[00:20] @Claws you might try in konsole : `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` [00:20] I believe that will update Discover as well so that it doesn't jam like that [00:20] to all - help test the 18.04 RCs! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004438.html [00:22] @valorie, I tested , you say [00:22] But my system lost found [00:23] Black screen on boot :/ [00:23] Kubuntu 18.04 beta 2 is terrible [00:23] Many bugs [00:30] upgrade, Claws [00:30] in konsole or terminal : `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` [00:30] I have heard something about SDDM and Nvidia [00:31] do you know how to start a terminal? [00:31] I understand [00:31] But not functioning for me [00:31] control+ alt + f2 [00:31] I had a similar problem, also caused by nvidia [00:31] only an upgrade fixed it [00:32] How exit this? [00:32] I press you say [00:33] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/hNClehAS/file_6008.jpg [00:33] Help me [00:35] put the username you put during installing [00:36] @Claws after that put your password, take note that when you type your password you will not see anything [00:37] I have many problems with kubuntu [00:37] Sorry everybody [00:37] I back for manjaro [00:37] I am beginner with Linux [00:38] and kubuntu i good for you, [00:39] but beta or daily are not for beginners [00:39] it's expected to have some flaws and erros [00:40] you should waited until final release (and some days/weeks) have passed to know what common errors where there [00:40] you can happily try kubuntu xenial, or kubuntu artful [00:41] @claws and by the way, what type of machine do you have, [00:42] @Neyder, Which version you recommend for me ? [00:42] Version kubuntu [00:42] @Neyder, Kubuntu 18.04 lts release is April 26 now ? Correctly? [00:43] @Claws xenial will be ok , [00:43] Artful no? [00:43] 17.10 [00:44] i will choose xenial, because you should upgrade to bionic anyways [00:44] but with artful you only have tree months to go, and with xenial you have two more years [00:46] Understand [00:46] Xenial is 16.04 Right? [00:46] yup [00:47] https://kubuntu.org/news/bionic-18-04-release-candidate-images-ready-for-testing/ [00:47] Thanks man [00:47] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/ [00:47] @valorie, Omg, this is true ? [00:47] Download now? [00:48] I loved kubuntu , but 18.04 beta 2 is terrible [00:48] @Claws, Kubuntu Beta pre-releases are NOT recommended for: … Regular users who are not aware of pre-release issue … Anyone who needs a stable system … Anyone uncomfortable running a possibly frequently broken system … Anyone in a production environment with data or workflows that need to be reliable [00:48] Oh no [00:48] Thanks bro [00:48] heh, not all of us are men! [00:49] valorie: you do not need to be so rude [00:49] KDE neon It's the same thing as kubuntu 16.04? [00:49] * neyder i just wanna marry your daugther [00:50] What? [00:51] @Claws, it's not the same, as of its a KDE distro, based on 16.04, but not kubuntu. upgrade cycle is more or less quicker [00:52] @Neyder, with kubuntu 16.04, can I upgrade to the 18.04 release without having to format? [00:52] @Claws, yes you can do in a couple hours, [00:52] and you will win a pseudo-rolling release [00:53] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/FSMoVAXr/file_6009.webp [00:53] Omg bro [00:53] This is great haha [00:53] You are the man 😚 [00:56] excuse me? [00:58] valorie: you're excused [00:59] Bot useless [01:13] Question: I set my taskbar to show programs only when minimized. I found that I don't like that setting, but for the life of me, I can't find where i set that setting. I've been through my settings a dozen time, and searched the web. Running Kubuntu 16.04. Any one know where that setting is? === Tin__man is now known as Tin_man === kubuntu is now known as Guest71912 [01:21] Right click on the task bar, and pick alternatives? [01:23] ok, don't see the option for showing programs whether maximized, or minimized. [01:23] thats not the setting i changed. [01:24] but one of those setting did help [01:24] it now show a smaller icon which I like much better.. [01:25] thanks. [01:25] Thanks a bunch mparillo .. [01:26] ended up fixing it better than before i broke it.. :) === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [02:30] @Neyder, hey man [02:30] (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/l9wTSGI5/file_6011.jpg [02:30] i can install? [02:32] Feel free to install but some NVidia systems are behaving a little quirky. [02:33] I am new user in linux, better to install artfull? === daniel is now known as Guest16970 [02:42] Artful had quite a few papercuts the have partial solution if you install backports ppa. 18.04 is very solid from the KDE/Kubuntu perspective, but even with the NVidia quirks, I would recommend starting with 18.04. What is the make and model of your video card? [02:43] (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/qLTxKCaQ/file_6013.jpg [02:47] Ahhh, you have a hybrid laptop. How do you manage the video card selection? Bumblebee, prime-select, or ??? [02:47] i dont know haha [02:48] I'm a new user with linux haha [02:48] Open nvidia-settings and view the profiles. Which card is currently enabled? [02:48] yes man [02:49] or open a terminal and type "prime-select query" [02:50] If NVidia drivers are not installed, neither of the above directions are valid. [02:50] (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/2Kuo0Edw/file_6015.jpg [02:54] No NVidia drivers are installed, so if you do the same on Kubuntu, you should not have any issues. I think Manjaro is a rolling release and thus you should have the latest KDE versions. Are you having issues? (Why did you want to run Kubuntu?) [02:56] because I'm not used to using arch linux, and I love the kde interface [02:56] For an "noob"", you just taught me a new command: inix -G is very slick. [02:56] @DarinMiller, haha [02:57] i love kubuntu [02:57] ❤️ [02:57] In your case, I recommend Kubuntu. The hybrid graphic are still a "challeng", but since you are not using NVidia drivers, you should be ok. [02:58] ^kubuntu 18.10^ [02:58] I'll install on 16.04, and wait until April 26 to upgrade to 18.04 lts === mkv is now known as m4v [04:46] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/r7bSQuUZ/file_6017.jpg [04:49] :-) [04:49] I'm seeding that, @Claws [04:55] hey all, quick question - how is the battery life looking on kubuntu 18.04? I'm considering swapping my T430 over but battery life is my last concern. [04:58] so far good for me [04:58] computer is running quiet and cool [04:59] running bionic since beta2 [04:59] how good is good if you dont mind me asking? [04:59] in any way comparable to windows/os x? [05:00] that is a difficult question, apples to oranges [05:00] I average around 5-6 hours on my yoga pro2. [05:00] i know a few years ago battery life on linux was pure garbage - am hoping that is no longer the case. i read that fedora has made some huge improvements [05:00] but I do not have a windows reference. [05:00] there was never windows on this laptop [05:01] i never had good uptime in windows, in macOS it was always good [05:02] but you get what you pay for with those 2 [05:03] kubuntu is solid [05:06] that's not bad at all [05:07] trusted reviews got 6:30 in their review running windows on a yoga pro 2 [05:07] i find it difficult to compare linux to windows/macos [05:08] too many distros [05:09] all i care about is if the battery management is still shit in lunx - and it sounds like it's not. as much as like linux, windows and mac are still way ahead in some very notable respects - glad to hear that linux is catching up in battery [05:22] hello, i'm on an imac5,2. it has 2gb ram and the graphics chip is an Intel GMA 950 (i believe). I installed Kubuntu yesterday and transparency does not work at all. To be honest, I am new to KDE, so i don't know if theres some setting I need to enable/etc. The effect is most noticable in Synapse, where the transparent parts of the menu are just fully black. Does anyone have any ideas about how I can fix this? [05:25] @nulln, Try System Settings -> Display and Monitor -> Compositor -> Rendering Backend [05:26] Recommend one of the opengl options unless they are already selected. Try XRender as last resort. [05:26] Dang, you're a hero. Xrender worked, I'll try some other opengl ones though [05:27] Yeah, Xrender was the only one that worked. [05:27] If xrender works best, leave it there. But the opengl ones should work with intel. [05:29] Thank you again, this system is just about set up :D [05:37] Oh my goodness, just figured out why you said Xrender should be a last resort [05:40] xrender is usually the slowest performer, but in your case, if fixes issues, I would rather opt for imperceptably slower perf than video corruption. [05:40] Managed to fix it. All of the animations (start menu sliding up/down, mouseover task bar previews) were super slow. The login fade was the worst though, couldnt use the system for like 5min lol [05:40] I was actually considering a reinstall lolol [05:41] xrender was the fix? or did you find something else? [05:41] I had to disable all desktop effects [05:41] This is a true bot? [05:41] Or human? [05:41] human :) [05:41] Wtf [05:41] I am using telegram that uses a bot link [05:41] Bro haha [05:42] Understand [05:42] Ah, telagram. I thought the bot linked to Discord or something [05:42] telegram* whoops [05:42] I bugged now [05:43] On older systems, the Blur desktop effect causes major issues. Most of the other effect are OK. [05:43] I installing kubuntu 17.10 [05:43] Now [05:44] 17.10 is a good release, especially with backports enabled. [05:44] it was [05:44] bionic: even better so far [05:44] * DarinMiller agrees with Valorie [05:45] @DarinMiller, Nvidia web driver that's right ? [05:46] I have gforce 830m [05:47] Under manjaro, you were running the nouveau driver (open source NVidia driver). That's the default driver in Kubuntu. [05:48] on kubuntu 18.04 when I installed the NVIDIA drivers and rebooted the computer, it gave black screen. [05:49] and do not leave the black screen. [05:49] If you want to try the proprietary NVidia driver, run this in a terminal: sudo apt install nvidia-340 [05:49] Ok [05:49] Finish installation [05:49] And received this [05:50] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ASKw4R2f/file_6019.jpg [05:50] hold down the "alt" key and type reisub [05:50] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jG6Iyo6r/file_6021.jpg [05:51] Is image attatchments a thing in Konversation, or how are you doing that? [05:51] @DarinMiller, What? [05:51] Oh wait, it's probably telagram-to-irc bot doing that. Ignore me [05:52] sry, hold down the alt key and hit REISUB ( http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/) [05:52] telegram bring image attachment into the 21st century. [05:54] Yeah, I just forgot that you guys were on telegram :P [05:55] Kubuntu many problems [05:55] Omg [05:56] oh oh? [05:56] Are you getting another issue Claws? [05:57] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/wP8RgFUX/file_6023.jpg [05:58] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/A4PcFzmz/file_6025.jpg [05:58] I search Nvidia driver's [05:58] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/W9Xu10zD/file_6027.jpg [05:58] That menu will take a while. [05:59] Which options ? [05:59] First, second or third? [06:00] I recommend installing the 340 drivers. Ubuntu does not correctly recognize some older cards. The 384 driver will not work (maybe that also happened in 18.04?) [06:00] Right [06:01] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0XUIDHEH/file_6029.jpg [06:01] I'm going to wait 26 days for 18.04 lts, so yes I update the driver pro 384 [06:01] 😉 [06:02] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/zIiSXjtC/file_6031.jpg [06:02] OMG that's Impossible [06:02] 4 days [06:03] Is that a winky smiley? [06:03] @DarinMiller, Error open software update [06:03] Yes, those bugs are fixed in 18.04 and in backports. [06:04] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports [06:04] run this command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [06:04] @DarinMiller, and ni 18.04 black screen, I'm screwed haha [06:04] followed by: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt full-upgrade [06:05] the black screen was most likely the 384 video driver. The 340 should work fine in both 17.10 and 18.04. [06:06] @DarinMiller, Are you sure? [06:07] Yes. I have friend who own the a laptop with the same card. We tried the 384 driver as recommend just to see if would work. Nope. [06:07] I spent all day installing distribution, I can not take it anymore, I'll stop at 17.10 with the 340 driver [06:07] We had to boot to a command line and sudo purge nvidia* [06:07] and when I leave 18.04, I put it [06:08] @DarinMiller, Understand [06:08] Have installed ? 340 [06:08] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/MYkF9wIV/file_6033.jpg [06:08] requires restart [06:09] Ok I reboot now [06:09] 1min I'm back [06:10] will take, not black screen. [06:10] 🙏 [06:12] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/aX1VNL29/file_6035.jpg [06:12] Wait finished [06:12] Do you auto login? [06:12] @DarinMiller, No [06:14] takes a long time, full upgrade [06:14] ... [06:14] In 18.04, SDDM and NVidia have not been playing well together. SDDM shows a black screen instead of the password window. However, typing in the password and hitting enter works. [06:14] yes, lots of fixes in backports. [06:15] I hope that all this is corrected in the 18.04 lts version, and is totally stable. [06:16] I am little concerned for SDDM as it difficut to troubleshoot as it seem to be hw specific. [06:17] SDDM? WHATS THIS [06:19] Simple display manager. The gate keeper that allows you to select your boot enviro (Kwin, kwin wayland, gnome, etc) assuming you have more than one desktop envior installed. It's the screen where you type your password when you log in. [06:19] Hmm [06:19] Understand [06:20] reboot successful or still updating? [06:20] @DarinMiller, Still updating [06:20] 94% === redwhite is now known as ZzZzZzzz [06:23]