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GridCubei don't seem to be able to edit the software sources anymore00:33
GridCubeD:00:33
GridCubeit's not in the setting menu and greyed out from the software-center00:33
Unit193pkexec software-properties  ?00:34
GridCubepkexec software-properties00:34
GridCubeCannot run program software-properties: No such file or directory00:34
GridCubeim doing an apt update && apt upgrade00:36
GridCubemaybe i should install xubuntu-desktop again just in case 00:36
Unit193apt install -s xubuntu-core^00:37
GridCubekk00:37
GridCubecan't do, says https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N9Wmgf9rgr/00:38
GridCubei guess that explains why im having graphical card problems i guess00:39
Unit193Yey, ppas! \o/00:40
Spass_hello, I'm installing Bionic Daily on my laptop now, ISO downloaded from the tracker, I have small question, is incomplete translation considered a bug or issue?03:07
krytarikUnless it's not translatable or the translation isn't applied, no.03:10
Spass_some elements in the installer are displayed in English, but most of them are in my language (Polish)03:11
krytarikThese?: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/pl/+translate?show=untranslated03:18
krytarikAnd then there is also this: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu/pl/+translate?show=untranslated03:23
Spass_yeah, mostly those, I'll try to suggest my translations on LP03:24
flocculantknome: \o/03:26
Spass_but also this WiFi password window is in English https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VExLra9w1A7gT1bxD8tePvtJD_Ds9_ZS/view03:32
Spass_and after installation has finished, I clicked restart and this shows up, instead of a "prompt to remove media and press Enter" https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NJUe1GpxlZ3aCHJ8IjoXOAZAmmaGDQp2/view03:35
flocculantseen that referenced somewhere03:35
Spass_sorry if this information doesn't belong on this channel, I'll submit my results on tracker also03:35
flocculanthttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238070003:36
Spass_thanks, I'll check that03:39
Spass_I found this also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/171919103:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1719191 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Black screen with messages after new install 17.10" [Undecided,New]03:41
Spass_but latest comments says "Problem disappeared installing Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Alpha amd64"03:42
flocculantSpass_: that's what they saw - doesn't mean it's fixed03:43
flocculantdoes the machine actually reboot?03:43
Spass_nope, it sits on this screen, cursor is blinking03:44
Spass_I'll reference this bug in the tracker comment03:44
flocculantSpass_: you need to fail the test critically03:45
flocculantcan you replicate it? 03:45
Spass_I can install the system again and check, yeah03:48
Spass_but someone on forums mentioned that changing to "Security -> Secure Boot -> Secure Boot Mode -> [Standard]" setting in BIOS helped, so I'm thinking about it03:49
flocculantSpass_: if you have time can you check without mucking about - then again after mucking about, just want to be sure it wasn't a transient issue03:50
Spass_ok, I'll reinstall without changing anything in my BIOS03:51
flocculantthanks :)03:51
Spass_I want to install fresh 18.04 after the official release so I don't mind testing, well that was my main purpose - testing, but I know I'm kinda late with that03:54
krytarikSpass_: Found LP bug 1426920 - and the Polish translation is here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/network-manager-applet/+pots/nm-applet/pl/+translate03:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1426920 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Wi-Fi Network Authentication menu not translated during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142692003:55
flocculantkrytarik: would I be right in saying that 'some applications aren't completely translated' ?03:56
flocculantlike the things Spass_ saw03:56
flocculantif so I'll just comment on the release note03:56
FurretUberWhen testing this case: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/389/builds/170812/testcases/1300/results The disk should be completely empty or it can have other partitions or a older system?03:57
Spass_wow, this bug is from 201503:57
flocculantFurretUber: up to you - but if you follow it - anything else on there will be overwritten - so be sure ;)03:58
flocculantif I did that it would certainly be an 'omg what have I done' moment03:58
FurretUberI tried in a UEFI VM that had a Ubuntu Server install, and it produced a strange partition layout: https://i.imgur.com/QBS7vFc.png03:59
Spass_krytarik, should I mark as "affect me also" that very old bug report?04:00
Spass_I just don't want to make more mess than I need to ;)04:03
flocculantSpass_: mark it affects me, comment that you're using 18.04, add bionic tag04:04
flocculantunlikely to be fixed soon though04:05
flocculantI've no idea if translations get sru'd either04:06
Spass_flocculant, second try, still the same MODSIGN error at the end, will try to change something in my BIOS and try again04:27
flocculantSpass_: ok cheers - fail it on the tracker04:27
FurretUberThe slideshow is mostly untranslated, how should this be reported?04:30
flocculantubuntu-bug ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu04:30
krytarikNo, the right path is to *translate* it.04:31
flocculantwell yea - but before this late :p04:32
krytarikYup!04:32
krytarikFurretUber: I'm guessing this?: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu/pt_BR/+translate?show=untranslated04:34
FurretUberI hope somebody else review them04:39
flocculantkrytarik: would translations get in for the first real release of 18.04 when it goes to .1 ?04:40
* flocculant generally ignores translations04:41
flocculantFurretUber: I think krytarik's point generally here is that if you want it translated - translate it ;)04:42
Spass_ok, I don't see any "Secure Boot Mode" setting in my BIOS, so I have to leave it like that04:48
flocculantmmm - that's pants then04:48
Spass_I'll just proceed to "post-install" tests04:49
flocculantthanks04:49
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r679 Launchpad automatic translations update. (by Launchpad Translations on behalf of xubuntu-dev)05:00
Spass_ok, I think I found something, when I plug in my USB drive with some files on it, it mounts and Thunar window opens, then if I click on "eject" icon in Thunar's left panel, it unmounts my USB properly but moves me to /media/mariusz/ folder05:12
Spass_on my main 17.10 system it moves me to /home/mariusz/ which is correct behaviour in my opinion05:13
flocculantSpass_: on the report you made on tracker - it reads as though you could reboot into the install05:15
Spass_yes, my installation works, I restarted (Ctrl+Alt+Del couple times) on that error screen and system/installation works fine, it booted normally05:16
flocculantoh right - misunderstanding between us earlier then05:17
Spass_my English = bad English so it happens often :)05:20
Spass_hmm, my laptop did not come back from the suspend :/ I see black screen (backlighted)05:22
Spass_no desktop, no login screen, no reaction to mouse/keyboard05:23
Spass_ok, I needed to close and open the lid, I see login screen now05:31
Spass_but it's definitely a bug of some sort, I can reproduce it05:32
flocculantI think ali1234 reported that05:36
flocculantgot to go now - work soon05:36
Spass_I've managed to crash Menu Libre pretty easily05:56
tracker1hi07:52
Unit193Hello, tracker1.07:52
tracker1I want to invoke xubuntu development, May I ask what's skill should I have?07:54
Unit193Depends, some of the Xubuntu applications are python, but...Gah.07:58
Spass_skill #1 - patience :D08:00
bluesabreali1234: are the patches on the same MR?10:28
knomeochosi, inspired by this cdimage page hacking, i landed some updated table styles for dev.xubuntu.org (essentially the same table style!)12:36
knomeochosi, will land this stuff later to the main theme along with other things in the dev. css to make the delta smaller (and to prepare a move to a wp-ran site)12:37
ali1234bluesabre: yes12:49
krytarikflocculant: "would translations get in for the first real release of 18.04 when it goes to .1 ?" - oh, to answer with your own words: "I've no idea if translations get sru'd either" - on their own, it seems rather unlikely indeed.14:25
krytarikThat is, because usually people don't care enough for it to go through all the SRU hassle - otherwise I see no problem with it passing.14:27
willemevening all. I wanted to try to do an OEM-test of the Final as I had not done that testcase before. I got as far as step 4, and then got this screen: https://imgur.com/kS2Zvbc. Testing in VirtualBox. I could try and restart the test, but first wanted your advice: should I report this as a bug?  17:56
flocculantI'd not bother tbh - chance of some random vbox being fixed is slim17:57
flocculants/vbox issue17:58
flocculantwillem: and it works ok here17:59
willemflocculant, right, thought as much. Thanks.18:19
willemflocculant, it's not quite random, though, tried 4times now. Still same result. So, I'll skip the OEM-testcase but won't report a fail.18:27
willemhmmm... wanted to do the live-test now - same problem occurs. Perhaps something wrong with my ISO...18:37
flocculantassuming it's the same iso as everyone else - I'd assume it was vbox18:51
flocculantwillem: I can at least confirm vbox appears to be broken there19:07
flocculantmmm - odd19:08
flocculantwillem: do you see the same thing if you just let the iso boot19:11
FurretUberImpressive, I sent 8 translation and one has a typo :(22:08
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