| OvenWerks | (or somehwere) | 00:01 |
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| krytarik | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004438.html - btw, and images are ready for us now too. | 00:18 |
| captain-tux | Just got the e-mail as well. I'll try to run some tests tomorrow or early next week. | 00:37 |
| krytarik | I hope ErichEickmeyer or Roos will be mailing a call for testing later. | 00:38 |
| krytarik | Or indeed, Ross. :P | 00:38 |
| ErichEickmeyer | I’m at work right now, so I’ll send out the call for testing as soon as I can. Probably another 60-90 minutes. | 01:00 |
| krytarik | You know, the notion that shipping stuff by default isn't so important anymore nowadays because there has been a shift in what installation media is being used... | 03:59 |
| OvenWerks | there is not much difference in price between a 2g and 16g any more. | 04:00 |
| OvenWerks | There is a difference in length of download though | 04:01 |
| krytarik | I mean the conclusion was that because CDs/DVDs aren't often used anymore, we don't have to ship as many apps. | 04:03 |
| OvenWerks | people still run live usb sticks. | 04:04 |
| krytarik | People use USB stick however, which can hold even more data. | 04:04 |
| OvenWerks | being able to make a custom stick would be nice. | 04:05 |
| OvenWerks | only include the sw one likes | 04:05 |
| krytarik | I mean I agree with the idea to slim down the installation image a little - but that reasoning is totally off. | 04:07 |
| OvenWerks | Yes, we crossed the cd/dvd bridge long ago. | 04:11 |
| krytarik | Well, it still fits on a DVD - but as was said, not all computers have optical drives anymore. | 04:13 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Perhaps I wrote that part wrong in the notes, but there's no reason not to slim-down the ISO image. I may not have crystallized those thoughts correctly. | 04:19 |
| OvenWerks | ErichEickmeyer: I don't think we were commenting on your exact words, just talking the merits of size in general. | 04:21 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Ah, okay. | 04:22 |
| krytarik | Yes, you didn't reflect that incorrectly. | 04:24 |
| eylul | I would argue that download amount is still a thing, while internet is faster true, people do have limited amount of space to do so. as for usb, if you are regularly going to use a live usb, persistent systems are better anyway at least in our use case | 14:01 |
| eylul | I would also ask if there is a livecd/usb use case for ubuntustudio in particular (and this is not a rhetorical question I am genuinely not certain one way or another) | 14:01 |
| eylul | as production usually requires a) a semi persistent setup b) quite a bit of specific hardware (so not portable to say an internet cafe environment) | 14:02 |
| eylul | I think this is something we do need to think about in a larger scale krytarik , ovenwerks, ericheickmeyer what exactly our use cases are, once the project is back on track. :) | 14:03 |
| krytarik | eylul: Yeah, I certainly don't see people running about with Live USB media with Studio on it either - but the test before install use case is still there anyway, of course. | 16:09 |
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| OvenWerks | eylul: the big live USB drive use is preliminary mixdown on the train or perhaps some tracking. Also showing a client a partially done project on their window computer. This is not a big thing at all, a quick export would do fine for the second and just the program for the first as latency is not an issue. | 16:41 |
| OvenWerks | Those are just the two use cases I have heard of more than once. | 16:41 |
| OvenWerks | (from people who actually do these things :) | 16:42 |
| OvenWerks | being able to build a custom live disk for these purposes makes more sense.... and there is always AVL | 16:45 |
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