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CuChulaindHi everyone. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 on a Dell XPS 15 4K screen. To properly see the text and icons I have my screen % set to 200%, this works fine for most things, however when I use Burp Suite (a java program) the whole thing is so small I can read the text etc. What can I do to remedy this?00:11
strazakwow, you got me on that one.00:12
CuChulaindstrazak, :)00:13
CuChulaindIn that application itself, in the user options, I can set the font size to 40, however nothing changes00:15
oerhekscuchulaind, try <command> --force-device-scale-factor=200:24
cuddlesecksheya all00:27
cuddlesecksmy keyboard layout is US English (IBM Arabic 238_L)00:28
cuddlesecksis there a way to install it to ubuntu without manually mapping the keys one by one?00:29
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, are you installing ubuntu for the first time? or this is a new keyboard on an existing installation?00:30
cuddlesecksI've installed ubuntu using this keyboard. few keys were off compared to the English(US), but it wasn't that bad00:33
cuddlesecksI managed00:33
cuddlesecks<pragmaticenigma>, I don't want to keep using the en us layout though.00:34
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, this is for Ubuntu? Which version?00:36
cuddlesecks16.0400:36
tomreynsudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration00:36
yaxxinoHi00:36
tomreynhi yaxxino00:37
yaxxinocan someone tell me whats the command to display log folder ditails like in this one here https://askubuntu.com/questions/863995/my-var-log-folder-is-taking-too-much-space00:38
tomreynyaxxino: ls -l /var/log00:38
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, you can use what tomreyn just suggested or in your apps find System Settings => "Text Entry" and add the new layout there and remove the English US00:38
tomreynyaxxino: you may want to run it with sudo in case it returns error messages.00:39
cuddleseckstomreyn, the command shows a list of all the preinstalled models00:39
cuddleseckslocalectl list-x11-keymap-models00:39
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, scratch the "Text Entry" area... go to the Keyboard settings in System Settings00:39
cuddlesecksthis does the same00:39
cuddlesecksthe problem is, my layout isn't there to begin with00:39
* pragmaticenigma or i don't know how to do it in the GUI... CLI is best for me too00:40
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, look for Arabic 101, Arabic 102, or Arabic 102 Azerty00:41
cuddlesecksnope, no 102's there. That would've solved half the problem but oh well00:43
bobdobbsYesterday I bought a seagate external drive for backup. I plugged it in and ubuntu found it. I started copying my homedir across before I went to bed. In the morning I discover that the drive can't be accessed.00:43
bobdobbsI unplugged it and plugged it back in. When I try to navigate it using gnomes version of explorer I get the message "unable to access 'Seagate Expansion Drive'"00:44
yaxxinotomreyn: thank you, this is my output https://pastebin.com/FGNidhNz can you tell which file to delete to free space from my var folder and whats the command line to do that. thanks again00:45
bobdobbsThere's a longer message, but gnome won't let me copy and paste text from the dialogue00:45
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, sorry, I was expecting those options tomreyn provided to be like the keyboard selection during install00:45
bobdobbsbasically I just want to plugin in an external hard drive via usb and copy stuff to it. How does one do this with ubuntu?00:46
pragmaticenigmabobdobbs, Do your files have anything other than ASCII characters in them (possibly unicode for non-english based characters)?00:46
cuddlesecksyeah, I wish to know if there's a package to install or something similar to add a new layout00:46
boblamontbobdobbbs: Is it usb2 or usb3?00:47
cuddlesecksotherwise, is manual keymapping the only way? because that'd suck00:47
bobdobbspragmaticenigma: maybe some of them do. Like my music folder is full of non-text files00:47
bobdobbsboblamont: I don't know00:47
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, I found the perfect tutorial, but it's from 2010 :-( a much older version of gnome00:48
pragmaticenigmabobdobbs, file contents doesn't matter but file names do... I'm assuming the drive is formatted in NTFS, which doesn't have very good support for file names outside of the standard ASCII character set or files that contain reserved characters00:49
dabbabobdobbs, did you format it? if so, what file system did you use?00:49
cuddleseckspragmaticenigma, do share, might help me get ideas00:49
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17508/add-keyboard-input-language-to-ubuntu/00:49
bobdobbsdabba: I didn't format it. I didn't think I had to: when I plugged it in for the first time it just worked. I could see the contents00:50
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, I think I was on the right trail with "System Settings" => "Text Entry"00:50
cuddlesecks"System Settings" => "Text Entry"00:50
cuddlesecksthat was the first attempt for me00:51
dabbabobdobbs, my guess is it probably shipped with NTFS, if you don't need windows support maybe try reformatting the partition on it to ext4?00:51
boblamontbad file names shouldn't stop it from mounting the drive though,00:51
cuddleseckslike i said, it's not listed in the layout list00:51
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, in there you can add Arabic as an input source. When you've added the layout, there is a keyboard icon to check the layout on screen00:51
bobdobbsdabba: I guess it doesn't do any harm to format it now00:51
cuddleseckswhich shows a wrong layout, trust me I've tried them all00:52
cuddlesecksall the options for both arabic and english00:52
dabbabobdobbs, thats what i'm thinking, if you were copying and not moving the contents, as in not losing data.  might play nicer with a native linux filesystem00:52
pragmaticenigmabobdobbs, it can corrupt the FAT, which is needed to mount NTFS volumes00:52
bobdobbspragmaticenigma: damn00:52
cuddlesecksI know exactly what my layout name is, I'm just wondering where can I fetch and install it00:52
cuddlesecksif it's even possible00:53
bobdobbspragmaticenigma: so, what's the safest possible way of making the drive accessible00:53
cuddlesecksUS English (IBM Arabic 238_L), this is my layout00:53
pragmaticenigmacuddlesecks, just to verify, this doesn't work for you? https://askubuntu.com/a/29875200:54
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pragmaticenigmabobdobbs, since it is brand new. I'd start with a format. Two options here. If the drive is only for Linux, you can format it in Ext4 and copy to your hearts content. If you want acces via Windows, then format it (preferably with a windows machine) to NTFS to reset it.00:55
pragmaticenigmabobdobbs, it's also possible that a windows machine might be able to repair the drive00:55
pragmaticenigmabobdobbs, without needing to format it... when you plug it into windows, it will want to do a check disk00:55
sigilbaramHow are you supposed to set the root password for mardiadb? It did not ask for one when installed.00:55
bobdobbspragmaticenigma: what about FAT32? If I use that, will the drive be accessible to both windows and linux?00:56
cuddleseckspragmaticenigma, haha I swear I understand the option you're pointing me to my friend. Again, I've tried every arabic and english keyboard layout on that list and previewed them all. No, mine's not there. Yes, this was the first thing I've tried00:56
dabbasigilbaram, run cmd: mysql_secure_installation00:56
pragmaticenigmasigilbaram, this should help you "reset" the mariadb password: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-reset-your-mysql-or-mariadb-root-password00:56
dabbayou want to run mysql_secure_installation after install mariadb to secure it ;)00:57
sigilbaramdabba: No. That just says it changes the password. It still refuses to let me log in afterwards.00:57
oerheksbobdobbs, find out if it is ntfs of exfat or fat32 or ext3/400:57
bobdobbsoerheks: how do I do that?00:57
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting00:57
bobdobbsthanks00:57
pragmaticenigmabobdobbs, FAT32 has a size limit, I'm assuming this is a terabyte sized drive00:57
bobdobbspragmaticenigma: oh yeah. 2 terabytes00:58
dabbahmm, that script always works for me... after running it I can login to root as you would any mysqldb00:58
pragmaticenigmadabba, one needs to know the root password for the script to be able to run00:58
dabbanot the first time pragmaticenigma00:58
compdocpragmaticenigma, the root passwd for mysql/maria00:59
dabbahe said it didn't ask on install (which it doesn't)00:59
pragmaticenigmabobdobbs, exfat does work for both windows and linux. though it still doesn't help with non-ascii file names01:00
sigilbarampragmaticenigma: when I run mysqld_safe it exits immediately.01:00
bobdobbspragmaticenigma: thanks01:01
bobdobbsoh. the gnome shell gives me an option for format the drive!01:02
sigilbaramoh wait it worked this time? @.@01:02
boblamontI just plugged in an external DVD/CD drive to rip a CD, but it isn't showing up. I tried lsusb, but it froze until I unplugged the USB cable from the drive, then it listed the rest of the USB stuff. Is there something that can show me what happens when I plug/unplug it?01:03
dabbaboblamont, dmesg should show you device related events01:04
pragmaticenigmaboblamont, you can look at /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg01:04
boblamontthanks both of you, I'll take a look01:04
pragmaticenigmaboblamont, also might want to try a different cable?01:05
sigilbarampragmaticenigma: "You are using MariaDB as an anonymous user and anonymous users are not allowed to change passwords".01:10
sigilbaramThis after logging in as root... :\01:10
sky887Hell!01:11
sigilbaramSomeone went sooooooooooo far out of their way trying to secure this package that I can't even set it up. :\01:11
pragmaticenigmasigilbaram, the only thing I know is I've used that tutorial with MySQl when I didn't have or didn't know the root password to MySQL.01:11
sky887Hello, i meant01:11
sigilbarampragmaticenigma: I've done these things before. I know that should work, but they aren't with this particular installation, which is brand new. T.T01:13
dabbawhenever i setup mariadb, i install it, run the secure installation script, and login works fine with mysql -u root -p01:13
pragmaticenigmadabba, "works for me" type statements aren't helpful. sigilbaram tried that and it didn't appear to work01:14
sigilbaramI even deleted /var/lib/mysql and did mysql_install_db.01:15
pragmaticenigmasigilbaram, isn't there usually a file somewhere that holds the root password. I know I create one for my own user so I don't have to type the password for automatted scripts01:16
sigilbarammysql_secure_installation says it changes the password, but it doesn't ACTUALLY change it.01:16
pragmaticenigmais mysql_secure_installation even finding mariadb?01:16
sky887I'm new to Linux. Any tips? What to do for instance?01:16
dabbaif that script isn't changing the password, i'm thinking there is a problem with the install and you might want to apt --purge it and reinstall01:16
sky887Do i need to learn the terminal?01:17
sigilbaramsudo mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf01:17
sigilbaramThis logs in but still doesn't seem to let me change the password01:17
pragmaticenigmasky887, nope, you can use Ubuntu without ever touching the terminal.01:18
pragmaticenigmasky887, Your question is very broad, if there was a specific task you needed to complete and were unsure how to do it. It would help if you asked that specific question01:18
sky887pragmaticenigma, ok. Thanks! But what is the difference between Linux and Windows?01:20
oerheks##windows has no trolls01:21
Tin_man:)01:21
sky887I find that I like Linux too01:21
Tin_manwhat a question01:21
sky887Hehe tell me in short01:22
oerheksdisable your mouse and go tty https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal01:22
sky887OK lol01:23
sky887I'm gonna hang around here and maybe learn a thing or two! :-)01:23
pragmaticenigmasky887, that's one of the best ways to learn01:24
oerhekssure a good start01:24
pragmaticenigmasky887, just be careful of commands given to you on the web. Do not try anything you're unfamiliar with. If someone is giving you a command to use, ask them to explain the command and what to expect.01:24
pragmaticenigmasky887, also, search the web for some of those commands. and look for second opinions.01:25
sky887Yep messed up an installation previously because of that01:25
sigilbaramdabba I did apt-get purge off mariadb-* and mysql-common. removed /etc/mysql and /var/lib/mysql. apt-get intall mariadb-server. mysql_secure_install. Same issue. Doesn't actually set the password. T.T01:25
pragmaticenigmasky887, In this room especially, there are unfortunately individuals that will suggest something that is malicious. Others usually will quickly respond to bad commands01:26
sky887Lol!01:26
sky887OK01:26
pragmaticenigmasky887, watching this room you will quickly pick up the knowledge experts01:27
sky887pragmaticenigma, I'm assuming you are one!01:28
dabbasigilbaram, the secure install script completes successfully? any messages out of the ordinary?  do you select any options other than the defaults?01:28
dabbasigilbaram, also which version of ubuntu? my mariadb experience is with ubuntu 16.0401:29
sigilbaramdabba, Password updated successfully!; Reloading privilege tables ... Success!01:30
sigilbaramThis is 16.0401:30
dabbaare you using the ubuntu repository or the official mariadb respository?01:30
sigilbaramThe only respository I added was ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test01:31
sky887pragmaticenigma, i thinking learning coding a little bit too01:31
sky887I've got good resources01:31
dabbasystemctl status mariadb looks good?01:32
sky887*I'm01:32
Tin_mansky887 I found this pdf several years ago.. it's a good primer on terminal. >>> http://www.linuxzasve.com/preuzimanje/TLCL-09.12.pdf01:32
dabbasigilbaram, do you have mariadb-client installed also?01:33
sky887Tin_man Thanks!01:33
Tin_mannp01:33
sky887I'll check it out01:34
sky887Hm.. i won't download.01:35
sigilbaramdabba, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TQkRV4tWZh/01:36
sky887I'll Google though! Great tip!01:36
sigilbaramAnd yeah when I installed mariadb-server it pulled in mariadb-client and mysql-common01:37
dabbasigilbaram, that looks useful01:37
dabbasigilbaram, what authentication plugin are you using?01:38
Tin_mansky887, if you using firefox at the top of the document on the right side you see a printer and a down arrow  press the down arrow, and it will download01:38
sky887Tin_man sorry. I won't01:39
sigilbaramdabba, I don't even know what that is...01:39
dabbado you login when you just do mysql -u root?01:39
sigilbaramdabba, no it says access denied.01:40
Tin_mani doubt you want to print it out, it's 522 pages.. better to download. and leisurely read it with a pdf reader01:40
sigilbaramdabba Oh if I use sudo it works.01:40
dabbasigilbaram, https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/authentication-plugin-unix-socket/01:40
dabbasigilbaram, bottom of that article has steps to switch to password auth if you need it01:41
sigilbaramdabba Wait so this makes it so that local users can connect to their mysql account without a password?01:42
dabbayeah, digging a little more on the docs it looks like this is enabled by default on debian versions (but shouldn't be on ubuntu) which is weird01:43
dabbawell wait you aren't using the official repo01:44
dabbaso if you had used the official repo the plugin wouldn't have been enabled by default (and the password would've worked from the start)01:44
dabbabut the debain/ubuntu packages have this enabled at install01:44
sky887Any good casual chat channels?01:44
theCommenterhi guys, may i know does anyone here has configure their own wifi on ubuntu before? such as recompile the driver so on and forth? I have look through some of the helpful pages posted on ubuntu forum but it wasn't able to solve my problem.01:44
dabbasky887, #ubuntu-offtopic :)01:44
sky887Thanks01:45
sigilbaramThe ppa I'm using is just things like gcc and g++? That shouldn't have messed with mariadb?01:45
sky887Cannot join it dabba01:46
dabbano what i'm saying is if you add the official repos for mariadb, the unix socket authentication plugin would not be enabled01:46
sigilbaramOoooh I thought you meant the official ubuntu repos.01:47
dabbaapologies for the confusion sigilbaram01:47
sky887Any others?01:47
theCommenteri'm using a wifi dongle with Ralink 5370 chipset01:47
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sigilbaramdabba No problem. This is actually kind of a neat feature. I don't mind it now that I know why passwords weren't working. Makes importing stuff easier. xD01:48
dabbasigilbaram, yeah I had used the official packages so I didn't even realize this plugin existed. seems useful.  glad we got to the bottom of it!01:49
dabba*official mariadb packages* :P01:49
sigilbaramThanks for the help figuring out what was going on. xD01:50
pragmaticenigmasky887, to join other rooms you will need to register your nick with freenode01:50
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pragmaticenigmasigilbaram, I had to step away... what ended up being the trouble spot?01:51
sigilbarampragmaticenigma: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/authentication-plugin-unix-socket/01:52
sigilbaramlets users logged into the system use their mysql account without needing passwords, but removes password functionality.01:53
sky887Thanks!01:57
srinihello friends, i try to install dual os in HP laptop. I disable secure boot and fast boot option. after that i install ubuntu. everything fine ubuntu installed but after restarting its directly goes to windows login\ kindly suggest what i should do ?01:58
dabbasrini, you may need to change the boot order in bios to first go to the ubuntu (grub) /boot partition01:58
tweety_when start ubuntu live cd (for 16.04)  get a black screen with two choices: "1." and "2." with no text description next to the numbers.  What does each choice say?01:59
srinibios i select usb,hdd,cd ordee01:59
AmR|EiSaHello01:59
AmR|EiSaI got E: Unable to locate package linux-firmware-nonfree ?01:59
AmR|EiSaWhat new name ?01:59
AmR|EiSaWhat's new name ?*01:59
pragmaticenigmasigilbaram, what a silly plugin to install by default and not tell anyone01:59
dabbapragmaticenigma, I thought the same thing!  Learned about it tonight because I've only used the mariadb repos that don't automatically enable it02:00
sigilbarampragmaticenigma: It's nice now that I know but... yeah... would have been nice to know... xD02:00
srinidabba ?02:01
srinii enable uefi mode also02:01
dabbasrini, in bios, usually you can see options for windows/ubuntu/usb/cdrom - My laptop is lenovo though, and I have not used HP in a long time so I can't say much more than that02:01
sigilbaramIt's especially interesting that mysql_secure_installation just... doesn't care... Success!?02:02
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srinisql is available for ubuntu\is it free or charge ?02:02
dabbasigilbaram, yeah that should give some info on the fact that passwords are completely ineffectual lol02:03
paddyUbuntu 18.04beta2 KDE - I have xpad installed and when I try to connect my XBOX ONE controller it only shows the the mac address and when I go to connect it won't connect02:04
paddythis was working fine on gnome desktop02:04
dabbapaddy, i think you'll want to bring questions on 18.04 to #ubuntu+102:04
pragmaticenigmadabba, sigilbaram now that you meantion it... I think the default MySQL installer does the same thing... It's been a year since I did anything with it02:04
AmR|EiSaAny help ?02:05
sigilbarampragmaticenigma: that's possible. I vaguely remember banging my head against mysql on debian....02:06
sigilbaramI mean ubuntu maybe also debian02:06
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pragmaticenigmasigilbaram, it makes sense if it were a desktop installation, but I use server. implying that the server may need remote connections (though I don't use root for those)02:06
pragmaticenigma!patience | AmR|EiSa02:07
ubottuAmR|EiSa: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/02:07
oerheks!info linux-firmware02:07
ubottulinux-firmware (source: linux-firmware): Firmware for Linux kernel drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.169.3 (artful), package size 41508 kB, installed size 210540 kB02:07
dabbaAmR|EiSa, sounds like you may need to enable the non-free repos02:07
oerheksso the -nonfree is dropped02:07
AmR|EiSaok02:08
Bashing-om!Info linux-firmware xenial | AmR|EiSa02:08
dabbai think if you want nonfree packages that is in the multiverse now, is it not?02:09
dabbasudo apt-add-repository multiverse && sudo apt-get update02:09
sigilbarampragmaticenigma: Well it's a per-use authentication method, so any remote servers that need to connect to MySQL could still use a password instead, while the server admin could use this password to login with ssh.02:10
paradisecafeyo02:10
sigilbarams/admin could use this password/admin could use this plugin/02:12
pragmaticenigmasigilbaram, guess it just needs better documentation in the ubuntu wiki02:15
boblamontI think I found out what my problem with the cd/dvd drive was... it's broken. A different drive had no similar problem.02:22
pragmaticenigmaboblamont, makes sense. glad to hear you solved it!02:24
raynold_halo02:37
raynold_wht is this02:37
i-make-robotshi ubuntu.  I have a 16.04 rescue disk, from which I've managed to access my busted sda1.  I can see all the files.  how can i FTP them to my NAS?  ftp only does one file at a time and I can't install ncftp.02:45
i-make-robotsthey're 12G, so i can't just write them to dvd. :T02:45
i-make-robotshint, please?02:45
oerheksyour nas won't write faster than file-per-file02:47
oerheksyou could make it one file, that could save time with scp02:47
i-make-robotsi haven't the room to zip it all?02:51
i-make-robotsNAS says it can create a NFS user, now i just need to figure out how to mount it on the funky box02:51
i-make-robotsi tried sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.105:/public /mnt/temp, I get invalid fs?02:55
i-make-robotsthere's no /sbin/mount.nfs or /sbin/mount.cifs02:56
oerheksi would just install filezilla in the liveiso, and connect02:57
dabbai-make-robots, would rsync work?03:18
i-make-robotsdabba - i get a "command not found", but when i rs<tab> it lists rsync03:37
i-make-robotssame for scp03:37
i-make-robotsi can ssh to the NAS.03:37
i-make-robotsso idk wtf is going on03:37
dabbai-make-robots, can you use a full 16.04 live usb environment?  as opposed to the rescue disk?03:38
i-make-robotsI don't think I have a usb stick big enough.  lemme check...03:39
i-make-robotsi'd need a url about how to set up a usb stick as the env.  this box is so old it only responds to the ps2 keyboard03:40
i-make-robotsit also says there are 25 of 27G used, then says 0% available. :T03:41
dabbawell if you can use another machine to create the usb media, then booting from the usb media you should be able to access your busted sda1 and move your files.  I'm just not familiar with the rescue disk but I've done similar stuff with just the regular ubuntu 16.04 usb install running in evaluation (GUI)03:42
dabbasounds like the rescue disk you booted from is lacking some functionality that i think would be in the standard 16.04 install media03:42
conjohey anyone know if there is a general ubuntu linux channel on freenode-want to know how to make a live install of windows with persistence on a usb from ubuntu or terminal03:50
pragmaticenigmaconjo, to the best of my knowledge there is no tool in the Linux/Gnu world for that purpose. Microsoft offers a tool that is available only to Enterprise level versions of their OS. you might find help in /join #windows04:00
MoonManTwhat does the "stable" mean in the follow command? "cat rvm.sh | bash -s stable", maybe an argument that is passed into the script being run?04:01
MoonManTi checked the man page, the word stable is not in there, and a google search for stable is very generic04:02
pragmaticenigmaMoonManT, the value "stable" is passed to the script rvm.sh ... the script rvm.sh consumes that argument04:05
pragmaticenigmaMoonManT, if rvm.sh is what I think it is, it is telling the ruby installer to use the "stable" branch for install04:06
pragmaticenigmaMoonManT, further information can be found here: https://rvm.io/rvm/install04:07
MoonManTpragmaticenigma: thank you04:08
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conjoanyone know how to make live win usb from ubuntu04:21
conjocant find info on how to do it from linux only how to from windows04:22
marko_#freedv04:22
conjowhats that dude04:23
gogetaconjo, a tool called woeusb or winusb is what you need04:24
conjocant find it in the ubuntu software center and have been warned off installing from terminal04:24
conjoas repos not kept up to date and leads to security holes in system04:25
conjoplease advise your logic04:25
conjoor approach to make it findable in software center04:25
gogetaconjo, sounds like your normal bad advice someone hear would give04:26
conjommkay04:26
conjoso what then and any thought behind that04:26
gogetaconjo, you try the built in tool04:27
conjodo you mean starup disk creator04:27
gogetaconjo, the gnome disk unilty04:28
pragmaticenigmaconjo, the advice you were probably given is that this channel does not support software supplied outside of the official Ubuntu package repositories. Software obtained elsewhere is at your own risk. It is up to you to determine if the program accomplishes what you desire and is worth installing on your system.04:28
conjoyeah but no good for windows usb that i wanna boot live with persistence(like04:28
gogetautilty04:28
gogetaconjo, you need this ppa the install winusb04:29
conjostarup disk creator is good for making my live linux usb's but not windows unless im doing something wrong(please advise)04:29
gogetaconjo, https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/webupd8?dist=artful04:29
gogetaconjo, yea windows needs it own speical sauce04:30
gogetaconjo, using the normal dd command does not work04:30
conjodo i add it from the terminal (copy paste) or from the software and updates page(see image)04:31
gogetaconjo, copy past then apt-get install winusb04:32
conjohttps://imgur.com/a/sCk4Z6A04:32
gogetasudo apt-get instal winusb04:32
Ben64that won't get you live windows04:34
conjohey where do i paste "https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/webupd8?dist=artful", also do i add wget to it or anything tried in the terminal and this is my output "no such file or directory"04:35
conjotried in the "software updates" and it wont allow me to add04:36
gogetaconjo, you copy this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd804:36
conjothanks04:36
lotuspsychjeconjo: we dont support external ppa's here04:36
lotuspsychjegogeta: when users try to add ppa's please also inform them about the risks aka !ppa04:37
pragmaticenigma!ppa | gogeta04:38
ubottugogeta: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge04:38
gogetai sware when did this turn from helping with issue to purest garbage04:39
lotuspsychjegogeta: do you know how many users come here with scramled dependecies because of adding ppa's?04:39
conjocant install winusb it says "Unable to locate package" help04:40
conjogot the warning cheers04:40
gogetaconjo, sudo apt-get update04:40
gogetaconjo, then sudo apt-get install winusb04:40
conjothanking you04:41
Ben64winusb doesn't even do what was requested04:41
Ben64just a big waste of time :|04:41
pragmaticenigmagogeta, when users install random stuff from all over the web, it becomes very difficult to help them. All the volunteers here know where to find documentation and resources for the items that are provided by Ubuntu. This channel has 1555 users at the moment, next week that number will like quintuple. We strive to help keep things baseline as best we can.04:41
gogetaBen64, he whants a windows installer correct04:41
Ben64no04:41
gogetawell dam04:42
Ben64<conjo> yeah but no good for windows usb that i wanna boot live with persistence(like04:42
conjo(got that what is <Ben64>04:42
Ben64huh?04:42
gogetaconjo, yea winusb only makes windows installers for 7 and up04:42
conjowhat will allow making live usb win with persistence from linux04:43
Ben64nothing04:43
conjosurely there is a way04:43
pragmaticenigmaconjo, as I stated earlier. the only way to create what you are looking for is to have a valid Windows Enterprise level installation. Which has the tool available to build a peristant windows USB live environment04:43
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Ben64nope04:43
Ben64ask ##windows on ways to do it04:43
conjocan you tell me what the tool is called04:44
conjoplease04:44
Ben64ask ##windows or google04:44
pragmaticenigmaconjo, It is built into Windows. I do not know what it is called. Plase /join ##windows as they're more likely to have people familiar with it04:44
Ben64not on topic at all04:44
conjoalso did the winusb install work think i had an error not sure-please advise04:44
conjo<Ben64> mkay thanks04:45
conjohttps://imgur.com/a/lokCLwy04:45
conjo<gogeta> did it work see img04:45
conjothink dats n error on the install yeah? me noob04:45
pragmaticenigmaconjo, it did not work. the PPA does not support Ubuntu 16.04 aparently04:46
conjosuger04:46
lotuspsychjegogeta: you see why suggesting ppa's are risks now?04:46
gogetaconjo, dam that ones down relly04:47
gogetaconjo, just remove that from your softwhere sources to fix that04:47
gogetaconjo, it did not do what you where asking anyways04:48
conjoso now i have to delete the added repo and sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to be all good again is this correct (me noob) help me learn if i am wrong too verbose or overkill04:48
conjojust saw your answer04:48
gogetaconjo, just go to your softwhere sorces in the ui04:48
conjore my question is that overkill04:49
conjothanks04:49
gogetaconjo, yea that was overkill04:49
conjoi made a mistake-i needed to tick the boxes in the software sources page,i hadnt and now it is installed and launching04:51
conjothanks for all it has been very informative for me (learning more about linux and giving me perspective as im not advanced in understanding all that has been mentioned)04:52
gogetaconjo, nice but that only makes install usb sticks04:53
gogetaconjo, not a luve usb04:53
gogetalive04:53
conjogreat to hear conflicting opinions and examples of stuff so i understand04:53
conjoi know04:53
conjobut i have learned quite a bit04:53
conjoif i have to i will use a vm to do it with wsus or sumthing04:54
gogetaconjo, vm are good04:54
gogetaconjo, i do recomond downloading the deb from virtual box vs the one in the store04:54
gogetaconjo, it was usb closed source bits04:55
conjooracle version yeah04:55
conjogot that and the addon for my externals usbs drive sharing04:55
ca_cabotagehow is battery life looking in ubuntu 18.04? i'm considering swapping over my T43004:56
conjoand are there heaps of bugs?04:56
* conjo wants to swap if its good04:56
Bashing-om!18.04 | ca_cabotage04:57
ubottuca_cabotage: Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+104:57
gogetayea thers a channel for that04:57
gogetaits not offical uyet04:58
gogetayet04:58
ca_cabotageyeah, for what a few more days04:58
ca_cabotageso how is battery life in 17.10?04:58
pragmaticenigmaca_cabotage, that is a question better suited for our off topic room, /join #ubuntu-offtopic04:59
Sky887Hi again05:00
gogoHI05:00
gogoI just dl and installed JDK in my ubuntu 16.04 usr/local/java/ but there  is no JRE inside it for me to setup the locarion of javac and java05:01
gogodo I need to install JRE separately?05:02
gogetajava is bad for your soul05:02
pragmaticenigmagogeta, that is not helpful. please keep commentary to offtopic05:02
gogowhy :-(05:02
pragmaticenigmagogo, did you use apt to install java or did you download it direct from Oracle?05:03
gogodownloaded from oracle then tar xzvf05:04
arjunhii05:04
gogodid the package not incluede JRE pragmaticenigme05:04
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Guest42925how to add password to folder05:05
pragmaticenigmagogo, what does the site say where you downloaded it from?05:05
gogopragmaticenigma, nothing just commands after commands05:08
gogocd /usr/local/java05:08
gogo$ sudo tar xzvf ~/Downloads/jdk-9.0.{x}-linux-x64_bin.tar.gz05:08
gogopragmaticenigma, I'm having problem with this part Inform the Ubuntu to use this JDK/JRE:05:08
gogo/ Setup the location of java, javac and javaws05:08
gogo$ sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/local/java/jdk-9.0.{x}/jre/bin/java" 105:08
gogo      // --install symlink name path priority05:08
gogo$ sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/javac" "javac" "/usr/local/java/jdk-9.0.{x}/bin/javac" 105:08
gogo$ sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/javaws" "javaws" "/usr/local/java/jdk-9.0.{x}/jre/bin/javaws" 105:08
gogoI can;t Setup the location of java, javac and javaws05:10
pragmaticenigmagogo... use pastebin.ubuntu.com to post your text.05:11
pragmaticenigmagogo, also, the JDK does not come with JRE ... Oracles site states: The JDK includes tools useful for developing and testing programs written in the Java programming language and running on the Java platform.05:12
pragmaticenigmagogo, the absense of "run java applications" or the like should tell you, you need the JRE installed separetly05:13
gogook pragmaticeigma, how do i do it? terminal or tar?05:14
pragmaticenigmagogo, I don't understand why you are not using the package manager to install this. It would be a lot simplier and we could support it05:20
gogoyes I just did pragmaticenigma05:20
gogousing temrminal05:20
gogoty05:20
gogonow it shows that java is installed05:21
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gogonow where is it? and should I be moving it to usr/local/java ????05:22
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Sky887whats the name of the ubuntu offtopic channel?05:25
pragmaticenigmagogo do not move anything05:25
lotuspsychje!ot | Sky88705:25
ubottuSky887: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:25
lotuspsychjeSky887: we also have #ubuntu-discuss for ubuntu related chat05:25
pragmaticenigmagogo, type "whereis java" to find it05:26
gogoty pragmaticenigma keep doing the good work I apreciate . tysm05:27
Sky887okay, but i cant access the offtopic05:27
lotuspsychjeSky887: are you registered?05:27
Sky887yep i think so05:28
lotuspsychjeSky887: check the error on join?05:28
Sky887i can access it but there is 0 users05:28
lotuspsychjeSky887: mistyped?05:28
pragmaticenigmaSky887, /join #ubuntu-offtopic05:28
Sky887mybe05:28
Sky887probably05:29
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lotuspsychjeSky887: some clients you can click on the #ubuntu-offtopic to join also05:30
sky887im using Polari05:30
pragmaticenigmasky887, oh... nicks are also case sensitive... so if you registered as sky887 instead of Sky887 that makes a difference05:30
sky887yeah05:32
lotuspsychjesky887: identified?05:32
sky887yep05:33
lotuspsychjesky887: ok, join the channel now05:33
krytarikThe above statement is untrue however.05:33
pragmaticenigma!who | krytarik05:34
ubottukrytarik: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)05:34
krytarikYou, my dude! ;P05:34
pragmaticenigmathanks krytarik I'll add it to my notes... some servers are, and some aren't I've found05:35
pragmaticenigmaerr'd on caution side05:35
krytarikFair enough.05:35
sky887well i dont get it to work ah well05:36
lotuspsychjesky887: its not very hard...type /j #ubuntu-offtopic05:36
sky887i have done so m'lord05:36
sky887just wont show any users05:36
lotuspsychjesky887: then your in the wrong channel05:36
lotuspsychjesky887: it has 115 users atm05:37
sky887lol ubuntu-offtopic05:37
sky887hm i think i got the answer i used my cellphone earlier maybe need to log out05:38
sky887in fact i think ill just stay in this channel05:40
lotuspsychjesky887: this channel is only for support05:40
sky887lotuspsychje: well now, aint that a-somthin05:41
sky887what about ubuntu related05:41
lotuspsychje!discuss | sky88705:41
ubottusky887: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!05:41
luna_Installing 18.04 RC1 now05:56
lotuspsychjeluna_: welcome to the ubuntu community, #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 support if you want05:57
i-make-robotsdabba - so... if i have the usb in as sda5 and i open a shell on that, i should be able to write to the media and apt-get?06:02
icmpcatHello. I'm stuck on zesty. I do a apt-get dist-upgrade and I get a lot of errors. What are my options?06:07
sky887you got a range of options, in fact all the options in the world if you think about it!06:09
icmpcatheh06:09
sky887:))))06:09
guivercicmpcat, zesty is EOL. when a release reaches eol its repos are moved from `archive.ubuntu.com` to old-releases.ubuntu.com - you could make this change yourself, then release-upgrade to the later version06:09
icmpcatso change all archive.ubuntu.com entries in my sources.list? that should atleast get me started?06:10
kostkon!eolupgrades06:10
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades06:10
guivercyou could also re-install a newer version (ideally it tries to preserve your apps & settings, but make sure you don't format or make a mistake with the install)06:10
guivercicmpcat, note: if you had country codes (eg. au.archive.ubu..) - remove the country code as old-releases.ubuntu.com doesn;t have them06:11
guivercicmpcat, i hope you're right. you've got it; just remember to `sudo apt update` to update your repo-lists before dist-upgrade etc06:15
sky887whats the difference beteween sudo apt upgrde and sudo apt-get upgrade06:17
sky887 except for the spelling mistake06:18
sky887ill tell ya one's got -get in it, but what else?06:18
ducassesky887: apt has a progress indicator, that's about it06:19
sky887ok06:19
sky887*goin fer a CiG*06:22
sky887anyone stoked for the new LTS release?06:25
sky887i for sure am!06:25
paddyI can't get my xbox one controller to connect06:30
paddyThe bluetooth menu in KDE only shows the mac address and it won't connect. It worked fine in gnome06:30
sky887now i've got two nicks registered nicks on all 3 channels06:46
sky887_Anyone here? Obviously, but, anyone here?07:28
ducasse!ask07:29
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:29
sky887_I have a suggestion. Once you install an irc client on Ubuntu it should direct you to a non-technical channel07:30
sky887_Or maybe both07:30
edisonbulbi have a feeling the microsoft office web app is designed to freeze up and generally provide a horrific experience on linux07:31
ducassesky887_: file a wishlist bug07:31
edisonbulbat least that's what it feels like trying to write papers in it07:32
sky887_ducasse i wont07:32
sky887_Too laaaazy07:32
sky887_But now it's out there07:32
sky887_Maybe in fact ubuntu-discuss07:33
sky887_Ubuntu discuss is for non-technical ties, general newbie questions - am I right?07:35
ducassecheck the topic07:36
sky887_That's what the channel name implies07:36
sky887_And maybe that's what it is07:39
sky887_Anyway when I started out (weeks ago) I found it hard to learn how to operate the system. And I still do. For instance i don't use the terminal very much yet07:41
edisonbulbhonestly i haven't even touched my terminal since installing07:42
sky887_I come from Windows07:42
edisonbulbdoin pretty good07:42
sky887_Yeah! Me too, but there's probably more to this Linux thingy07:43
edisonbulbevery time i do a clean install i like to see how long i can go without opening a terminal07:44
edisonbulbit's like a game to me lol07:44
sky887_Lol07:44
sky887_A good introduction to the terminal at startup will probably do it07:50
sky887_I know nothing about it07:50
sky887_I have just copy pasted some commands07:52
edisonbulbthe most important terminal commands are "ls", "cd", and "vi"07:52
edisonbulbimo07:52
edisonbulbyou can get a lot done in the terminal just knowing those three commands07:53
sky887_edisonbulb well I didn't know that up until now07:53
sky887_What are they for?07:54
ducasse'vi' is probably not the best choice for newbies, better to point them to 'nano'07:54
sky887_I know cd07:54
edisonbulbls just lists all the files in a directory, cd changes the working directory, and vi is a text editor. ducasse is right, nano is a better choice for newbies07:54
edisonbulbi forced myself to learn vi when i was a newb because it felt almost mystical to use07:55
sky887_nano - what for?07:55
techliuls07:55
edisonbulbnano is an easy command line test editor07:55
edisonbulbuse it instead of vi07:56
edisonbulbjust type "nano", it's pretty intuitive07:56
sky887_I don't follow07:56
sky887_I'm not om my computer though07:56
edisonbulbhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45KO4KO2DTo <-- might help with nano usage07:57
edisonbulba text editor modifies the contents of text files, it's basically notepad07:58
edisonbulb*the equivalent of notepad07:58
sky887_Ok07:58
edisonbulbyou can forget what I said about vi, it's pretty advanced07:59
edisonbulbi guess i'm just used to it07:59
edisonbulbgood luck on your Linux journey :)08:00
edisonbulbi gotta go08:00
simonummerhello08:02
simonummeranyone?08:02
sky887_Hi08:02
simonummerhi08:03
simonummerso few people here08:03
sky887_There are many08:04
sky887_Not all may be active08:04
simonummeryeah08:04
simonummermy first time using hexchat08:05
conjoso does my linux ubuntu need antivirus i know windows does and servers do but i am only desktop08:05
sky887_Why choose Linux when there's Windows?08:05
conjowindows gives me headaches endlessly08:06
conjoubuntu pain free so far....08:06
ducasseconjo: no, it doesn't08:06
sky887_I do it for fun. Of course, it's free.08:07
conjoand pain free08:07
conjoupdates dont take days my major takeaway from recent change08:08
simonummerthere's many tools only under linux08:09
sky887_simonummer ok, can you be more specific?08:10
sky887_Maybe Linux is for coders?08:11
simonummersuch as tensorflow08:11
sky887_But it's gaining popularity I guess08:11
sky887_More and more people have taken an interest in IT08:12
simonummerthat's right08:12
simonummerbut turning to linux from windows can be painful at first08:13
sky887_Yeah08:13
guivercconjo, viruses are mostly a windoze problem.  I don't use anti-virus, but I don't transfer that many files to windoze users. antivirus software mostly protects windoze users, so you don't really need protection yourself, but any you use may protect files you xfer to windoze users ... other malware can infect, you could always run clamav now & again if you're concerned, but for yourself - my 2c is nope (note: i'm no expert on malware)08:13
simonummeryou'll get used to it08:13
FXprohey ummm, hi.  I got a question.08:13
FXproI just installed backbox which is an interesting security type distro of ubuntu.  I got fed up with all the errors of parrot os but I do like parrot.08:14
guivercFXpro, this channel is for Ubuntu and official flavors only - i don't know parrot or backbox, but they don't sound like ubuntu (ubuntu-mate, xubuntu etc)08:15
sky887_Thus the increase in app productions - that's an indicator of the status quo08:15
FXprooh ummm08:16
FXproparrot os is its own thing based on debian.08:16
sky887_General public interest in IT08:16
FXprobackbox is a security release of ubuntu.08:16
Ben64no08:16
Ben64it's not ubuntu at all08:16
ducasseFXpro: backbox is not supported here08:16
FXprothey advertised it as ubuntu based.08:16
ducassestill, not supported08:16
guiverconly Ubuntu and official flavors (xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-mate, ubuntu-budgie ... they are pretty easy to detect!)08:17
FXprook so let me ask you if I where using strictly ubuntu, and I made a short cut of a program to the panel, where does it put the icon?08:17
guivercFXpro, that depends on DE or flavor used08:17
killesup guys08:17
Ben64FXpro: try getting support from a backbox channel or in ##linux08:18
ducasse!backbox | FXpro get support here08:18
ubottuFXpro get support here: Backbox Linux is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu and is thus not supported in #ubuntu. Please use #backbox on irc.autistici.org or https://forum.backbox.org/ for help with it.08:18
FXproout of all those you just listed lubuntu and xbuntu I tried.08:18
FXproubottu, thanks for the info but I already tried.  I can not connect to their server via client or web interface.08:19
ubottuFXpro: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:19
FXprowell ducasse then  :)08:20
Ben64##linux exists on this network and is for linux in general, this channel is only for Ubuntu08:20
FXproubuntu is debian based right?08:20
guivercwhat is your point FXpro ?08:20
FXproor how exactly does that work.  fork of debian=ubuntu?08:21
guivercparts of debian are supported by ubuntu, its not a fork though some parts may be08:21
FXproahhh, and there is an apps store?08:21
gogowhere can i get indepth knowledge about Ubuntu08:21
guivercdebian is usually described as upstream of Ubuntu (particularly debian-sid)08:22
gogoI have been using it for a while but using it just for normal uses and I don't think I have tapped into the area for which it is actually built08:22
sky887_gogo: probably a book or online resources08:22
gogosky887_ any particular one you would suggest?08:23
guivercgogo, maybe try https://ubuntu-manual.org/ for a manual (user level stuff), if you need more technical you can use the wiki or other resources (parts of the wiki are rather old, some parts are kept up-to-date, so check dates of last update maybe)08:24
sky887_gogo I'm new to Linux. I haven't done the research08:24
guivercgogo, in what area do you want to learn more, what do you want to accomplish (though this dicussion would be better suited for #ubuntu-discuss)08:25
gogoguiverc: I want to learn about these permissions and groups and all the technical stuff so that I don't need to google everytime I get an error in terminal. I really want to understand the language that Ubuntu talks in. I have learned to use the terminal to  do small tasks like installing or the basic commands08:28
ducassegogo: you really just need to read docs, and it will come with experience. learn how to use the man pages.08:29
gogoalright ducasse. I'll start reading them now08:30
gogowhere can I find the Java > jdk1.8.0_74 > bin path in ubuntu? I installed it using terminal and now I need to paste a code there08:31
guiverci agree about man pages; (man=manual); its a great reference tool, particularly for jogging memory. me I like paper books, so I buy books (2nd hand to cut costs; for terminal *nix things like groups/permissions its been the same for decades; vi i learnt in the 80s is still useful, just as grep & other unix commands learnt long ago)08:34
ducassealso, 'info'. 'info bash' will give you the full bash manual.08:38
guivercgogo, i know 0 about java, but to find out where 'java' command is you can type `whereis java`08:39
Deknosis anyone aware of a maildir/mbox importer/exporter for the recent version of Thunderbird?08:46
x4i_<x4i_> I ma trying to run git clone from an Ubuntu subsyetm on Windows. It says that it cannot handle https protocol. Has anyone encounter that problem?08:49
x4i_Is that a git issue or Ubuntu under Windows issue?08:50
ducasse!ubuwin | x4i_08:50
ubottux4i_: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide08:50
capI've installed a windows program called jpegview in wine, i want to know how am i make it the default photo viewer for ubuntu? actually it wasn't installed, u just download it and run the app.08:56
capdon't have the option to browse for the app in the context menu, it just list the programs available.08:57
sky887_I want to be invited to the windows channel08:58
ducassesky887_: ask in #freenode, not here08:59
sky887_Any general programming channels?09:00
sky887_ducasse ok thanks!09:00
sky887_Any language09:00
ducasse#freenode is irc support, #ubuntu is not09:01
ducasse!alis | sky887_ but try this09:01
ubottusky887_ but try this: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"09:01
sky887_ducasse thanks! Found a good channel09:10
paddyCan't connect bluetooth xbox one controller: I thought it was supposed to work by default. When I go to connect via bluetooth it just shows the mac address and doesn't connect. I tried xboxdrv but that doesn't work either.09:16
thinquehi09:18
Buankahey guys, cant get  my software centre to open for two weeks now, any idea how to fix it?09:34
sadmohi u all09:39
sadmoanyone there?09:39
DbuggerI have a problem. I am trying to create PHP Docker container in my machine, but for some reason it exits immediately. I know this question should go into #docker, but it turns out that the same code is working on other machines, so this makes me suspect the problem is on the OS level. Like maybe some corrupted files somewhere or something like that. Does anyone have a clue what could be the reason for this problem?09:40
kostkonsadmo, hi09:40
sadmohi kostkon09:40
sadmocould you give me an opinion about a problem I have?09:41
kostkonsadmo, describe your problem in detail and someone might be able to help you if not me09:42
sadmoi can't install latest ubuntu 18.04 beta. I have an NVIDIA 1070 so I have a problem with drivers. I boot from usb with nomodeset, install, reboot with nomodeset, then I install the NVIDIA drivers and then I can't boot anymore even with nomodeset09:44
kostkonsadmo, #ubuntu+1 is the channel for 18.04 since it's not out yet09:45
ducassesadmo: 18.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 until release09:45
sadmothank you... I'll try in that chan09:46
Dbuggerwow, i never knew such a channel existed :O09:46
_war10ck_!topic09:46
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic09:46
SimonNLDbugger: https://hub.docker.com/_/php/       Quick reference, Where to get help      would that help ?09:46
sadmoanyway I have the same problem with all the linux distros I try to install09:46
sadmothe only one that boots is Mint.09:47
DbuggerThanks, Ill take a look09:47
SimonNLgood luck Dbugger09:47
Buanka cant get  my software centre to open for two weeks now, any idea how to fix it? ubuntu 16.04 , default environment09:51
paddyCan't connect bluetooth xbox one controller: I thought it was supposed to work by default. When I go to connect via bluetooth it just shows the mac address and doesn't connect. I tried xboxdrv but that doesn't work either.09:51
Buankahere's what i get with sudo gnome-software                      https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7vN3bDhkSw/09:53
_war10ck_Buanka: Kill the process "gnome-software" and then Ubuntu Software is working properly again09:54
_war10ck_Buanka: pkill gnome-software and then try opening it again09:56
_war10ck_It should work out. In case there is a service running, try restarting the service09:56
Buanka_war10ck_: tried that, same output09:58
Bu4nka_war10ck_, any thoughts?10:05
_war10ck_Bu4nka: Still trying to see if there might be any other way. I had solved the same problem earlier and it worked out10:14
_war10ck_Bu4nka: Can you try this? issue killall gnome-software10:16
_war10ck_Bu4nka: Once that is done, remove the local data from ~/.local/share/gnome-software10:16
_war10ck_Bu4nka: Then try opening Ubuntu Software center from the Unity launcher10:17
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BluesKajHowdy folks10:27
prabhatHi10:27
prabhatGuys10:27
tomreyn_war10ck_: sudo appstreamcli refresh --force --verbose10:28
tomreynhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/156315510:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1563155 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "No Application Data Found" [High,Confirmed]10:29
tomreyn(not the exact same symptoms but it may well help)10:29
_war10ck_Bu4nka: checkout https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/156315510:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1563155 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "No Application Data Found" [High,Confirmed]10:30
tomreynoh erong person, sorry ;)10:30
tomreyn*wrong10:31
moestevensHey I was wondering if GNOME slowing to a halt after like a day's worth of use was related to that memory bug everyone's talking about10:37
Rockwoodhello everyone how are you all10:43
lotuspsychjeRockwood: welcome, how can we help you?10:43
Rockwoodlotuspsychje, i am face error10:44
Rockwoodfacing10:44
lotuspsychjeRockwood: share the details all in one line to the channel please10:44
Rockwoodlotuspsychje, i am looking for error logs10:47
tomreynmoestevens: if you are referring to a 18.04 beta, just based on the symptom, this might be related. Please discuss 18.04 in #ubuntu+1 until release.10:48
lotuspsychjeRockwood: perhaps you could share, what you facing already?10:48
Rockwooderror showing on menu but i am unable to copy or screen shot it10:48
Rockwoodits showing some error in temaviwer package10:49
lotuspsychjeRockwood: teamviewer is not officially supported from the ubuntu repos10:50
Rockwoodits shows some like file could not be parsed or opened10:50
Rockwoodlotuspsychje, i want to remove that package10:50
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | Rockwood10:51
ubottuRockwood: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html10:51
Rockwoodlotuspsychje, any way to see proper error ? by logs10:51
Rockwoodjust notification is how on menu that sit10:52
lotuspsychjeRockwood: when installing or uninstalling with apt, it should show errors in terminal10:52
Rockwoodits installed few time back right not10:53
C0ckGobblerHi, is there a channel for homosexual ubuntu users ? We are quite a terribly large community11:04
cfhowlettthere is no ubuntu channel based on sexual preferences or race11:04
C0ckGobblerSome even say we make up the whole but thats up to a debate11:04
cfhowlettfeel free to create your own11:04
confluency95% sure this is trolling.11:05
cfhowlettya think?11:05
confluencyI mean, there's a sliver of a doubt.11:05
confluencyThat username certainly seems completely serious.11:06
C0ckGobblerWhat does your heart tell you11:06
cfhowlett.5 %11:06
cfhowlettC0ckGobbler, this is a family friendly channel.  your nick is not.  change it, please.11:06
C0ckGobblerThis is pretty serious, we need to migrate to a channel where we all feel at home11:06
cfhowlett!guidelines | C0ckGobbler applies to you and everyone else11:07
ubottuC0ckGobbler applies to you and everyone else: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines11:07
confluencyNothing is stopping you.11:07
C0ckGobblerYou dont know youre homosexual yet but once the truth kicks in11:07
confluencyPlease amuse yourself elsewhere.11:07
C0ckGobblerWe will be at #ubuntu-homo11:07
cfhowlettaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you are now a proud member of my /ignore.11:07
C0ckGobblerWhere all of us belong11:07
lotuspsychjeC0ckGobbler: stop it please11:08
C0ckGobblerThe truth is out11:08
confluency!ops | C0ckGobbler11:08
ubottuC0ckGobbler: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax11:08
C0ckGobblerFreedom for homosexual linux users11:08
C0ckGobblerWhere they wont be oppressed anymore11:08
akskosC0ckGobbler sounds like a homophobic troll11:09
C0ckGobblerYou are the majority11:09
C0ckGobblerNo i m not11:09
C0ckGobblerYou are the 95%11:09
lotuspsychjeC0ckGobbler: this is the ubuntu support channe, no place for this discussion11:09
C0ckGobblerHomosexual linux users need support and a community11:10
cfhowlettban requested !ops11:10
C0ckGobblerWhere they will feel at home11:10
C0ckGobblerYou are the world, you are the future11:10
BluesKajyour sexual preference has nothing to do with ubuntu support ...get it?11:11
C0ckGobblerUbuntu supports its majority user base that is the homosexual linux users11:12
BluesKajidiot!11:12
C0ckGobblerIt has everything to do with it11:12
BluesKajcan someone get rid of this troll please?11:13
cfhowlett!ops please ^^^11:13
ubottucfhowlett: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:13
cfhowlett!ops | please ^^^11:13
ubottuplease ^^^: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax11:13
confluencyHopefully the ops will notice; until then, stop talking to them. It will make it easier to ignore them.11:14
Bu4nka_hey guys, how come one of my internal disks says i'm not the owner even though i formatted it on this session? ubuntu 16.0411:33
lotuspsychjeBu4nka_: are you logged in as admin of your system? how did you format?11:35
Bu4nka_lotuspsychje, Logged in as admin, formatted in ext2 with Disks11:37
cfhowlettext2?  but why?11:37
banyantreeHi Guys11:38
banyantreei'd like to buy a new computer is there a hardware compatibility list in the internet?11:39
Bu4nka_cfhowlett, is that a good format? i was actually about to change it to ext2 encrypted11:40
banyantreeand what is working better under linux nvidia or amd/ati11:40
cfhowlett!hcl | banyantree11:40
ubottubanyantree: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection11:40
banyantreecfhowlett: hcl?11:40
cfhowlettBu4nka_, supported, yes.  deprecated, old, unwise, also yes11:40
chuThere is also this: https://certification.ubuntu.com/11:40
Bu4nka_cfhowlett, what would u suggest ?11:41
lotuspsychjeBu4nka_: try gparted, ext411:41
cfhowlettbanyantree, did you read the link?  Hardware Compatibility List.  also see above11:41
cfhowlettext4 is the current formated, Bu4nka_11:41
banyantreecfhowlett: well thx11:41
cfhowletthappy2help!11:41
Bu4nka_and then for encryption?11:41
cfhowlettbanyantree, FYI, Dell, system76 sell linux with ubuntu OEM11:42
banyantreecfhowlett: I build my own systems11:42
cfhowlettBu4nka_, yes, you can encrypt ext411:43
cfhowlettbanyantree, ah!  sorry, I misunderstood.11:43
Bu4nka /msg NickServ identify11:45
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laptophelp, I need to know if there is a better driver than the mesa driver for ubuntu for an intel gma 4500 mhd, has anyone encountered similar problems using the mesa driver, it seems faster on windows11:52
lotuspsychjelaptop: check ubuntu-drivers list from a terminal please11:53
brainwashlaptop: it's the only one you can use11:53
Bu4nkaok formatted to etx4 with gparte . still says i am not the owner..11:55
laptopany alternatives11:55
laptopfor example can I download the windows driver using wine11:55
brainwashobviously not11:55
lotuspsychjeBu4nka: is this the full harddrive or a partition part?11:55
Bu4nkalotuspsychje, full hd11:55
brainwashlaptop: well, you can download it, but not used it11:55
brainwashnot use11:55
laptopanyone have any experience with this driver or particular11:56
laptopintel gma 4500 mhd and noticed a difference between windows and ubuntu11:56
lotuspsychjeBu4nka: its not physically write protected or so? how is it attached on your pc?11:56
brainwashlaptop: how do you even test?11:56
Bu4nkalotuspsychje, Sata11:56
laptopI loaded up windows vista and compared the same game11:57
laptopon the computer11:57
lotuspsychje!chmod | Bu4nka trh this?11:57
ubottuBu4nka trh this?: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions11:57
laptopand it was 25% faster11:57
brainwashand?11:57
laptopand did not stutter but windows vista has no support11:57
brainwashyou cannot expect getting the exact same performance11:57
laptopyes but it is markedly slower11:57
btpyou can expect better than vista though11:58
laptopi love ubuntu11:58
Bu4nka!chmod11:58
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions11:58
laptopmy real question is how much is the driver really supported11:58
lotuspsychjelaptop: slower graphics chipset, try lighter Os xubuntu/lubuntu?11:58
brainwashyour gpu never had the best linux support11:58
brainwashideally, you want a newer intel gpu11:58
laptopI am on lubuntu, finally I want to ask is there is an intel11:59
laptopdriver chipset that will work for ubuntu vs the mesa driver11:59
lotuspsychjelaptop: ubuntu chooses best layout for you11:59
lotuspsychjelaptop: as told before above, ubuntu-drivers list to check11:59
laptophow do I run the terminal command12:00
lotuspsychjelaptop: open a terminal and type: ubuntu-drivers list12:00
lotuspsychjelaptop: to see current driver: sudo lshw -C video12:02
laptop  *-display:012:03
laptop       description: VGA compatible controller12:03
laptop       product: Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller12:03
laptop       vendor: Intel Corporation12:03
laptop       physical id: 212:03
laptop       bus info: pci@0000:00:02.012:03
lotuspsychjelaptop: at bottom driver=12:03
laptopis there  a better drive configuration: driver=i915 latency=012:04
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lotuspsychjelaptop: looks properly loaded driver, and if your on lubuntu think its best layout for your system12:05
laptophttps://www.techzim.co.zw/2017/06/tuning-intel-graphics-card-ubuntu-16-04/12:05
lotuspsychjelaptop: tuning is possible yes, tweak your whole system12:06
lotuspsychjelaptop: fix intel tearing, install preload,disabled unwanted services startup, clean harddisk12:07
laptophow12:08
lotuspsychjelaptop: tell us first whats happening exactly with your graphics? what are you trying that does not work well?12:09
laptopplaying games it will slow down in the middle12:09
lotuspsychjelaptop: wich game?12:09
laptoplotro12:10
lotuspsychjelaptop: lord of the rings?12:10
laptopyes12:11
cfhowlettwhat year is your lappy, laptop?12:11
laptop200912:11
lotuspsychjelaptop: not a game for your chipset mate..12:11
lotuspsychjelaptop: reccomended: Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460. | AMD Radeon HD 585012:11
cfhowlettold machine, then.  you might already have squeezed the best you're going to get out of that12:12
laptopit worked before on windows other people playing it says it work with similar12:12
laptopsetup, also it works well for the first 5 mins12:12
laptopand then stutters and comes back to life after like 10 min12:12
laptopthe game is old from 200812:12
lotuspsychjelaptop: shadow of mordor right?12:13
laptopyes12:14
lotuspsychjelaptop: def. not reccomended on that graphics12:14
lotuspsychjelaptop: go for suggestion of brainwash new graphics card12:15
laptophow12:15
lotuspsychjelaptop: with money?12:16
laptopok12:16
lotuspsychjelaptop: or play more softwer games on lubuntu? you like tuxracer?12:16
lotuspsychje*softer12:16
sky887_I'd like to download an iso of the 18.04 LTS release.  Where do I get it?12:18
cfhowlettit's not yet released sky887_12:19
cfhowlett!bionic | sky887_12:19
ubottusky887_: Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+112:19
sky887_cfhowlett i can download the beta12:20
cfhowletthttps://betanews.com/2018/03/09/ubuntu-linux-bionic-beaver-beta/12:21
cfhowletthttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/12:22
root____z12:22
cfhowlettlaptop, does your system experience problems ONLY with LOTR?12:30
laptopyes12:30
cfhowlettsounds like the demands of that game are straining your capabilities.  try lowering the game settings, e.g. lower quality display, etc.12:32
vltHello. I installed openbox and chose it sucessfully in the Ubuntu login menu. After 10 minutes the screen switches off and I have to press a key to switch it back on. How can I disable that?12:47
fox1qualcuno da roma13:02
fox1?13:02
cfhowlett!es | fox113:03
ubottufox1: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:03
vlt:D13:05
makiatoi have Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS and  when i start my laptop i get "The system is running in low-graphics mode" error i try to fix by renstalling ubuntu-desktop but  still the same problem, it works temporary by restarting lightdm but it is not permanent solution  the problem continues  after restarting another time any solution13:06
mpoHello there, ladies and gentlemen. I have an inquiry that you may possibly help me with. I'm using empathy for this XMPP thingy. The chatting works, I can send quick one, two or five liners. Having the input line at the bottom is a horrible design, even though it probably works for people who have not more to say than "Hello" and "How are you?". I usually like to send messages with hundreds or thousands of words. And if I'm not completely mistaken, I13:40
mpothink, I once managed to open an external message compositer, just like the ones email clients provide. However, I cannot find out how to open this message editor, and I have absolutely no idea how I did open this useful tool last week. Could anyone of you confirm that I did not hallucinate and that there is such an editor for empathy? If so, please do tell how I may open this thing. Empathy as it is should generally discard this one-line chat-input13:40
mpocraziness, and provide a proper text input window to the left or to the right of the chat window. Thanks in advance, folks!13:40
alehello13:44
aleNeed some help with partition in usb stick13:45
aleDisk /dev/sdb: 14.9 GiB, 16025387008 bytes, 31299584 sectors13:45
alebut the disk have partition bigger than that13:45
aleI think the .img that I burned was cloned from bigger stick or something13:45
mpoale, how much bigger should it be?13:46
aledev/sdb3       14690304 234441647 219751344 104.8G 83 Linux13:46
transhumanwell this statement requires a little "knock on wood" before being found affective but I think I just recovered a system that ran out of hard drive space (after expanding virtual drive) by issuing an init 2 & sudo apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg  -get-selections | grep -w 'install$' | cut -f1) might be helpful for someone else in same situation , recommend a backup or san snapshot  before running it though --even better13:46
transhumanboth13:46
aleI want to clone the stick but I don't know how to exclude sdb313:46
alethe other 2 partitions are ok13:47
transhumansorry init 2 && sudo apt ...13:48
aleany ideas mpo ?13:49
sky887i have the development version of ubuntu 18.04 installed14:09
sky887i love it :)14:09
miguel2013can anybody tell me what app should I use for a usb video capture card s-video and such  on ubuntu server is it possible without a gui14:17
arm1eDoes anyone know how to theme firefox properly when using a dark gtk theme?14:18
pragmaticenigmaarm1e, Firefox comes with the built in ability to apply themes. Click on the three line menu (on the top-right side of the window) and click customize14:21
pragmaticenigmamiguel2013, most video applications require gui because their intention is for you to view or edit the content which requires a visual component.14:22
miguel2013pragmaticenigma but14:22
miguel2013pragmaticenigma I know dv doesn't need14:22
pragmaticenigma!enter | miguel201314:22
ubottumiguel2013: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.14:22
miguel2013pragmaticenigma I just wanna copy and fork it to ffmpeg and apply mp4 codec to it14:22
miguel2013lol thanks14:24
pragmaticenigmamiguel2013, I'm not aware of any such application/program14:24
miguel2013how about on ubuntu studio14:25
pragmaticenigmamiguel2013, Ubuntu studio is just a spin of Ubuntu that highlights Audio Video applications. All of the programs and applications available in Ubuntu Studio are available to all flavors of Ubuntu14:26
miguel2013I guess I need to know if ubuntu supports my hardware is an old pinacle usb capture card14:28
pragmaticenigmamiguel2013, you might cvlc (vlc for command line) might work once you can verify your capture device works. See /join #videolan for more dedicated help on VLC14:29
pragmaticenigma*you might want to check out clvc14:29
pragmaticenigmaugh14:29
pragmaticenigma*you might want to check out cvlc14:29
miguel2013I udnerstood14:30
fcanelahello14:36
fcanelaI am curious about where I can see the actual discusions and problems that are being worked before releasing 18.0414:37
fcanelai though about release maillist but nothing interesting there14:37
transhumanI have a slight problem with my magic fix when I either do apt-get install --reinstall apt or do a dpkg -i <apt-package> it hangs indefinitely14:38
transhumantill I break the process14:39
omiHello. Does anyone know why my keyboard layout is different in grub than in the OS?14:41
omiI can not for the love of me make an '=' in grub14:41
realieshow does one run novnc from the rpo?14:50
realiesrepo*14:50
realieshttps://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/novnc/filelist14:50
realiesdoes not seem to be the whole package14:50
lapagarealies, thats just a list of whats in the iso14:54
realiesiso?14:55
realieslel14:56
pragmaticenigmafcanela, see #ubuntu+114:57
pragmaticenigmarealies, novnc is a web based application. The package in the repo is meant to install along side an existing webserver installation.15:00
realiesnot really15:00
realiesecho "/usr/bin/websockify --web /usr/share/novnc 6080 localhost:5900" > /usr/bin/novnc15:00
tinch0Hello, I have a question about installing Ubuntu Budgie 18.04 beta 2 on my laptop.15:01
transhumananyone know what would cause the apt package to hang during reinstall?15:01
realiesit's usually ran with https://github.com/novnc/noVNC/blob/master/utils/launch.sh pragmaticenigma15:01
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realiesit depends on websockify, so go figure ;)15:01
pragmaticenigmarealies, that might be how you run it when you download it from the project site. Ubuntu has implemented it differently15:03
realiesno, it hasn't, the package still depends on websockify and is meant to be used with it15:03
tinch0I've disabled secure boot in bios and fast boot in windows options. Both things you're meant to do.   On my old machine in the built in installer it would just auto-partition your HDD for you, but on this one it doesn't appear.   I'm wondering whether it's connected to ubuntu not being able to read my windows SSD and access the files.   The GUI installer comes up, but the one click "install next to windows" wizard check box does not 15:03
realieshttps://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/novnc15:03
tinch0If anyone could help with this I'd be very grateful!15:03
gareppahas someone running 16.04 suddenly run in  “The system is running in low-graphics mode”  error this week? i'm just using the default installation, and running periodic updates. did any update break anything?15:03
gareppabtw, i can login normally after the error15:04
pragmaticenigmarealies, If you want to argue, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic ... I'm trying to tell you, that the package provided by Ubuntu is implemented differently.15:05
ducassetinch0: 18.04 support is in #ubuntu+115:05
tinch0okay, thanks!15:06
realiespragmaticenigma, if the package provided by ubuntu is implemented differently, why does it depend on websockify?15:06
pragmaticenigmarealies, because web_socket.js needs a server to point at, which for it to comply with SOP, means the server hosting novnc must also host websockify instance to work.15:08
realiesand that's why you have the utilities script15:10
pragmaticenigmarealies, in order to reduce redundant code, Ubuntu developers determined that they could either include the utils component or they could implement websockify, they chose the later since it can be used for other tools that leverage websockify. The components in utils are designed for a stand alone installation.15:12
realiesthe utils 'component' depends on websockify, not sure what you mean with 'either include the utils component or they could implement websockify'15:15
pragmaticenigmarealies, on my server, if I were to install novnc. I would expect to find a simlink to /usr/share/novnc/vnc.html in my /var/www/html folder or I would find a virtual host definition in my /etc/apache2 configs. that completes the web server requirement. Apt installs websockify which completes the web proxy socket service requirement for novnc.15:15
pragmaticenigmarealies, what you see on the novnc project site assumes you don't have all those pieces in place.15:16
realiesyou don't have them in ubuntu either, what you're saying makes no sense15:17
transhumanas an alternate is there a way to disable a reinstall of a particular package in the command sudo apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg  -get-selections | grep -w 'install$' | cut -f1) skip a particular package which in this case is apt.1.12...15:17
pragmaticenigmarealies, To save on storage, Ubuntu doesn't supply the entire novnc package, because it doesn't need to. They configured it to work with other components15:17
realiesnot sure what the postscript for the package is, but i don't have a simlink for vnc.html anywhere15:18
transhumanso the apt-get install --reinstall force it to ignore a package15:18
transhumanguess I could do it on the other end of the command with a if function in the bash if then skip type thing15:20
realiesthe file that is missing is 1.8K when zipped, I guess thanks ubuntu for saving muh space15:20
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pragmaticenigmarealies, Ubuntu package already has a package for websockify. Ubuntu devs use that instead of the one provided in utils. Since they use the websockify package, they have no reason to include utils.15:21
sky887_I know this isn't the appropriate channel but why the double # on some channels15:23
realiesi'm not sure if you're taking the piss or you're serious15:23
sky887_?15:23
transhumannever mind I will break it into to pieces and use an xarg on it after removing the apt_1.12 package15:23
pragmaticenigmarealies, I'm serious... the whole point of package management is to reduce the amount of redundant code and software.15:25
pragmaticenigmarealies, more than novnc uses websockify15:25
realiesthat's what i've said15:26
pragmaticenigmarealies, there are tools that enable SSH through the webbrowser, that uses websockify. For an example. So if I installed novnc and webssh, you're expecting that you'd see the utils/websockify in both installations. I'm telling you instead they will not, and instead share a single installation of websockify that is installed separately15:26
realiesif you've taken a look at the launch.sh script, it does run the components as a standalone novnc service, other distributions provide this as an executable novnc_server15:26
pragmaticenigmarealies, and Ubuntu has websockify as it's own independent package. They are using that instead.15:27
realiesall distributions use the websockify package as a dependancy15:27
realiesubuntu is missing the script that starts the service as stand-alone, which is the main use-case for novnc15:28
realiesit seems the ubuntu developers have missed the point15:30
pragmaticenigmarealies, If I could find documentation on this, I would have posted it long ago. Every site I've visited suggests download the git, and running it via the method you have suggested. Why don't you do that and drop it15:30
realiesand the git page suggests what? why would the ubuntu developers ignore the main usecase for a piece of software?15:31
SlidingHornrealies: if the package is missing a critical script, then file a bug report.  This is beyond the scope of this channel.  Please drop it.15:32
realiesSlidingHorn, trying to establish the meaning of 'critical'15:33
realiespragmaticenigma says it's not a requirement, i see it otherwise, can't we discuss?15:33
pragmaticenigmano15:33
realieswhy not?15:33
SlidingHornrealies: well, considering you've been arguing about it for quite a while, I'd say you believe it is...in which case, file a bug report.  Regardless, this is not the place to discuss it15:33
realiesbut this is the official ubuntu support channel15:34
pragmaticenigmarealies, keyword there was support... not discuss15:34
SlidingHornrealies: we are not developers here. They won't be reviewing the logs, and therefore, the conversation at hand is not going to make a difference.  If you *would* like a difference to be made, then file a bug report.15:35
SlidingHornotherwise, you're arguing for the sake of argument, and you're off topic.15:36
BluesKajrealies, think your question has a better chance of an answer in #ubuntu-devel15:36
realiesSlidingHorn, before committing to 'making a difference' I would very much like to see the community's response on the 'issue'15:37
SlidingHornrealies: regardless, this isn't the place for that.15:38
realiessorry for discussing in your official channel guys, i'll make sure i only complaint about broken stuff in the future without discussing15:38
BluesKajrealies, frankly I don'think the community gives a damn15:38
jmgb4So is there an easy way to upgrade the kernel from 4.13? Coffee lake isnt really known until 4.3 I think and theres a couple of flags I think I need for kvm15:39
pragmaticenigmawhere are service startup scripts stored in 16.0415:41
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gareppasome packages are set as autoremovable in synaptic (junit, valgrind). how do i set them as non autoremovable?15:44
pragmaticenigmagareppa, what do you mean autoremovable?15:45
gareppasynaptic flags them as safe to remove. i had installed them with the old eclipse. but i do actually use them after having removed eclipse.15:46
pragmaticenigmagareppa, I think you can use the apt-mark tool to change it's status to manual. By marking the package manual, you tell apt that you installed it and it wasn't installed as a dependency of another package Check "man apt-mark"15:51
gareppai just found out it depends on the distro, no biggie, thanks15:53
pragmaticenigmagareppa, what do you mean?15:53
gareppapragmaticenigma, something like this https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=22805315:56
gde33I tried to create a local network share, rebooted then it cant create tmp file15:59
pragmaticenigmagareppa, my suggestion still applies. synaptic is just a gui for aptitude. apt is the command line interface. if you mark the package manual with apt-mark, it will remove the autoremove status from the package15:59
pragmaticenigmagareppa, my suggestion still applies. synaptic is just a gui for aptitude. apt is the command line interface. if you mark the package manual with apt-mark, it will remove the autoremove status from the package15:59
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transhumanapt-mark hold / apt-mark unhold seems to do the trick of preventing a package from being upgraded16:02
pragmaticenigmatranshuman, they were trying to prevent auto uninstall though. They might still want the package to update16:04
transhumanpragmaticenigma, I was doing the following FYI16:10
transhumanwell this statement requires a little "knock on wood" before being found affective but I think I just recovered a system that ran out of hard drive space (after expanding virtual drive) by issuing an init 2 & sudo apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg  -get-selections | grep -w 'install$' | cut -f1) might be helpful for someone else in same situation , recommend a backup or san snapshot  before running it though --even better16:10
transhumanran into a problem with it pragmaticenigma when it got to the apt package it just hangs , no amount of debugging seems to tell me why so its easier to force it to skip reinstalling that package16:10
pragmaticenigmatranshuman, I have no idea what you are saying or attempting to do16:11
transhumanI am recovering a broken system (ran out of space ) reinstalling all packages16:11
tfgbd_When Windows runs out of space, it doesn't break.16:11
pragmaticenigmanot to play grammer cop... but affective should be effective. and a lack of punctuation makes that incredibly hard to read16:12
pragmaticenigma!windows16:12
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents16:12
tfgbd_Sorry, just sayin16:12
pragmaticenigmatfgbd_, personal experience stories may not apply to everyone's experience. Different system configurations can play a big role in how a computer behaves when certain conditions arise.16:13
transhumanthanks for the grammar lesso n pragmaticenigma , but in my case this is a hopeless task, my brain doesn't work so well in that area ...must have been hit on the head as a child :-)16:13
nlsthznOne cannot break that which is already broken...16:13
pragmaticenigmatranshuman, I think the system has bigger issues and I would spend my time backing up critical files and reinstall. I think something bigger is wrong with that installtion16:15
transhumanon that note though, pragmaticenigma, I always thought a built in grammar checker for Hexchat would be a good thing!16:15
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transhumancould be but It has a lot of crap in it and I don't want to do that if I dont have to (I have a backup ) but Its a challenge to see if I can fix it ,I am thinking it has some kind of process lock or permissions problem maybe because it wont start the login service16:17
transhumanpragmaticenigma, my magic command seems to work if I skip that one package ( probably has something to do with the fact that apt cant use apt to install itself)16:20
gogetaTransfusion, did anyone suggest apt-get -f install it can recover from a broken package16:20
transhumangogeta, tried that16:21
pragmaticenigmatranshuman, apt can install itself, but I think with the way that command is being executed it's has an issue.16:21
transhumanok good to know16:22
transhumansomething like it cant link the process or to the command or something perhaps pragmaticenigma ?16:22
gogetatranshuman, are you missing a repo or something16:23
gogetatranshuman, that can make apt-get freak out16:23
pragmaticenigmatranshuman, I'll put it this way. I like to think of aptitude as a self cleaning oven. It's able to manage a lot of things on it's own. If it's not able to use it's built in tool kit to fix things, it's better to cut losses early and start fresh16:24
pragmaticenigmatranshuman, that magical incantation might fix some of it. But it could also be masquerading other issues with all the pipes16:25
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realieshttps://dpaste.de/sS7A/raw16:26
realieshow to fix16:26
transhumanthanks pragmaticenigma16:27
gde33I get it now... local network share initially doesn't work but helpfully installs something that uhh after reboot also doesn't work. Then one sets a password using cli. Manually install system-config-samba which also doesn't work. and then one attempts to create an empty libuser.conf using the cli as nautilus wont allow such things. 2 days later you get to access a folder.16:27
realieslibqt5-default is installed16:27
gde33bah16:27
gogetagde33, the app may be relying on a old version16:28
gogetagde33, or even a newer version16:28
gogetagde33, check what version you have16:29
oerheksrealies, maybe this works for youtoo: The easiest way to fix this is installing the QT developer package: sudo apt-get install qt5-default16:29
gde33gogeta: it works now, just wanted to vent some frustration.16:29
oerhekshttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/36128645/error-on-execution-version-qt-5-not-found-required-by16:29
gde33gogeta: so many web pages that seem to all offer different approaches :/16:29
realiesoerheks, 17:27 <realies> libqt5-default is installed16:29
realiesi meant qt5-default by libqt5-default16:30
oerheksrealies, oh oke16:30
diegHow can I reinstall the software center in ubuntu 18.04? It is always stuck when installing new software, I think reinstalling will fix it.16:37
oerheksdieg, sudo apt install --reinstall gnome-software # but seek support in #ubuntu+1 until release16:40
mojtabaHello, I have defined a systemd service and I have enabled it using systemd enable serviceName; but when I restart the computer it does not run again, and I have to run systemd start serviceName. Does anybody know what is going on and what should I do?16:40
transhumanpragmaticenigma  found the root of my problem16:41
pikapikaHi16:41
pikapikaI have some questions about upgrading16:41
pragmaticenigmawhat'd that be transhuman16:41
transhumanany idea how to solve failed to start create volatile files and directories?16:41
oerheksi would check remove ~/.local/share/gnome-software too, to lose the cache16:42
pragmaticenigma!ask | pikapika16:42
ubottupikapika: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:42
diegoerheks Thanks, so it's called gnome-software now instead of software-center, I couldn't find that online, thank you.16:42
oerheksdieg, see the 2nd line too, clearing that might fix it without reinstall16:43
diegoerheks, which second line sorry ?16:43
pragmaticenigmatranshuman, that might be an indicator you're still low on drive space16:44
pikapikaAs in upgrading entire OS version. 1. Will upgrading reinstall "default" apps. The route I went was: started with the default Ubuntu, found the gui unsuitable for me, so I installed xfce and removed everything gnome. I have removed some other defaults too. 2. Does it preserve the settings in etc and home folder? If not does it just touch the files relevant for update, or does it delete etc and ~/.xyz folders and rewrite them? Since this might cause16:45
pikapikaproblems with 3rd party apps. 3. What happens to apps I installed via other means such as compiling or unzipping to a folder and adding to path?16:45
diegOh right, removing cache16:45
diegwill do!16:45
oerheksdieg, >> i would check remove ~/.local/share/gnome-software too, to lose the cache16:45
diegWill try that, thanks16:45
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pragmaticenigmapikapika, how are you doing this "upgrade"16:46
pikapikaLets say via the apt16:46
pragmaticenigmapikapika, an upgrade through apt will only upgrade applications that have newer versions in the new version of Ubuntu. If an application hasn't had any updates since the previous release, it will remain as is.16:48
pixdamixcan you change where a program pulls its config files from with like a symlink or something if the program does not have that option?16:48
pikapikapragmaticenigma, no I mean full distro upgrade. As in like 16.04 to 17.xxx16:48
pragmaticenigmapikapika, that's what I'm referring to16:48
pikapikaOh, so its not much different from normal software upgrade via apt16:49
pikapika?16:49
miguel2018how do I run ifup or down when the command says my nic name is not valid but it is. I haven't try changing the name of the nic16:49
miguel2018it looks like a bug to me16:49
miguel2018the name of my nick is enp2s016:50
miguel2018its fastethernet16:50
pragmaticenigmapikapika, yes, that is how the upgrade is performed.. there are differences though16:50
pikapikaWhere can I read fully about this process and where is it announced about potential problems and modifications one might have to do after a dist upgrade?16:52
miguel2018ifup tells me unknown interface how to solve the bug16:52
pragmaticenigmapikapika, generally during the upgrade process you will be informed of potential breakages before applying the changes. to the best of the ability of the upgrade tool. there isn't a single source for potential problems.16:53
pragmaticenigmamiguel2018, can you pastebin the command plus it's output to pastebin.ubuntu.com?16:54
ducassepikapika: common issues will be mentioned in the release notes16:54
ducassemiguel2018: also pastebin /etc/network/interfaces, please16:55
pikapikaJust to make sure again pragmaticenigma, are you referring the type of upgrade that changes the OS version and not the normal 'apt update' that updates everything from sources.list but keeps os version constant?16:55
pragmaticenigmapikapika, yes16:56
pikapika*'apt upgrade'16:56
pikapikaOk, thanks for the help then16:56
pixdamixcan you change where a program pulls its config files from with like a symlink or something if the program does not have that option?16:57
pragmaticenigma!details | pixdamix, what are you trying to do? what application? :16:59
ubottupixdamix, what are you trying to do? what application? :: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.16:59
quartieHello everyone! This is my first time connecting to this channel (new to irssi)16:59
pixdamixi just said you want me to cut and past again or you want to learn to read and come back?17:00
oerhekspixdamix, symlink it perhaps? ln -s /path/to/file /path/to/symlink17:00
pixdamixwhat else you want to know?17:00
ducassepixdamix: drop that attitude if you want help here, please17:01
pixdamixi tried that but it did not transfer over to the new location17:01
pixdamixim saying if you can't read what you want me to do17:01
SlidingHornpixdamix: hence why we would like more information...what application are you trying to change, and why?17:01
SlidingHornit matters.17:01
BraliHello! I attempted to do an dual-boot installation. I have W10 on one SSD drive and I then installed ubuntu on another, physical, SSD drive. After the installation I cannot get to windows, not even by overriding boot priority from BIOS. Any ideas?17:02
pixdamixSlidingHorn: doesnt matter because i want to do it on more than one..why still does not matter but since you want to be nosey i have a more private folder i would rather have the files in.17:02
BluesKajwhoa, do you expect help with that attitude ? Well, good luck to you pixdamix17:02
pixdamixany other un-useful questions people want to ask?17:02
SlidingHornpixdamix: if you're unwilling to provide relevant information, then good luck.17:03
ducasse*plonk*17:03
pixdamixthats not revelant and I answere both of them lmao17:03
pragmaticenigmayep... we're done pixdamix ... help is a two way street17:03
BraliSince pix left, maybe someone could help me? I would be very happy if anyone could help me solve my problem17:04
pragmaticenigma!patience | Brali17:05
gogetaBrali, just got back dunno whats wrong17:05
ubottuBrali: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/17:05
SlidingHornBrali: does the GRUB menu not show your Windows installation?  What exactly happens when you select it?17:05
nbags_im back disconnection..the questions you are asking does not help in answsering it..you just trying to be nosey17:06
nbags_if you don't know something dont ask a bunch of questions cause clearly you dont know17:06
BluesKajBrali,, run sudo os-prober then sudo update-grub17:06
nbags_SlidingHorn:17:06
nbags_I even answered SlidingHorn's stupid questions what kind of shit room is this17:07
pragmaticenigma!ohmy | nbags_17:07
ubottunbags_: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList17:07
nbags_dumb niggas17:07
BluesKajit must be the weekend , the jerks are out in force today ;-)17:07
SlidingHorn!ops | nbags_17:07
ubottunbags_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax17:07
pragmaticenigma!ops | nbags_17:08
nbags_nigass bitches17:08
nbags_niggas be dumb17:08
BraliSlidingHorn: BluesKaj: After installing going sudo apt-get boot-repair and rebooting the system windows showed up in the grub menu, for whatever reason.. Thank you for your responses :)17:10
SlidingHornBrali: glad it worked out for you :)17:11
banyantreeHi Guys, i'm to stupid to activate powerline17:13
banyantreecan somebody help me with that?17:13
pragmaticenigma!details | banyantree17:13
ubottubanyantree: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.17:13
banyantreei just installed powerline via aptitude - but it seems to be configured. i'm using urxvt. I think hardware information is not required, is it?17:15
banyantree*need to be configured17:16
oerheksbanyantree, yes, easy to find > https://askubuntu.com/questions/283908/how-can-i-install-and-use-powerline-plugin --- https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/installing-powerline-as-quickly-as-possible/538117:17
oerheks edit your .bashrc etc etc17:17
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banyantreethx i'll do the tutorial now17:18
ducassebanyantree: http://powerline.readthedocs.io/en/master/usage/shell-prompts.html17:18
MikeRLI wonder if those GNOME shell memory leaks will be fixed in time for 18.04. They look nasty.17:19
MikeRLI cannot believe they would allow memory leaks like that in GNOME for years and not do anything.17:19
pragmaticenigmaMikeRL, please hold discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu-discuss, or #ubuntu+117:19
miguel2018pragmaticenigma: ducasse got the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jDqD7YGNCm17:20
miguel2018:))17:20
oerheksMikeRL, yes they are patched.17:20
miguel2018my outout of ifdown is just unknown interace enp2s017:21
ducassemiguel2018: check that file, it has enp6s0 and em[6s0 - correct those17:22
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MikeRLOh yeah I forgot. I'll head over to the appropriate channel.17:32
miguel2018ducasse: ignore that I manualy typed it on the right laptop it names it coreclty17:34
miguel2018ducasse: everything else is coorrect17:35
ducassemiguel2018: so it has enp2s0, not enp6s0?17:35
superkuhAnyone know how to contact the Canonical people about a problem with archive.canonical.com? I've tried github (https://github.com/canonical-websites/www.canonical.com/issues/261) but they haven't responded in 2 weeks.17:37
superkuhI do not use twitter/facebook/google+.17:37
superkuhI cannot seem to find an email address anywhere. And I've spent at least 30 minutes searching.17:37
miguel2018ducasse: I think I found why is the name wrong17:38
miguel2018it's enp2s017:38
ducassemiguel2018: yes, that's what i was asking17:39
superkuhGuess I'll try webmaster@ubuntu.com again. And if that fails I'll actually call them on monday.17:44
jmgb4Anybody running qemu in uefi? I cant seem to get the vm to boot into anything but the uefi interactive shell17:48
oerhekssuperkuh, i find 91.189.88.15 404 indeed, but ip checker gives 91.189.88.17 for the valid lucid oldreleases repo17:49
superkuholdreleases works fine.17:50
superkuhAnd indeed archive.canonical.com would work fine too if my computer hadn't cached the bad address from the load balancer for the domain.17:50
oerheksyou might post this to add it to the load balancing question17:50
superkuhIt's in there already.17:50
superkuhHIT means those work.17:51
superkuhIt was context showing it's not a problem with my computer or apt.17:51
superkuhBut instead a problem with archive.canonical.com17:51
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docmurI had a LVM Group (vides), that was across three disks.  One of the disks died, how do I, or is it possible, to get the data from that logical volume that's on the other two disks?18:00
miguel2018ducasse: it's solved now thank you so much friend!18:03
slicktuxHello, I need a specific version of gstremer. . . 0.10.36 specifically how can I go about18:03
miguel2013hey18:04
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laptopsintecladohola18:05
lotuspsychje!es | laptopsinteclado18:05
ubottulaptopsinteclado: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:05
laptopsintecladoperdoname hermano18:06
lotuspsychjelaptopsinteclado: only english here mate18:06
CWR|11572Hi all.. any one who can help me with resetting my mouse buttons on Ubuntu... yesterday I was trying to make my mouse on thumb button faster but now my back and forward keys har messed up.. they just scrool up and down18:11
CWR|11572still new at ubuntu/linux18:12
lotuspsychjeCWR|11572: wich ubuntu release are you on mate?18:12
CWR|1157217.1018:12
lotuspsychjeCWR|11572: have you tried gnome-tweak-tool to check mouse settings?18:13
laptopsintecladoI have 1218:13
CWR|11572I upgraded it yesterday.. but now the menu is cooler to look at.. but meny functions are missing18:13
tomreyn!ask | laptopsinteclado18:13
ubottulaptopsinteclado: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:13
CWR|11572no not yet... could not see any thing in the new settings and have tried alot of sites to reset my keys..18:14
lotuspsychje!info gnome-tweak-tool | CWR|1157218:14
ubottuCWR|11572: gnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweak-tool): tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.2.1-1ubuntu1 (artful), package size 200 kB, installed size 1170 kB18:14
CWR|11572ok nice... I'm just installing it now... thanks alot for your help... means alot.. have to go to school tomorrow and it has to work there...18:16
CWR|11572ubottu It dident work.. could not map my keys for the mouse... Do you have other options for me... ?18:21
ubottuCWR|11572: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:21
CWR|11572lol18:21
oerheksCWR|11572, how did you make " mouse on thumb button faster " , what guide did you follow?18:22
CWR|11572oerheks I cant remember... but after I tried that line all my keys on the mouse was fucked... my left mouse was middel mouse and so on..18:23
oerheksgrow up18:24
lotuspsychjeCWR|11572: was it dconf related?18:24
CWR|11572the code that i tried was htis one18:25
CWR|11572logitech_mouse_id=$(xinput | grep "Logitech MX Master" | sed 's/.*id=\([0-9]\+\).*/\1/')18:25
CWR|11572logitech_mouse_id=$(xinput | grep "Logitech MX Master" | sed 's/.*id=\([0-9]\+\).*/\1/')18:25
CWR|11572logitech_mouse_id=$(xinput | grep "Logitech MX Master" | sed 's/.*id=\([0-9]\+\).*/\1/')18:25
lotuspsychjeCWR|11572: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input18:27
nonowi kinda dont like steam or other programs that might look at my hdd for cheats or whatever they look for.18:28
CWR|11572nice... thanks.. is there a way to just reset the mouse keybinding?18:29
CWR|11572back to factory18:29
nonowi think i get a 2nd acc on my pc and encrypt 1 acc18:29
lotuspsychjenonow: whats the relation to ubuntu?18:29
nonow1acc for steam 1 for normal stuff18:29
nonowi am on ubuntu and wanna know if that is a solution18:30
oerheks1 acc as in 1 account?18:31
nonowy18:31
pragmaticenigmanonow, please avoid acronyms and abbreviations. What makes sense to you, may not make sense to others18:31
oerhekshaving cheats is not the issue, they can detect running scripts while logged in @ steam18:32
nonowmy idea is to seperate programs that might look at my hdd to a new account18:33
nonowand have a 2nd account encrypted with work emails etc.18:33
pragmaticenigmanonow, programs, including steam, do not randomly scan your harddrive for files. If they did, it would be making news headlines right now.18:33
nonowi thought some programs might do , windows kinda does and anti cheat software that i knew do18:35
nonowwell they might be not around anymore18:35
pragmaticenigmanonow, windows doesn't do it either. again, you'd be seeing headlines in the news about antics like that.18:36
SlidingHornnonow: they don't scan your HDD - they look at running processes18:36
SlidingHornnonow: as well as any kind of interference with the currently running game18:36
pragmaticenigmanonow, the anticheat detection is done on the game hosts servers. they look for behavior that indicates a human is not present at the computer, or things that a human person would not be able to do in the game18:37
oerhekssure you can make a 2nd account, with an encrypted home18:37
nonowty oerheks18:37
nonowi think it is cleaner18:37
nonowto seperate programms with other license than gpl or bsd to my normal account18:38
nonowi mean a gaming account18:38
oerhekstype 'users' in dash and the tool shows up, Press Unlock in the top right corner and type in your password when prompted., then you can click "add user"18:40
oerheksafter that standard or admin, nice feature18:41
fishcookerafter do $ sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1200 should i restart the networking on 14.04?18:44
fishcookerhow to restart the interface safely18:44
lotuspsychjefishcooker: sudo service network-manager restart18:45
fishcookerlotuspsychje: im on ubuntu server is # ifdown eth0 && ifup eth018:48
lotuspsychjefishcooker: ah, #ubuntu-server to the rescue18:49
laptopsintecladofriend I have a pccardbus usb2.0 card that I can use with no problemas in xubuntu 16.04 in 'text mode' but on ubuntu-server 12.04 it gives errors after connecting a usbdrive to the usbcard pcmcia socket. on xubuntu the drive reads and copies files find there18:53
laptopsintecladothe card is 15 years old18:53
laptopsintecladothe pen drive 5 years18:53
lotuspsychjelaptopsinteclado: ubuntu 12.04 is end of life, unless you pay for ESM?18:54
kostkonlaptopsinteclado, how old is the laptop18:55
olivierHello18:56
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Guest3526Algorithme R.S.A 2048 bits, codage binaire18:57
crimson_kingHi, is this page still relevant for installing the lamp stack? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP19:01
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jmgb4Anybody upgrade to 18 yet? I follow the guide but its still not puling the update19:03
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brainwashjmgb4: wrong guide probably19:03
SlidingHornjmgb4: try #ubuntu+1 for help with the beta19:04
jmgb4SlidingHorn, Didnt even know that channel exist, thank yo19:04
vbotkajmgb4 FWIW, 18.04 will be released April 26th. ATM Beta is available.19:04
jmgb4you*19:04
jmgb4vbotka, Yeah I know that. Want to get things rolling a little early19:04
vbotkajmgb4, you can.19:05
destinydrivenHey guys I'm trying to so a simple sum link like this:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BdG5NTPb5N/    I'm stuck as to why it's not working.19:05
destinydriven$DESTDIR.$DOMAIN exists at the time command is run and would have a value like "demo.example.com"19:06
destinydrivenSym link** darn autocorrect19:08
_KaszpiR_destinydriven  try "$(readlink -e \"$/etc/nginx/sites-availabe/$DESTDIR.$DOMAIN\")" "/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/"19:08
destinydriven_KaszpiR_, ok thanks will do19:08
_KaszpiR_but I'd rahter suggest switchig to somethign like ansible19:09
destinydriven_KaszpiR_, just trying to learn a little bash. But I will look into ansible19:09
destinydriven_KaszpiR_, unfortunately, I'm getting the same error19:12
destinydrivenThis seems so straightforward19:13
_KaszpiR_google bash backslashes or double quote escaping19:13
destinydrivenOk thanks19:14
sere_i made alittle java/groovy script timer that outputs the value and wonder where or what questions i should be asking to import the scripts arg to be used by conky19:17
_KaszpiR_sere_ afair the best idea is to output to file and then read that file in conky19:18
_KaszpiR_or call script directly19:18
sere__KaszpiR_: i can call it just fine its working ok but what im trying to do use the output to configure a lua circle timer.19:20
sere__KaszpiR_: i like the idea of exporting to a file and it should be pretty easy :)19:21
sochi, I'm trying to define a custom keyboard layout, but I can't manage to use alt as a third layer key19:21
sochere is my xkb file: https://pastebin.com/k9TDzp4S19:22
_KaszpiR_sere_ exporting output to file make things a bit simpler, but sometimes makes thing less realitime19:22
socany ideas why pressing alt doesn not have an effect?19:22
_KaszpiR_but then much more resilient to some stupid errors19:22
miguel2013kostkon: the laptop where I can copy is 17 years the one that doesn't is 1519:25
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laptopsintecladohey aim back19:28
laptopsintecladokostkon: it's old can u help me19:28
destinydrivenHow does one manage to keep a working laptop for 17 years19:28
laptopsintecladodestinydriven: they have minor problems is ok tho19:29
destinydrivenBuilt ford tough haha. Not like the "planned obsole"19:29
laptopsintecladoanyway my problem right now is the pcmcia cardbus usb2.0 card I need to get it working on ubuntu server 12.04 is a driver issue19:29
laptopsintecladoit works fine on xubuntu 16.0419:29
destinydrivenPlanned obsolescence laptops of today19:30
laptopsintecladothe faster 1.8bhz p4 does'nmt have a working keyboard I use a ps219:30
laptopsintecladoand the other one overheats so I use a fan underneath19:30
laptopsintecladoand that's it19:31
Pirolocitodestinydriven: :) if you regularly clean the heat dissipator19:31
Pirolocitothe laptop lasts forever19:31
destinydrivenPirolocito, but then there are other components that will ultimately fail.19:31
Pirolocitodestinydriven: if you dont treat the laptop bad it keep working, however from my many years owning laptops, main cause of fail is on hinges, keyboards and sometimes board-screen cable19:33
Pirolocitobatteries are consumables :)19:33
destinydrivenPirolocito, granted.19:34
SlidingHorn!precise | laptopsinteclado19:34
ubottulaptopsinteclado: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) was the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 28th 2017. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2017-April/003833.html for more information19:34
Pirolocitodestinydriven: I remember my first laptop, somewhere around 1996, in 2004 it was still working connected to my main computer via serial cable working as terminal :D19:35
destinydrivenhaha19:36
laptopsintecladoSlidingHorn: is it a driver issue then19:36
SlidingHornlaptopsinteclado: I don't know.  Your version of ubuntu is no longer supported, though.19:36
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Pirolocitowhat does dmesg says about it?19:38
miguel2013Pirolocito: it says it detects it and installs it but different results than on the xubuntu 16.0419:40
Pirolocitois it pcmcia?19:40
miguel2013I don't understnad why it needs a newer ubuntu for an old card to detect it. it is 10 years older than the 12.04 anywqa19:41
miguel2013Pirolocito: yes19:41
SlidingHornmiguel2013: that's not the point. You're running a possibly insecure system, as security updates are no longer provided.19:42
SlidingHornmiguel2013: you should upgrade to a supported version and go from there19:42
Pirolocitowhat is the board19:42
Pirolocito?19:42
miguel2013Pirolocito: intel. it's a fujitsu lifebook e711019:43
SlidingHornmiguel2013: you've already acknowledged that the device works on a newer, supported version.  Why are you insisting on running one that isn't?19:44
sere_miguel2013: 18.04 lts comes out in 3.88 days19:45
miguel2013SlidingHorn: Is just curiosity that's it19:47
SlidingHornmiguel2013: well providing support for an end-of-life release for the sake of someone's curiosity isn't on topic here.19:48
miguel2013SlidingHorn: can I just ask a question?19:49
SlidingHornmiguel2013: is the question on topic for this channel?19:49
flying_sausagesHey guys, I just got a new server and I would just like to install 18.04 already rather than upgrade in a week, is there an image somewhere I can use?19:54
SlidingHorn!bionic | flying_sausages19:54
ubottuflying_sausages: Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+119:54
SlidingHornthere should be a link in there...19:54
flying_sausagesCheers SlidingHorn!19:54
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flying_sausagesAlso, I've never done this before, but how can I install ubuntu while in a generic linux recovery OS?19:55
flying_sausagesssh'd cli only, therefore19:55
sere_flying_sausages:  you can upgrade to 18.04 from the command line. i would wait to do a fresh install /img unless really needed19:55
matlockany experts on snap or snapcraft here? https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapcraft-breaking-over-nested-cmake-not-moving-built-files-into-staging-prime-and-dependency-issues/508419:56
flying_sausagessere_: the OS has been frozen already though, no?19:56
flying_sausagesso you're going to get the same thing that should be available now19:56
matlockI am running into trouble creating a snap for an awesome rss app that's not really available for ubuntu or debian19:56
flying_sausagesor not?19:56
tomreynflying_sausages: #ubuntu+119:57
oerhekswhile in a generic linux recovery OS? .. explain?19:57
flying_sausagestomreyn: is that a channel?19:57
tomreynflying_sausages: yes, please join it for anything 18.04 related19:58
flying_sausagesoerheks: the hosting company ships the box with an OS loaded into ram from their TFTP that should help people installing OSs19:58
flying_sausagesI think it's based on Debian19:58
flying_sausagesyeah it's deb8.1019:59
sere_flying_sausages: not sure..i upgraded a few weeks ago and im very pleased. the upgrade added 2gs for me awell.19:59
flying_sausagessere_: as in install 16.04 now and do a release upgrade, you mean?20:00
oerheksdoes that vendor allow upgrading like that?20:01
flying_sausagesvendor offers some scripts to install OSs but they're fine if you choose your own image20:01
sere_flying_sausages: yea. thats what i did and it used up an additional 2gs.. everyone is working fine but as soon as its released im going to do a clean install20:02
sere_everything20:02
tomreynflying_sausages: if we're tlaking about a dedicated server at hetzner, and one which does not provide KVM, then you have two options: (1) request a 'LARA' (a KVM), which is free for two hours or something, and install that way. (2) install using debootstrap from their recovery system.20:02
flying_sausagestomreyn: hah yes it's a hetzner box20:03
flying_sausagesI'm currently in the second option20:03
tomreynyou could also use their installer but it's nnot very flexible.20:03
flying_sausagestomreyn: yeah that's right, I'd like to split up my /home from my / but the default just takes all disks and does a raid620:04
flying_sausagesI'm still not sure how I can install ubuntu while in the debian rescue without using their scripts though20:06
sere_conky setup with a lts release date countdown https://pasteboard.co/HhQ5b5M.png20:07
jnewtanyone know why nemo would only preview some thumbnails? (details at: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1026723/nemo-doesnt-preview-all-thumbnails-and-its-not-size-related )  If there is a better channel for this, let me know.20:09
tomreynflying_sausages: using debootstrap20:10
flying_sausagescan you possibly refer me to any guide for this if I don't want to use the installimage script?20:11
flying_sausagesI'm having a hard time finding anything, and I can't really insert a USB or a CD or anything20:11
tomreyndebootrap is a package and a command you can run, with --help. there may also be a man page.20:12
tomreynhttps://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/powerpc/apds04.html20:12
tomreynit's not the best / cleanest way to install, i'd personally prefer the KVM one. but it works, too.20:13
flying_sausagestomreyn: what would be the kvm path?20:13
flying_sausagescan I load up an ISO using their java applet?20:13
tomreynyes20:14
flying_sausageslet's just hope I can load it up from external sources...20:14
tomreynthere is also #hetzner for anything specific to them20:14
flying_sausagescheers, I know of the room but I've mostly seen it dead20:14
flying_sausagesI'll resort to the standard install now and if it all goes south I guess you'll be seeing more of me ha20:15
oerheks:-)20:15
flying_sausagesis it even worth having a separated /boot and / these days?20:15
flying_sausagesor raid if I have 16GB of RAM?20:16
oerheks18.04 would even give a swapfile nowadays, so no.20:16
jnewtanyone know why I can't open files with libreoffice from network locations shared by samba?   no problems with windows (mostly .xlsx files).  copying to local and then opening works fine. error is something like "basic input / output error"20:17
tomreynseparate /boot and / still makes sense in a couple scenarios20:17
oerheksopening files to edit over samba, or even indexing with thumbnails, are a drag, and not only on linux20:18
flying_sausagesjnewt: oerheks is right, even on windows20:19
flying_sausagesjnewt: what machine is the samba from?20:19
oerheksjnewt, please keep on cross posting20:20
oerheks:-(20:20
jnewtflying_sausages, it's running freebsd, you want hardware specs?  I have zero issues with windows clients, no complaints of slow loading.  I've tried myself and it seems fine.20:21
tomreynhttps://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/118967/how-can-i-get-libreoffice-to-open-files-over-a-windowssamba-connection-with-a-runusr1000gvfs-path/20:21
tomreynmight help20:21
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jnewtoerheks, no problem, and you just keep minding your own business.20:22
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jnewttomreyn, ooh, that may actually be my issue.  I'm going to try the suggestions in there.  Thanks!20:23
microshello. i am trying to compile PCRE (cross compile for ARM) but the make file is complaining that the 'me tool' is not present.  Anyone know what that tool is?  Its name is too vague and generates so many google / apt-cache results.  thanks.20:24
microsfrom the make file: "echo "To configure ${NAME}, the \"me\" tool is required. You can continue with a" >&2"20:25
microsand goes on to say you can use a default configuration with make if its not available.20:25
TJ-micros: are you building the Ubuntu package? It's build-depends are only debian tooling20:27
microsim just building pcre20:27
microsMy approach was/is:  ./configure --enable-libmount=no --cache-file=arm-linux.cache --build=x86-64-linux-gnu --host=arm-linux --target=arm-linux --prefix=/home/developer/pcre_out --with-pcre=system && make20:28
microswhich generates that error20:28
tomreynthere's #perl20:28
microsthanks ill try there20:31
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FishPencilHow do I start a command over SSH that will continue running after the session has ended?20:48
hggdhFishPencil: use nohup and end the line with a '&', like "nohup run-for-a-long-time &"20:53
hggdhFishPencil: or use byobu, or screen, or tmux to keep the console open20:54
FishPencilIs there a way to take back control of a nohup started command?20:57
FishPencilFor example, if I SSHed, ran the command, quit SSH, came back later and wanted to bring it back up20:58
oerheksFishPencil, easyt, type 'jobs',, and choose the one: fg %1 or fg %2 .. https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/05/unix-background-job/21:00
oerheksc/easy21:00
turbo64https://pastebin.com/b1qjw5Ee21:01
oerheks!ot > turbo6421:02
ubottuturbo64, please see my private message21:02
CryptoSiDI created a crontab with the following "@daily cd /home/EaseUS/SID-BEAST/Win10-x64 ; rm `ls -t | awk 'NR<2'`" but for an unknow reason it's not working21:02
CryptoSiDI'm not even seing the crontab being run in the syslogs21:02
CryptoSiDcronjob*21:02
CryptoSiDI don't understand why?21:03
FishPenciloerheks: Does Ctrl+Z keep it running after a logout?21:05
oerheksFishPencil, i think you do need nohub for that21:05
yeatsFishPencil: another approach is to run the command within 'screen'21:09
FishPencilI think I might do that21:10
FishPencilIs tmux or screen "better"?21:10
Midoshi27Question: does having a long iptables file slow down the firewall? I have numerous entries in my iptables --list since I'm using fail2ban and permabanning IP addresses that fail a login.21:10
yeatsFishPencil: I've only used screen and find it sufficient - others may be able to make a case for one over the other21:11
FishPencilSo basically do I open screen, run the command, exit screen, and reconnect to screen later and my command will still be there?21:12
miguel2013yo21:12
yeatsFishPencil: right21:13
SlidingHornhi miguel2013 - did you upgrade your server to a supported version?21:13
yeatsactually, I'm chatting from an irrsi session within screen right now21:13
miguel2013what are the services and programs needed to be restarted for gnu libc library when doing a do-osrelease-upgrade :))21:13
yeatsI just reattach it after logging in21:13
FishPencilyeats: just a "screen" command right?21:14
yeatsFishPencil: right21:14
yeatsFishPencil: you can do 'screen -S <screenname>' too if you want multiple screens at once21:14
flying_sausageshey again, what exactly is the HWE option when installing LTS?21:15
oerheks_!hwe21:15
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack21:15
oerheks_you perform that after install, not during21:15
yeatsFishPencil: 'Ctrl-A D' to detach, and I use 'screen -RaAd' to reattach (man page shows what the options are)21:16
yeatsFishPencil: 'screen -ls' will list what screens are available21:16
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i-make-robotsI have a 16.04 dvd, a nearly full /dev/sda1, and network.  how do i correctly run the rescue process to fsck /dev/sda1?21:23
i-make-robotsi have options to shell into sda5, which i think is a different partition on the same drive?  not sure.21:23
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designbybeck3WOrking on an older Dell machine, We had Ubuntu 16.04 64bit on there, but it had been running slow. So I installed Ubuntu Mate 17.10 32bit. My question is Does running a 64bit system on an older machine make it slower? Debating on install the 64bit of Ubuntu Mate21:33
brainwashdesignbybeck3: how old? what are the specs?21:37
designbybeck3dell 755 optiplex?21:37
designbybeck32GB RAM21:37
designbybeck3brainwash: what is a good way to check the CPU in Linux?21:38
oerhekslscpu21:39
designbybeck3Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E7200  @ 2.53GHz21:39
designbybeck3thanks oerheks didn't know you could just do that21:39
oerhekshostnamectl status #gives nice info too21:39
miguel2013what are the services and programs needed to be restarted for gnu libc library when doing a do-osrelease-upgrade :))21:39
miguel2013is it recomended to do osupgrade or install from scratch21:40
brainwashdesignbybeck3: does the current installation run slow also?21:40
designbybeck3no brainwash this Ubuntu Mate 17.10 32bit is running much better than the other install of Ubuntu 16.04 64bit21:41
designbybeck3Just had one program I was going to install but it doesn't have a 32bit download21:41
designbybeck3my buddy is an artist and he uses this computer for reference images so I was going to get him: https://www.pureref.com/download.php but on 32bit21:41
brainwashit's possible that is runs better due to being a newer ubuntu release21:42
designbybeck3was thinking that as well brainwash. I might jsut go ahead and reinstall on it, doesn't take that long21:43
Ben64more likely is that it uses a simpler desktop21:43
Ben64keep in mind that 17.10 loses support in 3 months21:43
ash_guestis there a standard why people keep track of their software installs? like, maybe just a script with all the additional repos and just an apt-get install ... \ ?21:44
brainwashash_guest: maybe apt-clone21:47
adalbertash_guest: dpkg -l > installed.txt (that's how I keep track)21:47
oerheksadalbert, +121:47
oerhekshttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3b9SMtHdNJ/21:48
ash_guestI see, so there's not like a goto file you generally don't touch but sometimes update to get your most standard application / configurations?21:48
oerheksjups, plus any new edition comes with their own special additions.21:49
oerhekssome keep complete programming lists, or gaming stuff21:49
oerhekslibraries, manuals21:50
ash_guestis there anything I need to beware of when reinstalling from usb? I mean, what I'm reinstalling over uses secure boot so... I'm not going to end up with 2 partitions with 2 OSes am I?21:52
Battlehello all21:52
Battlecouple of questions, i have a game server that has very little commands in the ways of admin, we cant even see IPs of those connected, which makes banning people very difficult. at present, the only way we can do this is by the offender being online at the time I am there, 'iftop', sift through IPs and manually blocking each one until i find the one that is for the offender...21:53
oerheksash_guest, the installer gives various options, including whipe whole hdd and start over again.21:53
oerheksor replace existing install, etc etc21:54
Battlenaturally this is far from ideal.... does anyone know of a way that I could perhaps 'log' packets of those joining the server in a readable text that would allow me to see the ips in a much easier way?21:54
Ben64Battle: not easily. what game is it21:55
Battlea game called 'Eco'21:55
michael2hi, I have a 32G USB, and I want convert it into a bootable live/installer. The installer only requires 1-2Gig. Is it possible to use the remaining 30 Gigs on the USB?21:55
Battleit uses 'mono' to run21:55
Battleunity based game21:55
Ben64should talk to the devs21:56
sere_Battle: you could you use cli wireshark to get the packets and then format text to a pretty print and then output to file21:58
adalbertmichael, using Rufus, it is possible to add data to the live installer usb disk22:00
adalbertmichael2, using Rufus, it is possible to add data to the live installer usb disks22:00
sere_michael2: fat32 max filesystem storage is 4g so it would be useless to go over that.. i believe would you want is to put your squashfs on a extern or different filesystem ext3 or ext422:01
BattleBen64: the devs are more focused on other things....we dont even have an unban command, administrative side is lacking quite hugely adn people have requested certain tools but their response is "oh well.... life sucks" pertty much.. lol22:02
FishPencil_So I changed my /etc/network/interfaces file to https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dgC3HSDQzM/ to assign a static ip, but now I have no connection outside. I can connect within the local network though22:02
Battlesere_ is it easy-ish to do what you suggested?22:02
Battleim not an elite  XD22:02
FishPencil_woops that gateway looks wrong22:03
adalbertFishPencil_: you're gateway is the same ip ...22:03
FishPencil_Just noticed it22:03
oerheksBattle, as it is mono, that makes it much more complicated too22:03
oerhekssparse server indeed https://eco.gamepedia.com/Setting_Up_a_Server22:04
FishPencil_Do I need a dns-nameservers entry for static assignment?22:05
oerheksor https://eco.gamepedia.com/Setting_Up_a_Server_(advanced) gives some hope ..22:06
sere_Battle: it would take some coding and im not sure if it would be ideal to use wireshark.. it uses alot of resources. a lite packet sniffer would be ideal22:06
sere_Battle: for now you could just block that ips game ports22:09
Battleyeah im blocking them as i find them22:10
Battlebut its hard22:10
sere_Battle: to find or block?22:10
Battlefind22:10
adalbertFishPencil_: Yes you must assign dns servers.22:11
Midoshi27Question: does having a long iptables file slow down the firewall? I have numerous entries in my iptables --list since I'm using fail2ban and permabanning IP addresses that fail a login.22:14
oerheksThe theoretical upper limit of maximum number of rules for a 32-bit environment would be somewhere around 38 million ... https://serverfault.com/questions/479549/how-many-rules-can-iptables-support22:16
Midoshi27Oh wow, that's a huge amount. I'm not so worried now, I only have about 100 and some records22:17
Midoshi27thanks oerheks22:17
michael2adalbert: thanks for the tip about rufus. thats not a program im familiar with would require research and training for me to learn it22:17
sere_Battle: if your really invested you could write a algorithm that finds the negative behaviours22:18
oerheksin those comments you can find '25K rules'22:19
michael2Midoshi27: I have loaded about 5000 permanently banned addresses in iptables without problems.22:20
michael2If you go above that there is a kernel module for doing filtering of large numbers of ip addresses more efficiently22:21
Midoshi27michael2: I will keep an eye on it, if it ever does get all that large I'll manage it then.22:21
miguel2013hey friend22:22
themoonisshiningis 14.04 trusty the latest for ubuntu server?22:23
Ben64no22:24
tgm4883themoonisshining: Ubuntu server has a release every ubuntu release22:24
themoonisshiningdoes it have support22:24
Ben64until next year22:24
tgm4883!trusty22:24
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ - CHECK FOR POINT RELEASES at http://releases.ubuntu.com - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes22:24
tgm4883looks like it22:24
Ben6418.04 comes out this week22:24
themoonisshiningok friend I have a question22:24
themoonisshiningcool22:24
themoonisshininghey so I want to install a pcmcia support for it22:25
themoonisshininglike xubuntu 16.04 has22:25
Ben64why not use 16.0422:25
themoonisshiningI still can't copy files from usb drive on ubuntu server even after upgrading to 14.0422:25
themoonisshiningit didn't do that far22:25
miguel2013Ben64: I may have to install xubuntu 16 on it too then22:27
miguel2013I grabed my laptop by the center and it crashed22:29
miguel2013i reboted i handle it again and it crashed again22:29
FishPencilIs the firewall enabled by default on Ubuntu server?22:32
Midoshi27FishPencil: Yes, but you have to define what you allow and block22:33
miguel2013ok I'm upgrading to 16.0422:34
miguel2013it gave me that option now22:34
miguel2013it should tecnicaly work correct? like xubuntu 16.0422:35
miguel2013what if it doesn't then is a hardware issue?22:35
Midoshi27miguel2013: you should back up before you do that22:35
miguel2013Midoshi27: my /home is on another partition22:35
miguel2013no worries22:35
Midoshi27should be fine then, but there might be complications after the backup22:36
Midoshi27after the install**22:36
miguel2013I'm looking for apps that do sync and backup too haven't done research on it yet I have unorganized backups on removable22:37
miguel2013are u all americans22:53
* NaTeK squints22:53
miguel2013walk with me22:53
oerheksmiguel2013, no, this is the international support room, but we do speak english :-D22:53
oerheks!info grsync22:55
ubottugrsync (source: grsync): GTK+ frontend for rsync. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-1 (artful), package size 134 kB, installed size 600 kB22:55
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_DejavuHello community, iI'm trying to install package thru pip but get syntax error. Could anyone take a look? https://pastebin.com/dcm6Yy1e23:13
oerheks_Dejavu, i think you want pip3, like this tutor https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-django-and-set-up-a-development-environment-on-ubuntu-16-0423:16
oerhekshttps://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-install-django-on-ubuntu/23:16
_Dejavuthank you oerheks let me try23:17
oerheksthe 2nd one might be more clear23:19
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DanXBjoin23:38
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matlockis anyone here really good with making snaps? I've run into an issue with this one, would bring a nice rss readehttps://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapcraft-breaking-over-nested-cmake-not-moving-built-files-into-staging-prime-and-dependency-issues/5084r to ubuntu easily:23:47
matlockhttps://github.com/sirredbeard/FeedReader/blob/master/snap/snapcraft.yaml23:48

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