 I will, once i get back (i promise)
 (And ill even work on the manual if possible)
 OK :)
[01:00] <neyder> tsimonq2: zsyncing dayli images
 Nice :)
 Thanks!
[01:00] <neyder> to you
[01:02] <coolpolygons[m]> Btw, is there a more efficient way of reporting a bug? I dont want to go to launchpad.net every single time i try to write a bug report ._.
 The only other way is to tell us the exact specifics so *we* can file a bug. :P
[01:04] <neyder> tsimonq2: does this tests can be done with virtualbox ?
 @neyder, Yes.
[01:06] <neyder> great
 Although if you have real hardware, that's much better. :)
[01:07] <neyder> i have this magic script that zsync many isos
 I have a similar one. :)
[01:08] <neyder> cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/bionic-alternate-amd64.iso
[01:09] <neyder> this is my main system, and have and old one, just yo i386 testing, i help schools to maintain their old hardware with lubuntu, and this year i was installing lubuntu
 Awesome!
[01:10] <neyder> bionic, and almost no errors
 \o/
[01:20] <neyder> NOW there are no errors with alternate installer, great!!!
 \o/
[01:27] <neyder> it was some like risky to install alternate without knowing what the message was (old bug on alternate)
[01:27] <neyder> and now , like ever before, all the localized messages are showwin up :D
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3957.mp4
 got an error!
 (Photo, 800x600) https://i.imgur.com/c2FNHGT.jpg .config/autostart not found, so Xpad show this message on first start
 Ahh.
 I'll get a fix for you.
 Should be fairly easy.
 if i wanted to fix that? i mean is just like creating first autostart dir
 how i culd do this
 A simple workaround is just to run `mkdir ~/..config/autostart/`
 But a check should be in xpad itself.
 yeah i know, i mean how can i make abugfix to be pushed to an hypotetic final release
 Well, you'd have to dig into the code.
 So grab it by running `apt source xpad`
 Then find where it enables xpad to autostart
 And add a check in there to create the directory it wants to place it in before it places it in there.
[02:39] <neyder> lets do t his
[02:39] <neyder> i had no src enabled :-O
[02:53] <neyder> BTW i finished mandatory testing successfully (*xpad bug) on alternate amd64
 @tsimonq2, i feel like "chuño in ceviche" with trying to figure out the sources
 Hehe
 I mean, i'm lost
 Ah
 I'd personally start for grepping for the autostart code
 Find at least which file it's in.
[02:59] <neyder> tsimonq2: oh! there are an src folder
[02:59] <neyder> xD
[03:10] <tsimonq2> hehe
[03:11] <tsimonq2> Figure things out?
[03:12] <neyder> i think it is not a bug, it got that error on code
[03:12] <neyder> to inform that,
[03:12] <neyder> the solution is to create autostart directory
[03:12] <tsimonq2> Indeed.
[03:12] <tsimonq2> But, xpad should do that if it isn't present.
[03:14] <neyder> oh ok 
[03:16] <tsimonq2> neyder: I'm willing to bet line 365 in src/xpad-settings.c is where you should look.
[03:16] <tsimonq2> ish.
[03:17] <neyder> im in it
[03:18] <tsimonq2> I'll let you try to figure it out so you can learn the process neyder, let me know if you get stuck or need any help from me. :)
[03:19] <neyder> yeah yeah, i know what to do, or figure out by my self
[03:19] <tsimonq2> OK
[03:20] <tsimonq2> neyder: I'd recommend installing ubuntu-dev-tools and using quilt to create a patch under debian/patches/ so once you have a working patch, I don't have to do much with it. :)
[03:20] <tsimonq2> https://raphaelhertzog.com/2012/08/08/how-to-use-quilt-to-manage-patches-in-debian-packages/
[03:20] <tsimonq2> (with DEP-3 header, etc.)
[03:20] <tsimonq2> I don't know what your background here is, though.
[03:39] <neyder> tsimonq2: i'm linux sysadmin, i work with linux many years, since debian potato, i'm a loosy programer
[03:39] <tsimonq2> Ah ok. :)
[03:41] <neyder> ubuntero, speech in UbuConLA 
[03:46] <tsimonq2> Oh cool :)
 @Neyder Did you get anywhere?
 Good Morning, is there a bug already for the installer of lubuntu next? Because it says "kubuntu" on my vm..
 @fbnbmns, Yep. We're going to completely replace that with Calamares soon.
[09:26] <coolpolygons[m]> Getting home in about 2hrs. Btw how is calamares going?
 Good
 I installed Lubuntu Next directly on a laptop (not on Virtualbox but on the laptop itself) and I'm going to use this laptop as a device for everyday use. So if you need any bug reprodution or bug reports. Note: except for a few small things to improve (such as boot time, which is still a bit long), Lubuntu Next is already almost perfect! Many congratulations to all Lubuntu team for the excellent work!
 Awesome. :)
 Boot time is something I'm interested, as I hear that a lot from people
[09:41] <Kamilion> tsimonq2: noticed your falkon ppa; would it be possible to run a final packaging of qupzilla 2.2.6, so I can copy the package to my PPA?
[09:41] <Kamilion> no rush, I'm not racing 18.04's release.
 I'm not working on Qupzilla; feel free to grab that from Debian.
[09:42] <Kamilion> i don't want to occupy the buildboxes while they're busy on the release packages, but falkon pulls in a few too many deps for me
 Don't worry about occupying the builders. ;)
[09:43] <Kamilion> k, will I break anything with the qupzilla trunk link?
 Dunno
[09:43] <Kamilion> er, sorry, what i should really ask is
[09:43] <Kamilion> have you moved everything over to falkon already?
 What do you mean?
 Ubuntu no longer has Qupzilla.
[09:44] <Kamilion> and would that have broken qupzilla's existingness in the process?
[09:44] <Kamilion> it's a transitional package now.
 Right.
 Debian is the reverse.
[09:44] <Kamilion> whereas I want to generate 'the last qupzilla release' in a .deb in my PPA.
[09:44] <Kamilion> because it's drastically smaller than falkon
 They have Qupzilla with a falkon transitional package (which is stupid, IMHO)
 Do what you want. :)
[09:45] <Kamilion> uh, I will.
[09:45] <Kamilion> I don't need all the media stuff that falkon somehow needs now
[09:45] <Kamilion> in fact, it's kinda screwing my builds up :<
[09:46] <Kamilion> trying to pull in all kinds of parsers and media libraries that I would rather do without the potential security issues with.
[09:46] <Kamilion> All I need is a browser that can do this and not fail. http://puu.sh/A8dhF/ffcb40f1c0.png
[09:48] <Kamilion> alternatively -- what are my other options for minimal browsers that the debian alternatives will accept for www-browser ?
[09:48] <Kamilion> the whole thing I'm trying to solve is removing firefox breaks everything that relies on having a browser.
[09:49] <Kamilion> so i have to install something else, anything else, before removing firefox.
[09:49] <Kamilion> i'm sticking with falkon right now because it looks like I have no other choice
[09:49] <Kamilion> and you're the one listed as the maintainer.
[09:50] <Kamilion> know of a way I can build falkon without the whole phonon stuff?
[09:52] <Kamilion> i don't even mind renaming the package to falkon-nomedia or something
[09:52] <Kamilion> and i'm certainly not pushing for it's inclusion in any releases.
[09:55] <Kamilion> ... helloooo?
 That sounds hack.
 *hacky
[09:57] <Kamilion> I'm not sure why it would be
[09:57] <Kamilion> it worked just fine without phonon before.
[09:58] <Kamilion> i mean, audio worked in qupzilla without phonon
 No, I mean, installing another web browser just so you can install Firefox.
[09:58] <Kamilion> huh?
 Anyway, I'm in bed atm.
[09:58] <Kamilion> uninstall firefox.
 Fwd from Kamilion: <Kamilion> the whole thing I'm trying to solve is removing firefox breaks everything that relies on having a browser.
 Fwd from Kamilion: <Kamilion> so i have to install something else, anything else, before removing firefox.
[09:58] <Kamilion> yeah. otherwise alternatives goes bonkers with no browser.
 O_o
[09:59] <Kamilion> eh, sorry, I'll just go away then.
 Dunno. But I need sleep.
 o/
[10:01] <Kamilion> my bad, I thought it would be a good time for GMT
[10:02] <Kamilion> and you were active when I spoke.
[10:02] <Kamilion> Thanks for your time.
[10:02]  * Kamilion heads off to try working around
[10:03] <Kamilion> (also, just to report, I havn't run into any major breakages with bionic yet. Everything I've tried has worked.)
 @Kamilion, (I'm UTC-5)
[10:05] <Kamilion> oh, and so far, everything has worked on three different bare metal systems, virtualbox, and vmware 14/esxi 5.5/6.5.
[10:06] <Kamilion> EFI booting was the only thing that was a little quirky, i never got the usual language selection stuff.
 Ok, cool
[10:07] <Kamilion> i assumed it was some quirk of not using syslinux or whatever for the splash
[10:07] <Kamilion> i think it was booting grub, but it was more than a month ago, so i forget, sorry.
[10:08]  * Kamilion goes back to resquashing filesystem
[10:09] <Kamilion> oh, right, that was a dell box, a poweredge r6... something... r630 maybe. Doesn't like non-efi boot.
[10:10] <Kamilion> i'll check back on it when i go in on monday
 @tsimonq2, I do not know if this is related to the long boot time, but during the boot it appears the message "gave uo waiting for suspend / resume device"
 @tsimonq2, okay, thanks :)
 @tsimonq2, wrote "sudo  update-initramfs -u"
 @Jyoti, I changed the UUID number in the file /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to "RESUME = none" and the boot of the Lubuntu Next became a bit faster
 @Jyoti, Ohhh, right, I remember this bug.
 I'll mention it in the release notes.
 Thanks Jyoti!
 Welcome
[22:22] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you planning on dropping conman from the metapackages as agaida seems to suggest is appropriate?
 @wxl, Post-release
[22:23] <wxl> @tsimonq2: yeah i didn't mean right now per se but just wanted to make sure that all seems to make sense
 Yep
[22:27] <wxl> @jyoti btw thanks for that bug report. though it's clearly not an issue specific to your hardware, your bug report helped us figure out the problem. we plan on fixing it (removing conman permanently from lubuntu-next) after we release 18.04. at that point, you can say you were a major contributor to solving that problem :)
 @wxl, It's an honor, milord! ☺️