[00:11] Hi everyone. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 on a Dell XPS 15 4K screen. To properly see the text and icons I have my screen % set to 200%, this works fine for most things, however when I use Burp Suite (a java program) the whole thing is so small I can read the text etc. What can I do to remedy this? [00:12] wow, you got me on that one. [00:13] strazak, :) [00:15] In that application itself, in the user options, I can set the font size to 40, however nothing changes [00:24] cuchulaind, try --force-device-scale-factor=2 [00:27] heya all [00:28] my keyboard layout is US English (IBM Arabic 238_L) [00:29] is there a way to install it to ubuntu without manually mapping the keys one by one? [00:30] cuddlesecks, are you installing ubuntu for the first time? or this is a new keyboard on an existing installation? [00:33] I've installed ubuntu using this keyboard. few keys were off compared to the English(US), but it wasn't that bad [00:33] I managed [00:34] , I don't want to keep using the en us layout though. [00:36] cuddlesecks, this is for Ubuntu? Which version? [00:36] 16.04 [00:36] sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration [00:36] Hi [00:37] hi yaxxino [00:38] can someone tell me whats the command to display log folder ditails like in this one here https://askubuntu.com/questions/863995/my-var-log-folder-is-taking-too-much-space [00:38] yaxxino: ls -l /var/log [00:38] cuddlesecks, you can use what tomreyn just suggested or in your apps find System Settings => "Text Entry" and add the new layout there and remove the English US [00:39] yaxxino: you may want to run it with sudo in case it returns error messages. [00:39] tomreyn, the command shows a list of all the preinstalled models [00:39] localectl list-x11-keymap-models [00:39] cuddlesecks, scratch the "Text Entry" area... go to the Keyboard settings in System Settings [00:39] this does the same [00:39] the problem is, my layout isn't there to begin with [00:40] * pragmaticenigma or i don't know how to do it in the GUI... CLI is best for me too [00:41] cuddlesecks, look for Arabic 101, Arabic 102, or Arabic 102 Azerty [00:43] nope, no 102's there. That would've solved half the problem but oh well [00:43] Yesterday I bought a seagate external drive for backup. I plugged it in and ubuntu found it. I started copying my homedir across before I went to bed. In the morning I discover that the drive can't be accessed. [00:44] I unplugged it and plugged it back in. When I try to navigate it using gnomes version of explorer I get the message "unable to access 'Seagate Expansion Drive'" [00:45] tomreyn: thank you, this is my output https://pastebin.com/FGNidhNz can you tell which file to delete to free space from my var folder and whats the command line to do that. thanks again [00:45] There's a longer message, but gnome won't let me copy and paste text from the dialogue [00:45] cuddlesecks, sorry, I was expecting those options tomreyn provided to be like the keyboard selection during install [00:46] basically I just want to plugin in an external hard drive via usb and copy stuff to it. How does one do this with ubuntu? [00:46] bobdobbs, Do your files have anything other than ASCII characters in them (possibly unicode for non-english based characters)? [00:46] yeah, I wish to know if there's a package to install or something similar to add a new layout [00:47] bobdobbbs: Is it usb2 or usb3? [00:47] otherwise, is manual keymapping the only way? because that'd suck [00:47] pragmaticenigma: maybe some of them do. Like my music folder is full of non-text files [00:47] boblamont: I don't know [00:48] cuddlesecks, I found the perfect tutorial, but it's from 2010 :-( a much older version of gnome [00:49] bobdobbs, file contents doesn't matter but file names do... I'm assuming the drive is formatted in NTFS, which doesn't have very good support for file names outside of the standard ASCII character set or files that contain reserved characters [00:49] bobdobbs, did you format it? if so, what file system did you use? [00:49] pragmaticenigma, do share, might help me get ideas [00:49] cuddlesecks: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17508/add-keyboard-input-language-to-ubuntu/ [00:50] dabba: I didn't format it. I didn't think I had to: when I plugged it in for the first time it just worked. I could see the contents [00:50] cuddlesecks, I think I was on the right trail with "System Settings" => "Text Entry" [00:50] "System Settings" => "Text Entry" [00:51] that was the first attempt for me [00:51] bobdobbs, my guess is it probably shipped with NTFS, if you don't need windows support maybe try reformatting the partition on it to ext4? [00:51] bad file names shouldn't stop it from mounting the drive though, [00:51] like i said, it's not listed in the layout list [00:51] cuddlesecks, in there you can add Arabic as an input source. When you've added the layout, there is a keyboard icon to check the layout on screen [00:51] dabba: I guess it doesn't do any harm to format it now [00:52] which shows a wrong layout, trust me I've tried them all [00:52] all the options for both arabic and english [00:52] bobdobbs, thats what i'm thinking, if you were copying and not moving the contents, as in not losing data. might play nicer with a native linux filesystem [00:52] bobdobbs, it can corrupt the FAT, which is needed to mount NTFS volumes [00:52] pragmaticenigma: damn [00:52] I know exactly what my layout name is, I'm just wondering where can I fetch and install it [00:53] if it's even possible [00:53] pragmaticenigma: so, what's the safest possible way of making the drive accessible [00:53] US English (IBM Arabic 238_L), this is my layout [00:54] cuddlesecks, just to verify, this doesn't work for you? https://askubuntu.com/a/298752 [00:54] <> signs top left [00:54] 1 sec [00:55] bobdobbs, since it is brand new. I'd start with a format. Two options here. If the drive is only for Linux, you can format it in Ext4 and copy to your hearts content. If you want acces via Windows, then format it (preferably with a windows machine) to NTFS to reset it. [00:55] bobdobbs, it's also possible that a windows machine might be able to repair the drive [00:55] bobdobbs, without needing to format it... when you plug it into windows, it will want to do a check disk [00:55] How are you supposed to set the root password for mardiadb? It did not ask for one when installed. [00:56] pragmaticenigma: what about FAT32? If I use that, will the drive be accessible to both windows and linux? [00:56] pragmaticenigma, haha I swear I understand the option you're pointing me to my friend. Again, I've tried every arabic and english keyboard layout on that list and previewed them all. No, mine's not there. Yes, this was the first thing I've tried [00:56] sigilbaram, run cmd: mysql_secure_installation [00:56] sigilbaram, this should help you "reset" the mariadb password: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-reset-your-mysql-or-mariadb-root-password [00:57] you want to run mysql_secure_installation after install mariadb to secure it ;) [00:57] dabba: No. That just says it changes the password. It still refuses to let me log in afterwards. [00:57] bobdobbs, find out if it is ntfs of exfat or fat32 or ext3/4 [00:57] oerheks: how do I do that? [00:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting [00:57] thanks [00:57] bobdobbs, FAT32 has a size limit, I'm assuming this is a terabyte sized drive [00:58] pragmaticenigma: oh yeah. 2 terabytes [00:58] hmm, that script always works for me... after running it I can login to root as you would any mysqldb [00:58] dabba, one needs to know the root password for the script to be able to run [00:58] not the first time pragmaticenigma [00:59] pragmaticenigma, the root passwd for mysql/maria [00:59] he said it didn't ask on install (which it doesn't) [01:00] bobdobbs, exfat does work for both windows and linux. though it still doesn't help with non-ascii file names [01:00] pragmaticenigma: when I run mysqld_safe it exits immediately. [01:01] pragmaticenigma: thanks [01:02] oh. the gnome shell gives me an option for format the drive! [01:02] oh wait it worked this time? @.@ [01:03] I just plugged in an external DVD/CD drive to rip a CD, but it isn't showing up. I tried lsusb, but it froze until I unplugged the USB cable from the drive, then it listed the rest of the USB stuff. Is there something that can show me what happens when I plug/unplug it? [01:04] boblamont, dmesg should show you device related events [01:04] boblamont, you can look at /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg [01:04] thanks both of you, I'll take a look [01:05] boblamont, also might want to try a different cable? [01:10] pragmaticenigma: "You are using MariaDB as an anonymous user and anonymous users are not allowed to change passwords". [01:10] This after logging in as root... :\ [01:11] Hell! [01:11] Someone went sooooooooooo far out of their way trying to secure this package that I can't even set it up. :\ [01:11] sigilbaram, the only thing I know is I've used that tutorial with MySQl when I didn't have or didn't know the root password to MySQL. [01:11] Hello, i meant [01:13] pragmaticenigma: I've done these things before. I know that should work, but they aren't with this particular installation, which is brand new. T.T [01:13] whenever i setup mariadb, i install it, run the secure installation script, and login works fine with mysql -u root -p [01:14] dabba, "works for me" type statements aren't helpful. sigilbaram tried that and it didn't appear to work [01:15] I even deleted /var/lib/mysql and did mysql_install_db. [01:16] sigilbaram, isn't there usually a file somewhere that holds the root password. I know I create one for my own user so I don't have to type the password for automatted scripts [01:16] mysql_secure_installation says it changes the password, but it doesn't ACTUALLY change it. [01:16] is mysql_secure_installation even finding mariadb? [01:16] I'm new to Linux. Any tips? What to do for instance? [01:16] if that script isn't changing the password, i'm thinking there is a problem with the install and you might want to apt --purge it and reinstall [01:17] Do i need to learn the terminal? [01:17] sudo mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf [01:17] This logs in but still doesn't seem to let me change the password [01:18] sky887, nope, you can use Ubuntu without ever touching the terminal. [01:18] sky887, Your question is very broad, if there was a specific task you needed to complete and were unsure how to do it. It would help if you asked that specific question [01:20] pragmaticenigma, ok. Thanks! But what is the difference between Linux and Windows? [01:21] ##windows has no trolls [01:21] :) [01:21] I find that I like Linux too [01:21] what a question [01:22] Hehe tell me in short [01:22] disable your mouse and go tty https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [01:23] OK lol [01:23] I'm gonna hang around here and maybe learn a thing or two! :-) [01:24] sky887, that's one of the best ways to learn [01:24] sure a good start [01:24] sky887, just be careful of commands given to you on the web. Do not try anything you're unfamiliar with. If someone is giving you a command to use, ask them to explain the command and what to expect. [01:25] sky887, also, search the web for some of those commands. and look for second opinions. [01:25] Yep messed up an installation previously because of that [01:25] dabba I did apt-get purge off mariadb-* and mysql-common. removed /etc/mysql and /var/lib/mysql. apt-get intall mariadb-server. mysql_secure_install. Same issue. Doesn't actually set the password. T.T [01:26] sky887, In this room especially, there are unfortunately individuals that will suggest something that is malicious. Others usually will quickly respond to bad commands [01:26] Lol! [01:26] OK [01:27] sky887, watching this room you will quickly pick up the knowledge experts [01:28] pragmaticenigma, I'm assuming you are one! [01:28] sigilbaram, the secure install script completes successfully? any messages out of the ordinary? do you select any options other than the defaults? [01:29] sigilbaram, also which version of ubuntu? my mariadb experience is with ubuntu 16.04 [01:30] dabba, Password updated successfully!; Reloading privilege tables ... Success! [01:30] This is 16.04 [01:30] are you using the ubuntu repository or the official mariadb respository? [01:31] The only respository I added was ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test [01:31] pragmaticenigma, i thinking learning coding a little bit too [01:31] I've got good resources [01:32] systemctl status mariadb looks good? [01:32] *I'm [01:32] sky887 I found this pdf several years ago.. it's a good primer on terminal. >>> http://www.linuxzasve.com/preuzimanje/TLCL-09.12.pdf [01:33] sigilbaram, do you have mariadb-client installed also? [01:33] Tin_man Thanks! [01:33] np [01:34] I'll check it out [01:35] Hm.. i won't download. [01:36] dabba, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TQkRV4tWZh/ [01:36] I'll Google though! Great tip! [01:37] And yeah when I installed mariadb-server it pulled in mariadb-client and mysql-common [01:37] sigilbaram, that looks useful [01:38] sigilbaram, what authentication plugin are you using? [01:38] sky887, if you using firefox at the top of the document on the right side you see a printer and a down arrow press the down arrow, and it will download [01:39] Tin_man sorry. I won't [01:39] dabba, I don't even know what that is... [01:39] do you login when you just do mysql -u root? [01:40] dabba, no it says access denied. [01:40] i doubt you want to print it out, it's 522 pages.. better to download. and leisurely read it with a pdf reader [01:40] dabba Oh if I use sudo it works. [01:40] sigilbaram, https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/authentication-plugin-unix-socket/ [01:41] sigilbaram, bottom of that article has steps to switch to password auth if you need it [01:42] dabba Wait so this makes it so that local users can connect to their mysql account without a password? [01:43] yeah, digging a little more on the docs it looks like this is enabled by default on debian versions (but shouldn't be on ubuntu) which is weird [01:44] well wait you aren't using the official repo [01:44] so if you had used the official repo the plugin wouldn't have been enabled by default (and the password would've worked from the start) [01:44] but the debain/ubuntu packages have this enabled at install [01:44] Any good casual chat channels? [01:44] hi guys, may i know does anyone here has configure their own wifi on ubuntu before? such as recompile the driver so on and forth? I have look through some of the helpful pages posted on ubuntu forum but it wasn't able to solve my problem. [01:44] sky887, #ubuntu-offtopic :) [01:45] Thanks [01:45] The ppa I'm using is just things like gcc and g++? That shouldn't have messed with mariadb? [01:46] Cannot join it dabba [01:46] no what i'm saying is if you add the official repos for mariadb, the unix socket authentication plugin would not be enabled [01:47] Ooooh I thought you meant the official ubuntu repos. [01:47] apologies for the confusion sigilbaram [01:47] Any others? [01:47] i'm using a wifi dongle with Ralink 5370 chipset [01:47] !alis | sky887 [01:47] sky887: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [01:48] dabba No problem. This is actually kind of a neat feature. I don't mind it now that I know why passwords weren't working. Makes importing stuff easier. xD [01:49] sigilbaram, yeah I had used the official packages so I didn't even realize this plugin existed. seems useful. glad we got to the bottom of it! [01:49] *official mariadb packages* :P [01:50] Thanks for the help figuring out what was going on. xD [01:50] sky887, to join other rooms you will need to register your nick with freenode [01:50] !register | sky887 [01:50] sky887: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode. [01:51] sigilbaram, I had to step away... what ended up being the trouble spot? [01:52] pragmaticenigma: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/authentication-plugin-unix-socket/ [01:53] lets users logged into the system use their mysql account without needing passwords, but removes password functionality. [01:57] Thanks! [01:58] hello friends, i try to install dual os in HP laptop. I disable secure boot and fast boot option. after that i install ubuntu. everything fine ubuntu installed but after restarting its directly goes to windows login\ kindly suggest what i should do ? [01:58] srini, you may need to change the boot order in bios to first go to the ubuntu (grub) /boot partition [01:59] when start ubuntu live cd (for 16.04) get a black screen with two choices: "1." and "2." with no text description next to the numbers. What does each choice say? [01:59] bios i select usb,hdd,cd ordee [01:59] Hello [01:59] I got E: Unable to locate package linux-firmware-nonfree ? [01:59] What new name ? [01:59] What's new name ?* [01:59] sigilbaram, what a silly plugin to install by default and not tell anyone [02:00] pragmaticenigma, I thought the same thing! Learned about it tonight because I've only used the mariadb repos that don't automatically enable it [02:00] pragmaticenigma: It's nice now that I know but... yeah... would have been nice to know... xD [02:01] dabba ? [02:01] i enable uefi mode also [02:01] srini, in bios, usually you can see options for windows/ubuntu/usb/cdrom - My laptop is lenovo though, and I have not used HP in a long time so I can't say much more than that [02:02] It's especially interesting that mysql_secure_installation just... doesn't care... Success!? === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:02] sql is available for ubuntu\is it free or charge ? [02:03] sigilbaram, yeah that should give some info on the fact that passwords are completely ineffectual lol [02:04] Ubuntu 18.04beta2 KDE - I have xpad installed and when I try to connect my XBOX ONE controller it only shows the the mac address and when I go to connect it won't connect [02:04] this was working fine on gnome desktop [02:04] paddy, i think you'll want to bring questions on 18.04 to #ubuntu+1 [02:04] dabba, sigilbaram now that you meantion it... I think the default MySQL installer does the same thing... It's been a year since I did anything with it [02:05] Any help ? [02:06] pragmaticenigma: that's possible. I vaguely remember banging my head against mysql on debian.... [02:06] I mean ubuntu maybe also debian === yourname is now known as sere_ [02:06] sigilbaram, it makes sense if it were a desktop installation, but I use server. implying that the server may need remote connections (though I don't use root for those) [02:07] !patience | AmR|EiSa [02:07] AmR|EiSa: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [02:07] !info linux-firmware [02:07] linux-firmware (source: linux-firmware): Firmware for Linux kernel drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.169.3 (artful), package size 41508 kB, installed size 210540 kB [02:07] AmR|EiSa, sounds like you may need to enable the non-free repos [02:07] so the -nonfree is dropped [02:08] ok [02:08] !Info linux-firmware xenial | AmR|EiSa [02:09] i think if you want nonfree packages that is in the multiverse now, is it not? [02:09] sudo apt-add-repository multiverse && sudo apt-get update [02:10] pragmaticenigma: Well it's a per-use authentication method, so any remote servers that need to connect to MySQL could still use a password instead, while the server admin could use this password to login with ssh. [02:10] yo [02:12] s/admin could use this password/admin could use this plugin/ [02:15] sigilbaram, guess it just needs better documentation in the ubuntu wiki [02:22] I think I found out what my problem with the cd/dvd drive was... it's broken. A different drive had no similar problem. [02:24] boblamont, makes sense. glad to hear you solved it! [02:37] halo [02:37] wht is this [02:45] hi ubuntu. I have a 16.04 rescue disk, from which I've managed to access my busted sda1. I can see all the files. how can i FTP them to my NAS? ftp only does one file at a time and I can't install ncftp. [02:45] they're 12G, so i can't just write them to dvd. :T [02:45] hint, please? [02:47] your nas won't write faster than file-per-file [02:47] you could make it one file, that could save time with scp [02:51] i haven't the room to zip it all? [02:51] NAS says it can create a NFS user, now i just need to figure out how to mount it on the funky box [02:55] i tried sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.105:/public /mnt/temp, I get invalid fs? [02:56] there's no /sbin/mount.nfs or /sbin/mount.cifs [02:57] i would just install filezilla in the liveiso, and connect [03:18] i-make-robots, would rsync work? [03:37] dabba - i get a "command not found", but when i rs it lists rsync [03:37] same for scp [03:37] i can ssh to the NAS. [03:37] so idk wtf is going on [03:38] i-make-robots, can you use a full 16.04 live usb environment? as opposed to the rescue disk? [03:39] I don't think I have a usb stick big enough. lemme check... [03:40] i'd need a url about how to set up a usb stick as the env. this box is so old it only responds to the ps2 keyboard [03:41] it also says there are 25 of 27G used, then says 0% available. :T [03:42] well if you can use another machine to create the usb media, then booting from the usb media you should be able to access your busted sda1 and move your files. I'm just not familiar with the rescue disk but I've done similar stuff with just the regular ubuntu 16.04 usb install running in evaluation (GUI) [03:42] sounds like the rescue disk you booted from is lacking some functionality that i think would be in the standard 16.04 install media [03:50] hey anyone know if there is a general ubuntu linux channel on freenode-want to know how to make a live install of windows with persistence on a usb from ubuntu or terminal [04:00] conjo, to the best of my knowledge there is no tool in the Linux/Gnu world for that purpose. Microsoft offers a tool that is available only to Enterprise level versions of their OS. you might find help in /join #windows [04:01] what does the "stable" mean in the follow command? "cat rvm.sh | bash -s stable", maybe an argument that is passed into the script being run? [04:02] i checked the man page, the word stable is not in there, and a google search for stable is very generic [04:05] MoonManT, the value "stable" is passed to the script rvm.sh ... the script rvm.sh consumes that argument [04:06] MoonManT, if rvm.sh is what I think it is, it is telling the ruby installer to use the "stable" branch for install [04:07] MoonManT, further information can be found here: https://rvm.io/rvm/install [04:08] pragmaticenigma: thank you === Sky887 is now known as Sky7 === Sky7 is now known as sky887 [04:21] anyone know how to make live win usb from ubuntu [04:22] cant find info on how to do it from linux only how to from windows [04:22] #freedv [04:23] whats that dude [04:24] conjo, a tool called woeusb or winusb is what you need [04:24] cant find it in the ubuntu software center and have been warned off installing from terminal [04:25] as repos not kept up to date and leads to security holes in system [04:25] please advise your logic [04:25] or approach to make it findable in software center [04:26] conjo, sounds like your normal bad advice someone hear would give [04:26] mmkay [04:26] so what then and any thought behind that [04:27] conjo, you try the built in tool [04:27] do you mean starup disk creator [04:28] conjo, the gnome disk unilty [04:28] conjo, the advice you were probably given is that this channel does not support software supplied outside of the official Ubuntu package repositories. Software obtained elsewhere is at your own risk. It is up to you to determine if the program accomplishes what you desire and is worth installing on your system. [04:28] yeah but no good for windows usb that i wanna boot live with persistence(like [04:28] utilty [04:29] conjo, you need this ppa the install winusb [04:29] starup disk creator is good for making my live linux usb's but not windows unless im doing something wrong(please advise) [04:29] conjo, https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/webupd8?dist=artful [04:30] conjo, yea windows needs it own speical sauce [04:30] conjo, using the normal dd command does not work [04:31] do i add it from the terminal (copy paste) or from the software and updates page(see image) [04:32] conjo, copy past then apt-get install winusb [04:32] https://imgur.com/a/sCk4Z6A [04:32] sudo apt-get instal winusb [04:34] that won't get you live windows [04:35] hey where do i paste "https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/webupd8?dist=artful", also do i add wget to it or anything tried in the terminal and this is my output "no such file or directory" [04:36] tried in the "software updates" and it wont allow me to add [04:36] conjo, you copy this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 [04:36] thanks [04:36] conjo: we dont support external ppa's here [04:37] gogeta: when users try to add ppa's please also inform them about the risks aka !ppa [04:38] !ppa | gogeta [04:38] gogeta: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [04:39] i sware when did this turn from helping with issue to purest garbage [04:39] gogeta: do you know how many users come here with scramled dependecies because of adding ppa's? [04:40] cant install winusb it says "Unable to locate package" help [04:40] got the warning cheers [04:40] conjo, sudo apt-get update [04:40] conjo, then sudo apt-get install winusb [04:41] thanking you [04:41] winusb doesn't even do what was requested [04:41] just a big waste of time :| [04:41] gogeta, when users install random stuff from all over the web, it becomes very difficult to help them. All the volunteers here know where to find documentation and resources for the items that are provided by Ubuntu. This channel has 1555 users at the moment, next week that number will like quintuple. We strive to help keep things baseline as best we can. [04:41] Ben64, he whants a windows installer correct [04:41] no [04:42] well dam [04:42] yeah but no good for windows usb that i wanna boot live with persistence(like [04:42] (got that what is [04:42] huh? [04:42] conjo, yea winusb only makes windows installers for 7 and up [04:43] what will allow making live usb win with persistence from linux [04:43] nothing [04:43] surely there is a way [04:43] conjo, as I stated earlier. the only way to create what you are looking for is to have a valid Windows Enterprise level installation. Which has the tool available to build a peristant windows USB live environment === anyone is now known as eschwartz [04:43] nope [04:43] ask ##windows on ways to do it [04:44] can you tell me what the tool is called [04:44] please [04:44] ask ##windows or google [04:44] conjo, It is built into Windows. I do not know what it is called. Plase /join ##windows as they're more likely to have people familiar with it [04:44] not on topic at all [04:44] also did the winusb install work think i had an error not sure-please advise [04:45] mkay thanks [04:45] https://imgur.com/a/lokCLwy [04:45] did it work see img [04:45] think dats n error on the install yeah? me noob [04:46] conjo, it did not work. the PPA does not support Ubuntu 16.04 aparently [04:46] suger [04:46] gogeta: you see why suggesting ppa's are risks now? [04:47] conjo, dam that ones down relly [04:47] conjo, just remove that from your softwhere sources to fix that [04:48] conjo, it did not do what you where asking anyways [04:48] so now i have to delete the added repo and sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to be all good again is this correct (me noob) help me learn if i am wrong too verbose or overkill [04:48] just saw your answer [04:48] conjo, just go to your softwhere sorces in the ui [04:49] re my question is that overkill [04:49] thanks [04:49] conjo, yea that was overkill [04:51] i made a mistake-i needed to tick the boxes in the software sources page,i hadnt and now it is installed and launching [04:52] thanks for all it has been very informative for me (learning more about linux and giving me perspective as im not advanced in understanding all that has been mentioned) [04:53] conjo, nice but that only makes install usb sticks [04:53] conjo, not a luve usb [04:53] live [04:53] great to hear conflicting opinions and examples of stuff so i understand [04:53] i know [04:53] but i have learned quite a bit [04:54] if i have to i will use a vm to do it with wsus or sumthing [04:54] conjo, vm are good [04:54] conjo, i do recomond downloading the deb from virtual box vs the one in the store [04:55] conjo, it was usb closed source bits [04:55] oracle version yeah [04:55] got that and the addon for my externals usbs drive sharing [04:56] how is battery life looking in ubuntu 18.04? i'm considering swapping over my T430 [04:56] and are there heaps of bugs? [04:56] * conjo wants to swap if its good [04:57] !18.04 | ca_cabotage [04:57] ca_cabotage: Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+1 [04:57] yea thers a channel for that [04:58] its not offical uyet [04:58] yet [04:58] yeah, for what a few more days [04:58] so how is battery life in 17.10? [04:59] ca_cabotage, that is a question better suited for our off topic room, /join #ubuntu-offtopic [05:00] Hi again [05:00] HI [05:01] I just dl and installed JDK in my ubuntu 16.04 usr/local/java/ but there is no JRE inside it for me to setup the locarion of javac and java [05:02] do I need to install JRE separately? [05:02] java is bad for your soul [05:02] gogeta, that is not helpful. please keep commentary to offtopic [05:02] why :-( [05:03] gogo, did you use apt to install java or did you download it direct from Oracle? [05:04] downloaded from oracle then tar xzvf [05:04] hii [05:04] did the package not incluede JRE pragmaticenigme === arjun is now known as Guest42925 [05:05] how to add password to folder [05:05] gogo, what does the site say where you downloaded it from? [05:08] pragmaticenigma, nothing just commands after commands [05:08] cd /usr/local/java [05:08] $ sudo tar xzvf ~/Downloads/jdk-9.0.{x}-linux-x64_bin.tar.gz [05:08] pragmaticenigma, I'm having problem with this part Inform the Ubuntu to use this JDK/JRE: [05:08] / Setup the location of java, javac and javaws [05:08] $ sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/local/java/jdk-9.0.{x}/jre/bin/java" 1 [05:08] // --install symlink name path priority [05:08]