[00:13] ok I upgraded to 16.04 on the ubuntu server laptop but pcmcica cardbus usb2.0 card still no work there is a description [00:14] usb2.0 card still no work there is a device descriptor read/64 error -110 [00:14] code anyone? [00:15] this doesn't happen on the dell pentium 3 laptop with xubuntu 16.05 [00:15] 04 [00:17] themoonisshining: does yours system support 64bit? [00:18] sere_: none of the two laptops do they're pentium 3 and 4 [00:19] themoonisshining, it is entirely possible the PCMCIA slot is damaged... are you able to test other cards in it? [00:19] "device descriptor read/64, error -110 means that USB port power supply was exceeded." [00:19] compdoc, good catch [00:19] pragmaticenigma: yes I can try [00:20] try a powered usb hub [00:20] themoonisshining, did you see what compdoc mentioned... Does the device connected to the USB card have it's own power supply? [00:20] compdoc: there is a dongle that suposely connects to the usb1.0 port from that card [00:21] but I dont'use it nor on the laptop that works [00:21] pragmaticenigma: the dongle? could be [00:21] I also read on dmesg it couldn't power it before but since it works on 1 laptop I figure it will work on this one [00:22] themoonisshining: BIOS / Peripherals to Enable IOMMU read this might help now sure though [00:24] its a pci card with usb ports? [00:25] oh, you said laptop [00:25] compdoc, the first [00:27] don't know its a pccard with usb2.0 ports [00:29] pccard, right [00:29] havent seen those in a while [00:30] I'm here on another pc I'm gonna read this about immo [00:30] i guess I know now why it doesn't work on windows xp either [00:31] xp? yikes. you shouldnt be using that [00:33] compdoc, i can't run 7 on this laptop with a 1gb of ram [00:34] just so dangerous browsing with it. easy to infect [00:35] I won't get online then [00:35] Anyone good with grub and UEFI? I just installed Xenial to an Asus 1015e (UEFI, but came with Ubuntu preinstalled) [00:35] and on reboot, I'm stuck in "error: file not found. grub rescue>" [00:36] anyway I connected the usb cable from the usb2.0 card to the usb1.1 port and it still gives me this error [00:37] akk: singleboot? [00:37] lotuspsychje: There's also a debian partition but I don't care about it, would be happy to get anything booting. [00:37] (did I interpret your question right?) [00:38] akk: doublecheck if you have secureboot and fastboot disabled [00:38] lotuspsychje: How do I check? I haven't been able to find anything like that in the bios menus. [00:39] akk: if its an uefi machine, those settings should be there mate, legacy/uefi [00:39] !uefi | akk [00:39] akk: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [00:40] lotuspsychje: I think it's EFI because occasionally things related to EFI show up, e.g. when I boot off a USB stick, one of the entries for it in the BIOS boot menu has "EFI" in the name. [00:41] But I've never been entirely clear on it. [00:41] akk: well for ubuntu singleboot, try disable fastboot and secureboot..reinstall of ubuntu might be needed changing settings [00:41] lotuspsychje: Disable it how? [00:42] akk: like i said, if your machine is uefi you can enter settings right? [00:42] lotuspsychje: Enter settings where? I've been through all the BIOS menus multiple times and don't see anything. [00:42] akk: ok, whats your pc brand please? [00:43] Asus 1015e [00:43] holdon lemme check [00:43] It came with ubuntu preinstalled, which might possibly mean that they disabled some of the UEFI secure boot stuff. [00:45] akk: you bought it this way, or someone made it? [00:45] I bought it this way, new. [00:45] It was an option Asus offered on this model (quite a few years ago). [00:46] akk: wich ubuntu came on that? [00:47] I don't remember ... let me check when I got it. [00:47] akk: nvm, wich ubuntu do you run now? [00:48] Xenial is what I just tried to install. [00:48] from a netboot iso [00:49] When I got to the install-grub stage I expected questions about UEFI but it didn't ask any and didn't give any errors. [00:49] akk: your manual says F2 to enter bios settings [00:49] yes, it's f2 [00:50] akk: TAB boot is where you can disable fastboot [00:50] I can enter the bios, there's just nothing there about secure boot. [00:51] In the Boot tab, I have: Boot Configuration, which has one item, Launch PCE OpROM; then Boot Option Priorities (that's the boot order, just the internal HD); [00:51] then submenus Add New Boot Option and Delete Boot Option. [00:52] akk: windows boot manager enabled? [00:52] I don't know, how would I tell? [00:52] There's nothing about that on this screen. [00:52] hmm [00:52] I can take a photo of the screen if it would help. [00:53] akk: you dont see fastboot or launch csm? [00:53] Nope. [00:53] akk: page 65 http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePC/1015E/E_eManual_1015E_VER7770.pdf?_ga=2.266025103.1013258644.1524444260-1792275937.1524444260 [00:53] Just Launch PXE OpROM (which is disabled, but enabling it doesn't change anything). [00:54] I don't have Driver Option Priorities there. [00:55] akk, is that you Stuart Langridge ?? [00:55] And Boot Option Priorities only has one entry: [ubuntu (PO ST320LT...] [00:55] AuroraAvenue: no, don't know Stuart. [00:56] If I put the cursor on Boot Option #1 (that ubuntu entry) and hit return, the menu I get offers a choice of that or Disabled. [00:58] akk: hmm weird [00:58] akk: no other settings at all on tab boot? [00:59] nope, just what I listed above. [00:59] Oh, btw, if I put the cursor over "Add New Boot Option" the help on the right says "Add a new EFI boot option to the boot order" [00:59] so I'm thinking it is EFI [00:59] akk: doublecheck all tabs for fastboot, csm, legacy === Menzador97 is now known as Menzie [01:00] I've been through them all at least 5 times, not seeing anything. [01:00] ok mate [01:00] akk: can you still access grub? [01:00] The word "Legacy" occasionally shows up in the help, e.g. for Launch PXE OpROM the help says "Controls the execution of Legacy PXE OpROM" (thanks for clearing that up, Asus) [01:01] lotuspsychje: If I boot, I end up in "error: file not found.\ngrub rescue>" [01:01] I'm not sure if that's actually grub or not. [01:01] akk: what i surely would try is burn ubuntu on a stick and try the F12 install [01:02] akk: so we cant rescue grub and cant install right now [01:03] What's different about the F12 install? [01:03] And would it help if I had a shell? I can probably get to a shell using rescue mode. [01:03] akk: well its justas a test, to see if it would pickup the stick [01:03] akk: yeah try grub recoverymode [01:03] I can definitely boot from a usb stick. [01:03] akk: perhaps we can rescue old ubuntu somehow [01:04] The old ubuntu is definitely gone -- I didn't like the partitioning so I changed all the partitions. [01:04] akk: at wich point things got wrong exactly? [01:04] I've been running with this laptop for years with not enough disk space because the partitioning was wonky. [01:05] So I finally decided it was time to risk a reinstall/repartition. [01:05] akk: and how did you do that? [01:05] Up until now the grub it was booting from was the one from an LTS from 5-6 years ago, whichever one that was. [01:06] akk: sounds like a 12.04? [01:06] lotuspsychje: Made a netboot ISO, dd'ed it to a usb stick, booted off the stick and followed the install prompts. [01:06] Yeah, 12.04 sounds right. [01:06] So that may be the grub that's still there on the disk; I suspect update-grub didn't actually write a new one though I'm not sure. [01:07] Hmm, is there a way to get a version number from the grub rescue prompt? [01:07] akk: sure: lsb_release -a [01:07] Unknown command `lsb_release' [01:08] if ubuntu is the only OS, i would disable secureboot on that machine [01:08] oerheks: he cant find the option [01:08] oerheks: I'd love to if you could tell me how. [01:08] (she, not that it matters) [01:08] oh my bad [01:09] akk: try a regular 16.04 latest iso to burn on usb and F12 [01:09] akk: maybe we get lucky to override the old leftover [01:10] oerheks: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePC/1015E/E_eManual_1015E_VER7770.pdf?_ga=2.266025103.1013258644.1524444260-1792275937.1524444260 [01:10] ah now i can recall, maybe that was ubuntu remix netbooks [01:11] lotuspsychje: The only reason I'm hesitating is that I have a fairly slow net connection, hesitant to download a full ISO [01:11] (frustratingly, I have a xenial USB stick already but I loaned it to a friend and he hasn't given it back yet) [01:11] akk: ah yes i understand, perhaps steal a faster wifi for grabbing iso? [01:12] akk: did you try grub recovery? [01:12] want to know if we can still get in [01:13] lotuspsychje: try it how? I've been trying typing ls in grub rescue, but so far all I've gotten is "error: unknown filesystem". [01:13] akk: you can drop to a rootshell with network? [01:13] aha, ls (hd0,gpt5)/ actually lists the root filesystem [01:14] lotuspsychje: Yes, I'm pretty sure I can get that. [01:15] If there was some kind of update-grub command I could run, maybe in verbose mode so I could see what it was doing ... [01:15] I haven't been having much luck googling for commandline fixes for grub/efi problems, though. [01:16] akk: see if you can grab current ubuntu version lsb_release -a [01:16] okay, sec ... [01:17] akk: im pretty sure i installed 14.04 or 16.04 on those eee netbooks before [01:17] this stupid bios requires so many keystrokes to boot from a usb stick every time ... [01:18] and then so many steps in rescue mode to get to where it'll actually give me a shell (waiting for it to download a bunch of stuff now) [01:19] It doesn't have a 'Just boot the kernel that's already on sdb5" option, first it has to download and prepare all the installer files. [01:20] akk: did you choose fix broken packages? [01:20] It never asked me that option. [01:21] akk: at wich step are you exactly? [01:21] Okay, whew! I finally got to "execute a shell". [01:21] So I'm in a root shell with the proper / and /boot mounted. [01:22] lsb_release -a says it's 16.04.4 LTS, xenial [01:22] hmm [01:22] (which is right, that's the ISO I downloaded) [01:22] sorry abt that. [01:25] akk: i would go for the fresh reinstall, that machine needs a new ubuntu :p [01:26] lotuspsychje: I just installed this two hours ago! [01:27] wait, is 18.04 out yet? [01:27] akk: not yet 26 april [01:27] akk: xenial should work fine on it [01:28] akk: so if you installed succesfully, and you cant boot there must be some bios setting wrong [01:30] Maybe ... but 12.04 was booting fine, and there doesn't seem to be anything in the bios that looks relevant. [01:30] akk: how did you partition in setup? [01:30] sda and b were some UEFI thing and some recovery thing, and I left them alone [01:31] and I made partition 3 be /boot, 5 is / [01:31] and 8 is swap [01:31] (in between there are some spare root partitions and a big /home partition) [01:31] akk: ah..i would go for the full swipe, let ubuntu choose partitioning [01:32] chu, hi [01:32] I don't want one big partition, I specifically want a separate /boot and /home and several root partitions. [01:32] chu, sorry i wasn't meant to ping you, wrong person [01:33] im trying to install linux-headers-generic, but it fails with // unmet dependencies linux-headers-generic: Depends: linux-headers-4.4.0.119-generic but it is not going to be installed [01:33] akk: but if you leave that uefi alone, that might be the reason boot got scrambled.. [01:33] dmarr: did you add external ppa's of any kind? [01:34] I worry that if I overwrite those partitions, the laptop may never be salvageable. [01:34] I am on 16.04.1 LTS -- kernel drivers 4.13.0-38 [01:34] akk: no, fresh install always works [01:34] does the latest ubuntu come with the new AMD graphics drivers in the kernel? [01:34] lotuspsychje: i may have installed one- how do i check? [01:34] !sources | dmarr [01:34] dmarr: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [01:35] lotuspsychje: That's a joke, ha ha, right? [01:35] dmarr: !ppapurge your external ppa's and upgrade your system quick to 16.04.4 [01:35] (Tried a fresh install on my friend's Acer and it was a total disaster. He ended up having to download a new copy of Windows and then install ubuntu in a VM.) [01:35] And that was a "take all the defaults, let ubuntu partition the disk however it wants" install. [01:36] akk: no, im not joking i always do full swipe and install ubuntu fresh [01:36] Ubuntu (and probably all linuces) clearly has problems with UEFI on some laptops. [01:36] I had hoped that this one wasn't one of them because it CAME with ubuntu, but apparently that doesn't help. [01:36] akk: i never had one system yet, that didnt want to install ubuntu yet [01:37] lotuspsychje: Google acer ubuntu and you'll find hundreds of examples. Also: never buy an Acer. [01:37] akk: im using acer one atm, so untrue [01:37] Really? Interesting. [01:37] akk whats the ubuntu support issue [01:37] akk: and as i said before, i recall installing later ubuntu on those asus EEE netbooks [01:38] When I asked here (it was a couple weeks ago) everybody had horror stories about acer and said it's perfectly normal that the install ends up bricking it. [01:38] bazhang: ubuntu asus EEE netbook, she has error: file not found.\ngrub rescue after install [01:38] Asus is usually better (not like acer at all) but maybe this one is an exception. :( [01:38] This isn't an EEE [01:38] lotuspsychje, asus is the eeebook [01:39] akk so you are having an issue with some acer netbook or the like [01:40] akk mind sharing some of the system specs on that computer [01:40] this is a 1015e, celeron from a couple years after the eee line was discontinued, I'm installing 64-bit [01:42] !ppapurge [01:42] To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [01:42] Anyone know anything about grub-install syntax? I wonder if the problem here is that it tried installing to sda rather than the boot partition sda3. [01:44] akk: if you succeeded the ubuntu install, something must be wrong with either partioning, or uefi setting [01:45] akk: so what i would try is reinstall, full swipe with ubuntu partition automaticly [01:45] akk: if you dont like layout, you can change afterwards right [01:46] Not easily. Have you ever tried to use gparted to resize a partition on a 300G disk? It takes DAYS (if it ever finishes, I've always given up after a day). [01:46] akk: and never give away your xenial usb again :p [01:46] :) [01:48] has anyone gotten arc theme to install on 1804? [01:48] it looks really strange if you enable it [01:48] also, does anyone know how to get hte stock gnome panel and not the ambiance one? [01:48] I tried installing gnome-session [01:49] mikeymop: #ubuntu+1 for bionic talk please [01:49] All the pages I find on grub rescue have disk partitions that look like (hd0,msdosN) and mine are all (hd0,gptN), I wonder what that means. [01:49] lotuspsychje: ty [01:50] I wish there was some documentation somewhere on the grub rescue commands! [01:50] !recovergrub | akk [01:50] akk: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub [01:51] I can set root= and set prefix=, but then everbody says to insmod something, and both insmod linux and insmod normal give "file not found". [01:51] lotuspsychje: its odd that i installed fresh 16.0.4 LTS Desktop but go no prompts to upgrade, even after running Software Updater [01:51] There is of course no lsmod. [01:51] akk #grub has a channel and a wiki [01:51] guys i need absolute minimal ubuntu, non-gui, just sshd into [01:51] least packets, only basic setup [01:51] can you help me? [01:51] !mini | rud0lf [01:51] oh, thanks, I'll try that, bazhang [01:51] rud0lf: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [01:51] would i use do-release-updgrade to get to the version you suggested? [01:52] cool [01:52] thanks baz :) [01:52] dmarr: you said you had 16.04.1? [01:52] lotuspsychje: i assumed so when i run uname -a and it shows that [01:52] #43~16.04.1-Ubuntu [01:52] And thanks for that recovergrub link, lotuspsychje, I'll try some of those commands if I can't find any help on grub rescue. [01:53] dmarr: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [01:53] lotuspsychje: that was what I saw after the 16.04.4 download [01:54] akk: reinstall fresh hint hint :p [01:54] lotuspsychje: ok -- i guess do-release-upgrade is bringing me to v17 [01:54] lotuspsychje: I hear you but I still say that I just did a fresh install, so I don't have your confidence that it would change anything. [01:54] I will try it if I can't find any way to reinstall grub from this install. [01:55] akk: yeah but you avoided some existing partitions [01:55] (I'm still afraid that overwriting those two partitions will brick the system even worse) [01:55] akk: ubuntu cant brick a system [01:56] lotuspsychje: It seems to have just bricked mine, in the sense of not being able to boot. Hopefully not permanently though. [01:57] akk: you didnt brick, ubuntu is not installed correctly [01:58] I was using brick in the soft-brick sense of going from a usable system to an unusable one. [02:00] Sorry, getting frustrated after hours of this. [02:00] akk: then dont be stubborn and reinstall fresh === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:01] It's not just stubbornness, it's not wanting to risk losing those partitions. [02:01] akk: an empty hd needs new partitions? [02:01] akk: or you got data on them? [02:02] There's data on there from asus. One of them is labeled "recovery partition". [02:02] Which if I could figure out how to access it, might help me get the computer working again. [02:02] The other is labeled EFI something, so it might be important to booting. [02:03] akk: mostly those partitions hold windows drivers n such [02:03] b [02:03] This computer never had windows on it. [02:03] It came with Ubuntu from the factory. [02:03] Just ubuntu, not dual-boot. [02:03] akk: yea you told me before [02:04] Just meant that it seems unlikely it would have windows drivers. [02:05] akk: anyway..i did like tons of formats with ubuntu with full swipe auto partioning, never go wrong for me once.. [02:06] akk: so this said ill rest my case, or its wrong uefi setting, or wrong partitoning [02:10] weird this 17.10 upgrade just left me at the login screen with no mouse movement [02:10] no keyboard interaction either [02:11] hard reboot fixed it /shrug [02:14] Actually it looks like the ubuntu installer may not handle separate /boot right at all. [02:14] The /boot/grub/grub.cfg file has a lot of stuff like set root="hd1,gpt3" where root should be hd0,gpt5. [02:15] The 3 might be right because I know sometimes grub says root when it means boot, but the hd1 seems wrong regardless. [02:15] and when I try to run software updater now it says I need to do a 'partial upgrade'. but after authing, nothing happens [02:16] i'm using a rescue disk. i made sure my hostname matches /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts. i still get failures when bringing enp0s16 up (tho it does go up) and any attempt to resolve a domain name. i can ping the router. what am I missing, please? [02:16] dmesg is unhelpful [02:18] here we go. xorg had failed to install [02:20] on 17.10 > after edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts , systemctl restart systemd-logind.service # or hostnamectl set-hostname NEW_NAME_HERE would do it instantly, temporarely [02:20] Aha! grub-install /dev/sdb gives a bunch of errors, which the installer ignored and didn't bother to relay. [02:20] else you need a reboot,, but that would be silly on a rescuedisk [02:22] oerheks - was that for me? i'm trying to figure out why i can't resolve domain names when i can ping the router which is online. [02:23] earlier in the evening i had the default rescue hostname (ubuntu) which i later realized was not the one in the hostnames file. I rebooted and used the correct hostname, but I'm still can't ping google because it doesn't know wtf google.com is. [02:23] reset the router [02:24] i made sure to update /etc/network/interfaces to change eth0 into enp0s16 and make sure it was auto [02:24] Also, grub-install is "installing for i386-pc platform" [02:24] when i ifdown/ifup it says it failed ot up enp0s16, but then ifconfig says it's up with the correct static ip. [02:24] i'll try the router reset. [02:24] disconnecting for a moment... [02:24] and ls /usr/lib/grub has i386-pc but doesn't have x86_64 even though the version of ubuntu I installed was amd64. [02:26] still can't resvolve hosts... [02:26] afk [02:34] In this shell, networking works but DNS doesn't apparently because a resolvconf daemon isn't running. [02:35] I can ping 91.189.94.40 (ubuntu.com) but putting 8.8.8.8 in /etc/resolv.conf doesn't work to resolve hostnames (so I can't apt-get install the missing grub pieces). [02:36] I guess I could edit /etc/hosts ... [02:37] akk: You could run your own instance of ISC Bind and add 127.0.0.1 into /etc/resolv.conf. That's what I do, and it works well. [02:38] By using an external DNS server you're adding another potential point of failure into your configuration. [02:38] Use externals as a backup in case your own has problems, that's fine, but running your own can work very well. [02:39] I'd have to install bind first, right? [02:40] I should definitely look into that in general, though, thanks Randolf [02:40] Yes, you will need to do that. [02:40] It supports IPv6 and IPv4. [02:40] You'll want to look into the configuration for which IP addresses it listens on. [02:41] The problem was not being able to install anything because the mirror locations in sources.list didn't resolve. [02:41] If you don't want to be an involentary resolver for external systems, then that will be of particular help to you. [02:41] Oh. [02:41] I added us.archive.ubuntu.com to /etc/hosts as a temporary fix. [02:41] Can you resolve www.randolfrichardson.com? [02:41] No. [02:41] Yeah, you've either got DNS issues or routing problems. [02:42] Firewall? [02:42] UDP port 53. [02:42] Randolf: I'm running a shell booted from recovery mode on an installer USB stick, which supposedly started the network but apparently didn't really. [02:42] It spends all this time before giving me a shell in setting up things like the network, then throws it all away once the shell is started. [02:44] I have now installed grub-efi-amd64 but I'm still trying to figure out what arguments it wants. [02:45] So weird that the ubuntu installer for amd64 only installs the i386 version of grub. [02:46] any1 notice an issue with 18.04 and intel cpu/gpu causing machine to hardlock with gnome-shell fault [02:47] #ubuntu+1 for 18.o4 yousuc [02:47] aiight thx [02:50] akk: So if you type this command, what do you see? ifconfig -av [02:50] akk: So if you type this command, what do you see? ifconfig -a [02:51] (Sorry, -v only works on NetBSD.) [02:51] akk: Also, do you normally have NAT configured on that system? [02:55] Randolf: Yes, though right now it's a brand-new system -- I'm trying to get my install to boot. [02:56] But I'm giving up for the night (having spent the last 6 hours on this). Maybe tomorrow I'll try wiping out the recovery and EFI partitions like lotuspsychje says I should. [02:56] Thanks for the help, lotuspsychje! And g'night. [02:56] akk: np [02:57] When I try to install prolog packages I get the following error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3yjRbf7TQd/ Can someone help me figure out what to do? [03:00] amazoniantoad: Have you tried installing the needed packages separately? [03:00] Yes Randolf [03:00] Oh. Errors with those too? [03:00] Yes [03:00] Should I try to do this with pip? [03:01] I don't know the answer to that. [03:02] What error do you see when you try this? apt install swi-prolog-nox [03:02] * Randolf is just trying: apt install swi-prolog [03:03] Randolf, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gBHfT2TTYs/ [03:03] It installed for me without any problems on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. [03:04] Randolf, so I guess my problem is holding broken packages. How should I approach this? [03:05] Are you running on a production machine? [03:05] I don't know what you mean by that. I need it for school [03:05] Well, "production" as opposed to "test." [03:06] If it's not for a "production" environment, then you could try: apt update [03:06] ...and then: apt upgrade [03:06] * amazoniantoad crosses fingers [03:06] The problem is that I don't know why your packages are "broken" and so it's possible that an apt upgrade could fail and leave your system in a worse state. [03:06] You should have backups before proceeding. [03:07] too late [03:07] Hopefully it works then. [03:07] amazoniantoad: you have broken packages - do you have any PPAs enabled? [03:07] If I don't return, tell people my story [03:07] * Randolf laughs [03:07] You're so dramatic. I like your dramatic flare! [03:08] * amazoniantoad stops holding himself [03:08] ...it, worked? [03:08] Maybe? [03:08] No errors. [03:08] Didn't install. [03:08] Are you using any PPAs? SlidingHorn asked a good question. [03:09] yes [03:09] Which ones? [03:09] i'll list it in paste [03:11] amazoniantoad: also, which version & flavor of ubuntu are you using? [03:11] SlidingHorn, Randolf https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WnGw6kSTTM/ [03:12] ubuntu 16.04 [03:12] wow...that's a lot... [03:12] ...sorry [03:13] Want me to clean it up? [03:14] Simpler is often better. [03:14] okay [03:14] Well first, it looks like your teamviewer repos are for Debian and not Ubuntu, which could have an effect on why your original error said you may be using an unstable distribution [03:14] I was able to install and run prolog without any PPAs. [03:14] hm [03:15] One should always try to avoid PPAs whenever possible [03:15] I didn't know that [03:15] I used one within the past few weeks because someone I'm supporting needed PHP5. I've not used any others, and I want to get rid of that PPA sooner rather than later anyway. [03:16] also, you're using an outside PPA for prolog, when there's a version in the normal repos [03:17] same with obs-studio [03:18] ...and TOR... [03:19] why did you enable all of these PPAs?? At this point, I'd almost just recommend a full reinstall because there's so much extra outside stuff installed that I wouldn't know where to start [03:19] It's complaining because I have newer versions of dependencies than what it wants [03:19] amazoniantoad: It looks like SlidingHorn figured out what the problem is -- PPAs. [03:19] I disabled them [03:20] amazoniantoad: did you uninstall all the stuff you installed from them? [03:20] No [03:20] amazoniantoad: then you're going to run into the same dependency problems [03:21] I've found t leasat 4 different applications you unnecessarily used an outside PPA for [03:24] I think what I'm going to do is just use xen whenever I need ppa's. Would that be a good idea? [03:25] I mean *need* not just suggested, didn't know I shouldn't use ppa's either [03:25] that's the thing...you should *very* rarely need PPAs [03:26] Yeah I'll just stick to the main repos for now on [03:27] Thanks guys [03:27] ttyl === ubuntu is now known as Guest6634 [04:03] ifconfig says epn0s16 is up, i have the correct hostname, I can ping the router, but I can't resolve any host names like google.com. dmesg doesn't say anything of note. please: what should I be looking for? [04:04] ./etc/hosts and /etc/hostnames seem ok based on tutorials i found online. i also tried rebooting the router. [04:05] i-make-robots, /etc/resolv.conf ? === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [04:06] i'll check. [04:10] mniip - /etc/resolve.conf was empty, /etc/resolvconf/interface-order listed many devices but not my enp0s16, so i added enp*. [04:10] trying an ifdown/ifup since it hasn't worked yet. [04:10] imbezol: /etc/resolve.conf is *not* /etc/resolv.conf which was requested [04:10] my typo [04:11] are you always that polite? [04:13] ifdown/ifup doesn't seem to have changed anything. === sauvin_ is now known as sauvin [04:19] i-make-robots, if you can ping 8.8.8.8 (google dns) but not say google.com; your DNS (domain name service) isn't work (one part of it is in /etc/resolv.conf) - a quick fix is to add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolv.conf which will force usage of google's dns (try pinging things again). this is a quick fix which will be overwritten by a reboot. i can't help more now sorry (maybe someone else can) [04:19] fyi: DNS converts names like google.com to their ip address (numbers, ipv4 or ipv6) [04:24] After working with Ubuntu Linux for a few weeks (I'm still new to it), I'm finding that I really like it. It feels stable, and it boots so quickly. [04:24] I'm impressed, and very happy with it. [04:25] Randolf: glad to hear and welcome to the ubuntu community [04:25] Thank you, lotuspsychje. [04:26]