[04:10] morning guys [04:10] 75mb bionic updates [04:11] is autoremove now part of updating or livepatch? [04:16] hmm still asks to reboot, so lets do it [05:57] good morning [07:08] hey ducasse [07:11] morning, lotuspsychje - how's it going? [07:11] ducasse: fine mate, facing a long weekend holiday [07:12] having some days off? starting today? [07:12] ducasse: sa sun mon thu [07:13] ducasse: its day of the work, not sure if you know it? [07:14] oh yes, "worker's day" - that's an international thing [07:17] yeah [07:19] right. i'm doing a major clearout of old clothes etc, trying to get rid of as much old stuff as possible to prepare for the move [07:19] ducasse: you have a date yet? [07:20] not yet, but i thought it would be wise to start preparing early [07:20] ducasse: good thinking to sort already [07:23] yeah, the less stuff to move the better :) [07:26] ducasse: then lets hope they find you something decent [07:28] yes, i'm going to call them soon and ask if they've found anything yet [07:28] any plans for your long weekend? [07:29] ducasse: surely enjoying our free time, and chill [07:29] ducasse: the weekend after we planned amsterdam yesss [07:29] oh, cool! that sounds like fun! [07:29] you looking forward to it? [07:30] ducasse: was pretty expensive, but then its hotel middle of centre town [07:30] ducasse: yeah we going to van gogh museum [07:31] ducasse: and many other things [07:32] nice. take lots of pictures for us :) [07:33] we will :p [07:36] always wanted to see amsterdam myself, never had the chance. is it far from where you live? [07:37] ducasse: not really few hunderd km [07:38] ducasse: 4 days & 3 nights we go [07:40] sweet :) i'll have to settle with cleaning up and sorting out the veranda after winter :) [08:19] ttyl guys work time === MrM1st_ is now known as MrM1st [11:22] Howdy folks [11:22] Merry Monday#3 BluesKaj [11:23] 'Morning JimBuntu, well fortunately I'm retired so it's just another morning to me :-) [11:24] BluesKaj, How dare you! How dare you to have already worked so many years/etc that you now get to retire! :-D [11:25] actually i've been retired for 19 yrs [11:25] * JimBuntu is voted most likely to wander into the woods and never come back. [11:25] heh ;-) [11:25] BluesKaj, you have been retired nearly as long as I have been working, lol. [11:27] I was a victim of the company downsizing policy, so i was able to retire with "incentives" [11:27] Basically the same happened to my father. [11:28] i suppose victim is the wrong word, but casualty comes to mind as well :-) [11:29] I'm not sure if victim is the wrong word, when it comes to basically being forced from a job in a non-fired sense. I get what you mean though. [11:29] yeah the 90's were a bad time for some in the 50's, not so bad for others [11:30] in their 50's that is [11:30] My father ended up going back to work elsewhere after a few years. I don't think he could take the retirement, especially when most of his hobbies were weekend based. [11:32] In his case, computers literally eliminated his specific job. He would manually route trains from source to destination and ensure each intersection went smoothly/etc. Computers are much better at this task than humans. [11:33] right I totally get that, i looked for work a couple of yrs afterwards too, and almost did go back but the money wasn't nearly worth travelling for an hr to work every morning with a large cut in pay for the same work. [11:34] In my fathers case, many of his hobbies were based around automobiles,... so he ended up finding a job where he could work on cars, which was something he really enjoyed doing. I'm sure he disliked the pay... but getting paid to do something you like is different. [11:37] I was an environmental lab tech and worked with spectrophotometers and other analytical instruments to measure water,effluent and air quality .. it was mostly enjoyable work , but kids coming out of college were working for half the pay I was receiving for the same job just before retirement [11:39] hence the "downsizing" by my company [11:40] BluesKaj, yup. Big moves to get more people "educated" (% wise) hurt many economies... we are still suffering from this in other industries today. Unsure if it's the same in your region, but I suspect it is. [11:42] In the U.S.A., back in the mid-late 90s and early 00s, there was a big push for students to get medical degrees... from nursing to Doctorates... flooded the market for a decade or so [11:43] Now there are a bunch of medical workers who have displaced previous workers... many of the new workers hate their jobs, as they didn't have an interest in it... was simply a way to "make a lot of money"... [11:53] I never went college or U, started work straight out of high school at various jobs til I lucked out and got hired to test pulp and paper in the mill which worked at for 32 yrs . the company offered us lots of courses to improve our qulifications for various jobs,. it really was an enlightened work environment for close to 30 yrs, til a company with a totally diiferent culture and philososphy bought the place.The writing was on the wall [11:53] very soon afterwards. [11:54] Some companies (owners) care about the workers, the town and such... many don't. It's kinda sad, but I get it. [11:57] yup exactly [12:10] my kids all grew up here, but none of them stayed, they're all living in cities [12:11] not much future in a small town these days :/ [15:02] ls -a .bash* [15:02] $ [15:03] wee ... net split! [15:34] Gargravarr: haha, they be banned at the source [15:35] pragmaticenigma: sorted [15:36] sorted? [15:37] as in, 'the problem is dealt with' [15:40] ah === jinky is now known as jink === Lukewh_ is now known as Lukewh