[04:10] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> 75mb bionic updates
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> is autoremove now part of updating or livepatch?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> hmm still asks to reboot, so lets do it
[05:57] <ducasse> good morning
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[07:11] <ducasse> morning, lotuspsychje - how's it going?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: fine mate, facing a long weekend holiday
[07:12] <ducasse> having some days off? starting today?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: sa sun mon thu
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: its day of the work, not sure if you know it?
[07:14] <ducasse> oh yes, "worker's day" - that's an international thing
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[07:19] <ducasse> right. i'm doing a major clearout of old clothes etc, trying to get rid of as much old stuff as possible to prepare for the move
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: you have a date yet?
[07:20] <ducasse> not yet, but i thought it would be wise to start preparing early
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: good thinking to sort already
[07:23] <ducasse> yeah, the less stuff to move the better :)
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: then lets hope they find you something decent
[07:28] <ducasse> yes, i'm going to call them soon and ask if they've found anything yet
[07:28] <ducasse> any plans for your long weekend?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: surely enjoying our free time, and chill
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the weekend after we planned amsterdam yesss
[07:29] <ducasse> oh, cool! that sounds like fun!
[07:29] <ducasse> you looking forward to it?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: was pretty expensive, but then its hotel middle of centre town
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: yeah we going to van gogh museum
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: and many other things
[07:32] <ducasse> nice. take lots of pictures for us :)
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> we will :p
[07:36] <ducasse> always wanted to see amsterdam myself, never had the chance. is it far from where you live?
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: not really few hunderd km
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: 4 days & 3 nights we go
[07:40] <ducasse> sweet :) i'll have to settle with cleaning up and sorting out the veranda after winter :)
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> ttyl guys work time
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:22] <JimBuntu> Merry Monday#3 BluesKaj
[11:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning JimBuntu, well fortunately I'm retired so it's just another morning to me :-)
[11:24] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, How dare you! How dare you to have already worked so many years/etc that you now get to retire! :-D
[11:25] <BluesKaj> actually i've been retired for 19 yrs
[11:25]  * JimBuntu is voted most likely to wander into the woods and never come back.
[11:25] <BluesKaj> heh ;-)
[11:25] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, you have been retired nearly as long as I have been working, lol.
[11:27] <BluesKaj> I was a victim of the company downsizing policy, so i was able to retire with "incentives"
[11:27] <JimBuntu> Basically the same happened to my father.
[11:28] <BluesKaj> i suppose victim is the wrong word, but casualty comes to mind as well :-)
[11:29] <JimBuntu> I'm not sure if victim is the wrong word, when it comes to basically being forced from a job in a non-fired sense. I get what you mean though.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> yeah the 90's were a bad time for some in the 50's, not so bad for others
[11:30] <BluesKaj> in their 50's that is
[11:30] <JimBuntu> My father ended up going back to work elsewhere after a few years. I don't think he could take the retirement, especially when most of his hobbies were weekend based.
[11:32] <JimBuntu> In his case, computers literally eliminated his specific job. He would manually route trains from source to destination and ensure each intersection went smoothly/etc. Computers are much better at this task than humans.
[11:33] <BluesKaj> right I totally get that, i looked for work a couple of yrs afterwards too, and almost did go back but the money wasn't nearly worth travelling for an hr to work every morning with a large cut in pay for the same work.
[11:34] <JimBuntu> In my fathers case, many of his hobbies were based around automobiles,... so he ended up finding a job where he could work on cars, which was something he really enjoyed doing. I'm sure he disliked the pay... but getting paid to do something you like is different.
[11:37] <BluesKaj> I was an environmental lab tech and worked with spectrophotometers and other analytical instruments to measure water,effluent and air quality .. it was mostly enjoyable work , but kids coming out of college were working for half the pay I was receiving for the same job just before retirement
[11:39] <BluesKaj> hence the "downsizing" by my company
[11:40] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, yup. Big moves to get more people "educated" (% wise) hurt many economies... we are still suffering from this in other industries today. Unsure if it's the same in your region, but I suspect it is.
[11:42] <JimBuntu> In the U.S.A., back in the mid-late 90s and early 00s, there was a big push for students to get medical degrees... from nursing to Doctorates... flooded the market for a decade or so
[11:43] <JimBuntu> Now there are a bunch of medical workers who have displaced previous workers... many of the new workers hate their jobs, as they didn't have an interest in it... was simply a way to "make a lot of money"...
[11:53] <BluesKaj>  I never went college or U, started work straight out of high school at various jobs til I lucked out and got hired to test pulp and paper in the mill which worked at for 32 yrs . the company offered us lots of courses to improve our qulifications for various jobs,. it really was an enlightened work environment for close to 30 yrs, til a company with a totally diiferent culture and philososphy bought the place.The writing was on the wall
[11:53] <BluesKaj> very soon afterwards.
[11:54] <JimBuntu> Some companies (owners) care about the workers, the town and such... many don't. It's kinda sad, but I get it.
[11:57] <BluesKaj> yup exactly
[12:10] <BluesKaj> my kids all grew up here, but none of them stayed, they're all living in cities
[12:11] <BluesKaj> not much future in a small town these days :/
[15:02] <hggdh> ls -a .bash*
[15:02] <daftykins> $
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> wee ... net split!
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> Gargravarr: haha, they be banned at the source
[15:35] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: sorted
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> sorted?
[15:37] <Gargravarr> as in, 'the problem is dealt with'
[15:40] <pragmaticenigma> ah