[00:33] <GridCube> i don't seem to be able to edit the software sources anymore
[00:33] <GridCube> D:
[00:33] <GridCube> it's not in the setting menu and greyed out from the software-center
[00:34] <Unit193> pkexec software-properties  ?
[00:34] <GridCube> pkexec software-properties
[00:34] <GridCube> Cannot run program software-properties: No such file or directory
[00:36] <GridCube> im doing an apt update && apt upgrade
[00:36] <GridCube> maybe i should install xubuntu-desktop again just in case 
[00:37] <Unit193> apt install -s xubuntu-core^
[00:37] <GridCube> kk
[00:38] <GridCube> can't do, says https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N9Wmgf9rgr/
[00:39] <GridCube> i guess that explains why im having graphical card problems i guess
[00:40] <Unit193> Yey, ppas! \o/
[03:07] <Spass_> hello, I'm installing Bionic Daily on my laptop now, ISO downloaded from the tracker, I have small question, is incomplete translation considered a bug or issue?
[03:10] <krytarik> Unless it's not translatable or the translation isn't applied, no.
[03:11] <Spass_> some elements in the installer are displayed in English, but most of them are in my language (Polish)
[03:18] <krytarik> These?: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/pl/+translate?show=untranslated
[03:23] <krytarik> And then there is also this: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu/pl/+translate?show=untranslated
[03:24] <Spass_> yeah, mostly those, I'll try to suggest my translations on LP
[03:26] <flocculant> knome: \o/
[03:32] <Spass_> but also this WiFi password window is in English https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VExLra9w1A7gT1bxD8tePvtJD_Ds9_ZS/view
[03:35] <Spass_> and after installation has finished, I clicked restart and this shows up, instead of a "prompt to remove media and press Enter" https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NJUe1GpxlZ3aCHJ8IjoXOAZAmmaGDQp2/view
[03:35] <flocculant> seen that referenced somewhere
[03:35] <Spass_> sorry if this information doesn't belong on this channel, I'll submit my results on tracker also
[03:36] <flocculant> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2380700
[03:39] <Spass_> thanks, I'll check that
[03:41] <Spass_> I found this also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1719191
[03:42] <Spass_> but latest comments says "Problem disappeared installing Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Alpha amd64"
[03:43] <flocculant> Spass_: that's what they saw - doesn't mean it's fixed
[03:43] <flocculant> does the machine actually reboot?
[03:44] <Spass_> nope, it sits on this screen, cursor is blinking
[03:44] <Spass_> I'll reference this bug in the tracker comment
[03:45] <flocculant> Spass_: you need to fail the test critically
[03:45] <flocculant> can you replicate it? 
[03:48] <Spass_> I can install the system again and check, yeah
[03:49] <Spass_> but someone on forums mentioned that changing to "Security -> Secure Boot -> Secure Boot Mode -> [Standard]" setting in BIOS helped, so I'm thinking about it
[03:50] <flocculant> Spass_: if you have time can you check without mucking about - then again after mucking about, just want to be sure it wasn't a transient issue
[03:51] <Spass_> ok, I'll reinstall without changing anything in my BIOS
[03:51] <flocculant> thanks :)
[03:54] <Spass_> I want to install fresh 18.04 after the official release so I don't mind testing, well that was my main purpose - testing, but I know I'm kinda late with that
[03:55] <krytarik> Spass_: Found LP bug 1426920 - and the Polish translation is here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/network-manager-applet/+pots/nm-applet/pl/+translate
[03:56] <flocculant> krytarik: would I be right in saying that 'some applications aren't completely translated' ?
[03:56] <flocculant> like the things Spass_ saw
[03:56] <flocculant> if so I'll just comment on the release note
[03:57] <FurretUber> When testing this case: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/389/builds/170812/testcases/1300/results The disk should be completely empty or it can have other partitions or a older system?
[03:57] <Spass_> wow, this bug is from 2015
[03:58] <flocculant> FurretUber: up to you - but if you follow it - anything else on there will be overwritten - so be sure ;)
[03:58] <flocculant> if I did that it would certainly be an 'omg what have I done' moment
[03:59] <FurretUber> I tried in a UEFI VM that had a Ubuntu Server install, and it produced a strange partition layout: https://i.imgur.com/QBS7vFc.png
[04:00] <Spass_> krytarik, should I mark as "affect me also" that very old bug report?
[04:03] <Spass_> I just don't want to make more mess than I need to ;)
[04:04] <flocculant> Spass_: mark it affects me, comment that you're using 18.04, add bionic tag
[04:05] <flocculant> unlikely to be fixed soon though
[04:06] <flocculant> I've no idea if translations get sru'd either
[04:27] <Spass_> flocculant, second try, still the same MODSIGN error at the end, will try to change something in my BIOS and try again
[04:27] <flocculant> Spass_: ok cheers - fail it on the tracker
[04:30] <FurretUber> The slideshow is mostly untranslated, how should this be reported?
[04:30] <flocculant> ubuntu-bug ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu
[04:31] <krytarik> No, the right path is to *translate* it.
[04:32] <flocculant> well yea - but before this late :p
[04:32] <krytarik> Yup!
[04:34] <krytarik> FurretUber: I'm guessing this?: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu/pt_BR/+translate?show=untranslated
[04:39] <FurretUber> I hope somebody else review them
[04:40] <flocculant> krytarik: would translations get in for the first real release of 18.04 when it goes to .1 ?
[04:41]  * flocculant generally ignores translations
[04:42] <flocculant> FurretUber: I think krytarik's point generally here is that if you want it translated - translate it ;)
[04:48] <Spass_> ok, I don't see any "Secure Boot Mode" setting in my BIOS, so I have to leave it like that
[04:48] <flocculant> mmm - that's pants then
[04:49] <Spass_> I'll just proceed to "post-install" tests
[04:49] <flocculant> thanks
[05:00] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r679 Launchpad automatic translations update. (by Launchpad Translations on behalf of xubuntu-dev)
[05:12] <Spass_> ok, I think I found something, when I plug in my USB drive with some files on it, it mounts and Thunar window opens, then if I click on "eject" icon in Thunar's left panel, it unmounts my USB properly but moves me to /media/mariusz/ folder
[05:13] <Spass_> on my main 17.10 system it moves me to /home/mariusz/ which is correct behaviour in my opinion
[05:15] <flocculant> Spass_: on the report you made on tracker - it reads as though you could reboot into the install
[05:16] <Spass_> yes, my installation works, I restarted (Ctrl+Alt+Del couple times) on that error screen and system/installation works fine, it booted normally
[05:17] <flocculant> oh right - misunderstanding between us earlier then
[05:20] <Spass_> my English = bad English so it happens often :)
[05:22] <Spass_> hmm, my laptop did not come back from the suspend :/ I see black screen (backlighted)
[05:23] <Spass_> no desktop, no login screen, no reaction to mouse/keyboard
[05:31] <Spass_> ok, I needed to close and open the lid, I see login screen now
[05:32] <Spass_> but it's definitely a bug of some sort, I can reproduce it
[05:36] <flocculant> I think ali1234 reported that
[05:36] <flocculant> got to go now - work soon
[05:56] <Spass_> I've managed to crash Menu Libre pretty easily
[07:52] <tracker1> hi
[07:52] <Unit193> Hello, tracker1.
[07:54] <tracker1> I want to invoke xubuntu development, May I ask what's skill should I have?
[07:58] <Unit193> Depends, some of the Xubuntu applications are python, but...Gah.
[08:00] <Spass_> skill #1 - patience :D
[10:28] <bluesabre> ali1234: are the patches on the same MR?
[12:36] <knome> ochosi, inspired by this cdimage page hacking, i landed some updated table styles for dev.xubuntu.org (essentially the same table style!)
[12:37] <knome> ochosi, will land this stuff later to the main theme along with other things in the dev. css to make the delta smaller (and to prepare a move to a wp-ran site)
[12:49] <ali1234> bluesabre: yes
[14:25] <krytarik> flocculant: "would translations get in for the first real release of 18.04 when it goes to .1 ?" - oh, to answer with your own words: "I've no idea if translations get sru'd either" - on their own, it seems rather unlikely indeed.
[14:27] <krytarik> That is, because usually people don't care enough for it to go through all the SRU hassle - otherwise I see no problem with it passing.
[17:56] <willem> evening all. I wanted to try to do an OEM-test of the Final as I had not done that testcase before. I got as far as step 4, and then got this screen: https://imgur.com/kS2Zvbc. Testing in VirtualBox. I could try and restart the test, but first wanted your advice: should I report this as a bug?  
[17:57] <flocculant> I'd not bother tbh - chance of some random vbox being fixed is slim
[17:58] <flocculant> s/vbox issue
[17:59] <flocculant> willem: and it works ok here
[18:19] <willem> flocculant, right, thought as much. Thanks.
[18:27] <willem> flocculant, it's not quite random, though, tried 4times now. Still same result. So, I'll skip the OEM-testcase but won't report a fail.
[18:37] <willem> hmmm... wanted to do the live-test now - same problem occurs. Perhaps something wrong with my ISO...
[18:51] <flocculant> assuming it's the same iso as everyone else - I'd assume it was vbox
[19:07] <flocculant> willem: I can at least confirm vbox appears to be broken there
[19:08] <flocculant> mmm - odd
[19:11] <flocculant> willem: do you see the same thing if you just let the iso boot
[22:08] <FurretUber> Impressive, I sent 8 translation and one has a typo :(