[00:13] <themoonisshining> ok I upgraded to 16.04 on the ubuntu server laptop but pcmcica cardbus usb2.0 card still no work there is a description
[00:14] <themoonisshining> usb2.0 card still no work there is a device descriptor read/64 error -110
[00:14] <themoonisshining> code anyone?
[00:15] <themoonisshining> this doesn't happen on the dell pentium 3 laptop with xubuntu 16.05
[00:15] <themoonisshining> 04
[00:17] <sere_> themoonisshining: does yours system support 64bit?
[00:18] <themoonisshining> sere_: none of the two laptops do they're pentium 3 and 4
[00:19] <pragmaticenigma> themoonisshining, it is entirely possible the PCMCIA slot is damaged... are you able to test other cards in it?
[00:19] <compdoc> "device descriptor read/64, error -110 means that USB port power supply was exceeded."
[00:19] <pragmaticenigma> compdoc, good catch
[00:19] <themoonisshining> pragmaticenigma: yes I can try
[00:20] <compdoc> try a powered usb hub
[00:20] <pragmaticenigma> themoonisshining, did you see what compdoc mentioned... Does the device connected to the USB card have it's own power supply?
[00:20] <themoonisshining> compdoc: there is a dongle that suposely connects to the usb1.0 port from that card
[00:21] <themoonisshining> but I dont'use it nor on the laptop that works
[00:21] <themoonisshining> pragmaticenigma: the dongle? could be
[00:21] <themoonisshining> I also read on dmesg it couldn't power it before but since it works on 1 laptop I figure it will work on this one
[00:22] <sere_> themoonisshining: BIOS / Peripherals to Enable IOMMU read this might help now sure though
[00:24] <compdoc> its a pci card with usb ports?
[00:25] <compdoc> oh, you said laptop
[00:25] <pragmaticenigma> compdoc, the first
[00:27] <themoonisshining> don't know its a pccard with usb2.0 ports
[00:29] <compdoc> pccard, right
[00:29] <compdoc> havent seen those in a while
[00:30] <Miguel2013> I'm here on another pc I'm gonna read this about immo
[00:30] <Miguel2013> i guess I know now why it doesn't work on windows xp either
[00:31] <compdoc> xp? yikes. you shouldnt be using that
[00:33] <Miguel2013> compdoc, i can't run 7 on this laptop with a 1gb of ram
[00:34] <compdoc> just so dangerous browsing with it. easy to infect
[00:35] <Miguel2013> I won't get online then
[00:35] <akk> Anyone good with grub and UEFI? I just installed Xenial to an Asus 1015e (UEFI, but came with Ubuntu preinstalled)
[00:35] <akk> and on reboot, I'm stuck in "error: file not found. grub rescue>"
[00:36] <Miguel2013> anyway I connected the usb cable from the usb2.0 card to the usb1.1 port and it still gives me this error
[00:37] <lotuspsychje> akk: singleboot?
[00:37] <akk> lotuspsychje: There's also a debian partition but I don't care about it, would be happy to get anything booting.
[00:37] <akk> (did I interpret your question right?)
[00:38] <lotuspsychje> akk: doublecheck if you have secureboot and fastboot disabled
[00:38] <akk> lotuspsychje: How do I check? I haven't been able to find anything like that in the bios menus.
[00:39] <lotuspsychje> akk: if its an uefi machine, those settings should be there mate, legacy/uefi
[00:39] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | akk
[00:40] <akk> lotuspsychje: I think it's EFI because occasionally things related to EFI show up, e.g. when I boot off a USB stick, one of the entries for it in the BIOS boot menu has "EFI" in the name.
[00:41] <akk> But I've never been entirely clear on it.
[00:41] <lotuspsychje> akk: well for ubuntu singleboot, try disable fastboot and secureboot..reinstall of ubuntu might be needed changing settings
[00:41] <akk> lotuspsychje: Disable it how?
[00:42] <lotuspsychje> akk: like i said, if your machine is uefi you can enter settings right?
[00:42] <akk> lotuspsychje: Enter settings where? I've been through all the BIOS menus multiple times and don't see anything.
[00:42] <lotuspsychje> akk: ok, whats your pc brand please?
[00:43] <akk> Asus 1015e
[00:43] <lotuspsychje> holdon lemme check
[00:43] <akk> It came with ubuntu preinstalled, which might possibly mean that they disabled some of the UEFI secure boot stuff.
[00:45] <lotuspsychje> akk: you bought it this way, or someone made it?
[00:45] <akk> I bought it this way, new.
[00:45] <akk> It was an option Asus offered on this model (quite a few years ago).
[00:46] <lotuspsychje> akk: wich ubuntu came on that?
[00:47] <akk> I don't remember ... let me check when I got it.
[00:47] <lotuspsychje> akk: nvm, wich ubuntu do you run now?
[00:48] <akk> Xenial is what I just tried to install.
[00:48] <akk> from a netboot iso
[00:49] <akk> When I got to the install-grub stage I expected questions about UEFI but it didn't ask any and didn't give any errors.
[00:49] <lotuspsychje> akk: your manual says F2 to enter bios settings
[00:49] <akk> yes, it's f2
[00:50] <lotuspsychje> akk: TAB boot is where you can disable fastboot
[00:50] <akk> I can enter the bios, there's just nothing there about secure boot.
[00:51] <akk> In the Boot tab, I have: Boot Configuration, which has one item, Launch PCE OpROM; then Boot Option Priorities (that's the boot order, just the internal HD);
[00:51] <akk> then submenus Add New Boot Option and Delete Boot Option.
[00:52] <lotuspsychje> akk: windows boot manager enabled?
[00:52] <akk> I don't know, how would I tell?
[00:52] <akk> There's nothing about that on this screen.
[00:52] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[00:52] <akk> I can take a photo of the screen if it would help.
[00:53] <lotuspsychje> akk: you dont see fastboot or launch csm?
[00:53] <akk> Nope.
[00:53] <lotuspsychje> akk: page 65 http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePC/1015E/E_eManual_1015E_VER7770.pdf?_ga=2.266025103.1013258644.1524444260-1792275937.1524444260
[00:53] <akk> Just Launch PXE OpROM (which is disabled, but enabling it doesn't change anything).
[00:54] <akk> I don't have Driver Option Priorities there.
[00:55] <AuroraAvenue> akk, is that you Stuart Langridge ??
[00:55] <akk> And Boot Option Priorities only has one entry: [ubuntu (PO ST320LT...]
[00:55] <akk> AuroraAvenue: no, don't know Stuart.
[00:56] <akk> If I put the cursor on Boot Option #1 (that ubuntu entry) and hit return, the menu I get offers a choice of that or Disabled.
[00:58] <lotuspsychje> akk: hmm weird
[00:58] <lotuspsychje> akk: no other settings at all on tab boot?
[00:59] <akk> nope, just what I listed above.
[00:59] <akk> Oh, btw, if I put the cursor over "Add New Boot Option" the help on the right says "Add a new EFI boot option to the boot order"
[00:59] <akk> so I'm thinking it is EFI
[00:59] <lotuspsychje> akk: doublecheck all tabs for fastboot, csm, legacy
[01:00] <akk> I've been through them all at least 5 times, not seeing anything.
[01:00] <lotuspsychje> ok mate
[01:00] <lotuspsychje> akk: can you still access grub?
[01:00] <akk> The word "Legacy" occasionally shows up in the help, e.g. for Launch PXE OpROM the help says "Controls the execution of Legacy PXE OpROM" (thanks for clearing that up, Asus)
[01:01] <akk> lotuspsychje: If I boot, I end up in "error: file not found.\ngrub rescue>"
[01:01] <akk> I'm not sure if that's actually grub or not.
[01:01] <lotuspsychje> akk: what i surely would try is burn ubuntu on a stick and try the F12 install
[01:02] <lotuspsychje> akk: so we cant rescue grub and cant install right now
[01:03] <akk> What's different about the F12 install?
[01:03] <akk> And would it help if I had a shell? I can probably get to a shell using rescue mode.
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> akk: well its justas a test, to see if it would pickup the stick
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> akk: yeah try grub recoverymode
[01:03] <akk> I can definitely boot from a usb stick.
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> akk: perhaps we can rescue old ubuntu somehow
[01:04] <akk> The old ubuntu is definitely gone -- I didn't like the partitioning so I changed all the partitions.
[01:04] <lotuspsychje> akk: at wich point things got wrong exactly?
[01:04] <akk> I've been running with this laptop for years with not enough disk space because the partitioning was wonky.
[01:05] <akk> So I finally decided it was time to risk a reinstall/repartition.
[01:05] <lotuspsychje> akk: and how did you do that?
[01:05] <akk> Up until now the grub it was booting from was the one from an LTS from 5-6 years ago, whichever one that was.
[01:06] <lotuspsychje> akk: sounds like a 12.04?
[01:06] <akk> lotuspsychje: Made a netboot ISO, dd'ed it to a usb stick, booted off the stick and followed the install prompts.
[01:06] <akk> Yeah, 12.04 sounds right.
[01:06] <akk> So that may be the grub that's still there on the disk; I suspect update-grub didn't actually write a new one though I'm not sure.
[01:07] <akk> Hmm, is there a way to get a version number from the grub rescue prompt?
[01:07] <lotuspsychje> akk: sure: lsb_release -a
[01:07] <akk> Unknown command `lsb_release'
[01:08] <oerheks> if ubuntu is the only OS, i would disable secureboot on that machine
[01:08] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: he cant find the option
[01:08] <akk> oerheks: I'd love to if you could tell me how.
[01:08] <akk> (she, not that it matters)
[01:08] <lotuspsychje> oh my bad
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> akk: try a regular 16.04 latest iso to burn on usb and F12
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> akk: maybe we get lucky to override the old leftover
[01:10] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePC/1015E/E_eManual_1015E_VER7770.pdf?_ga=2.266025103.1013258644.1524444260-1792275937.1524444260
[01:10] <lotuspsychje> ah now i can recall, maybe that was ubuntu remix netbooks
[01:11] <akk> lotuspsychje: The only reason I'm hesitating is that I have a fairly slow net connection, hesitant to download a full ISO
[01:11] <akk> (frustratingly, I have a xenial USB stick already but I loaned it to a friend and he hasn't given it back yet)
[01:11] <lotuspsychje> akk: ah yes i understand, perhaps steal a faster wifi for grabbing iso?
[01:12] <lotuspsychje> akk: did you try grub recovery?
[01:12] <lotuspsychje> want to know if we can still get in
[01:13] <akk> lotuspsychje: try it how? I've been trying typing ls <various things> in grub rescue, but so far all I've gotten is "error: unknown filesystem".
[01:13] <lotuspsychje> akk: you can drop to a rootshell with network?
[01:13] <akk> aha, ls (hd0,gpt5)/ actually lists the root filesystem
[01:14] <akk> lotuspsychje: Yes, I'm pretty sure I can get that.
[01:15] <akk> If there was some kind of update-grub command I could run, maybe in verbose mode so I could see what it was doing ...
[01:15] <akk> I haven't been having much luck googling for commandline fixes for grub/efi problems, though.
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> akk: see if you can grab current ubuntu version lsb_release -a
[01:16] <akk> okay, sec ...
[01:17] <lotuspsychje> akk: im pretty sure i installed 14.04 or 16.04 on those eee netbooks before
[01:17] <akk> this stupid bios requires so many keystrokes to boot from a usb stick every time ...
[01:18] <akk> and then so many steps in rescue mode to get to where it'll actually give me a shell (waiting for it to download a bunch of stuff now)
[01:19] <akk> It doesn't have a 'Just boot the kernel that's already on sdb5" option, first it has to download and prepare all the installer files.
[01:20] <lotuspsychje> akk: did you choose fix broken packages?
[01:20] <akk> It never asked me that option.
[01:21] <lotuspsychje> akk: at wich step are you exactly?
[01:21] <akk> Okay, whew! I finally got to "execute a shell".
[01:21] <akk> So I'm in a root shell with the proper / and /boot mounted.
[01:22] <akk> lsb_release -a says it's 16.04.4 LTS, xenial
[01:22] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[01:22] <akk> (which is right, that's the ISO I downloaded)
[01:22] <vino> sorry abt that.
[01:25] <lotuspsychje> akk: i would go for the fresh reinstall, that machine needs a new ubuntu :p
[01:26] <akk> lotuspsychje: I just installed this two hours ago!
[01:27] <akk> wait, is 18.04 out yet?
[01:27] <lotuspsychje> akk: not yet 26 april
[01:27] <lotuspsychje> akk: xenial should work fine on it
[01:28] <lotuspsychje> akk: so if you installed succesfully, and you cant boot there must be some bios setting wrong
[01:30] <akk> Maybe ... but 12.04 was booting fine, and there doesn't seem to be anything in the bios that looks relevant.
[01:30] <lotuspsychje> akk: how did you partition in setup?
[01:30] <akk> sda and b were some UEFI thing and some recovery thing, and I left them alone
[01:31] <akk> and I made partition 3 be /boot, 5 is /
[01:31] <akk> and 8 is swap
[01:31] <akk> (in between there are some spare root partitions and a big /home partition)
[01:31] <lotuspsychje> akk: ah..i would go for the full swipe, let ubuntu choose partitioning
[01:32] <chris28> chu, hi
[01:32] <akk> I don't want one big partition, I specifically want a separate /boot and /home and several root partitions.
[01:32] <chris28> chu, sorry i wasn't meant to ping you, wrong person
[01:33] <dmarr> im trying to install linux-headers-generic, but it fails with // unmet dependencies linux-headers-generic: Depends: linux-headers-4.4.0.119-generic but it is not going to be installed
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> akk: but if you leave that uefi alone, that might be the reason boot got scrambled..
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> dmarr: did you add external ppa's of any kind?
[01:34] <akk> I worry that if I overwrite those partitions, the laptop may never be salvageable.
[01:34] <dmarr> I am on 16.04.1 LTS -- kernel drivers 4.13.0-38
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> akk: no, fresh install always works
[01:34] <chris28> does the latest ubuntu come with the new AMD graphics drivers in the kernel?
[01:34] <dmarr> lotuspsychje: i may have installed one- how do i check?
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> !sources | dmarr
[01:35] <akk> lotuspsychje: That's a joke, ha ha, right?
[01:35] <lotuspsychje> dmarr: !ppapurge your external ppa's and upgrade your system quick to 16.04.4
[01:35] <akk> (Tried a fresh install on my friend's Acer and it was a total disaster. He ended up having to download a new copy of Windows and then install ubuntu in a VM.)
[01:35] <akk> And that was a "take all the defaults, let ubuntu partition the disk however it wants" install.
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> akk: no, im not joking i always do full swipe and install ubuntu fresh
[01:36] <akk> Ubuntu (and probably all linuces) clearly has problems with UEFI on some laptops.
[01:36] <akk> I had hoped that this one wasn't one of them because it CAME with ubuntu, but apparently that doesn't help.
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> akk: i never had one system yet, that didnt want to install ubuntu yet
[01:37] <akk> lotuspsychje: Google acer ubuntu and you'll find hundreds of examples. Also: never buy an Acer.
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> akk: im using acer one atm, so untrue
[01:37] <akk> Really? Interesting.
[01:37] <bazhang> akk whats the ubuntu support issue
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> akk: and as i said before, i recall installing later ubuntu on those asus EEE netbooks
[01:38] <akk> When I asked here (it was a couple weeks ago) everybody had horror stories about acer and said it's perfectly normal that the install ends up bricking it.
[01:38] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: ubuntu asus EEE netbook, she has error: file not found.\ngrub rescue after install
[01:38] <akk> Asus is usually better (not like acer at all) but maybe this one is an exception. :(
[01:38] <akk> This isn't an EEE
[01:38] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, asus is the eeebook
[01:39] <bazhang> akk so you are having an issue with some acer netbook or the like
[01:40] <bazhang> akk mind sharing some of the system specs on that computer
[01:40] <akk> this is a 1015e, celeron from a couple years after the eee line was discontinued, I'm installing 64-bit
[01:42] <dmarr> !ppapurge
[01:42] <akk> Anyone know anything about grub-install syntax? I wonder if the problem here is that it tried installing to sda rather than the boot partition sda3.
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> akk: if you succeeded the ubuntu install, something must be wrong with either partioning, or uefi setting
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> akk: so what i would try is reinstall, full swipe with ubuntu partition automaticly
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> akk: if you dont like layout, you can change afterwards right
[01:46] <akk> Not easily. Have you ever tried to use gparted to resize a partition on a 300G disk? It takes DAYS (if it ever finishes, I've always given up after a day).
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> akk: and never give away your xenial usb again :p
[01:46] <akk> :)
[01:48] <mikeymop> has anyone gotten arc theme to install on 1804?
[01:48] <mikeymop> it looks really strange if you enable it
[01:48] <mikeymop> also, does anyone know how to get hte stock gnome panel and not the ambiance one?
[01:48] <mikeymop> I tried installing gnome-session
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> mikeymop: #ubuntu+1 for bionic talk please
[01:49] <akk> All the pages I find on grub rescue have disk partitions that look like (hd0,msdosN) and mine are all (hd0,gptN), I wonder what that means.
[01:49] <mikeymop> lotuspsychje: ty
[01:50] <akk> I wish there was some documentation somewhere on the grub rescue commands!
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> !recovergrub | akk
[01:51] <akk> I can set root= and set prefix=, but then everbody says to insmod something, and both insmod linux and insmod normal give "file not found".
[01:51] <dmarr> lotuspsychje: its odd that i installed fresh 16.0.4 LTS Desktop but go no prompts to upgrade, even after running Software Updater
[01:51] <akk> There is of course no lsmod.
[01:51] <bazhang> akk #grub has a channel and a wiki
[01:51] <rud0lf> guys i need absolute minimal ubuntu, non-gui, just sshd into
[01:51] <rud0lf> least packets, only basic setup
[01:51] <rud0lf> can you help me?
[01:51] <bazhang> !mini | rud0lf
[01:51] <akk> oh, thanks, I'll try that, bazhang
[01:51] <dmarr> would i use do-release-updgrade to get to the version you suggested?
[01:52] <rud0lf> cool
[01:52] <rud0lf> thanks baz :)
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> dmarr: you said you had 16.04.1?
[01:52] <dmarr> lotuspsychje: i assumed so when i run uname -a and it shows that
[01:52] <dmarr> #43~16.04.1-Ubuntu
[01:52] <akk> And thanks for that recovergrub link, lotuspsychje, I'll try some of those commands if I can't find any help on grub rescue.
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> dmarr: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[01:53] <dmarr> lotuspsychje: that was what I saw after the 16.04.4 download
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> akk: reinstall fresh hint hint :p
[01:54] <dmarr> lotuspsychje: ok -- i guess do-release-upgrade is bringing me to v17
[01:54] <akk> lotuspsychje: I hear you but I still say that I just did a fresh install, so I don't have your confidence that it would change anything.
[01:54] <akk> I will try it if I can't find any way to reinstall grub from this install.
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> akk: yeah but you avoided some existing partitions
[01:55] <akk> (I'm still afraid that overwriting those two partitions will brick the system even worse)
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> akk: ubuntu cant brick a system
[01:56] <akk> lotuspsychje: It seems to have just bricked mine, in the sense of not being able to boot. Hopefully not permanently though.
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> akk: you didnt brick, ubuntu is not installed correctly
[01:58] <akk> I was using brick in the soft-brick sense of going from a usable system to an unusable one.
[02:00] <akk> Sorry, getting frustrated after hours of this.
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> akk: then dont be stubborn and reinstall fresh
[02:01] <akk> It's not just stubbornness, it's not wanting to risk losing those partitions.
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> akk: an empty hd needs new partitions?
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> akk: or you got data on them?
[02:02] <akk> There's data on there from asus. One of them is labeled "recovery partition".
[02:02] <akk> Which if I could figure out how to access it, might help me get the computer working again.
[02:02] <akk> The other is labeled EFI something, so it might be important to booting.
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> akk: mostly those partitions hold windows drivers n such
[02:03] <hggdh> b
[02:03] <akk> This computer never had windows on it.
[02:03] <akk> It came with Ubuntu from the factory.
[02:03] <akk> Just ubuntu, not dual-boot.
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> akk: yea you told me before
[02:04] <akk> Just meant that it seems unlikely it would have windows drivers.
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> akk: anyway..i did like tons of formats with ubuntu with full swipe auto partioning, never go wrong for me once..
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> akk: so this said ill rest my case, or its wrong uefi setting, or wrong partitoning
[02:10] <dmarr> weird this 17.10 upgrade just left me at the login screen with no mouse movement
[02:10] <dmarr> no keyboard interaction either
[02:11] <dmarr> hard reboot fixed it /shrug
[02:14] <akk> Actually it looks like the ubuntu installer may not handle separate /boot right at all.
[02:14] <akk> The /boot/grub/grub.cfg file has a lot of stuff like set root="hd1,gpt3" where root should be hd0,gpt5.
[02:15] <akk> The 3 might be right because I know sometimes grub says root when it means boot, but the hd1 seems wrong regardless.
[02:15] <dmarr> and when I try to run software updater now it says I need to do a 'partial upgrade'. but after authing, nothing happens
[02:16] <i-make-robots> i'm using a rescue disk.  i made sure my hostname matches /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.  i still get failures when bringing enp0s16 up (tho it does go up) and any attempt to resolve a domain name.  i can ping the router.  what am I missing, please?
[02:16] <i-make-robots> dmesg is unhelpful
[02:18] <dmarr> here we go. xorg had failed to install
[02:20] <oerheks> on 17.10 > after edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts ,  systemctl restart systemd-logind.service # or hostnamectl set-hostname NEW_NAME_HERE would do it instantly, temporarely
[02:20] <akk> Aha! grub-install /dev/sdb gives a bunch of errors, which the installer ignored and didn't bother to relay.
[02:20] <oerheks> else you need a reboot,, but that would be silly on a rescuedisk
[02:22] <i-make-robots> oerheks - was that for me?  i'm trying to figure out why i can't resolve domain names when i can ping the router which is online.
[02:23] <i-make-robots> earlier in the evening i had the default rescue hostname (ubuntu) which i later realized was not the one in the hostnames file.  I rebooted and used the correct hostname, but I'm still can't ping google because it doesn't know wtf google.com is.
[02:23] <oerheks> reset the router
[02:24] <i-make-robots> i made sure to update /etc/network/interfaces to change eth0 into enp0s16 and make sure it was auto
[02:24] <akk> Also, grub-install is "installing for i386-pc platform"
[02:24] <i-make-robots> when i ifdown/ifup it says it failed ot up enp0s16, but then ifconfig says it's up with the correct static ip.
[02:24] <i-make-robots> i'll try the router reset.
[02:24] <i-make-robots> disconnecting for a moment...
[02:24] <akk> and ls /usr/lib/grub has i386-pc but doesn't have x86_64 even though the version of ubuntu I installed was amd64.
[02:26] <i-make-robots> still can't resvolve hosts...
[02:26] <i-make-robots> afk
[02:34] <akk> In this shell, networking works but DNS doesn't apparently because a resolvconf daemon isn't running.
[02:35] <akk> I can ping 91.189.94.40 (ubuntu.com) but putting 8.8.8.8 in /etc/resolv.conf doesn't work to resolve hostnames (so I can't apt-get install the missing grub pieces).
[02:36] <akk> I guess I could edit /etc/hosts ...
[02:37] <Randolf> akk:  You could run your own instance of ISC Bind and add 127.0.0.1 into /etc/resolv.conf.  That's what I do, and it works well.
[02:38] <Randolf> By using an external DNS server you're adding another potential point of failure into your configuration.
[02:38] <Randolf> Use externals as a backup in case your own has problems, that's fine, but running your own can work very well.
[02:39] <akk> I'd have to install bind first, right?
[02:40] <akk> I should definitely look into that in general, though, thanks Randolf
[02:40] <Randolf> Yes, you will need to do that.
[02:40] <Randolf> It supports IPv6 and IPv4.
[02:40] <Randolf> You'll want to look into the configuration for which IP addresses it listens on.
[02:41] <akk> The problem was not being able to install anything because the mirror locations in sources.list didn't resolve.
[02:41] <Randolf> If you don't want to be an involentary resolver for external systems, then that will be of particular help to you.
[02:41] <Randolf> Oh.
[02:41] <akk> I added us.archive.ubuntu.com to /etc/hosts as a temporary fix.
[02:41] <Randolf> Can you resolve www.randolfrichardson.com?
[02:41] <akk> No.
[02:41] <Randolf> Yeah, you've either got DNS issues or routing problems.
[02:42] <Randolf> Firewall?
[02:42] <Randolf> UDP port 53.
[02:42] <akk> Randolf: I'm running a shell booted from recovery mode on an installer USB stick, which supposedly started the network but apparently didn't really.
[02:42] <akk> It spends all this time before giving me a shell in setting up things like the network, then throws it all away once the shell is started.
[02:44] <akk> I have now installed grub-efi-amd64 but I'm still trying to figure out what arguments it wants.
[02:45] <akk> So weird that the ubuntu installer for amd64 only installs the i386 version of grub.
[02:46] <yousuc> any1 notice an issue with 18.04 and intel cpu/gpu causing machine to hardlock with gnome-shell fault
[02:47] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 18.o4 yousuc
[02:47] <yousuc> aiight thx
[02:50] <Randolf> akk:  So if you type this command, what do you see?  ifconfig -av
[02:50] <Randolf> akk:  So if you type this command, what do you see?  ifconfig -a
[02:51] <Randolf> (Sorry, -v only works on NetBSD.)
[02:51] <Randolf> akk:  Also, do you normally have NAT configured on that system?
[02:55] <akk> Randolf: Yes, though right now it's a brand-new system -- I'm trying to get my install to boot.
[02:56] <akk> But I'm giving up for the night (having spent the last 6 hours on this). Maybe tomorrow I'll try wiping out the recovery and EFI partitions like lotuspsychje says I should.
[02:56] <akk> Thanks for the help, lotuspsychje! And g'night.
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> akk: np
[02:57] <amazoniantoad> When I try to install prolog packages I get the following error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3yjRbf7TQd/ Can someone help me figure out what to do?
[03:00] <Randolf> amazoniantoad:  Have you tried installing the needed packages separately?
[03:00] <amazoniantoad> Yes Randolf
[03:00] <Randolf> Oh.  Errors with those too?
[03:00] <amazoniantoad> Yes
[03:00] <amazoniantoad> Should I try to do this with pip?
[03:01] <Randolf> I don't know the answer to that.
[03:02] <Randolf> What error do you see when you try this?  apt install swi-prolog-nox
[03:02]  * Randolf is just trying:  apt install swi-prolog
[03:03] <amazoniantoad> Randolf, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gBHfT2TTYs/
[03:03] <Randolf> It installed for me without any problems on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
[03:04] <amazoniantoad> Randolf, so I guess my problem is holding broken packages. How should I approach this?
[03:05] <Randolf> Are you running on a production machine?
[03:05] <amazoniantoad> I don't know what you mean by that. I need it for school
[03:05] <Randolf> Well, "production" as opposed to "test."
[03:06] <Randolf> If it's not for a "production" environment, then you could try:  apt update
[03:06] <Randolf> ...and then:  apt upgrade
[03:06]  * amazoniantoad crosses fingers
[03:06] <Randolf> The problem is that I don't know why your packages are "broken" and so it's possible that an apt upgrade could fail and leave your system in a worse state.
[03:06] <Randolf> You should have backups before proceeding.
[03:07] <amazoniantoad> too late
[03:07] <Randolf> Hopefully it works then.
[03:07] <SlidingHorn> amazoniantoad: you have broken packages - do you have any PPAs enabled?
[03:07] <amazoniantoad> If I don't return, tell people my story
[03:07]  * Randolf laughs
[03:07] <Randolf> You're so dramatic.  I like your dramatic flare!
[03:08]  * amazoniantoad stops holding himself
[03:08] <amazoniantoad> ...it, worked?
[03:08] <amazoniantoad> Maybe?
[03:08] <amazoniantoad> No errors.
[03:08] <amazoniantoad> Didn't install.
[03:08] <Randolf> Are you using any PPAs?  SlidingHorn asked a good question.
[03:09] <amazoniantoad> yes
[03:09] <Randolf> Which ones?
[03:09] <amazoniantoad> i'll list it in paste
[03:11] <SlidingHorn> amazoniantoad: also, which version & flavor of ubuntu are you using?
[03:11] <amazoniantoad> SlidingHorn, Randolf https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WnGw6kSTTM/
[03:12] <amazoniantoad> ubuntu 16.04
[03:12] <SlidingHorn> wow...that's a lot...
[03:12] <amazoniantoad> ...sorry
[03:13] <amazoniantoad> Want me to clean it up?
[03:14] <Randolf> Simpler is often better.
[03:14] <amazoniantoad> okay
[03:14] <SlidingHorn> Well first, it looks like your teamviewer repos are for Debian and not Ubuntu, which could have an effect on why your original error said you may be using an unstable distribution
[03:14] <Randolf> I was able to install and run prolog without any PPAs.
[03:14] <amazoniantoad> hm
[03:15] <SlidingHorn> One should always try to avoid PPAs whenever possible
[03:15] <amazoniantoad> I didn't know that
[03:15] <Randolf> I used one within the past few weeks because someone I'm supporting needed PHP5.  I've not used any others, and I want to get rid of that PPA sooner rather than later anyway.
[03:16] <SlidingHorn> also, you're using an outside PPA for prolog, when there's a version in the normal repos
[03:17] <SlidingHorn> same with obs-studio
[03:18] <SlidingHorn> ...and TOR...
[03:19] <SlidingHorn> why did you enable all of these PPAs??  At this point, I'd almost just recommend a full reinstall because there's so much extra outside stuff installed that I wouldn't know where to start
[03:19] <amazoniantoad> It's complaining because I have newer versions of dependencies than what it wants
[03:19] <Randolf> amazoniantoad:  It looks like SlidingHorn figured out what the problem is -- PPAs.
[03:19] <amazoniantoad> I disabled them
[03:20] <SlidingHorn> amazoniantoad: did you uninstall all the stuff you installed from them?
[03:20] <amazoniantoad> No
[03:20] <SlidingHorn> amazoniantoad: then you're going to run into the same dependency problems
[03:21] <SlidingHorn> I've found t leasat 4 different applications you unnecessarily used an outside PPA for
[03:24] <amazoniantoad> I think what I'm going to do is just use xen whenever I need ppa's. Would that be a good idea?
[03:25] <amazoniantoad> I mean *need* not just suggested, didn't know I shouldn't use ppa's either
[03:25] <SlidingHorn> that's the thing...you should *very* rarely need PPAs
[03:26] <amazoniantoad> Yeah I'll just stick to the main repos for now on
[03:27] <amazoniantoad> Thanks guys
[03:27] <amazoniantoad> ttyl
[04:03] <i-make-robots> ifconfig says epn0s16 is up, i have the correct hostname, I can ping the router, but I can't resolve any host names like google.com.  dmesg doesn't say anything of note.  please: what should I be looking for?
[04:04] <i-make-robots> ./etc/hosts and /etc/hostnames seem ok based on tutorials i found online.  i also tried rebooting the router.
[04:05] <mniip> i-make-robots, /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:06] <i-make-robots> i'll check.
[04:10] <i-make-robots> mniip - /etc/resolve.conf was empty, /etc/resolvconf/interface-order listed many devices but not my enp0s16, so i added enp*.
[04:10] <i-make-robots> trying an ifdown/ifup since it hasn't worked yet.
[04:10] <teward> imbezol: /etc/resolve.conf is *not* /etc/resolv.conf which was requested
[04:10] <i-make-robots> my typo
[04:11] <i-make-robots> are you always that polite?
[04:13] <i-make-robots> ifdown/ifup doesn't seem to have changed anything.
[04:19] <guiverc> i-make-robots, if you can ping 8.8.8.8 (google dns) but not say google.com; your DNS (domain name service) isn't work (one part of it is in /etc/resolv.conf) - a quick fix is to add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolv.conf which will force usage of google's dns (try pinging things again).  this is a quick fix which will be overwritten by a reboot.  i can't help more now sorry (maybe someone else can)
[04:19] <guiverc> fyi: DNS converts names like google.com to their ip address (numbers, ipv4 or ipv6)
[04:24] <Randolf> After working with Ubuntu Linux for a few weeks (I'm still new to it), I'm finding that I really like it.  It feels stable, and it boots so quickly.
[04:24] <Randolf> I'm impressed, and very happy with it.
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: glad to hear and welcome to the ubuntu community
[04:25] <Randolf> Thank you, lotuspsychje.
[04:26] <i-make-robots> guiverc - thank you, that seems to have helped.  i can now resolve domains.
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | guiverc
[04:27] <Randolf> Cookies?  Neat-o!
[04:30] <i-make-robots> now i can apt-get, which might help me solve the larger issue: I can't seem to rsync or scp data from my server (being rescued) to my NAS.  it has an NFS account which I can't seem to mount, and tho i can ssh to it I can't scp.
[04:30] <i-make-robots> any idea why?
[04:32] <i-make-robots> will try scp with -vv
[04:36] <i-make-robots> ah, scp is missing from the NAS box?
[06:25] <c1-01> wwwwwww
[06:25] <c1-01> kalhspera
[06:25] <c1-01> ti ginetai
[06:26] <c1-01> καλως τον
[06:37] <Guest11764> good morning. I have dual boot installed. the laptop felt down and now ai dont see ubuntu option in the boot option. what can I do, and to keep my files?  thank you very.much
[06:44] <Marvin1> good morning. I have dual boot installed in my laptop but yesterday the computer felt down and now I can' t see the option to choose Ubuntu in the boot, only the other partition that is with Windows. I had put the Iso of ubuntu into usb, but didnt reconize. How can I get back ubuntu and the files?
[06:44] <EriC^^> Marvin1: are you getting grub?
[06:44] <Marvin1> how can I check it?
[06:45] <Marvin1> pls
[06:45] <EriC^^> Marvin1: in the screen that ubuntu is missing in, it's the same old purple screen?
[06:46] <Marvin1> no. When I turn on the computer starts directly with windows
[06:46] <EriC^^> Marvin1: which pc model is it?
[06:46] <EriC^^> which windows?
[06:46] <Marvin1> and if I use F2 to access the boot option, I can't see ubuntu anymore
[06:46] <EriC^^> aha
[06:47] <Marvin1> 8
[06:47] <EriC^^> you'll need a live usb
[06:47] <EriC^^> why didnt the other one work?
[06:48] <Marvin1> I will try to get info about how make a live usb. I supose that is diferent from the iso, that I ve downloaded and recorded in the usb
[06:49] <EriC^^> Marvin1: go to https://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download and make the live usb
[06:49] <EriC^^> then ask in the channel again to continue fixing it
[06:58] <tezogmix> anyone have a proper firefox-esr PPA link?
[06:59] <tezogmix> from the launchpad, there seems to be a few maintainer authors...
[07:03] <Zajt> Hi! I saw now that a text string "test" appears at the top of the terminal window when I open a new terminal, in what file may this be placed so I can remove it?
[07:06] <guiverc> tezogmix, i suspect there isn't one.  there was a discussion not to long ago about firefox-ppa on the (ubuntu) hub or somewhere (even what was involved in using debian's)
[07:10] <osse> Zajt: most likely .bashrc
[07:10] <Zajt> oh yeah ofc I should have checked that one, thanks
[07:15] <somebody> When trying to create a WiFi hotspot on kubuntu, I get an error message.
[07:16] <somebody> "IP configuration not available"
[07:21] <somebody> does anybody have an idea?
[07:23] <darthrocker> "sudo ifconfig" ?
[07:24] <somebody> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XpTNWmn9Yk
[07:25] <darthrocker> what are you using to create the hotspot with?
[07:25] <darthrocker> waht tools?
[07:25] <somebody> darthrocker: umm, networkmanager?
[07:26] <darthrocker> I've never tried it like that ... the two or three times i did it i used aircrack-ng
[07:27] <darthrocker> i did it that way because i had my laptop plugged in via ethernet
[07:27] <somebody> Hm. The weird thing is, a few days ago it worked fine, and now i can't start it
[07:30] <mst89> hi guys. every time I move/resize a window with super+arrow, ubuntu switches to terminal (and resizes the window). how can I fix this?
[07:31] <somebody> mst89: maybe this helps?
[07:31] <somebody> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1508146
[07:33] <mst89> @somebody thanks a lot!
[07:34] <somebody> mst89: you're welcome
[07:44] <jpe> Does anyone know if bluetooth A2DP support is improved in the new Ubuntu? I'm running 16.04 and it works sometimes, but occasionally it just refuses to switch to A2DP and I get "a2dp_sink: High Fidelity Playback (A2DP Sink) (priority 10, available: no)" when running "pacmd list-cards". Restarting pulseaudio and bluetoothctl, disconnecting and reconnecting a bunch of times eventually fixes it but it takes about 20 mins of messing about (rebooting doesn't
[07:44] <jpe> help either).
[07:53] <sere_> what language is ubuntu program in?
[07:53] <somebody> sere_: If you mean the linux kernel, that is in C
[07:54] <sere_> somebody: yea oh ok thanks
[07:54] <somebody> If anybody has an idea about my hotspot/NetworkManager problem, I'd be glad
[07:54] <somebody> sere_: https://github.com/torvalds/linux
[08:02] <sere_> 100% ALERT - /snap/spotify/6
[08:02] <sere_> Usage warning on 70
[08:02] <sere_> 100% ALERT - /snap/core/4206
[08:03] <sere_> those are my security check errors?
[08:05] <pax_rhos> hello
[08:05] <somebody> hi
[08:05] <pax_rhos> am having weird problems with network services
[08:05] <pax_rhos> ifconfig shows I have enp3s0 ethernet interface
[08:06] <pax_rhos> I do 'ifdown enp3s0' and get 'Unknown interface enp3s0'
[08:06] <pax_rhos> how so?
[08:08] <somebody> pax_rhos: I don't know about that but I get the same message for all my interfaces
[08:16] <ducasse> pax_rhos: there's probably no stanza for that interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:17] <pax_rhos> ducasse: so how do I fix it?
[08:17] <pax_rhos> do I just add it there?
[08:18] <ducasse> if you want to use ifup/ifdown you need to add a configuration for it, yes
[08:19] <somebody_> ducasse: I have problems setting up a wifi hotspot with networkmanager, can you help me?
[08:20] <ducasse> somebody_: sorry, not familiar with that
[08:20] <somebody_> Okay :/
[08:22] <sere_> Usage warning on 70
[08:22] <sere_> 100% ALERT - /snap/core/4206
[08:22] <sere_> those are my security check errors?
[08:27] <qswz> https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/lkcr/docs/chromium_browser_vs_google_chrome.md
[08:27] <qswz> which of chromium / chrome are you guys using? and why.
[08:27] <cfhowlett> doesn't matter what WE use, qswz.  use what works for YOU.  YOUR box, YOUR responsibility.
[08:28] <qswz> both works :), I mean..
[08:28] <qswz> interested to see some little advtanges
[08:29]  * qswz checking if mp3 works on chromium
[08:30] <qswz> ok, does
[08:31] <qswz> total installed size is slightly higher for chromium 202MB vs 188MB
[08:32] <qswz> (when doing sudo apt remove chromium-browser / google-chrome-stable you see the size
[08:33] <qswz> also I've chromium 65, and chrome 66, chromium takes more time to get updated
[08:39] <necrophcodr> Hi everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 17.10, and I've found that after installing virtualbox from the repositories and creating a simple VM, I cannot access the toolbar. There simply isn't one. This is on a fresh install too.
[08:40] <cfhowlett> necrophcodr, do you mean the vbox toolbar?
[08:40] <necrophcodr> At home on my Gentoo machine, it works fine, and it works on my Ubuntu 16.04 as well.
[08:40] <necrophcodr> cfhowlett: yes exactly. The one where you can, for instance, install the guest additions.
[08:40] <tasuki> so... I executed "pm-hibernate" on my 16.04 desktop and now I can't boot.....
[08:41] <tasuki> adding "noresume" to boot params didn't help
[08:41] <tasuki> neither did "nomodeset"
[08:42] <cfhowlett> necrophcodr, the host-F do trigger between full screen and scaled screen
[08:42] <tasuki> I can boot without the graphical interface and get a cli
[08:42] <cfhowlett> failing that, talk to #vbox, necrophcodr
[08:42] <necrophcodr> Thanks, I'll join that channel then.
[08:42] <tasuki> but not sure how I can fix the graphical stuff
[08:43] <tasuki> I mean I can boot to recovery mode
[08:43] <tasuki> but then "service lightdm start" fails again
[08:46] <mancman3> tasuki: sudo systemctl start lightdm
[08:52] <tasuki> mancman3 I tried something like that
[08:52] <tasuki> apparently one of my disks is corrupted and that's why it didn't start
[08:52] <mancman3> fsck
[08:52] <tasuki> I don't get why it's so difficult to find that message anywhere though...
[08:52] <tasuki> no logs, just purple screen
[08:53] <tasuki> ubuntu used to be so much user friendlier...
[08:53] <tasuki> but thanks mancman3 :)
[08:54] <mancman3> did u try startx from tty1
[08:58] <tasuki> removing the broken partition from /etc/fstab has helped
[09:04] <necrophcodr> So I've installed Virtualbox directly from the virtualbox website as opposed to the Ubuntu 17.10 repositories, and now the toolbar menu works.
[09:04] <necrophcodr> So it seems the 17.10 virtualbox version is broken.
[09:06] <leomonor89> Hola
[09:07] <MrM1st> Hi all
[09:08] <dante_motor> hola
[09:08] <MrM1st> I'm having problems booting the new kernel, 4.13.0-38 on my laptop. Jumping back to 4.13.0-37 seems to work, but 4.13.0-38 just freezes. Anyone know how I debug this?
[09:15] <brainwash> MrM1st: you could test -39 which is in -proposed
[09:16] <MrM1st> brainwash: How do i enable proposed? And would it drag with it a lot of other stuff as well?
[09:16] <brainwash> !proposed
[09:16] <MrM1st> I'm using aptitude, editing config files by hand etc
[09:16] <brainwash> you could only install the newer linux packages
[09:17] <brainwash> I assume that there other packages waiting in -proposed which you may not want
[09:17] <logy> Hi everyone i need quick help plz. I am trying to boot from dvd/usb windows installation. Its a totally new unpacked asus x751n. The problem is it loads endless os, i searched and tryed EVERYTHING in bios but there is no option. BUT when endless starts booting i press esc and it stops at Grub> is it possible to boot from usb/dvd by using Grub???
[09:17] <brainwash> MrM1st: probably bug 1765110
[09:17] <brainwash> >The proposed kernel 4.13.0-39-generic is working.
[09:18] <MrM1st> brainwash: It freezes even before the login screen here though..
[09:19] <ducasse> logy: endless os is not supported here, only official ubuntu flavors
[09:19] <guiverc> logy, this is a Ubuntu support channel, endless and windows are not Ubuntu and thus offtopic. Yes you can, but we can't help you sorry as its offtopic.
[09:19] <Exterminador> hello guys. does anyone know a good tutorial for noobs about LVM? I'm failing to understand how it works to add a 2 disk on my VPS
[09:20] <brainwash> MrM1st: either test -39, or wait for ubuntu 18.04 which will come with kernel 4.15
[09:20] <logy> As I am a ubuntu user I thought you would help me :), asus support doesn't work
[09:20] <MrM1st> brainwash: I'll try -39. When is 18.04 due?
[09:21] <guiverc> logy, as a Ubuntu user we are most happy to help you with Ubuntu questions, and Ubuntu support, but not making a machine running a non-Ubuntu run another non-Ubuntu OS
[09:21] <brainwash> MrM1st: 26th april I think
[09:21] <Gargravarr> MrM1st: April 26th
[09:21] <MrM1st> Aaaah
[09:21] <logy> T_T
[09:22] <MrM1st> brainwash: found info on how to selectively choose packages from -proposed
[09:23] <logy> Cmon guiverc help me <3
[09:24] <logy> I have feelings for you <333
[09:24] <bazhang> logy, ##windows for windows support
[09:24] <ducasse> logy: as we said, we only support ubuntu
[09:24] <bazhang> logy, its simply not topical here logy
[09:24] <logy> Think of me as a hot chick, help me now?
[09:25] <HotChickJessica> Maybe now?
[09:28] <Exterminador> also, if using LVM to add the 2nd disk, will I lose the data in the 1st one? the disk "location" is /dev/vda (OS and stuff) and /dev/vdb (150GB of empty space). or if someone can just guide me.
[09:34] <guiverc> Exterminador, yes you can add/remove disks/drives to lvm without wiping existing data - but I don't use it enough to guide or help you (i've only done it on real machines, not vps but don't believe that'd make a difference)
[09:37] <MrM1st> brainwash: Installing .39-kernel now
[09:37] <Exterminador> I've been also looking into Webmin (it has the option) but honestly I don't understand it well enough. it's a big thing to do and I'm afraid to ruin things (it's not my VPS but I'm on charge of it)
[09:39] <bazhang> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu Exterminador
[09:39] <ducasse> Exterminador: if /dev/vda is not already a logical volume you need to erase all data to make it into one
[09:40] <guiverc> i haven't touched webmin in years; at first i liked it but the moment I realized it deleted all comments in .conf files (wiping the doco) I didn't touch it again.... (maybe its changed)
[09:40] <Exterminador> bazhang: the VPS is still on 16.04. ducasse, so, I'd lose all the data?
[09:40] <MrM1st> brainwash: 4.13.0-39 doesn't work either
[09:41] <ducasse> Exterminador: if no lvm is already set up on /dev/vda, yes
[09:41] <MrM1st> I don't know how to debug this, as it freezes before I get in to the system at all. Any tips?
[09:42] <Exterminador> ducasse: I don't think there's already a LVM setup. any easy way to check it?
[09:43] <vlt> Exterminador: `vgs`
[09:44] <Exterminador> /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory :/
[09:44] <vlt> Exterminador: The concept of LVM is quite simple. You take one or more source devices and turn them into a so called "physical volume" to be used by LVM.
[09:45] <vlt> Exterminador: You then create a "volume group". A volume can contain any number of "logical volumes".
[09:46] <brainwash> MrM1st: you could boot without "quiet splash" parameters, and see what error is printed when using the faulty kernel(s)
[09:46] <vlt> Exterminador: Later you can add or remove physical volumes, add or remove logical volumes and de- or increase their size.
[09:46] <MrM1st> brainwash: Trying...
[09:47] <MrM1st> brainwash: Trying -38 now. I just remove "quit splash" from the command line, right? And push F10?
[09:48] <vlt> Exterminador: In your case you could make /dev/vdb a physical volume `pvcreate /dev/vdb`, then create the vg `vgcreate vg_name /dev/vdb`
[09:48] <brainwash> MrM1st: I guess so
[09:50] <MrM1st> remove quiet splash, just freezes the lines in the output
[09:51] <MrM1st> brainwash: I tried the functioning kernel the same way, and it's a lot more output.
[09:52] <brainwash> MrM1st: the last lines right before it freezes are the important ones
[09:53] <MrM1st> brainwash: Nothing comes up. Except Loading Linux 4.13.0-38 ...\nLoading initial ramdisk ...\n <freeze>
[09:54] <Exterminador> vlt: /dev/vdb is mounted in /mnt/data. does that interfere? should I unmount it?
[09:54] <MrM1st> brainwash: I jumped back to the 4.13.0-38 kernel, since the 39-kernel froze the same way
[09:55] <vlt> Exterminador: Of course.
[09:56] <vlt> Exterminador: Do you have any data on that device you want to keep?
[09:57] <Exterminador> afaik, no
[09:57] <vlt> Exterminador: I just read "(150GB of empty space)", so ok.
[09:57] <brainwash> MrM1st: no idea then. I suggest asking in #ubuntu-kernel. people over there should be able to tell you how to debug the problem.
[09:57] <MrM1st> brainwash: thanks for trying anyway :)
[09:59] <Exterminador> inside /mnt/data I just have a folder named lost+found
[09:59] <Exterminador> and it's empty, so I assume I have nothing to lose there
[10:01] <vlt> Exterminador: Yes, that's fine. Unmount it and preoceed.
[10:01] <vlt> -e
[10:03] <Exterminador> I'm having: umount: /mnt/data: target is busy
[10:03] <EriC^^> Exterminador: you might have it as your current working dir
[10:04] <Exterminador> erm. EriC^^, you're correct. I was inside it. -.-
[10:05] <Exterminador> success unmounting :D
[10:05] <Norux> hi EriC^^ :)
[10:05] <EriC^^> hey Norux :)
[10:07] <Exterminador> this appeared: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GQpp3bTnGH/
[10:08] <aLeSD_> hi all
[10:08] <aLeSD_> how could I generate a hashed password ?
[10:09] <EriC^^> aLeSD_: can you elaborate?
[10:09] <Exterminador> is it safe to proceed with the volume creation?
[10:11] <sere_> can you build a custom kernel on use it on multiple machines
[10:13] <JimBuntu> sere_, sure
[10:14] <Marvin1> Good morning. I had dual boot installed in my computer but since it falled on the ground I dont have anymore the ubuntu boot option in the bios. I installed lili boot, created the usb live but when I restart bios dont run from usb and open the windows from hdd. What could be happening?
[10:14] <Exterminador> vlt: I've successfully created the volume group.
[10:14] <Marvin1> help pls, windows is so bad. I miss my ubuntu
[10:16] <Exterminador> Marvin1: did you canged the boot order to boot from USB?
[10:16] <Marvin1> sure
[10:17] <JimBuntu> Marvin1, You say this change happened after physically dropping the laptop on the ground?
[10:17] <Marvin1> yes, it was
[10:18] <JimBuntu> Does the USB port work within Windows at all?
[10:18] <Marvin1> yes, I can open the folder and see the files
[10:19] <JimBuntu> Do you have any other bootable USB media? If so, have you tried them? If not, please make one and try it.
[10:21] <Marvin1> how can I make the bootable usb media? Lili doen' t suposse that do that?
[10:21] <Marvin1> I am doing the process again, but I dont think it will work
[10:22] <Exterminador> Marvin1: in Windows I've always used Rufus. last time was almost 2 yearsago
[10:22] <rud0lf> i had similar problem, windows somehow overwritten boot sector in usb
[10:22] <rud0lf> eject usb before reboot
[10:22] <rud0lf> physically and logically
[10:23] <Marvin1> ok, I will try that, and then with rufus. Thanks
[10:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:24] <Norux> hi
[10:25] <Marvin1> Now lili show me a message . The iso is correct but is  corrupted. This is the 3rd time that showed me this. I ve downloaded from their resources
[10:27] <Exterminador> Marvin1: try to download the Ubuntu ISO again and try with Rufus. somehow Ubuntu image can be corrupted
[10:27] <Marvin1> Ok, I will do that. Thank you very much
[10:27] <Norux> __always__ check sha256 or md5sum
[10:32] <iodev> Hello
[10:33] <iodev> Quetzal2 that was release 13.04?
[10:33] <iodev> or was it 13.10? my memory fails me, or was it 12?
[10:34] <JimBuntu> 12
[10:35] <iodev> JimBuntu :-)
[10:35] <iodev> 26th April: Stable Ubuntu 18.04 LTS release
[10:35] <Quetzal2> 12.10 I guess :)
[10:35] <JimBuntu> !party | iodev
[10:35] <Quetzal2> 12.04 was pangolin
[10:36] <iodev> ah sorry
[10:36] <JimBuntu> yes, 12.10 from Oct 2012
[10:37] <Quetzal2> yep! 12.10 Quantal Quetzal :D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_version_history
[10:38] <Exterminador> well, I've create the volume group. but now I'm stuck. how the heck do I add /dev/vda to the volume group I've just created without losing the data. on /dev/vda I have the OS, IRCd running, icecast and stuff like that. or how to save it somewhere and then restore it (without losing symlinks and all of that)
[10:47] <marvin1> hi again. I am in the ubuntu by usb. I think it worked taking out and put again in the bios moment
[10:49] <marvin1> now I'd like to save my files but says I dont have permission to acess the folder were my files are
[10:49] <marvin1> I cant open the terminal even firefox
[10:53] <marvin1> would anyone knows how I can save the files before reinstall ubuntu?
[10:54] <JimBuntu> marvin1, you could `sudo su`
[10:54] <mancman3> usb drive, pen drive...
[10:54] <marvin1> I cant open the terminal
[10:56] <JimBuntu> marvin1, is this is the USB drive that you couldn't boot before? Sounds like it was damaged or the whole machine is damaged. I would suggest making a new live boot media, booting into it and recovering your files that way... if the old drive is damaged, you may want to make an image of it, then recover files from the image
[10:56] <BluesKaj> marvin1, alt+F2 , sudo console
[10:58] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, you are all fancy with your alt-F2, I have to use ctrl-alt-F2
[10:58] <marvin1> doesnt work with alt+f12. neither with crtl alt T
[10:59] <BluesKaj> JimBuntu,  alt+F2 opens the run command , the sudo console there
[10:59] <BluesKaj> then
[10:59] <BluesKaj> F2 not F12
[11:00] <JimBuntu> Oh, I see what you meant BluesKaj
[11:00] <BluesKaj> JimBuntu,  thought it was worth a shot
[11:01] <marvin1> worked with ctrl alt f2 but when I try to login I got tge message: nocaching mode page found. assuming drive cache: write throug. login incorrect
[11:02] <EriC^^> marvin1: hey, did you boot the live usb?
[11:03] <marvin1> yes. that is why I am in ubuntu now. before it jumped directly to windows
[11:04] <marvin1> I put the option enter in ubuntu without install
[11:04] <EriC^^> marvin1: ok, open a terminal and type 'sudo parted -ls' and pastebin the contents in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <BluesKaj> hmmm ctl+alt+F7-F12 doesn't go back to the desktop...what gives?
[11:08] <BluesKaj> damn systemd probly
[11:09] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: might be on F1
[11:10]  * JimBuntu sniffs around... smells 18.04 beta 2
[11:11] <BluesKaj> yeah JimBuntu, that's what I'm using
[11:11] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, did they move it back to F6 by default? or some other F1-5 ?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> dunno JimBuntu, guess I should explore
[11:13] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, you are correct, the desktop is now ctl+alt+F1 here
[11:13] <marvin1> when I open the terminal put me directly to ubuntu login
[11:16] <alicechained> when upgrading distro versions, is there anyway to prevent old default programs hanging about? i now have 3 calculators (all different) in my accessories menu for example.
[11:18] <guiverc_d> alicechained, do you have more than one DEsktop on your system?  (each DEsktop can come with its own calculator, that uses that DE's libs)
[11:20] <marvin1> do I try to install ubuntu creating another partition and then try to.reccover files
[11:20] <EriC^^> marvin1: huh? try pressing ctrl+alt+t
[11:20] <marvin1> ?
[11:21] <marvin1> doesnt work eric
[11:21] <Bu4nka> hey guys please help cause im going crazy! i'm trying to copy a 2gb file to my usb stick. it starts of allright but then halfway through it starts decreasing speed and eventually it stops. i got it fat32, already tried with ntfs and different files, different usb stick, same results. im on ubuntu 16.04, regular environment
[11:24] <alicechained> guiverc_d: gnome is the only desktop i belive... though is mate also a desktop?
[11:24] <alicechained> believe
[11:24] <guiverc_d> yep - the mate loaded explains why you have two calculators on your system (mate-calc being the 2nd)
[11:25] <Bu4nka> update :  now i cant even see my usb drive on disks or gparted
[11:27] <guiverc_d> possibly you installed the third; two are because of DEsktops on your system. Sorry but the only thing i can think is removing the third (maybe fastest to click 'about' on each to work out their names to see which to remove - sorry I can't give more)
[11:29] <EriC^^> marvin1: which live usb did you make? ubuntu unity?
[11:30] <EriC^^> marvin1: what did you mean by 'opening a terminal gives you an ubuntu login?'
[11:31] <marvin1> ok. I did login again and chose repair posibles errors
[11:32] <marvin1> now I can open the terminal. im in front of it
[11:33] <marvin1> I did sudo parted -ls and gave some results
[11:36] <EriC^^> marvin1: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' and copy the link it gives you here
[11:38] <Bu4nka> any thoughts?
[11:41] <marvin1> eric I got this: "nc: getaddrinfo: temporary failure in name resolution warning the driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048bytes but linux says it is 512 bytes
[11:43] <EriC^^> marvin1: can you hook an internet connection up to the pc?
[11:45] <marvin1> I can connect but doesnt open the firefox brouser.
[11:45] <marvin1> I am chating here from.mobile
[11:46] <marvin1> the internet is working only in windows
[11:49] <vlt> Exterminador: Before we discuss *how*, can you explain *why* you also want to add /dev/vda to that volume group?
[11:54] <Bu4nka> Hey, please help, cant open disks or gparted even in terminal. also can see any usb drives i plug in
[11:55] <marvin1_> any idea what can I do?
[12:01] <EriC^^> marvin1_: type 'sudo parted -ls' look at Partition table type, does it say gpt or msdos?
[12:02] <marvin1_> gpt enric
[12:06] <EriC^^> marvin1_: ok,
[12:06] <EriC^^> marvin1_: type 'sudo efibootmgr -v'
[12:07] <EriC^^> marvin1_: look at bootorder and look below which is the boot number it's referring to
[12:10] <marvin1_> eric. it gives me the result: error while loading shares libraries /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libefivar.so.0: cannot read file data; input/out put error
[12:16] <Ringer> hi, i'm unable to install virtualbox-guest-dkms 5.2.10 under 18.4 with kernel 4.16 - https://paste.ee/p/lG0oJ
[12:20] <Bu4nka> hey guys, cant mount my usb drives, cant open disks, gparted opens but hangs searching partitions. ubuntu 16.04 . please help
[12:27] <wiq> Hi. I have deleted my important folder by mistake with command `unlink folder`. How can I recover it?
[12:30] <leftyfb> wiq: you restore from backups
[12:30] <wiq> leftyfb, I don't have those :)
[12:31] <leftyfb> then the data wasn't important
[12:31] <jose__> hola
[12:31] <iodev> hello!
[12:32] <jose__> esto es en ingles, es una pena
[12:32] <Ool> jose__: ve te en #ubuntu-es si el ingles es una pena para ti
[12:34] <jose__> como lo hago
[12:36] <marvin1_> jose. cuando accedas a la pagina principal pon #ubuntu-es a cambio de #ubuntu
[12:36] <jose__> ok
[12:36] <dreadkopp83> hey guys. i got a 'new' server here -> HP DL380p G8 on which i'd like to install ubuntu server 18.04. It uses a HP 420i Radi controller, i created a Raid1 logical drive of two 500GB SSDs... however in the installer the logical drive is not detected. Anyone might help ?
[12:47] <jose__> lo intentare en otro momento. muchas gracias.
[12:49] <EriC^^> marvin1_: still there?
[12:57] <singy> https://www.truelancer.com/freelance-service/i-can-compose-you-music-background-score-suitable-for-your-video-presentation-75952
[12:57] <singy> sorry wrong message
[13:03] <dreadkopp83> anyone of you can help me get a HP 420i Raid controller detected by ubuntu 18.04 server?
[13:03] <marvin1_> yea eric
[13:04] <marvin1_> by the way thank you very much for askme
[13:04] <marvin1_> im in front of terminal
[13:11] <marvin1_> any idea about how I can solve this
[13:13] <andreycizov> Hey - I am trying to set up 1080ti with nouveau in 18.04. It's connected to 3 4K monitors (not sure if that could be an issue) and works fine under proprietary drivers. On the other hand I get a black screen with a flash of mouse cursor followed by a segfault of gnome-shell  in nouveau_dri if I use nouveau. Should I submit a bug report or are there any other things I should try?
[13:19] <alicechained> guiverc_d: thanks. i think i have 3 calcs. (calculator, gcalculator and mate calculator). so would it be correct that an update of distro build installs new desktops?
[13:22] <brainwash> andreycizov: does nouveau support that gen of nvidia gpus?
[13:24] <andreycizov> brainwash: nouveau doesn't specifically list the "supported" video cards. instead they just list all of the known models and tell the users to submit bug reports if something doesn't work
[13:25] <andreycizov> brainwash: besides, the card works in certain configurations. E.g. it can handle a single screen for sure.
[13:26] <severin_> can I still have access to Ubuntu's default GUI configuration panes if I switched to spectrwm?
[13:26] <marvin1> hi. accea
[13:26] <severin_> My wifi has stopped working -- wlan0 not longer showing in ifconfig -- and frankly Im lost.
[13:27] <marvin1> acceding from my mobile. I do
[13:27] <brainwash> andreycizov: then you will have to do that. https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/
[13:28] <marvin1> I dont know if I get any previous message. my laptop.felt down on the ground a d
[13:28] <ash_work> there's some tool to add/change dns servers on ubuntu but I don't remember what it is
[13:28] <brainwash> andreycizov: maybe ask in #nouveau first
[13:28] <marvin1> and now I cant access my Ubuntu.  only windows tgat
[13:28] <weq3652> severin_: 1. use "ip a", not ifconfig. 2. any other network interface name starting with "wl"?
[13:29] <adalbert> ash_work: you mean the resolvconf package ?
[13:29] <andreycizov> brainwash: makes sense. It's my first time submitting a bug, so thank you!
[13:29] <severin_> enps0 "link encap ether et"
[13:29] <ash_work> adalbert: not if I remember correctly
[13:29] <severin_> and "lo" which used to mean loopback
[13:29] <marvin1> that is a shit. I d like.to save my files . from my old.ubuntu. an
[13:29] <severin_> (says loopbavk too)
[13:30] <marvin1> pls.help. thank you very much
[13:30] <weq3652> severin_: so really no wifi interfaces it seems
[13:30] <severin_> it stopped working randomly. maybe the wifi card in this old laptop I was just salvaging just pooped out.
[13:30] <weq3652> severin_: do you know make and model of your wifi card?
[13:30] <severin_> how do I switch back to the basic friendly GUI?
[13:31] <severin_> old dell laptop, was slow and some usb ports didnt work with my wife.
[13:31] <severin_> i thought great, i just meed to use some websites.
[13:32] <severin_> sorry for the typos, Im on an ipad.
[13:32] <weq3652> severin_: dell laptop? could be a broadcom wifi card, but not sure
[13:32] <weq3652> severin_: does the card show up in lspci?
[13:33] <severin_> yes
[13:33] <another_ubunoob> Is there a way to check whether or not I have already signed the canonical cla?
[13:33] <severin_> Qualcomm Atheros AR9485
[13:34] <severin_> ip a also shows something
[13:34] <severin_> wlp2s0... state DOWN
[13:35] <weq3652> severin_: so there actually *is* the wifi nic, it is just set down
[13:36] <severin_> strange. it stopped working literally at a random time
[13:36] <severin_> i was using overleaf full screen, the online latex editor thing
[13:36] <severin_> Im struggling with the output of ip help
[13:36] <weq3652> severin_: maybe network manager does not recognize it. or there could be a wireless switch (kill switch) on the dell laptop somewhere
[13:36] <severin_> how do I set the status of wlp2s0 back up?
[13:37] <weq3652> severin_: there's one thing you can test to see if the card works. sudo ip link set wlp2s0 up ; sudo iwlist wlp2s0 scan
[13:37] <weq3652> okay, have to go
[13:38] <severin_> operation not possible due to rf kill
[13:38] <severin_> what.
[13:40] <severin_> ah ues
[13:40] <severin_> apparently i did this trying to follow some tutorial
[13:40] <severin_> "sudo rfkill unblock wifi"
[13:40] <severin_> damn.
[13:42] <marvin1> do you still there eric?
[13:43] <severin_> rfkill list says "wireless lan - soft blocksd no, hard blocked yes"
[13:43] <EriC^^> hey marvin1
[13:45] <EriC^^> marvin1: try 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'
[13:45] <EriC^^> then 'ls /mnt' do you see a dir called 'efi' ?
[13:46] <severin_> ok
[13:47] <severin_> hey. i cant scroll up so I dont know who was helping me
[13:47] <severin_> but apparently theres a key that disables wifi
[13:47] <severin_> somebow all fn keys are working like f1, f2... except thst one.
[13:48] <severin_> jesus christ. sorry everyone.
[13:48] <leftyfb> severin_: that's dependent on your hardware
[13:48] <adalbert> :)
[13:48] <severin_> I was in the middle of writing my thesis, brain all focused in one thing
[13:48] <severin_> thanks. i learned a little at any rate
[13:49] <marvin1> I thought you left Eric. now I was trying to install.new Ubuntu but ai
[13:49] <severin_> sorry
[13:49] <marvin1> I dont know if I can save my files. I am desperate
[13:51] <Gargravarr> marvin1: from what i read, you dropped your laptop, now Ubuntu won't boot?
[13:52] <sky887> Gargravarr same as me lol
[13:52] <Gargravarr> spinning disk or SSD? if the former, was the laptop on at the time?
[13:54] <sky887> Well it's an old laptop and I crashed my instalation of ubuntu
[13:54] <Gargravarr> ah, not good :)
[13:55] <EriC^^> marvin1: don't reinstall, dont worry
[13:55] <sky887> Hehe
[13:55] <sigma_severin> hi everyone.
[13:55] <sigma_severin> it's me, now from a proper keyboard.
[13:55] <EriC^^> marvin1: try 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'
[13:55] <EriC^^> marvin1: then 'ls /mnt' do you see a dir called 'efi' ?
[13:56] <sigma_severin> this is apparently a thing with circa 2012 dell laptops: a "hard" wi-fi kill switch (rather than an instruction to the OS to turn it off)
[13:56] <Gargravarr> sky887: if it's an old laptop with a spinning disk, good chance you wound up with a head crash when you dropped it, unless your machine had a drop sensor to park the drive
[13:56] <matlock> is anyone here really good at debugging snaps?
[13:58] <sky887> Gargravarr ok. Well happens all the time lol
[13:58] <marvin1> yes gargvarr
[13:58] <Gargravarr> phased out spinning disks in all my laptops after my ThinkPad failed to go into sleep mode before i tossed it in the car for a long-ish journey :)
[13:58] <leftyfb> matlock: try #snappy
[13:59] <sky887> :-)
[13:59] <leftyfb> matlock: also, the answer to that question does not help you
[14:00] <Gargravarr> marvin1: try EriC^^'s instructions, but there is a possibility your disk is physically damaged
[14:03] <Gargravarr> so i have what i hope is a quick question - i have a batch of company laptops. we've just had some nice company-logo backgrounds made and i'd like to set them to be the default on first login for all users (they can change it afterwards)
[14:03] <Gargravarr> on Xenial and Bionic
[14:03] <Gargravarr> seeing some conflicting instructions around the web
[14:07] <marvin1> eric. I got the message: input/output error
[14:08] <marvin1> Thank gargravarr
[14:09] <Gargravarr> I/O error doesn't bode well :\
[14:10] <ash_work> why is `ifdown enp4s0` giving me: Unknown interface enp4s0
[14:10] <vavkamil> hi
[14:11] <vavkamil> looking for a webcam software that can zoom image
[14:11] <vavkamil> seems like default ubuntu's cheese is too simple
[14:11] <phil42> ash_work, probably because the device is usb and it is unplugged,  something like that
[14:12] <adalbert> ash_work: if enp4s0 listed in ifconfig ?
[14:12] <ash_work> phil42: nope, otherwise I wouldn't be here :P
[14:12] <ash_work> adalbert: yes
[14:12] <ash_work> that's where I got the name of the interface
[14:12] <Gargravarr> ash_work: does 'ifconfig enp4s0 down' work?
[14:13] <ash_work> Gargravarr: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted
[14:13] <Gargravarr> (as root/sudo)
[14:14] <EriC^^> marvin1: input/output error what exactly? the error you posted earlier suggests the live usb is corrupted cause it cant read the libefivars.so library
[14:14] <ash_work> Gargravarr: yeah, that worked
[14:14] <ash_work> why didn't ifdown?
[14:14] <Gargravarr> ifdown is a wrapper script iirc
[14:15] <Gargravarr> not sure 100% what it does, but i've had strange failures in the past so i stick to ifconfig <if> down/up now
[14:15] <Gargravarr> also noteworthy, ifconfig is deprecated and 'ip link' replaces it
[14:16] <ash_work> I see. Well, it's referenced directly in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:16] <marvin1> in this case do you recommend I do again the liveusb in windows?
[14:16] <ash_work> really?
[14:16] <ash_work> wow
[14:16] <Gargravarr> ash_work: it's been completely removed in Bionic
[14:17] <Gargravarr> if not earlier
[14:17] <ash_work> in that case, shouldn't ifconfig IF <up|down> also be deprecated?
[14:17] <marvin1> I got the input/output message after type : sudo mount/dev/sda1/mnt
[14:17]  * ash_work has never heard of Bionic
[14:18] <Gargravarr> ash_work: Bionic == next LTS release (18.04)
[14:18] <ash_work> oh that's right
[14:18] <ash_work> I mean, "oh yeah, the naming has wrapped around the alphabet already"
[14:19] <ash_work> Gargravarr: so... can't you not use ifconfig IF <up|down> in bionic?
[14:19] <Gargravarr> ash_work: correct, you have to use the 'ip link' equivalent
[14:20] <Gargravarr> 'ip' is present in Xenial and earlier, has been slowly taking over from 'ifconfig'
[14:20] <ash_work> thanks Gargravarr
[14:20] <leftyfb> uh
[14:21] <EriC^^> marvin1: i recommend that if you can find another usb and make another live usb
[14:21] <EriC^^> maybe this one is damaged
[14:21] <leftyfb> Gargravarr: you can confirm that ifconfig does not in fact work in bionic? It does work in 16.04 till 17.10 last I checked.
[14:21] <ash_work> I guess I should've installed Bionic
[14:21] <ash_work> whatever
[14:21] <Gargravarr> leftyfb: your 'uh' made me check on the Bionic laptop beside me
[14:22] <Gargravarr> it was upgraded from Xenial, so it may not be an accurate illustration of a fresh install
[14:22] <Gargravarr> but yes, 'ifconfig' is still there and appears to work
[14:22] <Gargravarr> pretty sure when i first started testing Bionic, ifconfig wasn't there at all
[14:23] <leftyfb> I'm not suggesting using ifconfig over anything, just saying I don't think it's completely neutered
[14:23] <ash_work> Gargravarr: what email client do you use on linux?
[14:23] <sigma_severin> stupid question now: the default ubuntu GUI comes with a windowed file manager. how do I invoke that from a terminal?
[14:23] <leftyfb> sigma_severin: nautilus
[14:23] <Gargravarr> ash_work: Thunderbird
[14:24] <Gargravarr> leftyfb: good point, i never said it had been 'neutered' (or that if present, it wasn't likely to work) but that it was falling out of use
[14:24] <Gargravarr> it does still seem to work
[14:25] <sigma_severin> wunderbar, thanks
[14:25] <leftyfb> Gargravarr: then this is false
 Gargravarr: so... can't you not use ifconfig IF <up|down> in bionic?
 ash_work: correct, you have to use the 'ip link' equivalent
[14:25] <dreadkopp83> hey guys. i managed to get 18.04 to run on that HP DL380 by installing 14.04 and dist-upgrading. latest kernel is not supporting the raid controller, 4.04 works fine though.
[14:25] <vavkamil> I just broke my dependecies https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mcJT2ykVz2/
[14:25] <leftyfb> !bionic | dreadkopp83
[14:26] <Gargravarr> leftyfb: i think i am partially right, i just fired up a Bionic ISO in a VM and 'ifconfig' is not present by default
[14:26] <ioria> !info net-tools bionic
[14:27] <adalbert> ifconfig still in 18.04 - > confirmed in xubuntu 18.04 beta2
[14:27] <Gargravarr> okay, i admit i got it wrong then
[14:27] <lapaga> which ifconfig   /sbin/ifconfig
[14:31] <marvin1> eric. I found another usb. I will the whole process again..will you be online or is there a better way to we get contact!
[14:32] <marvin1> ?
[14:32] <Gargravarr> marvin1: others in here may be able to help you if EriC^^ is offline
[14:33] <EriC^^> marvin1: yeah i'll be here, and as Gargravarr said
[14:33] <Exterminador> vlt: i was away. actually what i need is to expand /dev/vda (it's only 50GB) and create just *one* volume with 200GB of space
[14:34] <adalbert> dpkg -L net-tools | grep /sbin -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YVmSfWzCpz/ (xubuntu 18.04 b2)
[14:34] <ioria> Gargravarr, btw you are correct, you need to manually install it on 17.10/18.04
[14:34] <Gargravarr> ioria: phew, i wasn't going crazy :)
[14:35] <Gargravarr> my message was 'don't rely on it being present on a current distro'
[14:35] <ioria> hehehe  http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.manifest
[14:36] <pi_> hi
[14:37] <Gargravarr> hi de pi_
[14:46] <marvin1> any answer?
[14:48] <Gargravarr> marvin1: he did answer
[14:50] <EriC^^_> marvin1: do you have another usb?
[14:51] <marvin1> I.mean since I have only access from mobile sometimes I lose the connection. I will the same process with another usb but the windoes that I still having problems with the
[14:51] <marvin1> I just asked if he will stay online
[14:53] <pi__> hi i was plannig to buy a ryzen 3 2200g but after seing  no oficiali amd drivers for it yet and open source drivers  for 4.17  kernel. i wanted to use for small  . stuff with blender a  unity. i wonder how well amd suport linux dfivers and sould i think  on another processor?
[14:53] <m0rd3cai> anyone around familiar with nextcloud and snap packages? could really use some help finding out which folder (3 total) the configuration is used from. this is going on 3-4 days
[14:53] <m0rd3cai> n 3
[14:54] <leftyfb> m0rd3cai: https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=nextcloud
[14:54] <leftyfb> m0rd3cai: linked to from the nextcloud website
[14:55] <leftyfb> m0rd3cai: as in, join #nextcloud
[14:56] <m0rd3cai> thanks lefty
[15:02] <ash_work> it doesn't seem to matter what DNS Server I use, google, level3, verisign; I get apt-get update fetch errors
[15:03] <ash_work> generally speaking for dl.google.com and download.docker.com
[15:04] <lupulo> ash_work ping to server, translate the IP?
[15:04] <ash_work> any other ideas?
[15:04] <ash_work> lupulo: okay; I can ping dl.google.com, yes...
[15:04] <lupulo> 1. idea is  error at sources.list
[15:05] <axis> hi
[15:05] <lupulo> ash_work the repositories could be dissapeared... if the host of ubuntu is up.
[15:06] <lupulo> axis, you could use lftp to see.
[15:06] <ash_work> for dl.google.com?
[15:06] <axis> how to install xampp
[15:06] <lupulo> ash_work, man sources.list
[15:06] <ash_work> axis: why do you want zAMPP? :(
[15:07] <ash_work> XAMPP*
[15:07] <ash_work> lupulo: what am I supposed to glean from that?
[15:07] <MJCD> does anyone know a nice bottom taskbar that's also lightweight? http://prntscr.com/j91liv
[15:07] <MJCD> that's what I have now
[15:07] <MJCD> don't like it ;x
[15:08] <ioria> lxpanel
[15:08] <ioria> MJCD, try tint2
[15:09] <MJCD> trying
[15:09] <MJCD> pls hold :P
[15:09] <jogaman> Hello. I have a storage partition which I deleted everything from but the used space didn't reduce. I can't find the data in any trash location. How do I find and/or delete the data?
[15:09] <ioria> MJCD, if you clone it from gitlab, you'll get the new version with enhancements
[15:11] <MJCD> ill do that if you gimme the command haha
[15:11] <MJCD> I dont use gitlab
[15:12] <jogaman> nevermind, ls -a solved the issue. Heh.
[15:12] <ioria> MJCD,  the main config is in ~/.config/tint2/tint2rc ; the default one is not very interesting, but there are tons of examples on the web; git use cmake and stuff , idk if you're familiar with that:  https://gitlab.com/o9000/tint2/tree/0.14.4
[15:13] <Gargravarr> ash_work: i got those this morning, i think they both pushed out bad updates
[15:14] <ash_work> Gargravarr: really? I mean, this has been a pretty persistent issue whenever using my work connection
[15:14] <ash_work> :\
[15:15] <ash_work> I mean... if I add dns ips to the "additional dns" field of the network settings... it might not be trying those first, might it?
[15:16] <MJCD> ioria, can you name any others just so I can do comparison
[15:16] <ash_work> I guess I'll just grab all my settings out of ifconfig and drop them in /etc/network/interfaces with a dns-server line
[15:16] <ash_work> Gargravarr: does that sound any different?
[15:17] <Gargravarr> okay, mine is stable now
[15:17] <Gargravarr> i noticed on the bus this morning when VPN'd into the company LAN
[15:17] <MJCD> ioria, also with tint2 it doesn't replace the default lxlauncher or whatever it is
[15:17] <MJCD> which it just should imo
[15:17] <ioria> MJCD,  so you're running lubuntu /lxde ?
[15:17] <MJCD> if you're installing it that is
[15:18] <MJCD> I was trying that as one option yeah
[15:18] <ioria> MJCD,  thought it was openbox ....
[15:19] <MJCD> wellllll
[15:19] <MJCD> it began life as xubuntu-minimal
[15:19] <MJCD> lol
[15:19] <MJCD> im just messing around at this point
[15:19] <MJCD> making my picks from the pond
[15:21] <ioria> MJCD,  nice mix
[15:22] <ioria> MJCD,  btw, your list : https://beebom.com/ubuntu-application-launchers/
[15:24] <MJCD> perfect ill give them all a go - I take it tint2 is yours?
[15:24] <MJCD> docky feels like its mocking macos
[15:24] <MJCD> which I hate
[15:24] <MJCD> gnome pie haha that's interesting
[15:24] <ioria> MJCD,  but, better to remove lxpanel
[15:24] <MJCD> will have to give that one a go
[15:25] <MJCD> ioria, nah I think when you install your package it is stating the intent that is the wm thing they want to use
[15:25] <MJCD> so I think it should perhaps have some conditional removals
[15:25] <ioria> ok
[15:25] <MJCD> as part of the packages install script
[15:26] <MJCD> just my 2 cents :)
[15:30] <pawiecki> Hi, my Ubuntu 16.04.4 box rotated logs in /var/log/ but new files are empty and stay empty. What can be wrong?
[15:31] <avi_IRC> Hello, my ubuntu 16.04 logs only in guest session. Is there a way out?
[15:32] <pawiecki> avi_IRC: what happened?
[15:33] <avi_IRC> It logs only in guest session. I Cannot access root via terminal. I can access root via ctrl alt f1 but I don't know what to do next.
[15:34] <ioria> pawiecki, permission issue, maybe    stat /var/log
[15:36] <sevendogsbsd> avi_IRC: what error message do you get?
[15:36] <avi_IRC> None at all
[15:37] <sevendogsbsd> avi_IRC: so entering user's passsword and hitting enter just flashes the screen?
[15:38] <sevendogsbsd> avi_IRC: when did this behavior start?
[15:38] <avi_IRC> I only get option to log in as a guest. Nothing else.
[15:38] <sevendogsbsd> avi_IRC: ah, so your user vanished? Assume you had a user before?
[15:39] <avi_IRC> Well I cannot access terminal via ctrl alt f1. It takes me to a screen where I just ubuntu logo waiting and waiting
[15:40] <ioria> avi_IRC,  boot in recovery, remount rw,  and ass a new user
[15:40] <ioria> *add
[15:40] <avi_IRC> Well I had a rooy user.
[15:42] <sevendogsbsd> avi_IRC: so no normal user, only root?
[15:43] <ash_work> still getting errors from packagecloud.io and download.docker.com
[15:46] <nohop> Alright guys. Little bug in package dependencies.
[15:47] <nohop> Trying to install gcc-multilib, g++-multilib breaks dependencies
[15:47] <nohop>  gcc-5-multilib : Depends: libc6-dev-i386 (>= 2.11) but it is not going to be installed
[15:47] <nohop>  libc6-dev-x32 : Depends: libc6-dev-i386 (= 2.23-0ubuntu10) but it is not going to be installed
[15:50] <nohop> Oh, 16.04, by the way
[15:51] <SlidingHorn> nohop: have you attempted to install those packages?
[15:55] <SlidingHorn> nohop: s/those packages/that package
[15:57] <nohop> I'll try after this apt-get upgrade is done :)
[15:57] <nohop> (I know, should've done that before whining)
[16:00] <nohop> Ok, here:
[16:00] <nohop> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev-i386_2.23-0ubuntu10_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[16:00] <nohop>  trying to overwrite '/usr/include/fpu_control.h', which is also in package libc6-dev-amd64:i386 2.23-0ubuntu10
[16:00] <nohop> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:00] <nohop>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev-i386_2.23-0ubuntu10_amd64.deb
[16:00] <nohop> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[16:01] <nohop> Oh, I'm sorry, anti-flood bot :) Won't happen again.
[16:06] <ioria> nohop, sudo apt-get purge -f lib6-dev-amd64:i386   (not 100% sure )
[16:07] <nohop> ioria: Yeah. The thing is that I WANT to cross compile for x86 on my x64 system though.
[16:08] <nohop> I just found: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1365375   I think it's the same/similar thing. So I guess it's a known bug.
[16:09] <nohop> So I guess I'll just have to be patient (which I'm not) and actually compile my shit on my embedded atom system instead :)
[16:09] <ioria> nohop, are you 64 bit right ? so ibc6-dev and lib6-dev-i386 should do it
[16:10] <ioria> nohop, if you are 32bit, then you need libc6-dev-amd64
[16:10] <ash_work> keeping inline with FHS where would you extract a displaylink .run file to?
[16:11] <nohop> ioria: Yeah, and installing that package fails
[16:11] <nohop> ioria: trying to overwrite '/usr/include/fpu_control.h', which is also in package libc6-dev-amd64:i386 2.23-0ubuntu10
[16:11] <ioria> nohop, sudo apt-get purge -f lib6-dev-amd64:i386
[16:11] <nohop> Which is, I think, the same as the link of the known bug I jsut pasted
[16:12] <nohop> hmm.. hang on
[16:13] <pikapika> Hi
[16:15] <nohop> Holy balls. I think that did it. Thanks, Io
[16:15] <nohop> ioria
[16:15] <pikapika> I wont be having good internet for quite some time, so I was thinking...why not create a local mirror of entire official packages using apt-mirror. For both 16.04 lts (currently installed) and 18.04 lts (will do through vm, for later installation on actual system). Now these will naturally be huge downloads so...is it possible to pause and resume downloads (including reboot of system)? As in say I press ctrl+c then after reboot issue the apt-mirror
[16:15] <pikapika> command again in same folder, will it pick up from previous state?
[16:15] <ioria> nohop, ok, well done
[16:16] <MJCD> whats the command for openbox's launcher
[16:16] <SlidingHorn> pikapika: how long of a period of time are we talking here?
[16:16] <MJCD> I rebooted
[16:16] <MJCD> still nein
[16:17] <pikapika> Like on the order or 3-4 months to even a full year. I will have internet of course. But less bandwidth. So I'd prefer to have a good "base" set over which I can do small size updates
[16:17] <pikapika> Right now I have unlimited bandwidth, but not for too long
[16:18] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: how are you logging in?  via command line and then "startx"?
[16:18] <MJCD> xlogin starts automatically
[16:18] <MJCD> on boot
[16:18] <MJCD> I presume its xlogin, its very basic looking
[16:18] <MJCD> it offers no session settings
[16:19] <SlidingHorn> and when you log in, what WM or DE currently loads? MJCD
[16:19] <MJCD> as of this moment openbox
[16:19] <MJCD> but no launcher or anything
[16:19] <MJCD> I can only right click
[16:19] <MJCD> to get apps menu
[16:20] <MJCD> http://prntscr.com/j92ph0
[16:20] <cami> hello, someone knows how fix the error "the sistem is running in low graphic mode"
[16:20] <cami> ??
[16:20] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: and what are you trying to launch, specifically?  (just trying to narrow down here...)
[16:21] <jak2020> hi all
[16:21] <jak2020> how to add a 2nd ip? to my linux box?
[16:21] <SlidingHorn> cami: which flavor & version of ubuntu?
[16:21] <MJCD> SlidingHorn, well im just trying out a bunch of wm's
[16:21] <MJCD> there's no session config on login
[16:21] <cami> is ubuntu 16.4
[16:21] <MJCD> and appears as per the screenshot
[16:21] <MJCD> im happy enough with the bare bones of that
[16:22] <MJCD> but I really need like a taskbar
[16:22] <MJCD> style thing
[16:22] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: oh, here...this isn't an Ubuntu info source, but it's good information that will probably help you: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/openbox
[16:23] <pikapika> Oh wait
[16:23] <MJCD> see
[16:23] <MJCD> when I open ObConf
[16:23] <pikapika> I read the Ubuntu wiki article
[16:23] <MJCD> I can see the dock option
[16:23] <adalbert> jak2020: add a second network card? or use make a clone using ip link?
[16:23] <MJCD> but it doesnt do anything seemingly
[16:23] <pikapika> It appears these files are available as tarballs
[16:23] <pikapika> I can probalby effect such downloads in the required manner no problem
[16:24] <pikapika> SlidingHorn: Are the packages.gz files ever changed...as in is there a risk of them changing while being downloaded?
[16:25] <Cryterion> files won't normally change while you downloading, just a new version might get uploaded, under a new name, ie version number change
[16:25] <SlidingHorn> pikapika: not likely while being downloaded, but by the time, you eventually use them (considering a several month time span) then, it's likely the software will be out of date by the time you use it
[16:25] <nacc> pikapika: if there is, that why you use the md5sum or other hash to verify the contents
[16:26] <nacc> Cryterion: packages.gz is a fixed name (not versioned)
[16:26] <Cryterion> ah
[16:26] <nacc> Packages.gz, anyways (compressed Packages file)
[16:26] <pikapika> SlidingHorn: no I mean after mirroring is finished, I will perform initial installation of any packages via the local version, but then immediately update from the online version
[16:26] <pikapika> So the bulk of my downloading during this period will be for the updates not for the "base"
[16:27] <pikapika> Would that ensure sufficiently recent packages?
[16:34] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: If I remember correctly, you'll have to restart openbox after a configuration change (should be available in the right-click menu) for it to take effect
[16:35] <MJCD> SlidingHorn, yeah I tried right click->reset
[16:35] <MJCD> still no dock
[16:35] <MJCD> yarrr
[16:41] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: which panel application are you trying to use?
[16:42] <MJCD> idk thats the problem lol
[16:42] <MJCD> its just ObConf->Dock settings
[16:42] <MJCD> but they dont do anything
[16:42] <MJCD> even after hard reset
[16:42] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: oh - If I remember correctly (apparently my constant disclaimer) there isn't one by default - you have to install one (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here)
[16:43] <MJCD> well there's options in ObConf
[16:43] <MJCD> for a dock
[16:43] <MJCD> I think it may have been plank
[16:43] <MJCD> and I may have removed that
[16:44] <MJCD> once again printscreen of the login
[16:44] <MJCD> http://prntscr.com/j931vs
[16:44] <MJCD> you can see there's no session setup at all
[16:44] <MJCD> and its obviously uglified lol
[16:44] <MJCD> which is ok
[16:44] <MJCD> this is an extremely minimal build
[16:45] <MJCD> but I need that so I can try different builds
[16:45] <MJCD> or session configs
[16:45] <MJCD> including the wm to use
[16:46] <ducasse> !enter | MJCD
[16:46] <MJCD> !enter @ ducasse
[16:46] <MJCD> !enter | ducasse
[16:46] <nacc> MJCD: please stop that.
[16:47] <SlidingHorn> MJCD: Yeah, I'm reading further, and you need to install an independent panel/dock application (also, try not to give attitude - ducasse is right...hitting enter too many times makes the channel hard to follow)  :)
[17:04] <shazbotmcnasty> hey is there a way to see what folders are shared on a linux machine?
[17:04] <bikramjit> @Jaker
[17:04] <bikramjit> i did not get you
[17:05] <nacc> shazbotmcnasty: what do you mean by shared?
[17:05] <jgriff1> Does Ubuntu require a reboot before apt after a dist-upgrade before it will show all those packages as patched?  I'm using packer/chef to create an ami.  Chef handles the dist-upgrade and uploads a before/after of 'apt-list --upgradeable' to s3.  The before/after show the same but it I launch an instance on the ami and run the command it shows nothing as upgradeable.  The only difference is the reboot.
[17:05] <Jaker> Im sorry?
[17:06] <bikramjit> jgriff1: hey
[17:06] <nacc> jgriff1: you have two befores in the first sentence, can you rephrase? and no, apt is not sensitive to reboots
[17:07] <jgriff1> nacc:Sorry about that.  Essetially 'apt-list --upgradeable' is showing the same output both before and after an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.
[17:08] <jgriff1> after a reboot it shows no packages as needing to be upgraded.
[17:09] <ash_work> I seem to be in some kind of loop where my dock doesn't work when I plug it in; then I unplug and replug it back in and it works temporarily before my computer freezes and I can't do anything on it at all
[17:09] <ash_work> even switch to a different tty
[17:09]  * ash_work tries it a third time
[17:10] <ash_work> okay, we have lift off
[17:10] <ash_work> currently working for no reason
[17:10] <ash_work> and yet my cursor hasn't gone to a spinning wheel indefinitely frozen in place
[17:11] <ash_work> lets see what happens when I open, TWO chrome windows (all gasp)
[17:11] <ash_work> it still opened... that does shock me
[17:12] <ash_work> although my cursor appears to blink randomly while hovering over the chrome
[17:15] <vlt> Exterminador: Hmm, that’s unfortunately not how this works.
[17:15] <vlt> Exterminador: The device /dev/vda has a fixed size.
[17:15] <vlt> Exterminador: Also vdb.
[17:16] <vlt> Exterminador: What is your end goal here? Is this an "xy" problem?
[17:17] <Exterminador> yes, both have fixed size. vda is 50GB and vdb is 150GB. what I'm trying to to is making /dev/vdb an extension of / on /dev/vda. so, I'd have total size of / of 200GB
[17:20] <nacc> jgriff1: what is apt-list?
[17:21] <Exterminador> vlt: basically this is how it looks like now: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sDVscDtr4m/
[17:22] <ioria> nacc, without the hyphen, i guess
[17:22] <Exterminador> basically what i want is: /dev/vda         46G   13G   31G  30% / + /dev/vdb        138G   60M  131G   1% /mnt/data, to be one
[17:22] <ppf> does anyone recommend an offline qr code generator that can embed an image in the center?
[17:24] <Egyptian> hi - /var/lib/apt/lists/lock is it always present? i know i can delete it and it will be recreated.
[17:25] <jgriff1> nacc: 'apt list', my typing is terrible today.
[17:25] <nacc> jgriff1: it's ok, i just wanted to make sure
[17:25] <nacc> jgriff1: i am surprised that is the case, if you do the dist-upgrade, then do another update at the end, does it work?
[17:26] <nacc> jgriff1: note that apt should not be used in scripts, as it doesn't have stable output (i believe it emits this warning all the time)
[17:29] <oli_b> Hi  all
[17:30] <oli_b> Question on the stable 18.04 release
[17:31] <ZetFury> 25th
[17:31] <oli_b> we know the release date 26 apr
[17:31] <oli_b> but
[17:31] <nacc> oli_b: #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 support/questions, fyi
[17:31] <oli_b> are all other flavors also released on the same day (xubuntu, lubuntu, etc) or with some delay?
[17:31] <ZetFury> oli_b, same day
[17:31] <teward> oli_b: they are all released on the same day typically.
[17:32] <oli_b> okay, thanks to all of You!
[17:32] <oli_b> btw, will see what will be the server load on the first day to be able to download the installer image....
[17:32] <seguhi87> Anyone help regarding setting monitor resolution to 1920x1080 using gtx560ti card on Ububtu 16.04
[17:34] <SlidingHorn> !details | seguhi87 Feel free to just ask. If anyone knows the answer, they'll reply
[17:35] <jgriff1> nacc: adding an additional 'apt-get update' after the 'dist-upgrade' made no difference.  'apt list --upgradeable' show all the packages that were patched immediately before with 'dist-upgrade'.  Very odd.
[17:35] <nacc> jgriff1: i really don't know, sorry
[17:36] <nacc> jgriff1: possibly it's caching some value/flie
[17:36] <nacc> *file
[17:36] <shazbotmcnasty> uh hmm. If a workgroup is specified in smb.conf - when authenticating on another computer - how do you enter the workgroup name?
[17:36] <ioria> jgriff1,   same with    apt full-upgrade  ?
[17:37] <shazbotmcnasty> If it's a popup asking for credentials, do you do it just like on windows ie: workgroup\username   ?
[17:40] <andas> hey
[17:40] <andas> So I'm lloking for solution for my ubuntu 18.04 installed problem. My samsung TV (thats my monitor) say not supportedresolution after booting
[17:40] <korosanbo> Hello, is it safe to uninstall Gnome after installing Cinnammon and using it as my default desktop or are Gnome and Cinnammon too interwined with eachother?
[17:40] <andas> Now somehow it booted with graphics, but it is about 8 bit color depth. I have and AMD card
[17:40] <andas> tried to google on it, but ubuntuforums is down and it say I should ask here IRC
[17:44] <boboma> andas, did you try a live version first. Does it have the same problems?
[17:44] <ducasse> andas: 18.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 until release
[17:45] <andas> live works fine boboma , because I used that to install it
[17:46] <andas> now I m on installed 18.04. somehow it started, but it is very glitchy. shadows and colors are non-correct (green and, red-blue dots)
[17:47] <leftyfb> !bionic | andas
[17:56] <boboma> andas, maybe you can try installing different graphics drivers for your computer
[18:00] <andas> boboma, I read that I should use MESA or the AMD
[18:00] <andas> I should check what is currently in use... how?
[18:01] <oerheks> driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[18:01] <oerheks> but you should head over to #ubuntu+1, for bionic 18.04 support
[18:01] <boboma> If you start software & updates there's a tab called additional drivers.
[18:01] <boboma> check there if you have other drivers for your graphics card to install
[18:02] <andas> I'm in ubuntu+1, but no respond
[18:03] <andas> hmm lspci give for "in use" and "vga" an empty line
[18:04] <andas> Kernel modules: radeon
[18:09] <andas> in the software and updates - additional driver.  say No drivers available
[18:32] <mekhami1> no matter what i do, trying to install nodejs always ends up with v4.2.6
[18:32] <mekhami1> even when i am following the instructions to install nodejs>9
[18:32] <mekhami1> https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#debian-and-ubuntu-based-linux-distributions
[18:33] <SlidingHorn> !info nodejs
[18:33] <SlidingHorn> mekhami1: what flavor & version of Ubuntu are you using?
[18:34] <mekhami1> 16.04
[18:35] <SlidingHorn> mekhami1: as far as I can tell, even the 18.04 only has 8.10.0 - What specific feature are you requiring that's not available in the version in the Xenial repos (4.2.6)?
[18:35] <mekhami1> uh, everything
[18:35] <mekhami1> 4.2.6 is useless
[18:36] <mekhami1> i honestly only need >6 but i was updating to latest cause it's faster
[18:36] <mekhami1> but <6 is useless for anyone doing anything in node
[18:37] <ChunkzZ> !isitoutyet
[18:38] <SlidingHorn> mekhami1: well, there are 3 options - upgrade to artful (17.10), upgrade to the Bionic beta (18.04 - official release in a couple days), or build from source, however, the 3rd option wouldn't be officially supported
[18:38] <mekhami1> it's fucking absurd that ubuntu is so far behind.
[18:38] <SlidingHorn> !language | mekhami1
[18:38] <mekhami1> the people that maintain this stuff are utterly useless
[18:38] <mekhami1> 4.2.6 doesn't even run npm
[18:39] <SlidingHorn> mekhami1: Well, as I said, there are 2 options which allow you to have versions that you said would be acceptable for you
[18:40] <mekhami1> upgrading my os to a beta is moronic, upgrading to a non LTS is not acceptable either
[18:40] <SlidingHorn> mekhami1: drop the attitude, please.
[18:40] <crazydiamond> Hello. Is it possible to ignore certain network nodes (such as ones shown in the middle of `mtr`'s output) when doing network requests?
[18:41] <mekhami1> SlidingHorn ▸ feel free to fuck right off thanks
[18:41] <SlidingHorn> !ops | mekhamil
[18:41] <nacc> SlidingHorn: they already left, afaict
[18:41] <SlidingHorn> ah, my bad - I have joins/parts ignored
[18:42] <nacc> SlidingHorn: i do as well, just checking with <tab> :)
[18:51] <sky887> Are there any great IDEs for Linux?
[18:51] <mekhami1> https://gist.github.com/mekhami/f146850fcebc2e9b35da3ecede1197d9
[18:51] <mekhami1> can anyone explaint o me how this makes any sense at all
[18:53] <pragmaticenigma> mekhami1: have you run sudo apt update since running the "curl -sL ..." command?
[18:53] <mekhami1> no, the curl command ran it itself
[18:54] <mekhami1> even if i do, it doesn't seem to make a difference
[18:54] <mekhami1> for some reason the ubuntu ppa is getting priority 1001
[18:54] <mekhami1> which makes this nightmare even dumber
[18:55] <adalbert> sky887: for php there is ZendStudio, or bluefish.
[18:55] <sky887> adalbert ok
[18:55] <nacc> mekhami1: ... 'ubuntu ppa'? it's not a ppa, that's the xenial-updates pocket
[18:55] <mekhami1> i think i fixed it
[18:56] <nacc> mekhami1: your nodesource repository is set to a lower priority
[18:56] <mekhami1> there was an allow-downgrade rule in my /etc/apt/preferences.d
[18:56] <mekhami1> which was pinning the ubuntu ppa (which you damn well know what i meant so bugger off with the corrections) to 1001
[18:57] <pragmaticenigma> mekhami1: I was thinking you might have something setup like that. I just ran the instructions as indicated on the nodejs site and it selected 8.x for me
[18:57] <adalbert> sky887: there is also a package called glade, https://glade.gnome.org/ , for User Interface Dev.
[18:57] <nacc> mekhami1: yes, but you are talking the official support channel, so it's important to be correct. Please drop the attitude.
[18:57] <nacc> *talking in
[18:57] <mekhami1> nacc ▸ it's not important to be correct at the expense of helpful, so drop the high horse crap.
[19:00] <ash_guest> so I realized that I don't really know wtf I'm doing and I feel like I'm just going to end up install/removing packages I don't want to install/remove, so I guess I should try probing this channel a bit for information
[19:00] <ash_guest> it /seems/ like my toshiba dynadock always has issues
[19:00] <adalbert> sky887: monodevelop for cross-platform coding, https://www.monodevelop.com/
[19:00] <ash_guest> I can try one thing or the other and fudge it working, but I guess I just need some general direction
[19:01] <ash_guest> firstly, I saw a post that said "I installed displaylink from the software center" ... no such package exists afaict
[19:01] <ash_guest> is there a ubuntu-repo containing such a package?
[19:02] <ash_guest> there was a neat package manager gui I had that was more verbose than the software center
[19:02] <ash_guest> looks like it's time for me to restart
[19:02] <ash_guest> brb
[19:02] <ducasse> ash_guest: synaptic?
[19:10] <nacc> displaylink is in an external repo, iirc
[19:11] <pragmaticenigma> nacc: I don't think ash_guest has returned yet
[19:26] <ash_work> so yeah, I mean, you need to install the display link driver and it doesn't exist in any official ubuntu repository, right?
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> correct ash_work
[19:28] <ash_work> pragmaticenigma: so is this trustworthy? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DisplayLink
[19:28] <nacc> ash_work: that's what i know. my last usage of it wasn't great, either (lots of cpu usage)
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> I didnt know DisplayLink required a whole set of drivers... I thought it was backwards compatible with DVI
[19:32] <Gegsite> so I was about 2 hours ago as "andras" from my friend, who has the samsung 4K TV vs Ubuntu 18.04 problem. And I'm just curious that Why the hell is that a problem.
[19:32] <nacc> pragmaticenigma: to do the daisylink etc, it needs help
[19:32] <ash_work> pragmaticenigma: did you gather that from me or was that something you just looked up?
[19:33] <ash_work> brb
[19:33] <oerheks> Gegsite, join #ubuntu+1 for bionic 18.04 support
[19:33] <Gegsite> He bought a pretty expensive TV (4K res) and the newest ubuntu cant run on it. Probably with the AMD graphic card, but still.
[19:33] <oerheks> (until release)
[19:33] <Gegsite> I have at home a 17.10 :D
[19:34] <qswz> someon's using chromium? it makes me mad because it always append &client=ubuntu to my searches, even though my default serach engine is {google:baseURL}search?q=%s
[19:34] <oerheks> so you come up with an 18.04 issue..
[19:34] <qswz> this doesn't happen with chrome
[19:35] <pragmaticenigma> Gegsite: Drivers for Linux are rarely provided by manufactures. It takes time to reverse engineer support for some displays, escpecially if they choose not to adhere to industry standards. It can take time to iron out all the bugs.
[19:36] <sevendogsbsd> qswz: not getting that in chromium on ubuntu, that's odd
[19:36] <Gegsite> strangly the usb - live - installer worked flawlessly (with nomodeset and acpi off)
[19:36] <qswz> oh
[19:37] <oerheks> he is using AMD's open radeon driver, AFAIK
[19:37] <qswz> thanks for checking
[19:37] <sevendogsbsd> qswz: not sure why you are - I'll keep watching that. You are just talking about ther querystring, right?
[19:37] <qswz> sevendogsbsd: in chrome://settings/searchEngines what's your default?
[19:37] <Gegsite> oerheks, what the installed couldnt ?
[19:37] <qswz> sevendogsbsd: yes
[19:38] <qswz> the "client" one
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> Gegsite: the nomodeset does not get copied into the installed copy of UBuntu from the live session. You would have to do the steps again for the installed machine
[19:38] <oerheks> Gegsite, again: join #ubuntu+1 for bionic 18.04 support
[19:38] <oerheks> !bionic
[19:39] <sevendogsbsd> qswz: just shows google, but I cannot copy the entire query URL to be sure
[19:39] <qswz> click edit
[19:39] <qswz> on the right dropdown menu
[19:39] <qswz> and please paste the url
[19:40] <qswz> hmm I guess it's empty
[19:40] <sevendogsbsd> qswz: mine is grayed out
[19:40] <sevendogsbsd> odd
[19:40] <qswz> https://www.google.fr/search?q=foo+bar&oq=foo+bar&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i60l3j0.3016j0j7&client=ubuntu&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[19:40] <qswz> if I search for "foo bar"
[19:41] <qswz> thats the big annoying default
[19:41] <ash_work> back again
[19:41] <sevendogsbsd> qswz: ok, copied it but no "ubuntu"
[19:41] <qswz> when it's empty like what you see
[19:42] <ash_work> is there a conf file rather than a gui that sets terminal init size, color etc?
[19:42] <leftyfb> terminal init size?
[19:42] <ash_work> the initial/default size of the terminal, yeah
[19:43] <pragmaticenigma> if your talking about the terminal emulator that you launch in the GUI, there is a prefereces menu
[19:43] <ash_work> pragmaticenigma: right, I was talking about that, but I was hoping there was like an rc file or something
[19:43] <leftyfb> ash_work: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[19:43] <oerheks> There is no gnome-terminal conf config file. you should edit it with dconf >> dconf dump /org/gnome/terminal/legacy/profiles:/
[19:43] <leftyfb> that's for the tty's though
[19:44] <leftyfb> right, see oerheks's for gnome-terminal
[19:44] <leftyfb> ash_work: of you're using terminator (you should) then it's in ~/.config/terminator
[19:45] <oli_b> good night
[19:45] <ash_work> does anyone else second this terminator opinion?
[19:45] <Gegsite> pragmaticenigma, thanks but I'm on ubnuntu+1 and no one gives a. heck there. I would change the boot to nomodeset but I have no screen there. Maybe from live and under that change something. I'm not a programmer tho
[19:45] <oerheks> ash_work, it is not an opinion :-D
[19:45] <leftyfb> heh
[19:46] <uplime> oerheks: thats just your opinion
[19:46] <akk> Terminal clients are small, install 'em all and see which one you like best.
[19:46] <uplime> :}
[19:46] <leftyfb> ash_work: it's just a really good terminal emulator. Feel to try it or not and decide for yourself
[19:46] <ash_work> mkay
[19:46] <sevendogsbsd> akk: exactly - lot of fuss over them but I have not had issues with any of them
[19:47] <akk> I've had issues with all of them, and it's just a question of which features are more important.
[19:48] <sevendogsbsd> akk: that's a better way of putting it
[19:48] <Gegsite> when will the ubuntuforums.org working ?
[19:53] <ash_work> I vaguely remember a nomodeset problem I was having once upon a time... I wonder if that had to do with my current predicament with multiple monitors
[19:53] <u0_a179> 😊
[19:53] <xabber12345> Looking for some interactive advice for an issue I'm having with the Gajim XMPP client with a xabber.org account. Suddenly today I'm getting an SSL Certificate Verification error saying the certificate has changed to a "Lets Encrypt" certificate valid today for 3 months. Looks fishy, want to talk to someone with a xabber.org account being used with Gajim (I'm using an Ubuntu 16.04 environment.)
[19:53] <blkadder> Letsencrypt certs are only good for 3 months so that part sounds legit.
[19:54] <xabber12345> ok blkadder. Should the fingerprint being used with XMPP be identical to the SSL Cert being used for http?
[19:54] <xabber12345> *https
[19:54] <blkadder> I can't speak to that...
[19:56] <xabber12345> I've written email to info@xabber.org and tweeted to the official twitter account. They are Russian. I hope their English is better than my Cyrillic. (Of that I am certain it is.)
[19:57] <Neuthrone> Hey...does anyone know how to fix the Blank Screen of Death after getting out of suspend?
[19:57] <Neuthrone> It's become quite annoying.
[19:57] <xabber12345> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbfaAdzUQAA1oZI.jpg:large
[19:58] <Neuthrone> I'm not clicking that.
[19:59] <xabber12345> Neuthrone: It wasn't relevant to your question. Sorry, it was to something I was referencing before you came into the room. Sorry for the confusion.
[19:59] <vlt> Exterminador: This is possible but not trivial.
[19:59] <Neuthrone> xabber12345: Oh it is fine. Just was confused.
[19:59] <xabber12345> Neuthrone: That is the format for a genuine twitter image link, BTW.
[20:00] <Neuthrone> But still...kind of worried my computer is at it's end when this blank screen of death issue that has persisted since 16.04 LTS.
[20:00] <Neuthrone> Even an update wouldn't kill the damn blank screen. XD
[20:00] <vlt> Exterminador: You should think about if you could just mount volumes you create in your new volume group to mount places below "/" where you need more space.
[20:00] <xabber12345> I'm still using 16.04 and I have never experienced it, although I do not ever go into suspend.
[20:01] <Exterminador> vlt: if it's not that trivial, let it be. I was just trying to help a friend. we were wondering if we could extend "/" with the extra volume. but we'll..
[20:01] <Neuthrone> I have a System76 Oryx Pro laptop...so suspend is a common thing for me.
[20:01] <Exterminador> s/we'll/well
[20:03] <vlt> Exterminador: Moving the current root fs involves creating a logical volume, a file system, mount it, then copying (rsync, for example) everything from "/" to the new location, then some magic to change the current root fs, then you can extend the volume group adding vda.
[20:04] <Exterminador>  vlt: jeez. looks like a hell of a job.
[20:04] <SlidingHorn> Neuthrone: which kernel version are you using?
[20:05] <xabber12345> I dont like how freenode doesnt mask hostnames, doesnt allow you to use a VPN... You've got to have balls of brass that your network is secure, or just completely ignorant of the danger.
[20:05] <xabber12345> Wait, blueskaj is using the same VPN as I am. How is was that masked ^^?
[20:06] <Neuthrone> SlidingHorn: I am using 4.13.0-39-generic
[20:06] <leftyfb> xabber12345: please stay on topic. Bring any issues with Freenode to #freenode
[20:06] <u0_a179> /
[20:06] <oerheks> !cloak
[20:06] <xabber12345> ok. noone here using Gajim with a xabber account?
[20:07] <xabber12345> also thanks oerheks
[20:07] <senecaty> I'm using the default gma500_gfx driver for my intel GMA500 Poulsbo video card. It's sluggish. Are there any better drivers?
[20:07] <xabber12345> !membership
[20:07] <oerheks> senecaty, nope, that card is ancient, you are lucky to run youtube on that.
[20:08] <Exterminador> vlt: perhaps some other day, if I have the mood and you have the patience to tell me step by step how to do the things, I'd really appreciate.
[20:10] <Exterminador> vlt: this is just because we will soon deploy 5 more servers like the one we currently have and would be nice to know how to do things.
[20:11] <SlidingHorn> Neuthrone: This looks like it could be a part of Bug 1743094 - There are suggestions in the comments for Kernel versions previous and after that work
[20:13] <vlt> Exterminador: If you deploy new servers just run everything on LVM in the first place.
[20:14] <Neuthrone> SlidingHorn: Thank you so much man? Any recommendations that you can see in reinstalling a kernel other than my current one?
[20:15] <Exterminador> vlt: the problem is: we are newbies trying to do "master" things.
[20:17] <ash_work_> well, now I've got the flickering to go away by setting the driver to nvidia in `additional drivers`
[20:18] <ash_work_> but there is some weirdness where anything the mouse is over is... idk, redrawn differently or something
[20:18] <Gegsite> thanks the help again here. I'm out.
[20:20] <Exterminador> vlt: so I'd do "pvcreate /dev/vda", "pvcreate /dev/vdb".. now, the problem is to merge both volumes
[20:20] <jmgb4> Anybody work with kvm? I am having a lot of qemu issues that I am trying to resolve
[20:21] <ash_work_> hard to describe, but like if you move a window, you'll see a trail of the object you're moving ... not the whole object, just a small square where you clicked on the object
[20:21] <Neuthrone> I'm going to ask some people on the AskUbuntu forums about this...seems like someone slept on the job when they were putting the hibernate function in the Kernel...which led to the annoying blank screen freeze issue.
[20:22] <vlt> Exterminador: No, that’s easy. LVM takes any number of PVs as members of a VG.
[20:22] <Exterminador> but I need to "pvcreate" in each volume, right?
[20:23] <vlt> Exterminador: That VG appears as one big unit from wich chunks of space are used to generate the LVs you can later use as your block devices.
[20:24] <vlt> Exterminador: What does “in each volume” mean here?
[20:25] <ash_work_> https://imgur.com/a/wiJTyfR plus various other oddities
[20:25] <garrettkajmowicz> What's the best channel to get help with the 16.04LTS r8169 driver?
[20:25] <ash_work_> I guess I could try the other nvidia driver listed
[20:25] <Exterminador> dev/vda and dev/vdb (they're two different disks)
[20:25] <kostkon> garrettkajmowicz, probably here
[20:26] <kiroma> Hey I found a bug in mysql-server update process. If mysql service is disabled dpkg will stop the service before attempting to run updates on it.
[20:27] <kiroma> This breaks updates because dpkg needs a socket to connect to in order to run mysql_upgrade.
[20:28] <garrettkajmowicz> I have a small server with multiple ethernet interfaces. Over the past few months, I've started running into conditions where one of the interfaces will just stop working. ifconfig up/down doesn't seem to help. Rebooting the machine can provide some temporary relief, but I have no idea if that will be for minutes or days. I get dmesg output like "r8169 0000:03:00.0 eth1: rtl_eriar_cond == 1 (loop:100, delay: 100)."
[20:28] <ash_work_> that doesn't seem to have helped
[20:28] <gogeta> garrettkajmowicz, prbly a ip or sublet conflict
[20:28] <gogeta> subnet
[20:29] <gogeta> garrettkajmowicz, but it would be very hard to relly help without seeing the entire setup
[20:29] <garrettkajmowicz> gogeta: Config worked fine for years. Now I'm getting this error. What information would be needed?
[20:31] <ScriptGeek> I installed Unity as in the Unity Game Development Engine on my netbook and at the end a checkbox was selected to open Unity when finished installing, well it finished installing but it never opened Unity =(
[20:31] <ash_work_> does anyone feel like this has any merit? https://askubuntu.com/a/544101
[20:32] <vlt> Exterminador: I can’t fully understand why you’re asking that question and am afraid I didn’t manage to explain it thoroughly. Of course you have to use "pvcreate" on every device you, well, want to create a PV of.
[20:32] <kiroma> ScriptGeek doesn't sound like Ubuntu issue, have you tried running the executable for the editor manually?
[20:33] <ScriptGeek> I went to the installation folder and ran the program file, but it didn't do anything. It just sits there.
[20:34] <ScriptGeek> Ok, that was using Ubuntu's GUI that was installed with Ubuntu
[20:35] <ScriptGeek> Using the command line I navigated to the unity editor location and attempted to run the program. It says: Illegal instruction (core dumped)
[20:36] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, what kind of netbook
[20:36] <Exterminador> vlt: thanks. I'll read a bit more about LVM management. I'll try a few time on my own before. :)
[20:36] <nacc> ScriptGeek: is it an ubuntu package?
[20:36] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, might not be beefy enough to run it
[20:37] <kiroma> ScriptGeek what version are you trying to run?
[20:37] <ScriptGeek> kostkon: It's an Acer Aspire One D255E with 2GB RAM and I'm using a USB flash drive as a HDD to test on
[20:37] <ScriptGeek> The flash drive is 64GB and has plenty of space free
[20:38] <ScriptGeek> I'm running Ubuntu 17.10 and Unity 2018.1
[20:38] <kiroma> 2GB of ram is definitely not enough to run Unity editor.
[20:38] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, won't run it, even if you apply enough gymnastics to make it run, it will be slow and... painful. just find something better to run it on..
[20:39] <ScriptGeek> kostkon: I was hoping to use my netbook for its superior power efficiency over my behemoth laptop that requires a large nuclear reactor
[20:40] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, i guess you've found the wrong software to use as an example
[20:42] <ScriptGeek> kostkon: When running the Unity Editor on my laptop using its Windows 10 OS, the task manager says the editor program is using about 155MB of RAM
[20:42] <ScriptGeek> I used to run Unity on my netbook 7 years ago
[20:43] <ScriptGeek> But that was many versions older
[20:43] <kiroma> Yeah I checked it too, maybe your installation is corrupted?
[20:43] <crimson_king> I have a similar laptop. If I'm not mistaken, your storage device is an eMMC.
[20:43] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, it's not only about the ram requirements but also the graphics, i'm guessing it probably needs opengl3+
[20:43] <crimson_king> It's barely enough to edit videos.
[20:45] <ScriptGeek> crimson_king: The flash drive I'm using is a Silicon Power 64GB USB 3.0 stick, but it's running on a USB 2.0 port
[20:46] <ScriptGeek> Maybe I should backup the HDD and just install on there... that's got to be better than the flash drive
[20:46] <crimson_king> so it has HDD. It's not what I thought.
[20:46] <ScriptGeek> I could just resize the Windows partition on the HDD and make room for Ubuntu
[20:47] <ScriptGeek> If I can get Ubuntu running with Unity on my netbook today, I'll order an SSD that happens to be on sale right now
[20:48] <crimson_king> with 2 GB of RAM, swapping will be constant and make it slow. I've setup ZRAM on my netbook, it compresses RAM. Helps a bit. Reducing swappiness helps too. But I use MATE or Xfce. Unity is too heavy for it.
[20:49] <ScriptGeek> crimson_king: which system are you running?
[20:49] <ash_mobile> imteresting, I switched back to xorg and now I cant launch anything without the computer freezing indefinitely
[20:50] <Neuthrone> Hey guys, I am back! Fixed the blank screen issue.
[20:50] <ScriptGeek> my netbook has the Atom N455, it's a single core 1.6ghz
[20:50] <ash_mobile> Let's try unplugging the dock...
[20:50] <Neuthrone> The blank screen issue obviously occurring due to the computer freezing after suspend.
[20:50] <ash_mobile> Doesn't freeze
[20:51] <Neuthrone> Type this in...it worked wonders. sudo systemctl disable systemd-hybrid-sleep
[20:51] <marvin1> hi all again. I m trying to recover my files from a dammaged ubuntu. after create a live usb with lili, I typed sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, I got thr following message:  the disk contains an unclear file system. metadata kept in windows cache, refused to mount... anyone have any idea about what is happening? thanks in advance
[20:51] <ash_mobile> Plugging it back in...
[20:51] <ash_mobile> Doesn't seem to work
[20:51] <crimson_king> ScriptGeek, the netbook stays at home, running a Tor Relay. It's a Dell Inspiron 3162, Celeron dual core 2.0 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, Intel HD Graphics 400, 32 GB eMMC drive, very tiny blue laptop
[20:52] <ScriptGeek> crimson_king: sounds like a better machine than my netbook
[20:53] <crimson_king> ScriptGeek, it was released in 2016, I think.
[20:53] <ScriptGeek> crimson_king: oh, yeah, it's much better
[20:53] <ScriptGeek> crimson_king: did you mean yours has the Intel HD 4000 GPU?
[20:54] <Neuthrone> quit
[20:54] <marvin1> also says: the NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. please resume and shutdown Windowa fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option
[20:55] <crimson_king> ScriptGeek, no, it's really 400
[20:56] <crimson_king> ScriptGeek, if you check the newer Intel processors, they now have 3 numbers, such as Intel HD Graphics 600, 440, etc
[20:57] <ScriptGeek> crimson_king: I just looked it up... your netbook makes my netbook look like the univac
[20:58] <crimson_king> ScriptGeek, hehe, we should be talking at #ubuntu-offtopic, but i have to go now. See ya!
[21:04] <crazydiamond> Hello. Is it possible to ignore certain network nodes (such as ones shown in the middle of `mtr`'s output) when doing network requests?
[21:16] <trevorj> Hi. There seems to have been an issue with ubuntu lxd containers, at least for the last few weeks. `linux-libc-dev` is required by `libc-dev`but you cannot install `linux-libc-dev`, as the package does not expect to ever be installed as a new package?
[21:17] <trevorj> It *requires* that `.dpkg.new` files are created, but this is not always the case
[21:17] <trevorj> This is in it's postinst
[21:19] <juanschwartz> if i install 18.04 today, will it upgrade to the final packages when it drops in 3 days?
[21:20] <kostkon> juanschwartz, yes
[21:22] <EriC^^> marvin1: are you able to get an internet connection on the live usb? it would make things a lot simpler
[21:31] <compdoc> is it april 27 yet?
[21:31] <kostkon> compdoc, 26
[21:31] <NaTeK> 66
[21:38] <marvin1> eric. yes now I can
[21:39] <marvin1> I will reconect the chat from the laptop.  giveme 2 minuts pls
[21:40] <ScriptGeek> I wonder if updating the microcode will solve the issue
[21:43] <Marvin1_> I am back Eric, what can I do next?
[21:57] <EriC^^> Marvin1_: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'
[21:58] <raidghost> When IOMMU is enabled. Why does Libvirt complain ?
[21:59] <Marvin1_> it gave this: http://termbin.com/zj3u
[22:00] <EriC^^> Marvin1_: type 'sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt'
[22:00] <Marvin1_> yes, i did
[22:00] <EriC^^> Marvin1_: type 'for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done'
[22:01] <Marvin1_> yes
[22:01] <EriC^^> Marvin1_: type 'sudo chroot /mnt'
[22:01] <Marvin1_> yes
[22:02] <EriC^^> Marvin1_: type 'mount -a'
[22:02] <hanetzer> hey, queick question. is the package for say libz on arm the same one you would install if you were installing a arm cross-toolchain on an x86/amd64 machine?
[22:02] <Marvin1_> yes
[22:02] <EriC^^> Marvin1_: type 'grub-install'
[22:03] <Marvin1_> done
[22:03] <EriC^^> Marvin1_: type 'update-grub'
[22:03] <Marvin1_> yes
[22:04] <EriC^^> Marvin1_: type 'exit' then try to reboot and see if you get ubuntu's grub menu as before
[22:04] <Marvin1_> ok,i will do that, I come back . Thank you man
[22:04] <EriC^^> ok, no problem
[22:06] <jack> Hey
[22:07] <hanetzer> hullo
[22:11] <Marvin1_> Eric. I got it. I love you man
[22:11] <Marvin1_> I can't believe, you did magic
[22:13] <hanetzer> Marvin1_: nah. magic is getting windows to be fixed, since its all smoke and mirrors. Linux is Science!
[22:14] <Marvin1_> lol. It is true, that is why I dont change my ubuntu
[22:15] <EriC^^> Marvin1_: great :D
[22:15] <Marvin1_> thank you very very much  guys for making this wonderful project real
[22:21] <jason__> vaskark
[22:29] <bobdobbs> I just plugged an external 2T Seagate drive to a USB port. A blue light on the drive has activated. How do I find the drive from ubuntu?
[22:31] <oerheks> bobdobbs, it should show up in your filemanager, if not, check out the partition type of that drive, exfat needs 2 downloads to make it work
[22:32] <oerheks> sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils # and plugin
[22:33] <bobdobbs> oerheks: I can't see it in the filemanager. How do I check the partition type?
[22:33] <oerheks> sudo fdisk -l
[22:34] <oerheks> and if it is not exfat but just ntfs, check with ntfs tools for errors, that would prevent automount too
[22:34] <bobdobbs> thanks
[22:34] <oerheks> my best guess it is exfat, partitioned with windows
[22:34] <oerheks> * with gpt
[22:38] <bobdobbs> oerheks: I found the drive! I attempted to mount it and got "/media/ext: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error"
[22:39] <bobdobbs> I miss the days when external harddrives were plug'n play
[22:40] <konrados> Hello! I changed my default KDE menu start to ... something. I used right-click -> alternatives. Anyway this looks like this: https://pasteboard.co/Hi0wdo1.png and I have a question - is there any way to customize it? I would like to make the left part ('favorites') much wider. Some... config file or something?
[22:41] <Thedarkb-X40> I'm having terrible stability issues and I can't find out why because apport keeps crashing.
[22:49] <backnforth> Hi, I  have no sound coming out of my machine. I'm using Ubuntu 17.10. And no, my applications are not muted.
[22:49] <Thedarkb-X40> When's 18.04 coming out?
[22:49] <nacc> Thedarkb-X40: couple of days
[22:50] <nacc> !bionic | Thedarkb-X40
[22:50] <Thedarkb-X40> I'm praying it'll fix my stability issues.
[22:50] <Thedarkb-X40> If not, I'm going back to Debian.
[22:50] <nacc> Thedarkb-X40: you could try it now and see
[22:50] <nacc> Thedarkb-X40: or you can do that now
[22:50] <Thedarkb-X40> Do you recommend it?
[22:50] <nacc> Thedarkb-X40: do i recommend what?
[22:51] <Thedarkb-X40> Debian?
[22:51] <Thedarkb-X40> I haven't used it in years.
[22:51] <nacc> Thedarkb-X40: no and you're in the Ubuntu support channel, not a place for recommendations anyways
[22:51] <Thedarkb-X40> Yeah, fair enough.
[22:51] <nacc> Thedarkb-X40: i simply  meant you are free to do whatever you want :)
[22:54] <ScriptGeek> does anyone here use the Dell XPS 13 supercomputer?
[22:58] <Bashing-om> ScriptGeek: See: https://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2018/04/a-month-with-dell-xps-13-9370/ <-A month with Dell XPS 13 . To be 18.04 performs well in his use case .
[23:00] <ScriptGeek> Bashing-om: I get a 404 on that link
[23:00] <Thedarkb-X40> Well, this is my beater laptop.
[23:00] <Thedarkb-X40> It's my main that has the stability issues
[23:00] <Thedarkb-X40> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "artful" 17.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GHz (800MHz) • Memory: Physical: 1.2 GiB Total (530.2 MiB Free) Swap: 945.3 MiB Total (818.1 MiB Free) • Storage: 14.3 GB / 31.8 GB (17.5 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device @ Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Contr
[23:00] <Thedarkb-X40> oller • Uptime: 3d 22h 24m 18s
[23:00] <Thedarkb-X40> Shockingly this is dead stable all of the time.
[23:00] <john67765675> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu mini with lxqt but affter booting all i can i see is a black screen with a blinking cursor
[23:01] <ScriptGeek> Thedarkb-X40: of course it's stable, it's been around for 60 years lol
[23:02] <Bashing-om> ScriptGeek: Too ! lemme see what I can find out about that link .. be back soonest .
[23:02] <john67765675> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu mini with lxqt but affter booting all i can i see is a black screen with a blinking cursor
[23:03] <ScriptGeek> Thedarkb-X40: I wish my old netbook, which seems to have even more power than your machine, worked with the software I'd like to run
[23:03] <Thedarkb-X40> This is an old beater ThinkPad.
[23:03] <Thedarkb-X40> I bought it for €5.50.
[23:03] <Thedarkb-X40> It does everything I need it to as a backup machine.
[23:05] <Bashing-om> ScriptGeek: I guess the author pulled the link as I also get a 404 from the original source :( .. bottom line though was his advisement that 18.04 did well as opposed to 16.04 .
[23:05] <Thedarkb-X40> It's got a really nice keyboard and a 4:3 screen.
[23:05] <Thedarkb-X40> What more could I want.
[23:05] <Thedarkb-X40> 7 row, full travel.
[23:05] <ScriptGeek_> Thedarkb-X40: man, those screens are the best
[23:06] <Thedarkb-X40> ikr
[23:06] <Thedarkb-X40> You don't need to scroll down as often.
[23:07] <ScriptGeek_> Yeah, only thing better is a high res widescreen turned vertical, which has a nice price tag
[23:07] <ScriptGeek_> too much money
[23:07] <Thedarkb-X40> My X200 has a 16:10 screen.
[23:07] <Thedarkb-X40> Which I like for other reasons.
[23:08] <Thedarkb-X40> Also has a full travel 7 row keyboard.
[23:08] <Thedarkb-X40> I <3 old ThinkPads.
[23:08] <ScriptGeek_> My netbook only has a 6 row keyboard
[23:08] <ScriptGeek_> with chiclet keys
[23:09] <Thedarkb-X40> What's the point then?
[23:09] <Thedarkb-X40> This thing is only barely bigger than a netbook and it's much nicer to use.
[23:09] <ScriptGeek_> fits inside your underwear
[23:09] <Thedarkb-X40> Ah.
[23:09] <Thedarkb-X40> What app can't you run on it?
[23:10] <ScriptGeek_> Unity - the game engine
[23:11] <ScriptGeek_> I'm trying to upgrade the microcode to see if that helps
[23:11] <Thedarkb-X40> Oh.
[23:11] <Thedarkb-X40> That's to be expected.
[23:11] <ScriptGeek_> looks like it's running a version from 2009
[23:12] <Thedarkb-X40> Mine's from 2005.
[23:12] <Thedarkb-X40> I don't think this is going to get meltdown and spectre mitigation.
[23:12] <ScriptGeek> What do you mean?
[23:13] <Thedarkb-X40> I mean, I don't think it'll be getting any microcode updates.
[23:13] <leomessi8102> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu mini with lxqt but affter booting all i can i see is a black screen with a blinking cursor
[23:14] <ScriptGeek> Thedarkb-X40: This page looks like it might have an update for your CPU: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27591/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File?product=49491
[23:15] <Thedarkb-X40> Thanks.
[23:15] <ScriptGeek> you're welcome
[23:15] <ScriptGeek> I'm glad I could help
[23:15] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, you could try with MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=2.1 unity_executable see if it changes anything  opengl2.1 is as far as your netbook can go  wanna also try 3.0 though? be my guest
[23:16] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, that's the command:  MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=2.1 your_unity_executable
[23:16] <leomessi8102> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu mini with lxqt but affter booting all i can i see is a black screen with a blinking cursor
[23:16] <Thedarkb-X40> Stop spamming.
[23:16] <Thedarkb-X40> I think you might need to reinstall.
[23:16] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, by default you only get opengl1.4 support with gma3150
[23:17] <ScriptGeek> kostkon: It looks like Unity 2017 requires DX10, but the gma 3150 GPU only goes to DX9... maybe I can run OpenGL unstead? idk
[23:17] <ScriptGeek> I'm actually trying for Unity 2018.1. Probably the same issues
[23:17] <ScriptGeek> kostkon: I'll give that command a try, thanks!
[23:18] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, Linux version of unity uses opengl. there's no directx in Linux  assuming you are trying to run the Linux version and not the windows one through wine
[23:19] <ScriptGeek> kostkon: Unity has a build that should run on Linux native
[23:19] <kostkon> ScriptGeek, yep
[23:31] <flying_sausages> hey guys, has anyone ever seen a "configure.ac:22: warning: macro 'AM_PATH_CPPUNIT' not found in library" in the output of a autogen.sh for a ./configure?
[23:31] <flying_sausages> Trying to build libtorrent from source but I can'te get past this
[23:37] <hanetzer> flying_sausages: check configure.ac or configure.in, depending on how outdated they are
[23:37] <hanetzer> the actual configure script is not meant for human eyes or editors :P
[23:37] <flying_sausages> hanetzer, got you, what am I looking for?
[23:38] <hanetzer> flying_sausages: no clue. never heard of that particular automake macro. Also, consider ditching the autogen.sh and manually running autoreconf -fis
[23:39] <flying_sausages> hanetzer, https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent
[23:39] <flying_sausages> wait
[23:40] <flying_sausages> yeah I guess that's a pointer too
[23:40] <flying_sausages> http://rakshasa.github.io/rtorrent/
[23:40] <flying_sausages> hanetzer, I can see the line that defines the am_path_cppunit to tbe 1.9.6 but I'm wondering if there's a way to see what version i am using myself
[23:51] <roge> q conios es esto
[23:56] <hanetzer> flying_sausages: no clue, I have no experience with that package and a passing familiarity to the generics of autotools