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lotuspsychjemorning guys04:10
lotuspsychje75mb bionic updates04:10
lotuspsychjeis autoremove now part of updating or livepatch?04:11
lotuspsychjehmm still asks to reboot, so lets do it04:16
ducassegood morning05:57
lotuspsychjehey ducasse07:08
ducassemorning, lotuspsychje - how's it going?07:11
lotuspsychjeducasse: fine mate, facing a long weekend holiday07:11
ducassehaving some days off? starting today?07:12
lotuspsychjeducasse: sa sun mon thu07:12
lotuspsychjeducasse: its day of the work, not sure if you know it?07:13
ducasseoh yes, "worker's day" - that's an international thing07:14
lotuspsychjeyeah07:17
ducasseright. i'm doing a major clearout of old clothes etc, trying to get rid of as much old stuff as possible to prepare for the move07:19
lotuspsychjeducasse: you have a date yet?07:19
ducassenot yet, but i thought it would be wise to start preparing early07:20
lotuspsychjeducasse: good thinking to sort already07:20
ducasseyeah, the less stuff to move the better :)07:23
lotuspsychjeducasse: then lets hope they find you something decent07:26
ducasseyes, i'm going to call them soon and ask if they've found anything yet07:28
ducasseany plans for your long weekend?07:28
lotuspsychjeducasse: surely enjoying our free time, and chill07:29
lotuspsychjeducasse: the weekend after we planned amsterdam yesss07:29
ducasseoh, cool! that sounds like fun!07:29
ducasseyou looking forward to it?07:29
lotuspsychjeducasse: was pretty expensive, but then its hotel middle of centre town07:30
lotuspsychjeducasse: yeah we going to van gogh museum07:30
lotuspsychjeducasse: and many other things07:31
ducassenice. take lots of pictures for us :)07:32
lotuspsychjewe will :p07:33
ducassealways wanted to see amsterdam myself, never had the chance. is it far from where you live?07:36
lotuspsychjeducasse: not really few hunderd km07:37
lotuspsychjeducasse: 4 days & 3 nights we go07:38
ducassesweet :) i'll have to settle with cleaning up and sorting out the veranda after winter :)07:40
lotuspsychjettyl guys work time08:19
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BluesKajHowdy folks11:22
JimBuntuMerry Monday#3 BluesKaj11:22
BluesKaj'Morning JimBuntu, well fortunately I'm retired so it's just another morning to me :-)11:23
JimBuntuBluesKaj, How dare you! How dare you to have already worked so many years/etc that you now get to retire! :-D11:24
BluesKajactually i've been retired for 19 yrs11:25
* JimBuntu is voted most likely to wander into the woods and never come back.11:25
BluesKajheh ;-)11:25
JimBuntuBluesKaj, you have been retired nearly as long as I have been working, lol.11:25
BluesKajI was a victim of the company downsizing policy, so i was able to retire with "incentives"11:27
JimBuntuBasically the same happened to my father.11:27
BluesKaji suppose victim is the wrong word, but casualty comes to mind as well :-)11:28
JimBuntuI'm not sure if victim is the wrong word, when it comes to basically being forced from a job in a non-fired sense. I get what you mean though.11:29
BluesKajyeah the 90's were a bad time for some in the 50's, not so bad for others11:29
BluesKajin their 50's that is11:30
JimBuntuMy father ended up going back to work elsewhere after a few years. I don't think he could take the retirement, especially when most of his hobbies were weekend based.11:30
JimBuntuIn his case, computers literally eliminated his specific job. He would manually route trains from source to destination and ensure each intersection went smoothly/etc. Computers are much better at this task than humans.11:32
BluesKajright I totally get that, i looked for work a couple of yrs afterwards too, and almost did go back but the money wasn't nearly worth travelling for an hr to work every morning with a large cut in pay for the same work.11:33
JimBuntuIn my fathers case, many of his hobbies were based around automobiles,... so he ended up finding a job where he could work on cars, which was something he really enjoyed doing. I'm sure he disliked the pay... but getting paid to do something you like is different.11:34
BluesKajI was an environmental lab tech and worked with spectrophotometers and other analytical instruments to measure water,effluent and air quality .. it was mostly enjoyable work , but kids coming out of college were working for half the pay I was receiving for the same job just before retirement11:37
BluesKajhence the "downsizing" by my company11:39
JimBuntuBluesKaj, yup. Big moves to get more people "educated" (% wise) hurt many economies... we are still suffering from this in other industries today. Unsure if it's the same in your region, but I suspect it is.11:40
JimBuntuIn the U.S.A., back in the mid-late 90s and early 00s, there was a big push for students to get medical degrees... from nursing to Doctorates... flooded the market for a decade or so11:42
JimBuntuNow there are a bunch of medical workers who have displaced previous workers... many of the new workers hate their jobs, as they didn't have an interest in it... was simply a way to "make a lot of money"...11:43
BluesKaj I never went college or U, started work straight out of high school at various jobs til I lucked out and got hired to test pulp and paper in the mill which worked at for 32 yrs . the company offered us lots of courses to improve our qulifications for various jobs,. it really was an enlightened work environment for close to 30 yrs, til a company with a totally diiferent culture and philososphy bought the place.The writing was on the wall11:53
BluesKajvery soon afterwards.11:53
JimBuntuSome companies (owners) care about the workers, the town and such... many don't. It's kinda sad, but I get it.11:54
BluesKajyup exactly11:57
BluesKajmy kids all grew up here, but none of them stayed, they're all living in cities12:10
BluesKajnot much future in a small town these days :/12:11
hggdhls -a .bash*15:02
daftykins$15:02
pragmaticenigmawee ... net split!15:03
pragmaticenigmaGargravarr: haha, they be banned at the source15:34
Gargravarrpragmaticenigma: sorted15:35
pragmaticenigmasorted?15:36
Gargravarras in, 'the problem is dealt with'15:37
pragmaticenigmaah15:40
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