[02:37] <SlidingHorn> welcome ErichEickmeyer :P  *tosses a beer as we wait*
[02:37]  * ErichEickmeyer takes the beer courtesy SlidingHorn and chugs it
[02:37] <ErichEickmeyer> *buuurp*
[02:38] <ErichEickmeyer> Anyhow... -offtopic is elsewhere. :)
[02:38] <SlidingHorn> (Repeating) I'm having an issue where I cannot get xfce to fully load...the panel either doesn't load at all (most often) or it shows up, and is unresponsive.  if I Ctl+alt+t on my primary screen (where the panel would be) I cannot see the terminal, but it's "there" and commands work. if I ctl+alt+t on the secondary, screen, the terminal is visible.  What can I look for to diagnose the problem here?
[02:39] <SlidingHorn> I have to clear my ~/.config/xfce  every time this happens :/
[02:44] <krytarik> 1.) Providing any version info would have been nice.  2.) When you do that, when does it start failing again?
[03:04] <SlidingHorn> krytarik: I'm going to be spending tonight trying to break it again to figure out exactly where it happens.  It's XFCE 4.12
[03:06] <krytarik> SlidingHorn: That's how it's also called in Xenial btw.
[03:10] <SlidingHorn> krytarik: cool - I'm helping to test the Studio Bionic set up, but I figured the Xubuntu crew might have some valuable input/guidance for when I find where I'm breaking it.
[03:13] <krytarik> To be clear, the "Xfce" version is always just the umbrella one - and usually doesn't tell much about the individual parts of it - hence the context of the distro version is handy.
[05:30] <marine> i deleted my kernel.
[05:30] <marine> i want to recover my xubuntu.
[05:30] <SlidingHorn> marine: reinstall it.
[05:31] <marine> if reinstall it , some data should be lost.
[05:31] <marine> because only kernel rm by apt-get remove --purge .
[05:32] <marine> i want to recover it by live usb to setup the grub relation.
[05:32] <marine> some one else met this situation, or other better ways ?
[06:34] <well_laid_lawn> marine:  if you haven't rebooted since removving the kernel you can reinstall the kernel
[06:44] <lirodon> Should an Android phone auto-mount in Thunar?
[06:47] <well_laid_lawn> lirodon:  this might explain http://www.mysolutions.it/mounting-your-mtp-androids-sd-card-on-ubuntu/
[07:49] <marine> i use live usb to launch machine.
[07:50] <marine> and use mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[07:50] <marine> and then use mount --bind /mnt/dev /dev
[07:50] <marine> use chroot
[07:51] <marine> to recover the kernel deleted by mistake.
[07:51] <marine> after all, use grub-install /sda
[07:51] <marine> and update-grub
[08:15] <well_laid_lawn> marine:  and it worked out ok for you ?
[08:19] <marine> yes, just only work, but the fglrx is not suitable for me.
[21:25] <Spass> hello, small question, I'm on 17.10, I have one unread e-mail in my Thunderbird client (52.7.0), shouldn't the Messaging Menu indicator icon be blue, indicating unread message(s)? it's normal/white still
[23:05] <xubuntu21d> need help
[23:08] <krytarik> xubuntu21d: Would you like to provide us with any details?
[23:08] <xubuntu21d> having trouble with ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[23:08] <krytarik> Well, this is #xubuntu
[23:09] <xubuntu21d> lost all icons and can't seem to open terminal.
[23:11] <xubuntu21d> and I know this is xubuntu, I am using this but my inlaws have ubuntu and I am using my pc to try and help them
[23:12] <krytarik> Ok, but there is #ubuntu too. :)
[23:12] <xubuntu21d> ok ty
[23:12] <krytarik> Because it's an entirely different environment.