[05:05] <ubptgbot> Xray2000 was added by: Xray2000
 Telegram is not updating chats on my UT, the notification pops up but when you open Telegram it has not updated since Thursday, any ideas?
 @Stereofont, There's not need to turn off two factor authentication. Just create an app specific password here https://security.google.com/settings/security/apppasswords .
 @JasonMD, Can you make a logfile plz and upload it with the logviewer app right after closing and opening the app agai? thx
 And where do you live?
 Hong Kong
 Thx, how do I make a logfile?
 Install the logviewer app from openstore
 ok I have installed the logviewer app
 Then open the log file of telegram there, and in the menus you find the uplaod to pastebin. Send the URL here
 I have to run for work, I reply a bit later
 ok
 thx
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3Sg44TpKWT/
 Guy's we are now already a few months later what is the status of Anbox on the PRO 5 ?
 @Xray2000, That was a 'taster'. You need to be patient. It is intended to be built on 16.04 but that is not stable yet and it must come first. 16.04 stable is the first, second and third priority!
 (Photo, 491x336) https://irc.ubports.com/tXViDy5e.png 16:04? it's from the future!
 (Photo, 393x252) https://irc.ubports.com/4F0wleiL.png should land on my doormat tomorrow!
 Nice!
 Welcome @Xray2000 !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 @jonny, Hello is it perfect performans ?
 Hi, in chanel OpenStore, someone  spam
 @Stereofont, Thanks i know, i was just thinking mebay there was a move ;)
[10:22] <ubptgbot> bhushanshah was added by: bhushanshah
 Hm
 So I flashed Nexus 5 with AppImage and it is stuck on Google logo
 15.04/stable channel
 Hi @bhushanshah come to https://t.me/WelcomePlus and we'll try to help you there
 Bye bye thank you
 @advocatux, Special guest Halium master MC Bhushan? Everyone run to the welcome room! ;)
 @wayneoutthere, Yep 😅
[12:06] <ZeroPointEnergy> The company where I work is hosting the 18.4 release party this week and I will give a short talk about the ubports and halium projects. Is there any artwork or slide stack which can be used as a starting point?
 Ha...  @lduboeuf is working on finding exact same stuff right now so work with him and the news channel announcement yesterday has a link to his post in forum
 ZeroPointEnergy @lduboeuf is working on it https://github.com/lduboeuf/ut-helloworld-py/raw/master/osmobiles.odp
 Ha
 Oh
 :)
 High five bro we are fast
 👋
[12:12] <ZeroPointEnergy> @advocatux nice, thx :-)
 ZeroPointEnergy UT slides starts on page 26
 My first time opening a powerpoint doc in UT
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/s0I2ubSR.png
 Looking great
 Hey @UniversalSuperBox can you help me with the convergence
 :P
 <.< … >.>
 I am trying to get HDMI working on the Nexus 6
 *5
 Honestly... I don't have a Slimport cable. What seems to be going on though?
 It can't detect my HDMI
 is it pure hdmi, or is there an adapter in between?
 Pure HDMI plugged to projector
 I think probably wouldn't work with projector?
 and needs proper display?
 try that first?
 Does it work under another OS?
 You're the only person I'd ask that. :P
 iirc. hdmi needs to be powered from the receiving device.
 hmm
 so I can now connect it to actual display
 but I can't really use "touchpad" thingie
 Oh. That might not work.
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/301
 ...:(
 hm how do I pair BT photo/
 s/photo/touchpad-keyboard/
 It'll need to be off slimport first, then it's in Settings -> Bluetooth
 @bhushanshah, maybe that projector isn't doing proper EDID stuff?
 @dohbee, yeah seems like
 hm so I've logitech k400 Plus keyboard
 since I can't plug USB thingie comes with it I wonder how I pair it
 is it not bluetooth?
 Bluetooth with a dongle?
 it is bluetooth but with dongle yes
 Oh. those things
 I don't think they have Bluetooth on them. Just the 2.4ghz RF for the dongle.
 ah f....
 "Connection Type: Logitech Unifying protocol (2.4GHz) "
 Right, that
 yup
 you need proper bluetooth, or a slimport hub
 pft
 :-(
 *me is sad*
 It worked on earlier images to which I can try?
 Well, that issue was filed in October of 2017 and I'm not sure if it was okay before then
 It being touchpad thingie
 it works on nexus 4 :)
 Now only if I had Nexus 4
 i'm not sure if it ever worked on nexus 5
 Well it worked at one point with canonical version that I Kno
 there never was a canonical build for nexus 5
 i remember nexu4 BT to be iffy as wel, but that was many moons ago
 [Edit] i remember nexus 4 BT to be iffy as wel, but that was many moons ago
 yeah, I think it never worked on Nexus 5, bluetooth mouse/KB works well though … that's your only choice since I don't think wired connection will work while using slimport
 yeah, i don't know if there are any micro-usb slimport hubs, or if they only exist for usb-c
 slimport is a bit shaky if you don't have a dock or other way to fix the connector and the phone. HDMI cable is too heavy and pulls at the adapter
 i think for the micro usb, it diverted one of the wires use for perfiral connection - so it might have been only able to do one at a time
 they did have adapters with the hdmi part on the opposite
 https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41pX4Oa15jL._SY355_.jpg
 i think it's just to provide charging for the phone, on those
 yes, only charging - but would solve hugo's problem with the heavy adapter
 external power is not required with slimport though but it's a good thing to be able to charge
 I wonder, can I install Oxide debug symbols so it gives a better stack trace than https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rHfkStsXzy/
 i don't know if there's enough space in / to insatall everything
 but if the .ddeb is available, you should be able to install it, sure
 @dohbee, 🤔
 Didn't think of it like that
 note, you might need qt debug symbols or such too
 it's not clear from that if the crash itself is actually in oxide
 `getrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE) failed` hrmmm
 well, oxideqt-dbg is a cool 488MB extracted
[14:59] <ubptgbot> Plazmodium was added by: Plazmodium
 Debugging this now: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/442
 yeah, it's pretty big
 #DobeyWasRight
 Gotta resize the image
 @dohbee, No joy. Will webbrowser-app even give better stack traces if it can?
[15:22] <opendata> How does ubports compare to sailfish in possiblity of using daily
 @JuergenAusVS, OP2 is stuck because of a bug … This bug is on most of the android 7  qualcomm devices :/
 @UniversalSuperBox, i mean, there's nothing special about webbrowser-app, other than chroimium is overly complex, and there's some qml. you should be able to get a decent stack trace if all the debug packages for the whole dependency stack are installed, i would think
 @dohbee, Well, I'm fairly sure that I have the debug symbols installed but I'm still getting <unknown>s in the app's own stack trace
 Checking the rendering process' map, the call is in libOxideQtCore.so.0... which I should have symbols for at this point
 guess who is wrong
 libOxideQtCore is a separate package
 :)
 Wonder if it'll make a ddeb
 I hope it'll make a ddeb.
 https://ci.ubports.com/blue/organizations/jenkins/ubports%2Foxide-packaging/detail/xenial_-_oxide-debugsymbols/1/pipeline … Here we go, abusing the CI to hopefully get the symbols we need.
 Well... if this succeeds it's gonna be a 45 minute build...
 it should build one, but do hey get published in the ubports repo?
 No, that's the change I just made
 Freight will happily publish them, but we don't normally archive them in the build step
 No archive means no upload
 Does anyone know why, on Ubuntu Touch devices, Facebook won't let you go to full screen on uploaded images, both on the webapp and Sailbook? It basically prevents you from downloading them now :(
 This wasn't always the case.
 are they both just web apps?
 i presume it's not limited to UT, but a general change on the fb web site
 @vince1171, how far did you get with porting?
 @TartanSpartan, I was afraid of that as Facebook is changing there full layout of the mobile website.
 Sailbook isn't precisely a webapp, right?
 The FB webapp on M10, despite having a ghetto mobile internet circa 2007 view all of a sudden, does let you go fullscreen.
 I think Facebook canned their nicer mobile website
 For obvious reasons
 @UniversalSuperBox, Yes i know from my inside man the change there layouts now
 But the checks now the useragent and from that you get a other layout ...
 All about money the care ;)
 Obvious reasons? To save money?
 To push mobile users to their in-house apps
 @UniversalSuperBox, Indeed thats it
 Oh, yeah screw that.
 On that way to generate add ...
 [Edit] On that way to generate adds ...
 @TartanSpartan, yeah, just delete your facebook
 @dohbee, This. One has to be coherent with their word
 Not an option for keeping in touch with my friends, including the international ones.
 delete your friends. make new ones.
 I will say there's no way Cambridge Analytical have ever influenced my voting patterns, though. I form my own political opinions.
 @dohbee, This
 Give me an opensource social network then felluhz.
 Mastodon
 GNU Social
 Diaspora*
 Should I go on? :P
 the pub
 movim
 @dohbee, You don't even need to be online to go there!
 I'll check them out. We go to the pub most nights after fight club.
 (brown belt in Japanese jiu-jitsu)
 Oh hey, my Oxide build finished
 With the libOxideQtCore debug symbols!
[19:09] <ubptgbot> <Silver killer> @Stereofont, Do you have a link to the group
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/Yw0E8qP0.png
 @K31j0, The pub
 @Silver killer, http://t.me/UBports_Arabic
[19:49] <ubptgbot> <Silver killer> (Photo, 719x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/IgUoqF8V.png
[19:50] <ubptgbot> <Silver killer> 🤔
 i think someone made it private perhaps?
 :(
 Awesome....../
 The language captain did delete his profile suddenly … we will investigate and resolve
 شكو ماكو ?!
 My friend told me that is "whats up"
 https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/shaku-maku-iraq-arabic
[20:46] <ZeroPointEnergy> Is there a way to migrate from a BQ (Aquaris E5) image to a ubbort image without reflashing?
 If you're on Ubuntu already, switching shouldn't wipe your data
[20:49] <ZeroPointEnergy> but I have to reflash?
 Yeah, you'll need to use the installer or some other method to reflash
 @ZeroPointEnergy, yes
 i mean, even if you could do it directly on the device, it's still "flashing"
[20:55] <ZeroPointEnergy> why does the installer needs sudo rights btw?
 Most of the time the command is given without them
 @ZeroPointEnergy, fastboot
 probably
 If you need to use them, it's because you don't have proper udev rules so you can't access the device while it's in fastboot or recovery
[20:57] <ZeroPointEnergy> it seams to ask for it before the device is even in recovery
[20:57] <ZeroPointEnergy> but well, have  to configure it then :-)
 Oh, duh
 Well, it's root access to configure the udev rules or root access to communicate with the device
 so you aren't really gaining anything
[20:59] <ZeroPointEnergy> oh well, I do hope it does not configure any udev rules then O.O
 It doesn't
[21:06] <ZeroPointEnergy> the installer is absolutely beautiful btw. Very nice job!
 #BlameMarius
 Er... wait... that's a good thing
[21:07] <ZeroPointEnergy> lol
[21:12] <ZeroPointEnergy> Hope I have more time to work on the s7 soon. I did some experiments with the initrd and ostree. Got it booting from an ostree repo
[21:14] <ZeroPointEnergy> which would be really nice because that can do atomic updates, rollbacks and even dual boot, given we had some ui in the initrd to select the ostree branch or commit
[21:17] <ZeroPointEnergy> is there an existing library for a simple android framebuffer ui?
 I don't know of one that runs GNU-side, but you're probably looking for something like MinUI
 I think that's what TWRP uses. You could even steal their keyboard.
 Alternatively, I heard that @NotKit was working on running a PostMarketOS build on libhybris devices. Maybe he got their initrd to boot graphically too and he could share what they use?
[21:19] <ZeroPointEnergy> ah very interesting hint.
 If you do figure out how to do that, tell me because I need that information
 :)
[21:19] <ZeroPointEnergy> -)
[21:20] <ZeroPointEnergy> PostMarketOS will use halium or do they create their own builds?
 They prefer open source devices
 in-kernel
 No libhybris
[21:22] <ZeroPointEnergy> yes, but the hybris devices you mentioned
 I'm thinking that was custom
[21:22] <ZeroPointEnergy> oh, I understand
[21:23] <ZeroPointEnergy> Was looking at their onscreen keyboard for encryption and they seemed to use SDL2
 @NotKit, I have work on it since 1 mouth because I have  no time :/ … Halium boot … Got ssh … Flashlight ;) … Vibrator … No WiFi … No GPS … No graphics … If I try to start lxc => crash+reboot … On Halium rootfs, some test work, but not the most importants … Test_hwcomposer do nothing … In short it's not great … And you, how
[23:09] <ubptgbot> far are you? … We should create a post for the OP2 at https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues
 @vince1171, *I haven't work on it since 1 mouth