin users.
[06:00] <marine> some advantage or some weakness about kylin distribution.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> marine: start here please: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu%20Kylin
[06:02] <spanner> screwed
[06:03] <marine> lotuspsychje: thanks a lot.
[06:04] <marine> i want to replacement visio ( microsoft office toolkit ) by some ubuntu tools.
[06:05] <marine> the dia and starUML, it is hard to use.
[06:05] <themajor> When will ubuntu 18.04 comue otu?
[06:05] <themajor> out*
[06:05] <themajor> Official release, not the beta one
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !bionic | themajor
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> themajor: 26 april
[06:06] <marine> could you meet some easy to use tools just like visio in linux or ubuntu ?
[06:06] <themajor> Whoa..
[06:06] <themajor> Thats like 5 days
[06:06] <themajor> Damn
[06:06] <themajor> !bionic
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> marine: see also #ubuntukylin-devel
[06:10] <marine> lotuspsychje: thanks again.
[06:32] <sky_> hellow web.skype.com is not working in firefox any help ?error is when sign in just webpage refresh without login again and again
[06:39] <sky_> whats email address for skype support
[06:39] <sky_> hellow web.skype.com is not working in firefox any help ?error is when sign in just webpage refresh without login again and again
[06:41] <b5509cd> hey is there any better distro for first time linux users? I don't really like the direction of Ubuntu, I see on my VPS that they're now advertising cloud business services on the welcome text when I log in
[06:43] <ducasse> b5509cd: if you want suggestions other than ubuntu, this is the wrong place to ask
[06:43] <ducasse> (it's also offtopic)
[06:45] <stanford_AI> b5509cd, yes, the best distro for beginners is gentoo
[06:50] <bobdobbs> Not sure where to ask this question... I'm using Ubuntu 17.10. I just got a new monitor. On the new monitor fonts in my browser look rubbish
[06:51] <bobdobbs> I'm using a single x display shared across two monitors. If I move the browser across to the other old monitor, the fonts look fine.
[06:51] <bobdobbs> I don't know if this is a an OS thing, a video card thing or a monitor thing
[06:53] <stanford_AI> bobdobbs, 17.10 isn't supported yet
[06:53] <ducasse> yes it is
[06:54] <ericrajuin> is the new monitor high DPI ?
[06:54] <bobdobbs> checking...
[06:55] <guiverc> stanford_AI, bobdobbs 17.10 (2017.oct) release is supported, 18.04 is the ver that comes out next week
[06:55] <bobdobbs> guiverc: I'll upgrade as soon as I can
[06:55] <stanford_AI> bobdobbs, never use experimental versions
[06:55] <stanford_AI> bobdobbs, although I'd say ALL ubuntu versions are quite experimental
[06:56] <bobdobbs> stanford_AI: yeah, I upgrade from 14.04 accidently. I thought I was moving to 16.04. But I messed something up. For the most part it's working though
[06:57] <stanford_AI> bobdobbs, wow so dumb lol
[06:57] <bobdobbs> it was a silly mistake, sure
[06:57] <guiverc> bobdobbs, if you're using 17.10 - its fine.  you shouldn't upgrade to 18.04 until after release
[06:58] <stanford_AI> bobdobbs, I recommend you go back to 12 or 14
[06:58] <bobdobbs> ericrajuin: is DPI the same as resolution?
[06:59] <bobdobbs> stanford_AI: nah, too risky. I don't thnk I need to downgrade
[06:59] <bobdobbs> ericrajuin: if so, google tells me that this monitor's specs include "1920 x 1080 DPI"
[07:00] <ericrajuin> bobobobs: actually it shouldn't matter anyway.
[07:01] <ericrajuin> bobdobbs: have you try pressing the "auto" button on your new monitor(if it has one) ?
[07:01] <bobdobbs> does it make a difference which cable I'm using? The monitor has an HDMI and a VGA input. I'm using the HDMI cable
[07:01] <bobdobbs> ericrajuin: I'll look for that button
[07:02] <guiverc> bobdobbs, as for fonts and varying monitors.  if they have different pitches (dpi) fonts can look different between monitors.  dpi is dots per inch, resolution looks at whole screen, so a 13' laptop can have a huge dpi and higher resolution than 19' monitor yet 19' easier to read
[07:03] <ericrajuin> bobdobbs: or adjusting the 'pahse' and 'clock' settings in the new monitor. Pressing the 'auto button should set it automatically
[07:05] <guiverc> bobdobbs, yes cable can make a difference.  better cables can be worth it (depends on a number of factors), but for most connections you won't notice a differnce. dvi & hdmi are usually higher res than vga, dvi often higher than hdmi (except for latest rev of hdmi; but unless using 8k you won't notice)
[07:10] <Ina-ba> Does anyone here use Genymotion?
[07:11] <stanford_AI> Ubuntu 18 is gonna be great. Like 16 but even more full of bugs
[07:14] <bobdobbs> ericrajuin: I found a settings screen for the monitor within nvidia-settings. Looks like the resolution is set to auto.
[07:20] <ericrajuin> bobdobbs: type "xrandr" in terminal, it shows what resolution your monitors currently using. The lines marked with a "*"
[07:22] <bobdobbs> ericrajuin: this is the output: https://hastebin.com/defejomeji.css
[07:23] <bobdobbs> ericrajuin: so it looks like the resolution described on line 4 is the resolution being deployed
[07:25] <jt> hi
[07:28] <guiverc> jt, howdy.  this is a ubuntu support channel, if you have a question best to just ask it (ideally a single line and be patient as people are usually doing things & check here occasionally) - we're mostly not big on small talk :)
[07:29] <ericrajuin> bobdobbs: that pastebin link doesn't work
[07:30] <bobdobbs> https://hastebin.com/nuwokiqeke.css
[07:34] <operator-error> the link is misspelled "hastebin"
[07:35] <operator-error> oh, wait.  no it's not :)
[07:36] <bobdobbs> ericrajuin: I think I fixed the issue. I found a link to the Toms Hardware forum that suggest adjusting the 'sharpness' level on the monitor itself.
[07:37] <bobdobbs> I did that and the fonts look quiet a bit better
[07:37] <ericrajuin> cool
[07:38] <bobdobbs> thing is,the contrast between the fonts and their backgrounds in the browser doesn't looks as clear. But I'm not sure... maybe it's just my eyes
[07:38] <nutzso> hi all im having trouble hooking up and accessing usb from oracle virtualmachine (Ubuntu is host machine) have tried adding my username to virtualmachine users list and installing the addon extras pack rebooting...now im at the point that i can see usb listings when i go to settings usb green plus but after i add i cant find them any where in the vm os
[07:40] <jt> guiverc,thank you!i finally found the organiztion.i used to be unable to solve my problems on Ubuntu anywhere else.
[07:43] <ericrajuin> maybe try play with the clock and phase settings in the monitor a bit. Typically for lcd monitors.
[07:43] <egil> Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity. I have installed XMind but have trouble with file associations. Right clicking on a .xmind file > "Open with" says .xmind file is "Zip archive (application/zip)". I can set Ubuntu to open these .xmind files in XMind software, but then Ubuntu also tries to open .zip files with Xmind (!)....
[07:44] <bobdobbs> ericrajuin: heh. I'm not even sure if this is an lcd monitor. maybe I should check
[08:01] <yourname> hmm
[08:05] <misternomer> sup yall need help with vm usb cant get it working please help me
[08:06] <misternomer> have tried adding myself to usergroup virtualboxmachines adding the addon required and rebooting both os host and the vm os
[08:06] <misternomer> what else should i do i am running 16.04 Ubuntu
[08:06] <misternomer> please help me
[08:06] <bazhang> misternomer, did you mean usb passthrough
[08:06] <misternomer> what does that mean
[08:06] <misternomer> i want to access a usb
[08:07] <bazhang> misternomer, you said usb issue
[08:07] <misternomer> either on just the vm or on bother
[08:07] <misternomer> or on the host machine either will do
[08:08] <misternomer> (eg sharing it)
[08:09] <bazhang> misternomer, please state your issue with full details all one line, be patient, if someone knows they will assist
[08:09] <misternomer>  hi all im having trouble hooking up and accessing usb from oracle virtualmachine (Ubuntu is host machine) have tried adding my username to virtualmachine users list and installing the addon extras pack rebooting...now im at the point that i can see usb listings when i go to settings usb green plus but after i add i cant find them any where in the vm os
[08:18] <misternomer> why wont my usb work (ubuntu 16.04 host) (vm win 10home)
[08:18] <Kharma> Sounds like it is not mounted perhaps.
[08:21] <misternomer> https://imgur.com/a/0Vl3LKi
[08:21] <misternomer> i have done what i think i need to do to mount it any suggetions?
[08:22] <misternomer> also added myself to usergroup virtuaboxusers and installed addon pack
 Im counting on you please help ma
 farts in the breeze hoping for glen 20
[08:26] <bazhang> misternomer, patience please, no need for that
[08:31]  * misternomer waives fist in the air as he receives bad kharma infinitely deserted and destitute all hope vanished from his existant as he has to waste more time with windows
[08:32]  * bobdobbs steals misternomer's windows box
[08:33]  * misternomer pleads take it and never return with the cursed box
[08:33]  * bobdobbs flees, taking accursed box
[08:33] <misternomer> lmao
[08:33]  * misternomer loves it 
[08:34] <bazhang> misternomer, lets stop that and stay topical please
[08:35] <misternomer> easy for you to say your not running a windows vm
[08:35] <misternomer> without help from your brotherin
[08:35] <bazhang> misternomer, patience, take the offtopic chatter elsewhere
 can ya help me further please
[08:39] <misternomer> or anyone for that matter
[08:42] <msanchezl35> kmmmmmkmk
[08:42] <msanchezl35> klllklkkkkkkkkkllkkllkkklklkll
[08:42] <msanchezl35> pkp+
[08:42] <msanchezl35> fuck
[08:42] <msanchezl35> rata
[09:06] <johnson> wow
[09:09] <violinist> hi
[09:13] <violinist> can any one tell me how to make ultracopier the default copier on kde neon please ?
[09:17] <saurabhs_> violinist: dont think you can change the default copier, check this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40492606/change-default-system-file-copier-in-linux#40493312
[09:22] <nescius> did anyone successfully installed ubuntu 17.10.1 from default desktop 64 bit iso image?
[09:22] <nescius> I am recieving CHS: Error 8001 reading sector 2860068... no matter what medium is used (usb sticks, HDDs connected via usb 3, or sata) the iso sha1 is as expected, i did not bother with other checksums, I believe this release came already prescratched
[09:27] <nescius> i would rather get information about the issue than stare at lowres symbols of keyboard and circled human...
[09:28] <guiverc> nescius, yep.  did you check your download before writing to media  (ie. md5sum or sha...)
[09:28] <nescius> guiverc: i wrote that, yes
[09:28] <guiverc> sorry you mentioned sha1 i now see
[09:29] <guiverc> what device was the error reading sector on?  if hdd/sdd I'd run testdisk
[09:31] <nescius> i used usb flash disk, and two separate hdds, mediums would not be the issue
[09:32] <nescius> i asked whether anyone actually installed the 17.10.1 from scratch because I believe that the iso image is 💩
[09:32] <guiverc> is it the install-to media that had the error though?
[09:32] <nescius> no, the boot initialisation screen with keyboard and cycled man
[09:34] <Butterfly_> i kinda doubt there's something seriously wrong with the iso
[09:35] <guiverc> i believe i used it without issue; i'd have formatted using try (& gparted) then only used install 'something else' -- but 17.10.1 was awhile ago...
[09:35] <nescius> Butterfly_: have you installed the system from the iso? i would love to be proven wrong.. i am a bit out of ideas
[09:36] <nescius> guiverc: thanks, i will try something else then
[09:36] <Butterfly_> nescius : i haven't used ubuntu in a while honestly, but i kinda doubt that ubuntu devs would bring out a faulty ISO
[09:37] <Butterfly_> Error 8001 reading sector 2860068
[09:37] <nescius> Butterfly_: no, thats not how it works, i work as a tester, devs do mistakes often.
[09:37] <Butterfly_> sure you verified the ISO nescius ?
[09:38] <nescius> doublesure as i wrote before.
[09:38] <nescius> i have not verified the disk where I wrote the iso to.
[09:38] <Butterfly_> nescius : do you get that error while installing to different disks as well ?
[09:39] <nescius> i am recieving same erorr and sector acros other medias
[09:39] <Butterfly_> different media you install from? or different media you install to ?
[09:39] <nescius> Butterfly_: as I wrote, i did not get to the step where actuall installation starts.
[09:39] <Butterfly_> oh
[09:39] <nescius> nevermind
[09:39] <Butterfly_> guess i read the lastlog a bit too quickly :)
[09:40] <nescius> my kids are hungry, see you :)
[09:40] <Butterfly_> nescius : https://askubuntu.com/questions/92631/installation-problem-bootlogo
[09:40] <boba> Hi, I recently upgraded my Ubuntu to 16.04. However, now my laptop fan seems to run at higher speed and the laptop seems to overheat even though the CPU usage is around 3%. Any experience with similar issues?
[09:40] <Butterfly_> not sure if that helps you nescius , but maybe worth a try ?
[09:41] <Butterfly_> nvm
[09:41]  * Butterfly_ grabs a coffee, need to wake up a bit more
[09:43] <Sadegh> Hello
[09:43] <guiverc> boba, sorry I can't help with laptops except hardware - check airvents aren't blocked, or vacumn them clean...
[09:43] <Sadegh> I have a problem who can help me?
[09:44] <Sadegh> in ubuntu setting
[09:44] <guiverc> Sadegh, if you have a Ubuntu problem, please just ask it & if someone knows the answer they'll reply. please all in one line & be patient
[09:45] <JimBuntu> !ask | Sadegh
[09:45] <Sadegh> Ok . I trying to install firefox but i cant
[09:45] <Butterfly_> !ask test
[09:45] <boba> guiverc: I do not have such problems on Windows 7. Hence, I do not think the airvents are the problem.
[09:45] <Butterfly_> !ask | test
[09:45] <Butterfly_> sorry
[09:45] <Butterfly_> kinda strange that it needs a |
[09:46] <guiverc> Butterfly_, helps to seperate partial.message.for.user & the command I think...
[09:46] <JimBuntu> Butterfly_,  You can use a pipe to have the bot talk to them in public, or a greater than to have it PM them
[09:46] <JimBuntu> !party > Butterfly_
[09:46] <guiverc> Sadegh, what's the issue?   I assume you've `sudo apt install firefox` - what version of Ubuntu?
[09:46] <Butterfly_> JimBuntu : but a simple channel message... why wouldn't that just be !party JimBuntu
[09:47] <Butterfly_> i don't see the reason for |
[09:47] <JimBuntu> boba, sure sounds odd. Sounds like some of yorur sensors and fan control may not be supported out of the box
[09:48] <JimBuntu> Butterfly_, better to ask whoever wrote the bot, perhaps. Maybe it's because this is a linux channel and we love pipes
[09:48] <guiverc> :) @ JimBuntu - why it also knows >
[09:49] <saurabhs_> JimBuntu: doesn't | posts msg in public chat and > sends a pm?
[09:49] <JimBuntu> Sadegh, What version of Ubuntu and can you pastebin the command and output you are using to try to install FireFox?
[09:49] <JimBuntu> saurabhs_, yes, isn't that what I said?
[09:49] <boba> JimBuntu: The laptop is pretty decent. It is odd that the sensors are not supported.
[09:49] <Butterfly_> JimBuntu : i had a bot that was active in 600+ channels, and yes, pipes can be great, but it's not exactly the most newbie friendly way, it's also not exactly intuitive, as there's hardly any bots that use pipes for simple standard in channel respond messages
[09:50] <JimBuntu> boba, Well, support is based on what the devs have seen/recognized and that it doesn't stray far from previous devices. With the fans running faster, almost makes me think it's running in performance mode rather than ondemand. In regards to CPU speed
[09:51] <guiverc> boba, the sensors depend on components used, and whether or no the [chip] makers provided specs for the chipsets, or like intel & some makes wrote the code to enable support for linux themselves ... some cheap makes don't care
[09:51] <Butterfly_> still a great bot though, it has some great commands that make giving support and keeping channel under control a whole lot easier... and that's the last i'll say about it, cause i'm a bit off-topic :)
[09:51] <JimBuntu> Butterfly_, I understand your concern. Respectfully, I don't want newbies using the bot. I also have no admin status over the bot... so, there is that. I do however love pipes and redirects ( > ), so I have had no issue with how the bot operates.
[09:53] <Butterfly_> JimBuntu : as long as newbies don't abuse the bot, i have no issue with newbies actually using bot features, they might be able to help with keeping the channel under control, or to redirect people to other channels, ... this gives them a feeling of accomplishment and being part of the team, and they'll more likely stick around to try and help others... it can boost the amount of people that are actually
[09:53] <Butterfly_> trying to help people... we don't need experts only to give support, even a newbie might already be able to help another newbie as they know just a tiny bit more :)
[09:54] <boba> JimBuntu: guiverc I have intel cpu and a pretty professional laptop. I doubt that the problem is because of missing specifications or no support for linux. As far as I remember I did not have this problem on Ubuntu 14.04.
[09:57] <JimBuntu> Butterfly_, I agree with the possibility. I don't consider anyone a newbie that can figure out how the bot works... they are simply an expert-in-training
[09:58] <JimBuntu> boba, then you may have discovered a bug. Please post the model/etc.
[09:58] <Butterfly_> JimBuntu : exactly my thought as well :)
[10:00] <JimBuntu> Butterfly_, Here is a cool story. Recently, there was a noob, who had a power issue... not only did they figure out how to file a bug report, they asked questions, learned how to download and build the kernel, how to bisect commits and eventually found the exact commit that was causing them issues... never having built anything from source before, let alone used git/etc. This took a couple weeks, but +1 all day for them!
[10:02] <Butterfly_> JimBuntu : i love such stories :) sometimes newbies surprise me completely, and a little encouragement can go a long way :)
[10:03] <mancman3> A little understanding goes miles
[10:06] <JimBuntu> Butterfly_, Yeah, at first the user was a total PITA, as they didn't understand the generally accepted rules for IRC either... may have been their very first use of IRC, I don't remember... but now they know. Still learning how NOT to insult kernel devs in public, but hey, can't expect them to learn everything in a couple weeks. I am very proud of them!
[10:07] <boba> JimBuntu: I have ThinkPad W540.
[10:08] <GoneFishin> has anyone flashed a rom with odin onto s5 via linux or even successfully with wine
[10:08] <GoneFishin> or rooted
[10:08] <GoneFishin> from linux
[10:08] <Butterfly_> JimBuntu : lots of people never ever used irc, especially people under 27 years old or something, and even if they used chatrooms, they probably have no experience with an irc support channel... sometimes all it takes is a little education for them to understand how irc works
[10:09] <Butterfly_> GoneFishin : flashing roms through wine... i'll never even try that, i refuse
[10:09] <guiverc> boba, have a look at https://askubuntu.com/questions/780173/how-to-solve-laptop-gpu-overheating-problem-in-ubuntu16-04 - maybe it'll have some clues
[10:09] <guiverc> sorry ignore last boba
[10:10] <GoneFishin> can linux do it another way
[10:10] <boba> guiverc: thats for GPU overheating
[10:11] <JimBuntu> GoneFishin, Linux has ADB and Fastboot, yes. The issue is that not many people from those forums write their scripts to run on linux.
[10:14] <JimBuntu> boba, have you installed (or checked for) the lm-sensors and fancontrol packages?
[10:16] <guiverc> boba, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile/new-w541-heat-problems/td-p/2090405  -- some discussion & mention of programs to control (windoze & linux [no mention of type of linux] .. https://itsfoss.com/reduce-overheating-laptops-linux/ is rather generic
[10:17] <boba> JimBuntu: lm-sensors is istanlled but not sure what should I do with it. fancontrol is not installed. should I install it?
[10:17] <JimBuntu> boba, Yes, please install it. Lemme find a related page with how you can use them to help troubleshoot
[10:18] <JimBuntu> Here is one, even has some thinkpad related info - https://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[10:21] <JimBuntu> boba, at this point, I won't be much help with your ThinkPad W540 seeming to overheat even though the fans seem to be running faster and with ~3% CPU use since upgrading to 16.04, despite this not being an issue in Windows 7.... as I have never ran into a similar issue and am not fluent in all the way to troubleshoot this.
[10:22] <JimBuntu> I have restated your issue, so others can see all relevant info on a single line :-)
[10:23] <JimBuntu> Perhaps there was another fan not being used that will now be controlled after installing the fan control package
[10:25] <boba> JimBuntu: thanks a lot. I am afraid to make big configuration changes to how the sensors are controlled because I have no experience with this. Regarding the temperature of the laptop, it is currently 69 degrees with min=68 and max=82 and fan runs at 2931 RPM
[10:26] <JimBuntu> 69 C ?
[10:26] <JimBuntu> nvm
[10:27] <boba> JimBuntu: I think it is celsius
[10:27] <JimBuntu> Def Celsius now that I finished reading your post
[10:28] <boba> JimBuntu: I got that info from the Psensor temperature monitor
[10:28] <JimBuntu> boba, keep checking it, and see if it starts rising too much again
[10:28] <Papamatti> Hello, I need help for my broadcom 4318 wlan chipset: wlan stopped working
[10:30] <boba> JimBuntu: are these temperatures and fan speed alarming? I judge it based on the noise it makes and since it is louder than on windows I was suspecting that it overheats.
[10:31] <boba> JimBuntu: As far as I know the temperature should be around 50 degrees. Core 0 is at 60 degrees, Core 1 at 55, core 2 at 52 and core 3 at 53 degrees
[10:31] <JimBuntu> The fanspeed may be a bit fast, the temp seems really low though. Better for your CPU that it stays cool... not so good for your fan if it's running faster though. I would rather replace a fan than a CPU... the times you can even replace a CPU
[10:33] <Skaface82> it may not have control over the fan speed, might only be switching it on or off?
[10:34] <bumbar> how can i resize sda1 to give it unallocated space? https://i.imgur.com/AkxBdfu.png
[10:34] <boba> JimBuntu: Skaface82 it seems to run constantly at around 2900 RPM
[10:35] <boba> JimBuntu: Skaface82 very rarely it slows down to to a minimum of 2357 RPM.
[10:36] <usrshv> Hi! The "not asked on login" option in the user settings is safe enough - to not do tweak system security settings about external zone?
[10:38] <boba> JimBuntu: Skaface82 now it is at 2370 RPM.
[10:41] <egil> Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity. I have installed XMind but have trouble with file associations. Right clicking on a .xmind file > "Open with" says .xmind file is "Zip archive (application/zip)". I can set Ubuntu to open these .xmind files in XMind software, but then Ubuntu also tries to open .zip files with Xmind (!)....
[10:44] <Sven_vB> is there some spatial audio effect for PulseAudio to make music appear to play in front of me instead of in my head (wearing headphones)?
[10:47] <usrshv> egil do you tried just change assotiations of .zip?
[10:49] <Sven_vB> egil, afaik Ubuntu uses the MIME database to guess the file type. did I understand correctly that you want ZIP files be handled as something else if they have a special filename extension? then you could try configuring a rule for MIME to do so.
[10:49] <egil> usrshv, thanks. If i change assoc on the zip, then archive manager tries to open .xmind files.....
[10:49] <puttesfnask> hi guys.. is there an old version of ubuntu that support via c3 cpu without cmov
[10:51] <egil> Sven_vB, I want zip files to be opened the regular way (achive manager). But I would like .xmind files to be opened in Xmind. Problem is that Ubunt seems to "think" that .xmind files are zip archives.
[10:51] <Sven_vB> egil, chances are, they are indeed ZIP files, just with an exotic name. :)
[10:52] <Sven_vB> puttesfnask, alternatively you could try compiling a recent kernel for that old CPU instruction set.
[10:53] <puttesfnask> Sven_vB: is it hard to do?
[10:54] <Sven_vB> puttesfnask, dunno
[10:54] <egil> Sven_vB, https://pasteboard.co/HhD2LgT.png
[10:54] <egil> usrshv, https://pasteboard.co/HhD2LgT.png
[10:55] <guiverc> puttesfnask, i don't know, but searching online points to 10.04 (EOL) & 11.x (EOL) with a mention of lubuntu 12.04 (LTS is EOL, ESM isn't) --- i haven't compiled a kernel in years (wasn't hard, just long)
[10:56] <Sven_vB> egil, there are lots of programs who use ZIP files as a container for their data structures. by default, MIME guesses by file content, not by file name.
[10:58] <coggg> hey all im running ubuntu 16.04 and having trouble adding a usb on my vm running win10 any help would be appreciated
[10:59] <usrshv> egil Wikipedia: The .xmind file format implementing XMind Workbooks consists of a ZIP  compressed archive containing an XML document for contents, an XML  document for styles, a .png image file for thumbnails, and some  directories for attachments. The file format is open and based on some  principles of OpenDocument.
[10:59] <egil> Sven_vB, Thanks. That would explain it. I guess I need to add a new mime type for xmind then. Seems a bit unclear if I need to just edit mime.types or need to create an xml file. Difficult...
[10:59] <usrshv> egil do you tried extract them, then open?
[11:00] <Sven_vB> egil, this thread could have some overlap with your problem: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/205649/
[11:00] <Sircle> Hi
[11:01] <Sircle> I do not want to download any file but I do want to hit a file.php on the internet. How can I use wget to do this?
[11:01] <Sven_vB> coggg, what kind of USB do you wanna add? which VM software do you use?
[11:03] <Sven_vB> coggg, also, standard questions: what attempts have you tried so far, what effects did you expect, what effects did you observe instead?
[11:04] <egil> usrshv, I can open the files in Xmind (and renaming it to zip reveals they are very similar to ODF files), the problem is that I can not get Ubuntu to open .xmind files by double clicking them. I think Sven_vB leads me in right direction. xmind file type is not in my mime database, so Ubuntu treats them as zip files.
[11:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:05] <tomreyn> Sircle: curl -sI
[11:06] <cap> i cant login to tty, mouse en keyboard not working after installing wacom drivers and did a reboot. the only input ihave is the other pentab i use which i use to login in guess account, cant do anything with a guess account. no on-screen keyboard available at login screen.
[11:08] <Sven_vB> cap, does it mean you have a classic keyboard and classic mouse connected but moving/typing them have no effect?
[11:08]  * jpk[m] sent a long message: jpk[m]_2018-04-21_11:08:44.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/wuDFULJFRbgRkUWudZQaGDsT>
[11:08] <Sven_vB> cap, what wacom drivers did you install exactly?
[11:08] <Sircle> tomreyn,  can't do with wget
[11:08] <Sircle> ?
[11:09] <cap> yes, its not working. during boot it will disable after hardware detection, before the logo screen the keyboard will disable. so no chance to login to tty
[11:09] <coggg> ive solved the issue i had selected the wrong settings for the mounting
[11:09] <tomreyn> Sircle: wget --spider -q
[11:10] <Sven_vB> jpk[m]'s message is about Ubuntu 16.04 an Nvidia GTX 280 graphics card and chromium-browser
[11:10] <cap> @sven installed the xserver-xorg-input-wacom if i remembered correctly
[11:10] <egil> Sven_vB, thanks for helping. Will try to edit mime database.
[11:10] <Sven_vB> cap, do mouse and keyboard keep working if you disconnect the graphics tablets before boot?
[11:10] <Sircle> tomreyn,  wget url -O /dev/null  won't work?
[11:11] <egil> usrshv, thanks for helping.
[11:11] <Sven_vB> egil, good luck!
[11:11] <tomreyn> Sircle: less effective, but also works
[11:11] <cap> wacom tablet connected or not is still d same, no keyboard en mouse.
[11:12] <tomreyn> Sircle: you'll download the full page with a GET request, then discrd its contents, whereas --spider will just send a HEAD request, not download the page.
[11:12] <Sven_vB> cap, also w/o the "other pentab"?
[11:12] <cap> yes still d same.
[11:13] <Sven_vB> cap, do you have SSH access setup yet?
[11:13] <cap> wat ssh?
[11:13] <jpk[m]> cap remote shell
[11:14] <Sven_vB> cap, remote access from another computer, so you can debug stuff and read log files on the machine that doesn't accept direct local keyboard input.
[11:14] <cap> i have other pc on d other room, hoping i can use that to connect the problem with d other pc.
[11:15] <cap> i havent setup ssh on the pc with prblem, but ihave remnina on d other.
[11:15] <adam007> hi
[11:15] <adam007> no sound in backbox
[11:15] <adam007> any body help me
[11:15] <Sven_vB> try install the openssh-server package on the computer that has the problems
[11:15] <Sven_vB> cap, ^
[11:16] <cap> @sven i cant do that. cant use keyboard to access tty
[11:16] <Sven_vB> cap, can you boot from a Ubuntu Live session USB drive?
[11:16] <cap> yes
[11:17] <Sven_vB> cap, however, before we try that, try whether you can enter recovery mode in the regular boot options
[11:18] <coggg> can anyone tell me what i can use to make a bootable windows 10 usb from ubuntu? found heaps results making one running windows or making ubunutu usb under windows but not much for running linux making win usb iso bootable
[11:18] <Sven_vB> if that fails we can still chroot into your broken system from the live session
[11:18] <jpk[m]> Could cap get to recovery (shift during boot), get to Root shell, remount,rw and purge the Wacom driver?
[11:18] <cap> ive tried that, keyboard not working
[11:18] <Sircle> tomreyn,  will --spider let the web page do full processing and will not stop until all the output is given?
[11:18] <Sven_vB> coggg, if you're lucky you can find a LiveCD ISO and use unetbootin to write it onto a USB thumb drive.
[11:19] <jpk[m]> cap - so you can't even get to grub options?
[11:19] <cap> cant use keyboard, disabled after hardware detection, just before the bootscreen.
[11:19] <tomreyn> Sircle: depending on webserver / application logic, it may behave differently on GET vs HEAD. just give it a try.
[11:19] <coggg> any other options apart from unetbootin
[11:19] <coggg> keep getting stuck
[11:19] <Sven_vB> coggg, dd can do it
[11:19] <cap> i can go to grub in a live usb stick.
[11:19] <jpk[m]> by boot screen do you mean the one with Ubuntu logo, or BIOS?
[11:19] <Sircle> tomreyn,  I definitly want GET
[11:20] <cap> just before ubuntu logo
[11:20] <Sven_vB> cap, when you say "disabled after …" does it mean you can use the keyboard before that, to enter bios and such?
[11:21] <Sven_vB> would be bad luck if by rare chance the keyboard just went dead in hardware right today.
[11:22] <cap> yes i can use the keyboard during bios or during live usb installer. but in normal boot, the keyboard dies just before the os logo @sven.
[11:22] <jpk[m]> cap - yeah, and it's weird that you can't hold shift to get into grub..
[11:22] <jpk[m]> cap - assuming you can use keyboard in bios
[11:22] <cap> do u mean the keyboard and mouse is bricked?
[11:22] <Sven_vB> cap, well if you can use it even in the live installer, you're in luck. you can just cancel the live installer, start a terminal instead, and chroot into your broken Ubuntu.
[11:23] <ducasse> !winusb | coggg
[11:23] <cap> @sven. can u help me out of it.
[11:23] <Sven_vB> there you can install SSH, reboot, then use SSH to check what's broken
[11:23] <egil> Sven_vB, Got if fixed! Followed this : https://coderwall.com/p/qjda2q/create-new-mime-type-and-assign-an-icon-to-it-in-ubuntu
[11:23] <Sven_vB> cap, out of what? how to cancel the live installer?
[11:23] <Sven_vB> egil, grats!
[11:24] <cap> i mean mean help me fix this prblem
[11:24] <Sven_vB> cap, I can at least guide you towards better access so you have a chance to analyze the problem.
[11:25] <cap> the other pc i have is ubuntu 17.10 but the one with prblem is eos loki, i know i shlould have mentioned it earlier, sory, but eos channel is notnresponding since yesterday.
[11:26] <Sven_vB> cap, I'll just pretend eos loki was some kind of ubuntu, shouldn't make a difference for the first parts of the rescue strategy.
[11:26] <Sven_vB> cap, boot into the live session, cancel the installer if it starts; open a terminal, then we'll figure out what to mount and how to chroot.
[11:26] <cap> @sven. thank u
[11:27] <cap> okay wait
[11:28] <Sven_vB> for how to chroot, others here in the channel will know better anyway. :)
[11:28] <cap> im using ubuntu17.10 live session now, gonna logout?
[11:29] <Sven_vB> nope logout doesn't sound good
[11:29] <Sven_vB> so you have an Ubuntu 17.10 live session running and see its desktop, no applications open?
[11:29] <jpk[m]> if you've booted into live (try) mode you can chroot
[11:30] <cap> yes no applications running
[11:30] <Sven_vB> ok then you need a terminal. do you see an icon for that?
[11:30] <cap> yes
[11:30] <cap> in terminal now
[11:31]  * jpk[m] sent a long message: jpk[m]_2018-04-21_11:31:18.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/xRkCgybRhOqnkkgLaZryjJVf>
[11:31] <jpk[m]> cat - then you should be able to revert the changes you made (installing drivers) however I don't know how you installed them and therefore don't know how to revert, maybe someone else can help with that
[11:32] <Sven_vB> cap, jpk[m]'s long message were commands for your terminal
[11:32] <cap> okay @jpk
[11:33] <cap> okay wait
[11:33] <Sven_vB> cap, in case you installed to another partition than sda1, or used a setup with multiple partitions, you might want to mount using the drive icons in the sidebar instead
[11:35] <cap> okay did all the commands. hmm whats next?
[11:35] <cap> copy @sven.
[11:36] <fullsickhabibule> fulysikhabibuleb
[11:36] <Sven_vB> cap, dpkg -S wacom
[11:36] <Sven_vB> cap, to verify you're in your broken system
[11:37] <Sven_vB> cap, well maybe better dpkg -S wacom | sort | less
[11:38] <fulysikhabibuleb> how do i make an iso with dd command/terminal/linux iso-do i need to do anything special other than change flag to bootable with say gedit
[11:38] <Sven_vB> cap, it should print lines each with package name, a colon, and a file; check whether you find lines with your broken wacom driver as the package name
[11:38] <cap> @sven i got too many results
[11:39] <cap> how do i know which one is broken?
[11:41] <Sven_vB> cap, actually I don't even know whether it's broken. :D rather, check for the package that you installed just before it broke. this command will give less output, just the package names: dpkg -S wacom | cut -d : -sf 1 | sort -u
[11:41] <N00B_Script_Help> Good morning, i'm a newb in linux and in scripting, could someone assist me with running a task in parralell rather than series, i do not undersdtand fork
[11:41] <Sven_vB> if you know the recently installed package name exactly, you can also ask aptitude whether it's installed
[11:42] <Sven_vB> N00B_Script_Help, what scripting language?
[11:42] <barryburton> |
[11:42] <cap> will purge do the fix?
[11:42] <Sven_vB> cap probably
[11:42] <barryburton> exit
[11:43] <N00B_Script_Help> Good morning, i'm a newb in linux and in scripting, could someone assist me with running a task in parralell rather than series, i do not undersdtand fork "for label in hypeubnt{1..10}; do linode create --location newark --imageid 3660421 --plan linode1024 --label ${label}; done"
[11:43] <cap> its the xserver-xorg-input-wacom i installed yesterday
[11:43] <pichord> Hai!
[11:43] <Sven_vB> cap, ok yeah, just try to purge it. if that works, it implies it was installed.
[11:44] <N00B_Script_Help> I tried this but it failed "for label in hypeubnt{1..10}; do "linode create --location newark --imageid 3660421 --plan linode1024 --label ${label}"; & done"
[11:44] <Sven_vB> which means your chroot had the correct system :)
[11:45] <cap> thank u! sven and jpk :)
[11:45] <Sven_vB> N00B_Script_Help, "; &" --> " & ;"
[11:45] <Sven_vB> N00B_Script_Help, also, after the done: "; wait"
[11:45] <Sven_vB> N00B_Script_Help, and you may want double quotes around your ${label}
[11:46] <fulysikhabibuleb> while we're on script how do i enter a password and a username via a script i want a scipt that changes to a dir then runs an openvpn -config command then enter my sudo password then my vpn username then my password for the vpn account i knonw about the ./binbash line then my other commands but entering root and vpn username and accout password lines after the openvpn--config line i am stuck on
[11:46] <cap> uhmm how do i exit this list?
[11:46] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, don't supply your password via script, because: don't save your password in a way easily accessible to a script.
[11:46] <cap> it just says (end)
[11:47] <Butterfly_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGf9TMehi0
[11:47] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, configure sudo to allow the command you want it to allow, w/o password.
[11:47] <Sven_vB> cap, "q"
[11:47] <fulysikhabibuleb> how so
[11:47] <N00B_Script_Help> Sven_vB, so "for label in hypeubnt{1..10}; do "linode create --location newark --imageid 3660421 --plan linode1024 --label ${label}"& ; done; wait"?
[11:48] <fulysikhabibuleb> eg sudo openvpn-config ipvanish..........
[11:48] <Sven_vB> N00B_Script_Help, I think you need a space before the "&" but I'm not sure
[11:48] <N00B_Script_Help> ok i'll try ty
[11:48] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, first, what are you trying to do? there's probably a better way than your sudo.
[11:48] <fulysikhabibuleb> that line always prompts me for a password when im running my gedit ./.sh script
[11:49] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, why would you need to run a VPN from within a gedit script?
[11:50] <cap> then after purging wacom driver i will reinstall the keyboard mouse driver, which is xserver-xorg-input-all?
[11:50] <N00B_Script_Help> Sven_vb, "./10_newark.sh: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `;'"
[11:50] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, take a big step back, explain the actual goal you tried to achieve with your script, then let's find a better strategy.
[11:50] <fulysikhabibuleb> nah i wrote a bash script so i dont have to enter my username and password or change dir and run a vpn config file to login each time
[11:50] <Sven_vB> cap, I'll check what input-all is
[11:51] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, that sounds similarly broken
[11:52] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, sounds like you want to establish VPN connections automatically on demand?
[11:52] <ducasse> fulysikhabibuleb: you can configure openvpn to read your username and password from a text file
[11:52] <fulysikhabibuleb> i was writting you a novel but yes correct
[11:52] <fulysikhabibuleb> what should i google to learn about for my purposes
[11:53] <N00B_Script_Help> Sven_vB, "for label in hypeubnt{1..10}; do "linode create --location newark --imageid 3660421 --plan linode1024 --label "${label}"" & done; wait" gets me "./10_newark.sh: line 2: linode create --location newark --imageid 3660421 --plan linode1024 --label hypeubnt6: command not found"
[11:53] <Sven_vB> cap, xserver-xorg-input-all depends on xserver-xorg-input-wacom, so it will install wacom drivers. I'd suggest don't install it yet; instead, reboot and try to setup SSH remote access.
[11:54] <Sven_vB> N00B_Script_Help, yeah. why did you quote that entire command?
[11:54] <cap> ive already purge the -input-wacom.
[11:54] <Sven_vB> cap, then let's hope your keyboard works again after reboot
[11:54] <fulysikhabibuleb> wanna be able to run vpn superfast yeah for at least a couple servers that i frequently use security isnt an issue so much
[11:54] <cap> u mean start the live usb session?
[11:55] <Sven_vB> cap, nope, reboot normally
[11:55] <cap> okay.
[11:55] <N00B_Script_Help> Sven_vB, after the do?
[11:55] <Sven_vB> N00B_Script_Help, yes. the command that wasn't found.
[11:56] <N00B_Script_Help> the command runs by it self, just i not double quote it? I'll try
[11:57] <N00B_Script_Help> Sven_vB, excellent i think it is running, anyway to produce progress or out put? or just wait?
[11:57] <fulysikhabibuleb> at pres to connect manually i need to cd to vpn then run an openvpn -config SG sin....file then enter my sudo password cuz im prompted too,then i must enter my vpn acc username(anemail) then the accounts password all from terminal-its daily and verbose so i wanted a script to make a couple of connections for which security isnt a primary concern
[11:57] <cap> @sven. no luck, even the other pentablet not working.
[11:58] <N00B_Script_Help> Sven_vb, nm when it completed i got "Completed. Booting hypeubnt2"
[11:58] <cap> i’ll do a hard reboot
[11:58] <N00B_Script_Help> Sven_vB, I think im good now, thank you so much!
[11:58] <Sven_vB> cap, if that doesn't help: would it be an easy option to reinstall Ubuntu, or would you lose lots of data or effort?
[11:59] <N00B_Script_Help> Sven_vB, I think im good now, thank you so much!
[11:59] <Sven_vB> N00B_Script_Help, godspeed!
[11:59] <cap> i would lost my files :-(
[11:59] <sveinse> What is a good/efficient way of mounting a remote directory between linuxes these days? Still nfs?
[11:59] <cap> is there a waynto mount the encrypted home folder so ican transfer it to a nackup drive?
[11:59] <Sven_vB> cap, ok. then start a live session and chroot again, try to install SSH from within there.
[12:00] <cap> okay inwill
[12:00] <ducasse> sveinse: i use nfs, works well for me
[12:00] <cap> typos using phone to chat
[12:02] <Sven_vB> cap, you'll need IRC on the other computer soon anyway ;)
[12:02] <cap> oh cool 🙂
[12:02] <Sven_vB> sveinse, I prefer sshfs
[12:03] <debikad> Is the server keep disconnecting or it is something from my side?
[12:05] <cap> @sven. did the chroot now
[12:06] <konrados> Hi. I'm trying to follow https://askubuntu.com/questions/856793/upgrade-to-the-specific-php-7-1-7-2-from-php-7-0-in-ubuntu-16-04 to install the newest version of php. And first I want to remove current version. whereis php says /usr/bin/php /usr/bin/php7.0 /usr/lib/php
[12:06] <konrados>  so I tried `sudo apt-get remove php7.*` and `sudo apt-get remove php-7.*` and nothing - it's still there and I get `0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 29 not upgraded.`
[12:06] <Sven_vB> cap, then install openssh-server
[12:06] <tomreyn> debikad: which server are you referring to?
[12:06] <Sven_vB> konrados, I don't think apt-get supports wildcards
[12:08] <konrados> Sven_vB: but first I also tried  sudo apt-get remove php7.0 as well as sudo apt-get remove php-7.0 - `E: Unable to locate package php-7.0`
[12:08] <fulysikhabibuleb> hi im trying to make connecting to my vpn into one bash script can someone help me with my script i am so noob and dont know how to make things like not have to enter my sudo passwd or account name lines please help will past what my attempt (gedit binbash script by novice)
[12:08] <konrados> Sven_vB:  how do I know how this package is named?
[12:08] <konrados> on my system?
[12:09] <Sven_vB> konrados, easiest would be to use a graphical apt-thingy (I think it was "synaptic") and use its search function.
[12:09] <konrados> Sven_vB: when I'm indeed a GUI guy I prefer to learn cli :)
[12:09] <fulysikhabibuleb> https://imgur.com/a/njShzqu
[12:09] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, what VPN software and provider do you use?
[12:10] <fulysikhabibuleb> ipvanish
[12:10] <cap> @sven. look like i got problem with the repository, failed tonfeatch problem
[12:10] <fulysikhabibuleb> linux 16.04
[12:10] <Sven_vB> konrados, I only know aptitude, with that it's aptitude search php
[12:10] <fulysikhabibuleb> i like to run from terminal so i can edit the config file options to not save details in memory
[12:11] <tomreyn> konrados: have you considered an early 18.04 upgrade? it's not supported, yet, but maybe a better option than a ppa in the long run (although i guess ondrej sury's ppa is well maintained).
[12:11] <cap> oh wait im not connected lol
[12:12] <fulysikhabibuleb> not using any vpn software as such just running openvpn and my vpn(ipvanish's config files)
[12:12] <konrados> tomreyn: no, because I want to learn how to do this to also to the upgrade as soon as php 7.1.whatever will come out :)
[12:12] <konrados> but sec... isn't that this package is simply called 'php'?
[12:12] <konrados> sec...
[12:13] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, then openvpn is your VPN software. do you use a graphical desktop environment? then you could try setting up the connection with network-manager.
[12:14] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, is there a special reason why you want to launch the VPNs from a bash script?
[12:15] <fulysikhabibuleb> im lazy and it takes a long time to type all the commands
[12:15] <fulysikhabibuleb> cd vpn
[12:15] <konrados> no it is not... geeez
[12:16] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, so how about having the VPNs "always on"?
[12:16] <fulysikhabibuleb> sudo openvpn --config Ipvanishalkjdl;fjasldj
[12:16] <fulysikhabibuleb> and then psswd
[12:16] <fulysikhabibuleb> then username
[12:16] <fulysikhabibuleb> then pwd again
[12:16] <fulysikhabibuleb> i can barely type
[12:16] <tomreyn> konrados: this will list installed packages whose package names start with "php": dpkg -l | grep '^ii  php'
[12:17] <konrados> sec
[12:17] <fulysikhabibuleb> plus i was told i could automate tedious stuff with bash scripting so this was my maiden attempt
[12:18] <fulysikhabibuleb> what else can a home user do with bashscripting im not a system admin
[12:18] <cap> @sven. i got weak wifi signal.
[12:18] <fulysikhabibuleb> but want to learn
[12:19] <oerheks> fulysikhabibuleb, there is a dedicated #bash channel on #freenode
[12:19] <fulysikhabibuleb> not alot to automate round here between testing distros burning iso to usb and updating apt
[12:19] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[12:19] <oerheks> etc
[12:19] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, I don't think VPN is a good 1st project for learning bash. so I ask again, how about having your VPN "always on"?
[12:20] <konrados> tomreyn: I... can't see it - https://fpaste.ca/1jh
[12:20] <konrados> o.O
[12:20] <konrados> or is this php-common ?
[12:20] <fulysikhabibuleb> how to do that guys am new to linux
[12:20] <tomreyn> konrados: cant see what?
[12:21] <konrados> tomreyn: the 'php' package, I see stuff like php-curl etc, but... where is 'php' itself? I think I'm missing something obvious here o.O
[12:21] <konrados> the thing which is run when I enter 'php' in terminal
[12:21] <cap> @sven. can u please show me the next thing to do, im having a slow connection with the internet cant install ssh server. i’ ll try to fix it again later.
[12:22] <tomreyn> konrados: i think that in xenail there's only a virtual package "php", depending on php7.0
[12:22] <konrados> tomreyn: then... how do I upgrade my PHP, please?
[12:23] <Sven_vB> cap, I don't see a good way to continue unless you get remote shell access. if wifi is the problem, you could try and use your other computer to download the packages onto a portable storage medium.
[12:23] <tomreyn> konrados: oh when you run php in a temrinal that's the php binary from the php7.0-cli package
[12:23] <konrados> tomreyn: then what do I do know, if I want to upgrade PHP?
[12:23] <cap> ok i will try dat
[12:23] <konrados> I'm lost
[12:23] <Sven_vB> cap, on the other hand, your remote shell will require a stable network connection between both your computers, so it may be a better solution to connect a cable network.
[12:24] <tomreyn> konrados: if you're migrating to sury's PPA i think you'll be take note of what you have installed, create a backup of your existing php package configurations, then purge all php packages, then iadd the ppa, then install php from the and all the other php packages oyu want from there, too.
[12:25] <tomreyn> "i think you'll be take note" -> "i think you'll best take note"
[12:26] <konrados> tomreyn: yes. OK, so - how do I purge all php packages? sudo `apt-get remove php*` ?
[12:26] <oerheks> 7.1/7.2 https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php?field.series_filter=xenial
[12:27] <tomreyn> konrados: almost: sudo apt --purge remove 'php*'
[12:27] <konrados> ok, sec :)
[12:28] <konrados> tomreyn: can I add --dry-run to see what it's gonna do?
[12:28] <konrados> will it work?
[12:28] <tomreyn> konrados: sure, i think it will ask you anyways, but --dry-run is fine
[12:28] <konrados> cool, thanks!
[12:29] <tomreyn> konrados: i'm not sure whether apt knows this switch (apt-get does), but it will bail out with an error otherwise
[12:30] <konrados> it seems it does, now running normally...
[12:31] <cap> @sven. i’ll try to get back, need to restart the wifi
[12:38] <n29334> @sven i got problem i the repo always failed to fetch
[12:38] <n29334> its me cap
[12:39] <tlyng> Anyone have experience running Kubernetes using juju/charms and localhost/lxd? The models are almost completely deploy, but it seem like the kubernetes installation is broken and the charm deployment is unable to complete. Kubernetes is not able to launch any pods for some reason, and the worker nodes seem to be in a "NotReady" state
[12:43] <tomreyn> n29334: when you "ping -c1 1.1.1.1", does it say "1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss" ?
[12:46] <tomreyn> tlyng: maybe try asking this in #ubuntu-server
[12:46] <tomreyn> (and try not to starty our quesiton with "anyone")
[12:47] <tlyng> perhaps, although it's on my desktop :P Anyway I've traced it more, seem like there is some permission issues (apparmor) that is causing it
[12:51] <jpk[m]> cap/n29334 the repo fail might be network issue, especially if you are chroot in the live cd still
[12:51] <jpk[m]> n29334: have you connected to network/wifi
[12:51] <jpk[m]> ?
[12:51] <n29334> @jpk the is okay now ive used another terminal.
[12:51] <jpk[m]> n29334: okay great
[12:51] <n29334> the connection i mean
[12:52] <jpk[m]> n29334: Did you manage to get your keyboard working or are you trying to install ssh?
[12:52] <n29334> trying to install ssh. keyboard did not work.
[12:53] <Sven_vB> jpk[m], thanks for taking over. I'll be afk.
[12:53] <n29334> ssh instalation failed
[12:54] <gde33> Noobing around trying to share a folder (between 2 computers on a single modem) from the lubuntu laptop pcmanfm I picked Network, the other computer name shows up here. It offers 1 folder called print$ that requires a password. Not sure what is.
[12:54] <jpk[m]> n29334: you mean openssh the server?
[12:54] <n29334> yes. failed to start openbsd securenshell server
 how about having it always on can i create a script to make the machine run vpn on boot up??
[12:55] <n29334> did a —configure -a to fix the pckage no joy
 so its always on
[12:57] <Sven_vB> fulysikhabibuleb, you could, but network-manager should be easier
[12:57] <Dbugger> hi everyone
[12:57] <Dbugger> Question: is it possible to find out what IP address I had on my LAN last wednesday?
[13:00] <Sven_vB> Dbugger, maybe your DHCP server has logfiles, or your syslog could know
[13:01] <n29334> can i use remmina instead?
[13:01] <Dbugger> where could I found those log files?
[13:03] <diego_> Hi, I am looking for a client to sync my google drive files to ubuntu, what do you recommend? At the moment I am using online accounts which gives me access to gdrive files but doesn't store them locally which is what I want.
[13:09] <s> hello hello hello
[13:12] <fulysikhabibuleb> herro
[13:22] <jpk[m]> n29334: sorry super busy atm
[13:24] <coggg> is there a terminal channel on freenode?
[13:24] <kostkon> !alis | coggg
[13:25] <kostkon> coggg, what do you mean by terminal though
[13:25] <introom> snap is slow
[13:25] <introom> any mirror i can set ?
[13:26] <coggg> just wanna ask questions re terminal commands want to know how to show progress on a dd command i plan to run
[13:26] <coggg> thanks for the alias
[13:26] <coggg> didnt know bout that
[13:31] <cogggg> what am i doin wrong with the alis command
[13:31] <EriC^^> coggg: in newer dd versions you can use dd ..... status=progress in older versions you can run 'sudo pkill -USR ^dd' from another terminal
[13:32] <EriC^^> i think it's -USR1 not -USR
[13:33] <cogggg>  /msg alis LIST terminal
[13:43] <coggg> how can i listen to podcast on linux ?
[13:44] <mancman3> coggg: https://snapcraft.io/newsboat that's 1 of many
[13:44] <guiverc> coggg, i like liferea for my rss feeds (which include podcasts; where i subscribe), but I usually wget them & listen via cmus ... ie. whatever you prefer
[13:45] <Kharma> +1 for Cmus
[13:45] <mancman3> coggg: search for Cumulonimbus-1.6.7-x86_64
[13:47] <SomeT> hi, I have an issue where I was doing sudo apt-get upgrade command, it shown me differences between a file, I am in some sort of text editor and no idea how to exit it?
[13:48] <mancman3> SomeT: type "exit"
[13:48] <mancman3> or colon && q if in vim
[13:48] <SomeT> https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HhEbA2C.png
[13:48] <SomeT> thats whats happend
[13:48] <guiverc> SomeT, I'd have to say esc then :q!  but its mostly tongue-in-cheek :)
[13:48] <SomeT> I tried escape
[13:48] <SomeT> check my image
[13:49] <SomeT> might give some more insight for a more accurate answer
[13:49] <SomeT> the command line has: :
[13:49] <BluesKaj> ctl + c
[13:49] <Kharma> lol I remember being stuck in Vim.. scariest linux moment yet.
[13:49] <guiverc> try <Q> SomeT
[13:49] <SomeT> q worked!
[13:49] <mancman3> alt f4 then lol
[13:49] <SomeT> is that the dreaded vim then?
[13:50] <mancman3> SomeT: no it is a terminal
[13:50] <guiverc> nope - its a `more` type prompt - ie. hit an key and see more...
[13:50] <mancman3> scroll to the bottom and type exit twice
[13:50] <mancman3> twice because ur root
[13:51] <guiverc> SomeT, if you'd scrolled thru all of it, it'd exited automatically...
[13:51] <SomeT> I am accessing through a telnet
[13:51] <SomeT> ssh
[13:51] <mancman3> oh so you are
[13:51] <cap> @sven @pjk no luck with ssh, problem with openbsd server. i will try to mount the encrypted home volume and transfer the contents to another drive.
[13:51] <SomeT> this channel is most helpful on irc for sure lol
[13:52] <SomeT> I want to switch my main OS to ubuntu, only thing that puts me off is gaming
[13:53] <mancman3> dual boot then
[13:53] <guiverc> SomeT, you could always play nethack - you'll be learning to use vim keys at the same time :)
[13:53] <SomeT> what is nethack?
[13:53] <SomeT> no dual boot
[13:54] <guiverc> a game sorry; really old game (70s or 80s - ie. text)
[13:54] <Sven_vB> cap, yeah backup always is a good idea.
[13:54] <SomeT> I was thinking of switching to vim as my main text editor
[13:54] <SomeT> but the thing that worries me would it just slow down my programming as  a result of having to learn how to use it?>
[13:55] <guiverc> SomeT, if you are happy with the editor you are using, stick with it.  I learnt vi because it worked on terminals that didn't have arrow keys (long long ago!) ... its efficient yes, but I'd probably not learn it if I didn't long long ago
[13:56] <SomeT> I get irritated by my mouse, and having to use different windows for different projects
[13:56] <SomeT> that was my main reason for considering vim
[14:00] <love2tickleu> #list
[14:00] <mancman3> love2tickleu: /list
[14:01] <cap> oh man. need a passphrase to mount the encrypted volume :(
[14:01] <mancman3> cap: and you've forgotten it ?
[14:01] <mancman3> oops
[14:02] <cap> @mancman i know the login password. but passhprase i dint know about  that
[14:03] <mancman3> cap: u must of set a passphrase when u set up the encrypted drive#
[14:04] <cap> i dont think i was ask about that wen i setup the encrypted volume
[14:04] <cap> i was ask about*
[14:05] <francisv> How to activate/turn on tray icons of applications in Ubuntu 17.10?  I run Dropbox, and I remember there used to be an tray icon in the left bottom corner, but not any more.
[14:06] <konrados> tomreyn: thank you very much, it worked! (Upgrading php)
[14:09] <mancman3> cap: try ur user passwd
[14:09] <mancman3> u may of set the same
[14:10] <cap> yes ive tried dat no luck
[14:12] <oerheks> cap, sure you are asked to store/write down the *securitykey* , see these screenshots https://linoxide.com/ubuntu-how-to/two-methods-to-protect-your-data-using-ubuntu-disk-encryption/
[14:12] <oerheks> it is not your user password
[14:13] <mancman3> I just thought he may of set his passwd as the key too
[14:14] <mancman3> some do
[14:26] <cap> wait guys, can i edit the xorg conf to fix the xserver-xorg-input-wacom??
[14:27] <cap> cant use keyboard en mouse after ininstalled the wacom drivers en did a reboot. cant login to tty too cuz keyboard is dead before the logo screen.
[14:28] <cap> so i mount the volume partition in live session.
[14:31] <francisv> There is no tray icon for Dropbox in my Ubuntu 17.10 installation.  From here https://askubuntu.com/questions/182567/how-to-fix-missing-dropbox-tray-icon I have to remove dropbox first, but it won't uninstall, I get the message in Terminal:
[14:31] <francisv> Package 'dropbox' is not installed, so not removed
[14:31] <francisv> However, dropbox is there, if I do 'apt show dropbox -a':
[14:32] <francisv> http://paste.debian.net/1021343/
[14:32] <francisv> From there, you can see 'Breaks: nautilus-dropbox'
[14:33] <francisv> How to uninstall dropbox (State: not a real package (virtual)
[14:33] <francisv> )
[14:33] <mancman3> sudo apt autoremove
[14:34] <francisv> mancman3: still there
[14:36] <sveinse> What is the apt settings for not getting suggested packages in the most recent ubuntu? APT::Install-Suggests "false"; does not seem to have any effect
[14:50] <nanaki> any one know a good gui vid player that will use as little battery as possible ive been using smplayer
[14:52] <mancman3> nanaki: just use totem video player ???
[14:52] <grumble> nanaki: I like "mpv". It has a GUI but it's very minimal. You might have to select a specific video output backend to profit from hardware acceleration and minimize battery usage
[14:54] <mancman3> nanaki: which ever u choose, run it a sand box so as to prevent the software accessing internet etc, to minimise battery usage. FIREJAIL is good
[14:54] <mancman3> in a*
[14:54] <mancman3> unless of course you are streaming
[14:55] <nanaki> yeh not streaming
[14:56] <nanaki> mostly looking to conserve battery life
[14:56] <mancman3> watch the film in a dark room and turn brightness down a notch
[14:56] <nanaki> right now when im just watchign vids i toggle off hyper threading and mutli cpus in bios dim screen etc
[14:56] <mancman3> and do u see a difference with battery levels
[14:56] <nanaki> running on a hp elitebook 2170p with the extended battery
[14:57] <mancman3> 4k lol
[14:57] <nanaki> but still getting just south 2.5 hours want to get more aroudn 3.5
[14:57] <nanaki> no the model is 2170p hehe
[14:57] <nanaki> oh defo see dif with bat
[14:57] <mancman3> ahhhh i just saw the 2000 and the p lol
[14:58] <nanaki> is a 4 core cpu and ht enabled so no ht and no multi core hehe
[14:58] <mancman3> plug it in ?
[14:58] <nanaki> easier said than done
[14:58] <nanaki> lit have just a light buld in my bedroom lol
[14:58] <nanaki> and basically brick walls lol
[14:59] <mancman3> are u in prison haha joking
[14:59] <nanaki> lol no
[14:59] <nanaki> very old place use to be gas lights
[14:59] <mancman3> ohh nice
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> nanaki, the program isn't going to matter when it comes to multimedia and battery life. The program is just an interface, the more minimalistic just means less for you to configure. The video playback still uses the same codecs in the processor to decode the video.
[14:59] <nanaki> running electricity to outlets would be nightmarish
[14:59] <nanaki> right
[15:00] <nanaki> right now im running i3wm and ev thing else as minimal as possible
[15:00] <nanaki> tlp all that jazz
[15:00] <pragmaticenigma> nanaki, gstreamer, mplayer, vlc... they all use the same backend codecs to decode the video. and that is where the processing power gets used.
[15:00] <nanaki> i found seperate cells for my battery im tempted to make like a 12 cell monster battery heh
[15:01] <mancman3> that sounds explosive
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> nanaki, by turning off all the multicore and hyperthreading, you're actually not saving any additional power.
[15:01] <nanaki> i have the old inerds from my worn out reg battery
[15:01] <nanaki> well some will be lost in extra cpu load
[15:02] <nanaki> on the individual core
[15:02] <pragmaticenigma> nanaki, the other cores may not be in use, they're still powered
[15:02] <nanaki> but i also have it on what amounts to passive cooling on bat only
[15:02] <nanaki> i turn off all networking etc
[15:03] <mancman3> hard off aka fn && wireless off
[15:03] <nanaki> yep
[15:03] <yourname> 311/join #groovy
[15:03] <mancman3> how long would ur battery last for normal browsing use
[15:04] <nanaki> never really tried
[15:04] <nanaki> when ever im browseign etc im plugged in
[15:05] <mancman3> I've never had a laptop, and never will. They have poor battery, poor air flow, and just down on power compared to a desktop.
[15:05] <nanaki> on this laptop so far ive tried ubuntu 16 04 win 10 wattos microwattos r 10 etc
[15:05] <nanaki> and all give very sim bat life
[15:05] <nanaki> like + - 10 mins
[15:06] <nanaki> well my old tpn 126 had 6 hours on win 10 lol
[15:06] <nanaki> and a elcheapo aspire one mini was hitting upwards of 4 to 5 lol
[15:06] <mancman3> Maybe you're getting the most of it already then, with nothing to compare it to.
[15:06] <nanaki> that tpn was a very underrated under valued machine i sold it for more than i paid for it lol
[15:07] <mancman3> lol nice
[15:07] <nanaki> yeh im startign to think so my self
[15:07] <nanaki> like i said i found the individual cells for the battery
[15:07] <nanaki> and got enough experiance to build a monster battery
[15:08] <nanaki> dont think ill have to reporgram any chip in the battery circuit to make use of them
[15:08] <nanaki> and if i cook the battery i cook it lol
[15:08] <mancman3> kool do it
[15:08] <nanaki> only like 25 bucks for all the cells
[15:08] <pragmaticenigma> nanaki, mancman3, it appears your off topic now. Please join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue your conversation.
[15:08] <nanaki> if i wire in parallel for the same voltage as the current 4 should be gold
[15:09] <nanaki> yeh im done any ways
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> thank you
[15:09] <mancman3> k
[15:09] <xfz> what is the alternative way to launch a different WM (on server install) when startx doesn't work
[15:10] <pragmaticenigma> xfz, what WM/desktop environment have you installed?
[15:10] <xfz> herbstluftwm
[15:10] <seto> gah both my main nicks already regged
[15:11] <pragmaticenigma> xfz, did you install with "apt" or did you manually install
[15:12] <xfz> with apt
[15:12] <nanaki-seto> ahh well this works :p
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> xfz, i'm not very familiar with that one, have you seen this though? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man7/herbstluftwm-tutorial.7.html
[15:14] <oerheks> pragmaticenigma +1 was about to copy that page too
[15:15] <konrados> ah, a bit cross posting, but will try any way :) - In this command - `chmod -R g+rw` I know  it changes cur dir permissions recursively, adding 'read' and 'write' permissions, but to whom? Current user? And what is this `g+`?
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> konrados, the g stands for group
[15:16] <konrados> pragmaticenigma: yeah, ok, so... it gave the rw perms to cur user as owner, and the group?
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> konrados, u = user, g = group, o = others or everyone, a = user, group and others
[15:16] <xfz> pragmaticenigma: I did. those are the steps I took
[15:17] <konrados> pragmaticenigma: so it gave rw perms *only* to a grup?
[15:17] <konrados> *group
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> konrados, g+ only changes the permissions for group. If the the current user is a member of the group, then they can access the file based on the permissions
[15:18] <oerheks> konrados, a bit cross posting.. what does the other channel say ?
[15:18] <oerheks> lolz
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> xfz, have you rebooted since installing the new WM?
[15:18] <konrados> oerheks: they have a hot discussion about systemd and it seems noone noticed my question :)
[15:19] <konrados> pragmaticenigma:  yes, and... that is all? It solved a problem, but I don't understand why. Because the group already had the rw perms... before running this command.
[15:19] <eury_> guys
[15:19] <konrados> I mean, it solved a problem I had, but if it only gave rw perms to a group, then I don't understand how it solved it o.O
[15:19] <konrados> pragmaticenigma: but ok, I'll investigate it, thanks!
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> konrados, I think you would find this article on wikipedia helpful. it explains chmod in great detail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod
[15:20] <xfz> I just rebooted pragmaticenigma
[15:20] <xfz> no change
[15:20] <konrados> pragmaticenigma: thanks again!
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> xfz, the article mention Alt+Return to activate... does that have any effect?
[15:21] <cap> @sven. @pjk i did it! :)
[15:21] <Sven_vB> cap, grats!
[15:22] <cap> Fix it. chroot at live session, den fix the internet connection, by editing the resolv.conf put google dns. and den reinstalled the xserver-xorg-input-all.
[15:22] <cap> thank u guys
[15:23] <cap> though i want to learn the openssh nextime for future troubleshooting.
[15:23] <francisv> Dropbox does not show any graphical interface in my Ubuntu 17.10.  I am trying to install it from source.  When I do './configure', I get the error 'configure: error: couldn't find pygtk'.  If I do 'pip install PyGTK' I get this error: http://paste.debian.net/1021350/
[15:23] <francisv> I do not find any pygtk packages in apt
[15:23] <francisv> how can I install pygtk in Ubuntu 17.10?
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, if you are using ubuntu 17.10, why do you keep posting to debians postbin?
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> *pastebin
[15:25] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: no special meaning using debians pastebin service
[15:25] <francisv> could you please recommend me another pastebin service?
[15:26] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, the concern is that the command pastebinit if configured by default in ubuntu to post to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[15:26] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: I was unaware of that command
[15:26] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, no worries, just wanted to make sure
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, you can't have both the dropbox package installed on your computer and the compiled copy. You will need to find a way to remove the packaged version first if you want to use the compiled one
[15:28] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: the problem is that I do not get any dropbox GUI as I have installed
[15:29] <francisv> so I am trying to compile the source to see if in that way I can get the tray icon and GUI again
[15:30] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, having both installed will create issues
[15:30] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: 'pastebinit' is very handy!  Thank you!
[15:30] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: yes, I will remove dropbox from apt
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, I did find this article, and from the reference it applies to 17.10
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, http://www.webupd8.org/2017/03/fix-dropbox-indicator-menu-not-working.html
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, the article you posted earlier was for Ubuntu 12.04 which is a very different setup than 17.10 is
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, you may also find this reddit thread helpful (it was directed me to the other link) https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/64
[15:36] <Teggun> Hiya, how long does it usually take for a point release to happen?
[15:36] <Teggun> I've read around that there won't be a prompt to update to 18.04 until the first "point release" how long does it usually take for that to happen?
[15:37] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: doing 'env XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity dropbox start -i'  did not bring back the icon.  I check the current value of XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> Teggun, commonly June/July is when the first point release occurs.
[15:40] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, that just changes an environment variable, it's not a command
[15:41] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: yes, I understand that, but that makes the command to start with that variable
[15:41] <francisv> I mean 'env XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity dropbox start -i'
[15:41] <francisv> or even 'XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity dropbox start -i'
[15:41] <pragmaticenigma> xfz, I'm sorry that I can't find anything to assist you further. If all the instructions were followed top to bottom it should be working.
[15:41] <francisv> but still no icon is shown
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, what happens if you execute "dropbox start -i" from terminal inside Gnome
[15:44] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fJzFCW6ZCy/
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, what does "dropbox status" return?
[15:46] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: 'Up to date'
[15:46] <francisv> Dropbox syncs fine.  The problem is that I have no way to configure it
[15:46] <francisv> beucase configuration is via the tray icon
[15:46] <francisv> and I do not have the tray icon
[15:46] <francisv> it does not appear
[15:47] <francisv> If I could manage to get the GUI, I would not care about the tray icon
[15:47] <francisv> or if I could find out how to configure which folders to sync and so on from terminal
[15:47] <francisv> but I have not found such information in Google.
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> francisv, seen this?: https://superuser.com/a/1297618
[15:53] <Kharma> francisv: check this https://www.dropboxwiki.com/tips-and-tricks/using-the-official-dropbox-command-line-interface-cli
[15:54] <brian_wilson1> does anyone notice a considerably slow down of the system after sleeping/hibernating and coming back up?
[15:54] <brian_wilson1> I've been having this problem for quite a while now
[15:55] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: I tried with QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE and XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP as the page you sent me, but do not work.  I think I will just use the dropbox command from the page Kharma says.  Thank you both!
[16:07] <LoneShadow> Anyone know how the linux kernel is chosen in the cloud image?
[16:08] <oerheks> after testing..
[16:08] <oerheks> after bugfixes and/or new features
[16:08] <LoneShadow> I just downloaded the 18.04 cloudimg version, after launching it from dockers, I see that the 4.15 kernel version is the dpkg listing, but uname -a shows 4.11.0-rc4+
[16:09] <LoneShadow> I don't see the corresponding 4.11 linux image in the dpkg -l
[16:09] <oerheks> oh, ask in #ubuntu+1, until release
[16:09] <pragmaticenigma> LoneShadow, 18.04 isn't support in this channel yet. Please go to #ubuntu+1 for help
[16:09] <oerheks> !bionic
[16:09] <LoneShadow> well I have the same problem in 16.04 as well :)
[16:10] <LoneShadow> I am not able to understand if grub works in these images whether 16.04 or 18.04
[16:11] <adrian_1908> hello, I'm in a hurry (unfortunately). For some reason I'm having trouble copying files to my SDCard. The file operation just gets stuck and then seems to take forever. I tried unmounting, reformatting etc. but nothing seems to help. Any suggestions?
[16:11] <pragmaticenigma> LoneShadow, grub is a boot loader. I'm not certain cloud images would have that
[16:11] <adrian_1908> This hasn't happened before with the same.
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> adrian_1908, time and patience... Files can only be copied as fast as the buffers can handle the data stream
[16:13] <LoneShadow> pragmaticenigma: , yea looks like that. The cloud image kernel seems to be some minimalist version, its missing some kernel modules which is there in the normal kernels
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> LoneShadow, If a cloud image is like any other install of Ubuntu. Have you tried running "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade"?
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> LoneShadow, cloud images are built for specific purposes and not general computing. What are you attempting to do?
[16:14] <adrian_1908> Hmm, I wonder if it's that slow. I hope so (then it would solve itself). Alas the progress dialog gives zero feedback, jumped to 1.1GB / 1.3GB in a second (fooled by caching presumably) and stuck there since.
[16:14] <LoneShadow> in 16.04, dist-upgrade failed, but I was able to do a "apt install linux-image-4.15....", but reboot always goes to the 4.11 kernel
[16:14] <Guest8282> guest8282
[16:14] <pragmaticenigma> adrian_1908, is the card a class 10 sdcard?
[16:15] <Guest8282> ubuntu mate?
[16:15] <adrian_1908> pragmaticenigma: I think slower, older (writing in slot right now)
[16:15] <adrian_1908> so maybe i'm just spoiled and it really takes that long.
[16:16] <LoneShadow> adrian_1908:  I think you should be able to df -h and see if the device is getting written
[16:16] <adrian_1908> Ok, first file just finished (dialog closed). I think that answers it. Time to copy the rest. Sorry for bothering you guys.
[16:16] <Guest8282> for updating ubuntu try sudo apt-get install upgrade and for upgrading sudo apt-get install upgrade.For sound problem try to install alsa plugin
[16:16] <LoneShadow> periodically type "df -h" to see the  progress of your copying
[16:17] <adrian_1908> ok, will do!
[16:17] <pragmaticenigma> adrian_1908, it's a buffer thing then. You'll just have to wait it out. or go and buy a newer card that's class 10.
[16:17] <Guest8282> Ctrl+alt+t ->terminal window
[16:17] <oerheks> try apt-get update
[16:18] <Guest8282> asking for password?
[16:18] <Guest8282> login and stuff like this...
[16:18] <adrian_1908> "dh -f" shows no change over time (second file being copied right now), but since the first copied fine in the end, I'll just trust that now. Thanks! :)
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> Guest8282 please ask your complete question on one line and be as specific as you can. Then wait for someone to respond directly to you.
[16:19] <Guest8282> ok
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> adrian_1908, the command is "df -h" you have the f and h transposed
[16:20] <Guest8282> shutdown -h now? for shutting down computer...
[16:20] <adrian_1908> yes, i typed the latter.
[16:20] <pragmaticenigma> adrian_1908, it also only shows when the data gets flushed to the disk. Data is flushed and the buffer waits until the disk controller indicates it's ready for the next block of data
[16:20] <Guest8282> it`s free software...
[16:21] <pragmaticenigma> Guest8282, please stop
[16:21] <Guest8282> but we must adapt to it...
[16:21] <pragmaticenigma> Guest8282, this is not a chat room... please discontinue
[16:21] <adrian_1908> pragmaticenigma: I see. Second file just finished copying, so this is clearly works now. One more and then I gotta run ;)
[16:21] <Guest8282> what else we can do,no...
[16:21] <pragmaticenigma> !ops | Guest8282
[16:22] <Guest8282> what is the problem?
[16:22] <pragmaticenigma> Guest8282,  you were asked to stop, if you do not have an Ubuntu Support question, please leave
[16:23] <Guest8282> i have ubuntu mate desktop
[16:23] <Guest8282> i don`t use windows
[16:24] <pragmaticenigma> Guest8282, PLEASE STOP! NOW!
[16:24] <Guest8282> why?
[16:24] <Guest8282> it` s the fucking technology...
[16:24] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy } Guest8282
[16:24] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy | Guest8282
[16:26] <absentabyss> hello
[16:26] <absentabyss> I'm testing irssi out
[16:27] <LoneShadow> pragmaticenigma:  Are there any other channels where they may be able to discuss on ubuntu cloud images?
[16:30] <gabboman> Hi, I just downloaded the beta because I was going to make a full pc clean. my question is, will an apt dist-upgrade "move" me to the stable release?
[16:30] <BionicMac> Can someone pint me to documentation or support for the Intel Atom x5-Z8350 Cpu UBuntu support. Official or UN-offical eithr way.
[16:30] <BionicMac> s/pint/point/
[16:30] <pragmaticenigma> LoneShadow, I'm not aware of any... weekends are little slower here for help. most of the sys admin types are here weekdays that would have some answers
[16:31] <pragmaticenigma> !bionic | gabboman
[16:32] <gabboman> Yes, the thing is the next week, would just a regular update move me to the default release?
[16:32] <gabboman> Im on the beta
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> gabboman, as was stated... discussion in #ubuntu+1 ... you need to go there for answers
[16:33] <gabboman> oh ok, sorry then
[16:33] <gabboman> the beta is pretty cool
[16:33] <luka_33> Small question, I seem to have created an erroneus device when trying to start a netctl profile
[16:34] <luka_33> Where are these located so I can delete them?  I believe it was created by doing systemctl
[16:38] <pragmaticenigma> luka_33, I think netctl config files are saved in /etc/netctl somewhere. I think if you delete the file profile and restart the service or reboot it will "forget" the device
[16:39] <LoneShadow> pragmaticenigma: Thanks, will check back during the weekdays
[16:41] <ash_guest> I have a defunct copy of ubuntu running on this laptop
[16:41] <ash_guest> I downloaded the iso and copied it to a thumb drive
[16:42] <ash_guest> when I run it, it shows a 'restore disk image' prompt
[16:42] <ash_guest> what does that end up doing? does this format? partition? etc?
[16:43] <pragmaticenigma> ash_guest, if you're install isn't working and there is nothing on the machine needed, just do a fresh install
[16:45] <ash_guest> pragmaticenigma: which would entail restarting, changing the boot order and I assume it'll prompt me for install, right?
[16:47] <gabboman> ash_guest, yes. I would sugest getting a new iso and DDing it
[16:47] <ash_guest> gabboman: DDing?
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> ash_guest, no
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> gabboman, no
[16:47] <gabboman> oh.
[16:48] <gabboman> dding: dd of the image. direct copy of the iso to the thumb drive
[16:48] <pragmaticenigma> ash_guest, Install Ubuntu from the USB disk like you are doing a clean install. Whatever that entails on your machine, I don't know
[16:48] <pragmaticenigma> gabboman, Read the whole question before jumping in
[16:48] <gabboman> sorry
[16:56] <ash_guest> I'm not sure I'm doing this right; does the normal download work from usb or do I need a 'live' version?
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> ash_guest, non of that makes any sense
[16:59] <oerheks> ash_guest> when I run it, it shows a 'restore disk image' prompt .. how did you prepare the usb?
[16:59] <Sven_vB> the program I run in my terminal and which should read one line doesn't react to pressing enter. I suspect it expectrs \r\n as line terminator. how do I send \r?
[16:59] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, what program?
[17:00] <ash_guest> oerheks: downloaded it from ubuntu.com https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute?version=16.04.4&architecture=amd64
[17:00] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, https://gist.github.com/mk-pmb/adae211e875ff11274d9b81248d033a3 when run with official .net 4.0 installed
[17:00] <ash_guest> and copied it to a thumb drive
[17:01] <oerheks> ash_guest, you need to use a tool not just copy the iso to the fat32 usb
[17:01] <oerheks> !usb
[17:02] <ash_guest> oerheks: thanks
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, that looks like a programming question, not an Ubuntu Support question. I would seek out a mono forum for help
[17:03] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, ok then let's use "head --bytes=1 | hd" instead. how would I send \r to that?
[17:04] <Sven_vB> there has to be some Ctrl+letter combo that sends it
[17:04] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, there isn't
[17:04] <Sven_vB> O_o
[17:04] <Sven_vB> ok, thanks.
[17:04] <Sven_vB> then I'll try with screen
[17:04] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, if this is for a mono project/application check out https://gitter.im/mono/mono
[17:05] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, I'd like to learn how to send control characters independent of the target program. :)
[17:05] <Sven_vB> my terminal emulator should be able to do that, imo.
[17:06] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, that's not how a terminal emulator works
[17:06] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, if the program doesn't accept an enter key press than the program being developed has a bug for not accepting the input.
[17:07] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, then I'm probably looking for another kind of program. something that runs a command in a (p)tty and can send characters to that program's stdin
[17:07] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, yeah, I'm trying to determine what the bug in wine mono is exactly.
[17:07] <blackflow> Sven_vB: try Ctrl+V Ctrl+R  for \r
[17:08] <Sven_vB> blackflow, thanks!
[17:08] <Sven_vB> blackflow, it sends dc2
[17:09] <blackflow> I suppose that's also shell dependant
[17:10] <Sven_vB> I'll try with socat
[17:10] <blackflow> or echo
[17:11] <Sven_vB> would be too easy. the bug only occurs when stdin is a TTY (and also both stdout and stderr are redirected).
[17:12] <Sven_vB> for now I'll just pipe cat into the wine program as a workaround.
[17:14] <Sven_vB> for completenes, the bug also only occurs in wine. on win7 the program works as expected.
[17:15] <Sven_vB> (I already filed a bug with wine.)
[17:16] <blackflow> Sven_vB: guess I was wrong about Ctrl-R. Tried with ^M and hexdump,   echo "<ctrl-v><ctrl-m>" | hexdump  shows the 0d0a  which is \r\n sequence
[17:17] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[17:18] <Sven_vB> C-m works in my terminal as well.
[17:19] <Sven_vB> doesn't react either. probably it's not about EOL then.
[17:25] <KRIVEDKO> Hello! I Have some question,maybe somebody  know something about it.I have installed samba server on my MINT machine for sharing files to all devices in my home.On Windows and androids i can see my server on local network,but my Ubuntu machines can,t.
[17:25] <tomreyn> !mint | KRIVEDKO
[17:26] <KRIVEDKO> Okey,funny,it's Ubuntu can't see the server...
[17:28] <pragmaticenigma> KRIVEDKO, if you know the IP address of the server, you can reach it in your file manager using the smb://{ipaddress}/sharefolder
[17:28] <pragmaticenigma> KRIVEDKO, Auto discovery doesn't always work for the built in file managers
[17:29] <leftyfb> KRIVEDKO: do you have samba/smbfs installed on your ubuntu machines?
[17:29] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb, is that required for client access with nautilus?
[17:30] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: smbfs definitely is
[17:30] <KRIVEDKO> Yes.
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb, good to know, thanks
[17:31] <leftyfb> at least in my experience ... though reading now it looks like smbfs is being deprecated at some point
[17:32] <KRIVEDKO> Just something strange happening - for test i tried to install samba on one of Ubuntu machine....everything works....okey....thanks guys,and sorry for offtopic,i think problem not with Ubuntu....hmmm...
[17:35] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb, I thought cifs was more common... but I lost track when I started to use SFTP for network shares
[17:35] <leftyfb> it is these days I guess
[17:36] <leftyfb> same here though, I don't setup samba shares on my network at home anymore
[17:36] <Sven_vB> KRIVEDKO, would it help to open a simple HTTP server instead?
[17:36] <leftyfb> but now that I'm getting my office and server closet finally built right and organized, I might look into a little NAS for backups and such
[17:37] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: HTTP is the worst possible solution for file transfers/storage/NAS
[17:37] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, well, it's how I transfer my files to/from Win7 :)
[17:38] <leftyfb> nuff said
[17:38] <KRIVEDKO> For me it's just simple way to organaize all my stuff,like books,music,backups....
[17:42] <_war10ck_> I am getting a problem in which my system continuously shows me - "Running in low graphics mode". I'm using Ubuntu 16.04
[17:43] <_war10ck_> Checked and removed the xorg.*.failsafe file from /etc/X11 but still the issue pops up
[17:43] <tmft_> samba works fine on me
[17:43] <_war10ck_> How should I go about figuring out why this is happening? I have seen that after re-installing lightdm, it boots fine. But after a few boots the issue comes up again
[17:51] <syb0rg> Can anyone help me run update-initramfs from a live USB? I am chrooted in to my root filesystem with mount --bind dev,proc,sys,usr, and running update-initramfs from within the chroot says "update-initramfs is disabled since running on read-only media"
[17:51] <syb0rg> is it trying to run on the live distro despite the chroot, or what?
[17:52] <shkar> hello
[18:08] <revmoo> how do I disable the password prompt when opening the lid of my laptop (16.04) ?
[18:10] <ioria> revmoo, have you checked  in system-settings - brightness & lock ?
[18:10] <revmoo> 'Brightness & Lock' is not an option in 16.04 under system settings
[18:10] <ioria> revmoo, i'am on 16.04 and there is the option
[18:11] <revmoo> crap sorry, I'm on 17.10
[18:11] <revmoo> there is a 'screen lock' under 'privacy' which I disabled but it has no effect
[18:12] <ioria> revmoo, should be an option in 17.10 ; but if not, try with gnome-tweak
[18:12] <ioria> revmoo, or under Power settings, maybe
[18:13] <revmoo> no on gnome-tweak, and no on power settings either
[18:13] <revmoo> surprised this isn't a setting somewhere
[18:14] <revmoo> not even any results on google, I'm guessing this isn't possible
[18:14] <ioria> revmoo, https://askubuntu.com/questions/990056/turn-off-requesting-user-password-after-suspend-17-10
[18:15] <ioria> revmoo, gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver ubuntu-lock-on-suspend 'false'
[18:15] <revmoo_> whoa idk what just happened there lol
[18:16] <revmoo_> ioria: that worked, thanks a ton
[18:16] <ioria> revmoo, it's ok
[18:25] <nexus7> Hi All. Starting from today my Xubuntu machine is freezing up. It is those kind of freezes that even Sysrq is not working (I've enabled it). It happens after 30 minutes of use (apprx). How can I investigate and find the cause. I need to watch a long video on Youtube and after a couple of minutes the system freezes.
[18:28] <trissytriq> weird issue with login screen. i want the image to change but not sure how? at present the image i want to display appears but then fades into the previous image. i was using lightdm previously, now using mate.
[18:33] <brainwash> nexus7: overheating?
[18:35] <brainwash> trissytriq: does MATE use a different login greeter?
[18:36] <nexus7> @brainwash : that's a good idea. But my laptop has never done it before, and the cpu is not in use. Everything is normal on the laptop.
[18:38] <trissytriq> brainwash: not sure. i've tried using gsettings to list schemas and org.mate.background entry says it's using the correct image. not sure where to look for lightdm
[18:38] <tgould> hi all, novice here trying to debug my macbook with 17.10 failing to detect a display being plugged into the thunderbolt port. xrandr shows only the built-in display, for example, and nothing is logged in journalctl when i unplug/replug the device. trying to echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan does result in logs showing up in journalctl, however -- all saying things like "BAR 13: failed to assign" or "no space for" and then a memory add
[18:38] <tgould> ress. could this be a thunderbolt driver problem, or something else?
[18:38] <nexus7> @brainwash , here is the output of "sensors". https://pastebin.com/Ss28AJEu
[18:38] <brainwash> tgould: maybe check the tool "lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings"
[18:39] <brainwash> trissytriq: ^
[18:39] <tgould> brainwash: thanks, looking into it
[18:39] <tgould> ah err nvm
[18:39] <brainwash> tgould: sorry, this wasn't meant for you =S
[18:40] <brainwash> nexus7: that is the output while a youtube video is playing?
[18:42] <brainwash> tgould: I guess testing with the latest linux kernel is something you should try
[18:43] <brainwash> tgould: and/or with ubuntu 18.04 (final release is next week)
[18:43] <tgould> ok, i will give that a shot
[18:45] <nexus7> @brainwash yes. the temp is between 47-51
[18:57] <brainwash> nexus7: I would test with a different web browser
[18:57] <brainwash> nexus7: also, checking the system log of the previous boot may help
[18:58] <nexus7> brainwash: Do you think that flash can be doing this?
[18:58] <brainwash> in case the system was able to log anything after the crash/freeze has occurred
[18:58] <nexus7> brainwash: Which log do you think I should be looking at?
[18:58] <brainwash> youtube does not use flash anymore, unless you force it to do so
[18:59] <nexus7> brainwash: You are right. It uses html5. So, it could be FF.
[19:00] <ioria> nexus7,  ubuntu version and  kernel in use ?
[19:00] <brainwash> nexus7: journalctl -b1
[19:01] <brainwash> for persistent logs you may have to create /var/log/journal first though
[19:01] <brainwash> mkdir -p /var/log/journal
[19:02] <brainwash> otherwise you will only get logs for the current boot
[19:13] <bodie_> 17.10 x64 server here; wondering why I don't have /snap/bin in my PATH
[19:14] <bodie_> I just set up my host with my dotfiles, so I thought maybe it's because I'm using zsh, but then I noticed it's not in the PATH when I revert to the normal bash shell
[19:17] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1637220
[19:25] <YADW1> Hello there. I'm here, quite desperate tbh, trying to make my monitor get the proper resolution of 1440x900 straight, after installing nvidia-currents for my geforce fx 5200 (it's an incredibly old build, I know). I'm on 16.04 LTS, does anyone know how to fix it?
[19:26] <YADW1> Currently everything is at 1280x1024, without even vertical black bars to adjust the ratio, so everything is stretched horizontally
[19:27] <mkal001> Hey guys,i am working on pacman clone.i have successfully created the deb package But the problem is while running it "my assets are not loaded".Also the size of deb package is much less (100 kb) then my tar.xz file (30 mb)
[19:27] <nexus7> ioria: Ubuntu 17.10 4.16.0-041600-lowlatency
[19:27] <mkal001> why deb package does not include the asset directory ?
[19:28] <ioria> new0, whay that kernel ?
[19:28] <ioria> *why
[19:29] <mkal001> jai mahakal
[19:30] <ioria> nexus7, that kernel it's not stock
[19:30] <nexus7> ioria: I had problems with my keyboard and touchpad and had to update the kernel. So, I just dowloaded it from ubuntu repos and installed it on my own.
[19:31] <nexus7> ioria: from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.16/
[19:31] <ioria> nexus7,  yeah, i know that ppa
[19:32] <nexus7> brainwash: The command "journalctl -b1" gives me logs from March 26.
[19:32] <ioria> nexus7,  but why low-latency ?
[19:34] <nexus7> ioria: is that a big problem? I downloaded everything and just ran dpkg -i *.deb Should I go with generic??
[19:35] <ioria> nexus7,  usually yes, but idk what kinds of problems you had with default kernel  ...
[19:36] <ioria> nexus7,  what video card and module is in use ?
[19:37] <nexus7> ioria: The problem with 4.13 was that pressing and holding a key on the keyboard wouldn't repeat the key. So, for example for deleting a sentence, instead of holding the backspace key, I had to press it multiple times.
[19:38] <nexus7> ioria: I'm using a Lenovo Flex 3. It has an onboard Intel graphics card.
[19:39] <ioria> nexus7,  tablet transformer ?
[19:41] <nexus7> ioria: you can bend it 360 and use it like a tablet. But I gave up on touchscreen in Linux long time ago.
[19:41] <ioria> i see
[19:42] <ioria> nexus7,  grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo
[19:43] <nexus7> ioria: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz
[19:44] <ioria> nexus7,  and freezes happen only on yt stream or what ?  (btw, i think the main issue here is your kernel)
[19:44] <nexus7> ioria: So, I have been playing the video using Opera and no freezes. So, could it be FF that causes the system to freeze beyond repair??
[19:45] <ioria> nexus7,  maybe, how it freezes ? it greys out ?
[19:45] <nexus7> ioria: The freezing has been happening only this morning. I have been using this Kernel for months now. and also have been watching hours of YT everyday.
[19:46] <Ayhomaru> Hi everyone, I am looking for a way to create a launcher with custom GDK_DPI_SCALE however this does not work via standard create launcher dialog on desktop. I just dont want to fire a terminal and type GDK_DPI_SE=1.2 firefox every time I want to launch scaled firefox for my HiDPI laptop screen.
[19:46] <ioria> nexus7,  ok, no big deal then
[19:46] <nexus7> ioria: Here is how it freezes, the screen freezes on a frame of the video (or just whatever it is showing) and the audio keeps repeating the last half second (so it's very annoying too)
[19:47] <ioria> nexus7,  ok, but how often ?
[19:47] <nexus7> ioria: The freeze happend 4 times. everytime about 5 minutes of the video.
[19:49] <ioria> nexus7,  so what changed ?
[19:49] <ioria> nexus7,  i mean 'I have been using this Kernel for months now and also have been watching hours of YT everyday'  ....
[19:53] <nexus7> ioria: That's what is confusing me. I have not changed anything. Just using my laptop as normal. But multiple freezing is not random. How can I investigate and find the reason?
[19:54] <ioria> nexus7,  dmesg
[19:55] <ioria> nexus7,  when it freezes, open a console
[19:55] <_war10ck_> Okay, I tried a lot of things, but I am still not able to figure out why the "running in low graphics mode" is coming up. I went away a bit because I tried to check up if in anyway I could figure out the problem, but to no avail
[19:56] <nexus7> ioria: That is the problem. It freezes and I can't open a console or go to a virtual terminal. Even sysrq is not working. So, it's a deep kinda freez.
[19:56] <ioria> nexus7,  try another browser (chromium)
[19:56] <diego_> Hi, I am having problems with bluetooth audio, I connect my headphones, start playing a song, I can hear the song for about 2 seconds, then it goes completely silent, the headphones are still paired and showing up in the sound panel. I am running ubuntu 17.10. Any ideas ?
[19:58] <nexus7> ioria: I installed Opera and I played the video and it worked. Now I switched back to Firefox and will try to recreate the problem.
[20:13] <dabba> hey all, I have a dual boot laptop with windows 10 and ubuntu 18.04 on it, and after a reinstall of windows 10 bios no longer recognizes the /boot partition (sda4) as a bootable device/OS.  I tried running ubuntu live on a usb and doing BootRepair, which said it was successful but bios is still not showing the ubuntu boot option.  I suspect BootRepair fails due to the system being installed in a LUKS encrypted partition (I hadn't gone through the
[20:13] <dabba> steps to mount it when i tried boot repair).  Any tips on how I can proceed? I'd prefer to rescue the system instead of reinstall - have a bit of data i'd prefer not to lose - but can mount those partitions and backup the data if reinstall is my only option.
[20:15] <sveinse> dabba: did you attempt to reinstall grub?
[20:16] <sveinse> It could sound like windows has overwritten the MBR boot which kicks off the second stage boot in /boot. Windows like to think its alone in the world, so it does this
[20:16] <dabba> from the live usb?  The stuff I was reading online gave the impression i'd have to mount everything in the LUKS partition and then chroot to it then reinstall grub - I haven't tried that yet
[20:17] <leftyfb> !bionic | dabba
[20:18] <sveinse> leftyfb: I do think this is a generic issue rather than a 18.04 specific one thou
[20:18] <dabba> ^
[20:18] <leftyfb> sveinse: That's really irrelevant. Ubuntu 18.04 is not supported yet.
[20:19] <dabba> wow alright
[20:19] <dabba> last time i ask here
[20:19] <debkad> o_O
[20:20] <leftyfb> dabba: or you could just ask in the relevant support channel for your unreleased and unsupported version of ubuntu. #ubuntu+1
[20:20] <dabba> thanks for the help, leftyfb, truly appreciated
[20:20] <dabba> because I'm sure grub has changed sooooo much
[20:22] <dabba> next time i'll just say ubuntu so you can't flex on me, leftyfb
[20:22] <debkad> buckuping is always good, if something happen
[20:22] <leftyfb> dabba: ok, since you're just being rude now, feel free to /part
[20:22] <sveinse> In this context, I'd wager its not, its windows, so you'll need to ask them, since this is only #ubuntu
[20:22] <dabba> how was that rude?
[20:24] <dabba> i'm just saying, next time i'll leave the superfluous information out, and you'll have no reason to bot check me
[20:24] <dabba> anyways, thanks again for the help guys
[20:25] <sveinse> dabba: I'm at #ubuntu+1 if you want to continue
[20:25] <debkad> dabba: you can ask the guys in #grub channel for that specific case
[20:27] <Flannel> sveinse, dabba: it's fine to continue here.
[20:29] <dabba> I'd prefer continuing here sveinse, if you're good with that?
[20:29] <sveinse> dabba: It is very probable that the first stage bootloader haven't changes, so running up your live usb and manually running "grub-install /dev/sda" should normally be enough to restore the first stage.
[20:30] <sveinse> If not, you can, in the live usb environment, do a chroot mount of your system and then run grub-install
[20:31] <sveinse> There is some steps to this, but it is doable. It has saved me a few times when the MBR has gone bad
[20:31] <dabba> okay I am bringing up the live environment and i'll let you know the outcome of grub-install without the chroot mount
[20:32] <dabba> thanks sveinse for your time to this point :)
[20:45] <dabba> sveinse, looks like i'll have to go the chroot mount route - I get the following error:
[20:46] <dabba>  /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[20:46] <dabba> after running sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[20:46] <sveinse> dabba: right, I assume because /cow is the root for live disk
[20:48] <dabba> whats the best way to mount the stuff in my LUKS partition?
[20:49] <sveinse> dabba: Have you seen this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:50] <dabba> sveinse, yes, that is where I started troubleshooting.  I am not sure how to open up the LUKS from the live environment (i remember my passphrase) just not sure of the steps.  didn't think that article covered encrypted partitions
[20:51] <sveinse> dabba: So what is the challenge now is that grub-install needs access to the same setup as the one on your system. Where chroot comes into play, but you'll also need to mount a few system dirs, like /sys and /proc, for it to work fully.
[20:51] <sveinse> dabba: oh, encrypted.. sorry, I have no experience with that. Are you able to view and mount your drive from the livecd at all?
[20:52] <sveinse> (I suppose one should not since that would defeat the purpose of having encrypted drives) :P
[20:54] <dabba> sveinse, I get this error when I try to access the encrypted partition in the file manager: https://imgur.com/a/CfLq377
[20:55] <sveinse> dabba: no, sorry, this is beyond me
[20:55] <dabba> well, i appreciate you taking the time to try and help!
[20:56] <sveinse> dabba: youre welcome
[21:03] <tohsa> How do you set a default audio device in xubuntu? using xcfe if that matters
[21:31] <Ayhomaru>  Hi everyone, I am looking for a way to create a launcher with custom GDK_DPI_SCALE however this does not work via standard create launcher dialog on desktop. I just dont want to fire a terminal and type GDK_DPI_SE=1.2 firefox every time I want to launch scaled firefox for my HiDPI laptop screen.
[21:33] <leftyfb> Ayhomaru: create a script with GDK_DPI_SE=1.2 firefox and make a launcher that calls the script
[21:34] <Ayhomaru> ok good idea, that did not come to my mind
[21:38] <Sven_vB> Ayhomaru, you could use the "env" command
[21:38] <Sven_vB> just put "env GDK_DPI_SE=1.2 firefox" as the launcher command
[21:42] <Ayhomaru> leftyfb thanks this works like charm, will try the env too
[21:44] <Ayhomaru> Sven_vB thanks that's even easier works well!
[21:45] <Sven_vB> yw
[21:45] <Sven_vB> if you need to set lots of vars, you can also read them from a file
[21:48] <Ayhomaru> Sven_vB I don't see it in the env help, is that an X11 parameter -file ?
[21:51] <Sven_vB> Ayhomaru, should be way down in the "see also" section, I think "envfile" was it
[21:53] <Ayhomaru>  Sven_vB ok thanks, I am going to investigate it. Have good day!
[21:54] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[22:06] <atzrrar> https://askubuntu.com/a/84169
[22:06] <jhutchins> What's the curl option to output to a specific file?
[22:06] <leftyfb> jhutchins: what does man curl tell you?
[22:07] <jhutchins> Pages and pages of irrelevant crap.
[22:07] <debkad> it is the -o
[22:07] <jhutchins> That's one of the reasons I don't usually use it.
[22:07] <leftyfb> jhutchins: negative. It tells you exactly what you're looking for.
[22:07] <jhutchins> Thanks dude, you're a real help.
[22:08] <leftyfb> jhutchins: when you're in a man page, use / to search for a term
[22:08] <leftyfb> jhutchins: as in, type /   then type output   then hit / and enter again to keep searching
[22:09] <debkad> or just: curl --help
[22:09] <leftyfb> jhutchins: I don't know of a single manual that tells you only the exact thing you are looking for in your head. They typically tell you all the different ways and features of that thing. So you need to look through the manual to find what you're looking for. With a man page it's easy because there's a search feature like I showed you above
[22:10] <leftyfb> yup, that would work too. curl --help |grep output
[22:10] <jhutchins> I know of a lot of manpages that are concise and focused on how to use the program.  I know of others that attempt to explain the entire theory behind the internet.
[22:11] <jhutchins> debkad: Thanks.  I was being impatient with the search for "output".  I did eventually find it.
[22:11] <leftyfb> yeah, I too hate manuals that have the nerve to tell you in detail how to use the thing it's written for. Why can't they just read my mind and tell me the exact thing I'm looking for and nothing else?
[22:14] <Takyoji> Is there anyone I can pester about content removal from wiki.ubuntu.com?
[22:22] <Sven_vB> jhutchins, the trick is to combine searches. "man curl | grep file | grep output" -> in my man, lines 3 and 4 give the answer
[22:22] <Sven_vB> "-o, --output <file>¶       Write output to <file> instead of stdout. […]"
[22:23] <_war10ck_> jhutchins: What is the problem in reading the manual anyway. I have usually found them interesting to read(especially the system calls)
[22:25] <Anthaas_> Best pdf reader? Want one with features. Commenting/highlighting, remembering progress, and so forth
[22:26] <_war10ck_> Anthaas_: What about the document viewer? Does it not allow one to do the aforementioned? I think highlighting feature already exists
[22:27] <_war10ck_> Anthaas_: It also remembers the reading progress(all by default)
[22:27] <Anthaas_> "Document viewer?"
[22:27] <debkad> Anthaas_: may be foxit reader
[22:27] <_war10ck_> Anthaas_: evince is the command to launch it from the terminal
[22:27] <Anthaas_> If there is one prepackaged that has this, that is obviously the preference.
[22:27] <Anthaas_> Ahhh evince!
[22:27] <Anthaas_> Didn't realise, thanks.
[22:27] <Anthaas_> Ill give it a shot
[22:27] <_war10ck_> Anthaas_: you are welcome
[22:28]  * debkad didn't know that evince have the ability of commenting/highlighting
[22:31] <_war10ck_> I found out that evince has this capability. Before that, I had to run Adobe reader with wine. Now I've gone sober :p
[22:32] <_war10ck_> The best part about evince is that it also allows for reading CBR files(manga, comics and the like)
[22:32] <_war10ck_> Using unrar I guess, intalling just that allows one to get that feature
[22:33] <debkad> interesting
[22:52] <neyder> hey do you know wher can i look for help with cloud-init???
[23:04] <leftyfb> neyder: you might try #ubuntu-server
[23:09] <alex__> .
[23:13] <xubuntu21d> need help  lost all icons and can't seem to open terminal
[23:13] <xubuntu21d> on ubuntu 16.04
[23:13] <strang3quark> anyone here using ubuntu on a chinese apollo lake laptop?
[23:16] <xubuntu21d> need help  lost all icons and can't seem to open terminal on ubuntu 16.04
[23:16] <tfgbd_> Any idea why I can't enable nested KVM?
[23:16] <tfgbd_> I set it on my boot cmdline.
[23:17] <strang3quark> xubuntu21d: did you try control alt t ?
[23:17] <xubuntu21d> yes and nothing
[23:18] <strang3quark> xubuntu21d: also, you can switch to a tty, try pressing control alt f2, then press ctrl alt f1 or f7 to go back to the desktop
[23:18] <tfgbd_> But when I do  cat /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/nested it still returns N
[23:19] <xubuntu21d> also tried tried that got nothing
[23:20] <xubuntu21d> is there another way to get into terminal
[23:20] <strang3quark> xubuntu21d: thats odd, well theres another way to get into a console, you can add init=/bin/bash in the boot entry
[23:21] <strang3quark> i think you need to press e to edit the entry in the grub menu
[23:43] <zlsyx> I have 2 versions of vim. One /usr/bin/vim and the other /usr/local/Cellar/vim/8.0.1700/bin/vim how I tell the system to use the second one?
[23:48] <akem> zlsyx, Should work if you place the second path before /usr/bin in your path environment variable.
[23:49] <zlsyx> I use alias idk if it's a hacky fix though
[23:49] <oerheks> sudo update-alternatives --config editor > https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-the-default-editor-from-nano-on-ubuntu-linux/
[23:51] <dakd> I am having a nightmare installing brscan3 drivers on ubuntu
[23:51] <oerheks> or sudo update-alternatives --config vi ??
[23:51] <dakd> in my previous distro they worked
[23:52] <dakd> I have brscan3 installed but xsane doesnt detect the scanner, sane-find-scanner doesnt find a network scanner