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SlidingHornvivus: I believe the file you're looking for is in /boot/00:01
vivusSlidingHorn: checked there, it's empty?00:01
SlidingHorn/boot/ cannot be empty00:03
vivusls -la "total 8" and only `.` and `..` are shown00:04
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winnyHello, i want to modify the message prompted to users when their password expires and they are required to change it, which pam module is responsible for this mechanism?00:06
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vivuswinny: which version of ubuntu?00:08
winny16.04.4 LTS00:09
winnyi'm talking about when logging in through console/ssh00:10
MDTech-us_MANI have kernel 4.13.0-36-generichow can I downgrade to a 4.4 kernel?00:29
Sleakerif it's available for your distro you might be able to downgrade00:32
MDTech-us_MANI have ubuntu Ubuntu 17.1000:33
xamithanhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.4.111/00:33
MDTech-us_MANhow can I set it as the default kernel?00:35
slavplayhey00:40
slavplayhey00:41
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MrF4ck3dhi😊00:51
Marquezini18.04 already finished?00:53
u0_a179hi00:54
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SlidingHorn Marquezini: It is scheduled for release on Thursday (Apr 26)00:55
BionicMacAnyone know of alternatives to 'mbpfan' or 'macfanctld' for controlling the fan on an iMac? I am curious if these are the only choices for controlling my fan here on an iMac. 'mbpfan' surely works and the code has been updated far more recently than 'macfanctld'.00:55
BionicMacI'm just looking for options.00:55
BionicMacI just installed mbpfan adn sure enough my fan stepped up from 1200 rpm to 2000 rpm right away. Configuring is not bad at all. Just making sure I m using the most effective tool here.00:58
bj_hey01:11
bj_hey all01:13
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coolchrishello01:57
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coolchriswhat time will the new ubuntu be released01:57
leftyfbcoolchris: the time is never announced01:59
leftyfb!bionic | coolchris01:59
ubottucoolchris: Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+101:59
coolchrisshould i stay awake and waio02:01
coolchrisand wait for 2 days or so02:01
coolchriscan the bionic beaver fly?02:03
coolchriswe should debate what powers he has02:03
leftyfbcoolchris: trolling is off topic02:03
coolchrisok sorry i was joking02:04
leftyfb!support | coolchris02:04
ubottucoolchris: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com02:04
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RoadRunnerwhere would I get a list of Ubuntu keyboard shortcuts?02:12
SlidingHornRoadRunner: for what?  different applications, DE's WM's etc all have their own shortcuts02:16
akkThe first time I booted this new 16.04 install there was a big list of them displayed, but it went away when I brought up a terminal.02:16
RoadRunnerSlidingHorn: I mean Ubuntu OS itself, not specific apps02:17
SlidingHornRoadRunner: okay...which DE/WM?02:18
RoadRunnerSlidingHorn: I am running Xubuntu 16.0402:19
leftyfbRoadRunner: then that is very specific to XFCE which is what Xubuntu runs by default02:19
leftyfbRoadRunner: after searching google for "xfce keyboard shortcuts" this was the 3rd main link on the page http://xahlee.info/linux/linux_xfce_keyboard_shortcuts.html02:20
SlidingHornRoadRunner: okay, so XFCE - try going to your Settings Manager > Window Manager > Keyboard tab02:20
RoadRunnerleftyfb: SlidingHorn: thank you; that gives me the general direction; one thing I am trying to track down specificaly is the action of  Ctrl-Alt-F1 on Xubuntu's LiveCD. I know that it throws me from GUI to terminal, but I wonder if there is more to it than that02:27
Goopis there a way to modify the Ubuntu live image?02:29
leftyfbRoadRunner: CTRL+ALT+F1, F2, F3 etc are built into linux to switch you to TTY's. They are completely Desktop Environment agnostic. No amount of keyboard shortcut settings will change those02:29
leftyfbGoop: yes02:29
GoopWhat I'm trying to do is have an image that resets itself every system reboot. I also want the user to never be required to set their username/password, or type in one, have that nice auto login that the "try Ubuntu without installing". The thing is, I want to permanantly install VirtualBox, Java (default-jre), and auto-mount a virtual hard drive that connects to a server, so they can save their files elsewhere.02:32
GoopI can figure out all of that, except I don't know how to get it to save.02:32
akkGoop: I haven't done that in a long time, but google ubuntu live persistent and you might find some examples.02:33
akkOh, maybe add the ubuntu release you're using because the answer might change with version.02:34
GoopIs there a way to load two images onto a flash drive--one for 32 bit and one for 64 bit processors?02:34
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kusanyone here know how to figure out mariadb on artful? I must be doing something wrong https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/psZHpkPmxT/02:36
Goopkus, what is artful?02:37
GoopI know what Mariadb is, but I've never heard of artful. I've been around the block a few times with mariadb.02:38
SlidingHornGoop: artful is the code name for Ubuntu 17.1002:38
SlidingHornkus: what exactly are you trying to do?  (haven't read the pastebin yet)02:38
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Goopkus, this doesn't tell us much. Is this your first install?02:40
kusI am trying to run wordpress locally02:42
Goopakk, Okay, so it shows me here about reserving part of the drive for persistence, but what I don't know how I would access this dedicated persistence.02:46
akkGoop: Back when I last did it, which was probably 6 years ago, if you made the persistent partition it would see it when you booted.02:46
akkAnd distros like puppy linux that are set up for persistence seem to do it that way, automatically.02:46
GoopSo it wouldn't reimage itself, it would check the persistent directory (I'm calling it that) for deltas then render those for the user.02:48
akkI believe that under the hood it's implemented as an overlay, so any changes to the base filesystem get written there.02:50
akkOr at least, was 6 or so years ago, not that I know now (you know more than I do if you've read the pages google brought up).02:51
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RoadRunnerleftyfb: so ,if  TTY's provide a virtual interface, what is the purpose of this in these rescue instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure  ?02:57
GoopWhat's Lubuntu's official site domain?03:00
GoopI see lubuntu.me, lubuntu.net03:00
krytarikGoop: "/topic #lubuntu"03:02
ThiagoCMCWill Ubuntu drop Xen hypervisor?03:02
RoadRunnerleftyfb: I mean, if you've already booted a liveCD into a GUI, why not just open a terminal window and work there rather than have CTRL+ALT+F1 throw you out of GUI and have you locked out with a login password...?03:05
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jeffreylevesquedoes this trace indicate that something in ubuntu repo is broken - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/2935#issuecomment-384149635?03:39
jeffreylevesquesome of the error links do not exist03:40
conjo_hi all am on 16.04 i was wondering if s1 could explain to me why my interface (ethernet) isnt named eth0 like most webpages list re ifconfig output.03:41
conjo_i only have one ethernet and am not on network just conn to my router03:41
conjo_direct to internet03:42
jmwconjo_ what's it called03:43
conjo_enp6s003:43
jmwconjo_: systemd changed how they get named https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/03:43
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conjo_thank you for the link03:44
conjo_will using vpn (openvpn --config) and changing macc address affect my interface naming?03:46
jmwconjo_: don't think so, since enp6s0 is based on where it is in the mainboard's PCI device enumeration03:48
conjo_could you please dumb the above down just a little03:49
conjo_;)03:49
conjo_"pci device enumeratioin" specifically please03:50
jmwconjo_: "p0s6" is a description of where the ethernet hardware is connected, so the mac address isn't going to change that03:52
conjo_thanks very much03:52
jmwif you have an actual ethernet card that goes in a pci slot instead of being built in, moving it around to a different slot would rename it03:53
tripelbso this guy tells me that in Windows as soon as he gets up to a gig of memory in the browser which is lots of tabs his system just locks up and that this is a constant problem in Windows for a lot of people. He has a quad-core machine and 4 gigs of RAM. he uses Firefox but for some reason can't use the newest version he says. -- will the same thing happen in Ubuntu?04:02
tripelbhe says that firefox can only use a single core04:02
GoopOkay, so if I make a live Ubuntu image and enable persistence can I make changes to the live image (from the live image), then make the persistent drive write-protected (I'd have to Google the 'write-protected' part, never done it before).04:05
GoopIs that correct/04:06
D00msd4y104:09
D00msd4yexit04:09
D00msd4yquit04:09
DeusExMaximumI am looking for help with the i3 Window Manager on Ubuntu. What I'm looking to do as of right now is make it so that I can change the dimmensions of the windows individually and specifically by width and by height, and make it so that I can move them around using keybinds.04:14
DeusExMaximumThere's some other stuff I want to do but I thought I'd start there.04:14
lotuspsychjeDeusExMaximum: did you find the i3 channel?04:14
DeusExMaximumI can give you a screenshot of what my setup looks like to give you an idea of what I'm doing right now.04:14
DeusExMaximumOh... no, I didn't. Sorry.04:14
lotuspsychjeDeusExMaximum: try their channel #i304:14
d00msd4y..04:23
lotuspsychjed00msd4y: can we help you?04:26
rangergordI'm on Ubuntu 16.04. According to https://askubuntu.com/questions/339255/how-do-i-make-man-pages-open-in-a-web-browser   , I should be able to open a manpage in a browser by running "BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox man --html ls". However, when I do this, FF gives me a File Not Found error. The URL is a tmp file that doesn't exist.04:30
rangergordif I just run "man --html ls", it works (but it opens in links, a CLI browser)04:32
SlidingHornrangergord: that source is 5 years old...chances are it's a little outdated...04:33
lotuspsychjerangergord: manpages you can just google too04:33
rangergordlotuspsychje: too inconvenient on slow connections, which is usually my case04:33
rangergordbut if no one knows how to solve this, then that's OK, no big deal04:34
lotuspsychjerangergord: what do you want, to see manpages a betetr way?04:34
lotuspsychjerangergord: manpage is already in your terminal right?04:35
rangergordyeah04:35
lotuspsychjerangergord: make your terminal syntax higlight or theme, then bigger font, and you get a fancy manpage04:36
paddyskype keeps opening links in chromium even though I have firefox as my default04:38
rangergordguess I don04:38
rangergorddont have much of a choice :)04:38
lotuspsychjerangergord: you could try links2 too04:40
lotuspsychjerangergord: see if your method let open links204:40
DeusExMaximumDoes anyone know a really good/aesthetic/rice terminal? I'm using xterm right now with i3 but I see some really cool ones that are multicolored used by Arch users.04:41
lotuspsychjeDeusExMaximum: ubuntu 16.04 got more themes now in settings04:42
rangergordlinks2 is the one that works (default when I dont specify a browser). The issue is that man seems to rmdir the /tmp/<random> directory it puts the html file is, before FF has a chance to open it. When it opens with links, I can see the tmp file as long as I dont close links.04:42
lotuspsychjeDeusExMaximum: check also solarized theme for terminal04:42
SlidingHornDeusExMaximum: any terminal can be riced...I'm a urxvt fan, personally, but it's completely subjective04:42
gbellinoz1riced?04:43
SlidingHorngbellinoz1: it's a slang term for theming...04:43
gbellinoz1from small Japanese car mods in the 1990s?04:43
SlidingHornyep04:43
SlidingHornno effect on performance, but it looks cool!  lol04:44
rangergordlotuspsychje: elinks works as well. It's Firefox. What's some other FOSS browser I could apt install to try? The smaller the better04:44
gbellinoz1wow.  computer people are still trying hard to be cool.04:44
DeusExMaximumThis is what my setup looks like right now.04:44
DeusExMaximumhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308802963491520513/434521130464706613/Screenshot_from_2018-04-13_18-11-26.png04:44
DeusExMaximumYeah. But what can you do. I like it.04:44
DeusExMaximumBesides, it makes me "feel" efficient. And that counts for something.04:44
gbellinoz1I'm amazed that people can deal with transparent terminals.04:44
DeusExMaximumI love them.04:45
gbellinoz1The first time I mistook a single quote for double quote I was done.04:45
SlidingHornwe're getting a bit off topic though04:45
SlidingHornlet's stick to support04:45
DeusExMaximumSorry.04:45
rangergordDeusExMaximum: can you take a normal size screenshot? Can't see anything on that04:45
DeusExMaximumI was looking for a terminal. If this isn't the chat for that, then I'll have to leave.04:45
gbellinoz1DeusExMaximum: do you like gnome-terminal?04:45
lotuspsychjewe have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel for chitchat04:45
DeusExMaximumAbsolutely not. Unless it's modifyable, which I have yet to discover it's strength. I'm using xterm. Don't know why that screenshot isn't working out for you. Let me take another and upload it to imgur.04:46
paddycan anyone reccomend a good webcam program? just for fun. cheese barely has anything and mirroring is one of the filters04:47
DeusExMaximumHere you go.04:48
DeusExMaximumhttps://imgur.com/a/5ygxo8r04:48
DeusExMaximumSee if that works.04:48
lotuspsychjepaddy: cheese04:48
paddycheese barely has anything and mirroring is one of the filters04:49
SlidingHornpaddy: well you haven't provided any required features, so it's kind of ridiculous to recommend anything other than the standard04:50
SlidingHornwe're not mind readers04:50
DeusExMaximumpaddy: you could use obs04:50
paddySlidingHorn: I mean in the original statement I said not cheese04:51
paddybut yeah04:51
DeusExMaximumThough that's a bit more on the techinical side.04:51
paddyjust lots of filters and be able to mirror on the all the filters04:51
SlidingHorna simple google search brought up at least 10 different options in the first link04:51
paddythe askubuntu page?04:52
paddybecause I've google'd it already04:52
SlidingHornokay...then what else do you want?  This isn't a software recommendation channel04:52
DeusExMaximumHey does anyone know a super minimalistic writing program for conventional everyday writing? I'd like to write just in the terminal but even vim and gedit have visual distractions. What I'm looking for is something with zero visual distractions.04:52
DeusExMaximumI used to use focuswriter but it's finnicky.04:53
SlidingHornDeusExMaximum: nano04:53
DeusExMaximumHold on.04:53
lotuspsychjepaddy: see also: apt-cache search webcam04:53
DeusExMaximumEven nano has visuals04:53
DeusExMaximumIs there a way to turn them off?04:53
paddySlidingHorn: I don't get why you're being so caty, fine if it's inappropiate to ask for a rec here but man the snide04:53
shadow98hey guys trying to run Macchanger on latest ubuntu it works and changes the wlan to a random Mac but the interface when brought back up will not reconnect to wifi04:54
shadow98http://www.ubuntugeek.com/macchanger-utility-for-manipulating-the-mac-address-of-network-interfaces-included-gui-utility.html04:54
SlidingHornpaddy: you get what you give.04:55
shadow98I also tried to run network-manager stop as suggested in comment and that is no longer a command in latest ubuntu04:55
paddySlidingHorn: I ask for a reccomendation and the infamous linux elitism comes out. petty and pathetic04:55
DeusExMaximumLooking for a very aesthetic terminal. Using xterm right now.04:55
SlidingHornpaddy: regardless, this isn't a software recommendation channel.  If you'd like to argue and moan about how "mean" i was, feel free to see me in #ubuntu-offtopic04:56
paddyDuesExMaximum: urxtv is pretty customizable and if you're willing to put work in04:57
SlidingHornDeusExMaximum: again, any terminal emulator can be themed.  I agree with paddy's recommendation of urxvt personally04:57
btphttp://thedarnedestthing.com/distraction%20free%20vim04:58
DeusExMaximumThanks for the recommendation.04:58
SlidingHornshadow98: try    sudo systemctl restart network-manager instead04:59
paddySlidingHorn: is there an ubuntu software reccomendation channel?05:00
SlidingHornpaddy: try #ubuntu-offtopic or *possibly* #ubuntu-discuss...though the second may be off topic for that purpose...not 100%05:00
paddySlidingHorn: thanks05:01
DeusExMaximumwhenever I look up urxvt it only shows "rxvt"05:02
DeusExMaximumWhat does that mean?05:02
SlidingHornDeusExMaximum: sorry, rxvt-unicode is the actual package name05:02
NayNayOK so I just did an update of 16.04 and all of a sudden my non-privileged user seems to have macgically lost his Administrator status.05:03
SlidingHornDeusExMaximum: it will look ugly and basic when you first load it...it'll take some reading to get it themed nicely05:03
SlidingHornNayNay: update *to* 16.04?05:03
NayNayupdate IN 16.0405:04
SlidingHornNayNay: okay....what did you update?05:04
NayNayjust a software update05:04
SlidingHornNayNay: ...of what?05:04
NayNayof the system. Software Updater05:04
SlidingHornNayNay: that could have been 1 application or hundreds.05:04
shadow98SlidingHorn: thank you brb I will try05:05
NayNaywell you'd think that somethingupdated that screwed with policykit, because now it is throwing a fit trying to mount USB drives05:05
shadow98SlidingHorn: unit network.service not found05:06
NayNayinstead of getting the option to restart of shutdown from unity, I can now only get lock and logout05:06
NayNayalso ethernet is not starting automatically05:06
NayNayI presume I now need privileges to do all these things - which I had already until a system update05:06
NayNayI can look in the unity users&Groups in the seetings, and all seems in order, but of course I can't change any settings because guess why?05:07
DeusExMaximumSlidingHorn: dang, I downloaded "rxvt"05:08
SlidingHornshadow98: Apologies:    sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager.service05:09
SlidingHornDeusExMaximum: no worries - you should just be able to sudo apt remove rxvt && sudo apt install rxvt-unicode05:09
SlidingHornNayNay: there's really no way for me to figure out what happened without knowing what was updated.05:10
NayNayI think it's safe to say that polkit was affected05:11
SlidingHornNayNay: I don't think it's safe to assume anything05:11
NayNaywhat else could have knocked by user around like that?05:12
NayNayI am seeing policykit errors when trying to mount USB devices05:12
NayNayis there any way of cleaning this up?05:12
NayNaysudo to root is fine. I can do things there, but unity is stuffed like this....05:13
SlidingHornNayNay: you're not providing anything useful05:13
NayNayneither are you as it turns out05:13
SlidingHornNayNay: I'm not asking someone to diagnose a problem on my system and giving no information.05:15
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NayNayI just *gave* you  information... but clearly you want to be difficult. That's fine. Have a nice day.05:16
Skaface82hey ive just tried installing android-tools-adb via apt-get, and its saying the hash does not match05:19
SlidingHornSkaface82: is this from a PPA?05:19
shadow98SlidingHorn: that worked now to see if after running macchanger it works05:20
Skaface82android-libadb_7.0.0+r33-2_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch05:20
Skaface82sorry what do you mean from a PPA?05:20
SlidingHornSkaface82: what flavor and version of Ubuntu are you using?05:20
eraserpencilWhy do I have /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd, /dev/sde, /dev/sdf when I plug in a microSD card? I've been trying to remove and delete them05:21
eraserpencilthey have no size details except for /dev/sdf05:21
SlidingHorneraserpencil: those are automatic place-holder names for storage devices (sd...) that you're adding and/or removing from the system05:21
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Skaface82ubuntu 17.105:22
geniiSkaface82: It's not often that it happens, but once in a while between the time that you get a list from apt-get update and the time you install something, the hash sum from update has changed due to the file being different ( newly uploaded usually). Or else you didn't run apt-get update before installing05:22
NeonLight118hello05:22
eraserpencilSlidingHorn: anyway to not have them?05:22
Skaface82yeah ive tried apt-get update first and that made no difference05:22
NeonLight118who's here from Toronto ?05:23
SlidingHornNeonLight118: do you have an ubuntu support question?05:24
Skaface82it would be interesting if someone else could try to install it who is running the same version ubuntu as me?05:25
SlidingHornSkaface82: try this:    sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update     then try to install05:27
NeonLight118SlidingHorn: my main concern is that quite often I would use internet connection and I'm forced to reconnect05:27
NeonLight118loose*05:27
PestovcWhat05:28
Skaface82SlidingHorn: i just tried that and I have the same issue05:28
srukleWhen will Ubuntu 18.04 be released?05:28
geniisrukle: Tomorrow05:28
geniiMeaning Thursday05:28
sruklegenii: ok thanks05:29
geniisrukle: Sometime in the afternoon UK time, usually05:30
SlidingHornSkaface82: are you having issues installing any other packages?  Also, please post the output of the following:    cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit05:30
shadow98https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/183489/changing-the-hostname-on-a-linux-mint-desktop-to-a-random-value-at-boot-time05:31
lotuspsychjegenii: can we talk in discuss plz05:31
shadow98I tried hostname "$new" and it failed to randomize the hostname05:32
Skaface82no, I have had no other issues installing packages05:32
Skaface82http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xYq5BzYfg7/05:32
SlidingHornshadow98: what version are you using again?05:32
shadow98latest download 17.10.105:33
geniilotuspsychje: I don't generally hang in there, and I have to leave soon05:33
lotuspsychjegenii: yeah i know was just a quick proposal05:34
sky887!itssoonout05:35
lotuspsychje!party > sky88705:36
ubottusky887, please see my private message05:36
SlidingHornSkaface82: I'm thinking that the mirror you're using is having issues?  try opening the Ubuntu software center, click the Edit menu > "Software Sources" and click the "Software" tab - try selecting a different mirror from the dropdown list05:37
SlidingHornSkaface82: ("Download from")05:37
shadow98SlidingHorn: latest download 17.10.105:37
SlidingHornshadow98: I saw...just trying to help multiple people at once...please try to be patient.05:38
shadow98SlidingHorn: yes I just realized I had not put your nick some people have IRC setup to notify them on response so I wanted to make sure it wasn't missed.05:39
SlidingHornno worries shadow98  :)05:39
Skaface82SlidingHorn: thank you ill try changing to the main ubuntu server rather than the au mirror05:41
Skaface82ill let you know how i go05:41
SlidingHornSkaface82: good luck05:41
SlidingHornshadow98: are you using the macchanger-gtk  GUI?05:42
SlidingHorn(this isn't an application I've ever used, so I'm just as new with it as you are, FYI...)05:42
shadow98SlindingHorn: no command line trying to make this into a script05:43
Skaface82SlidingHorn: that worked, thanks for your help :)05:43
SlidingHornSkaface82: glad it worked...you may want to try the au repos again later...they may just be having issues05:46
SlidingHornshadow98: I'm not seeing anything in the macchanger manpage about changing the hostname05:48
shadow98SlindingHorn: yeah trying to do it with the hostname command built into linux but randomize it05:49
SlidingHornshadow98: ah, that's probably beyond my scope05:49
shadow98no worries05:49
NoruxHi :)05:50
SemiControlDoes doing history -c completely destroys history and its not recoverable ?05:56
lolipolp+05:59
lolipolphi everyone05:59
lolipolpanybody here?06:00
EriC^^!ask | lolipolp06:00
ubottulolipolp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:00
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mastMother of God I just spent two hours trying to figure out why my NFS shares would not mount at boot... and it turns out I just left out a number from the IP address06:02
mastI am the smartest man alive06:02
mikahe這是啥06:03
SlidingHorn!cn | mikahe06:04
ubottumikahe: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw06:04
mikaheinteresting06:05
mikahehow to join a new channel06:07
mikahejust like #linuxba06:07
SlidingHornmikahe: /join #linuxba06:07
mikahethanks06:08
mikaheis work06:08
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kab0mhi together06:25
gogetakab0m, wana fight about it06:25
gogetalol06:25
kab0mgogeta: fight about what? ^^06:26
gogetakab0m, dunno we will think of something06:27
emrHello, i'm getting error when i restart netfilter service here is the log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FqYbxW4xPd/06:27
emrany ideas?06:27
kab0mlulz...atm i fight about a bug i have with 18.04 ^^ maybe you can help with that gogeta06:27
gogetakab0m, if your talking about the memery leak not mutch can be done atm06:28
kab0mNope, i talk about the bug "error while loading shared libraries: libzstd.so.1" while running "apt-get upgrade" with the 18.04 Beta06:29
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sky887SemiColor06:37
mikahe06:37
SlidingHornmikahe: english only in here, please.06:42
wyseguyhey all06:53
Noruxhi wyseguy06:54
DeusExMaximumHey how do I change the default file manager that comes up when I want to, say, add an image to the chat in Discord or something?06:55
wyseguyhave a ssh key on root, logged in made a new user, changed sshd_config and turned off root login and changed ssh port, restarted the sshd service and logged out, now trying to log in as new user and its asking for a password... not sure why, public key should let me in06:55
wyseguyNorux yo06:55
wyseguyDeusExMaximum sorry dont know, no gui here :p06:55
NoruxDeusExMaximum: https://askubuntu.com/questions/84929/how-to-set-up-dolphin-as-default-file-manager06:55
demahumBionic final release should be out tomorrow. Is there an exact hour for that?06:55
SlidingHorndemahum: no time - just some time on the 26th06:56
demahumSlidingHorn: phew, ok, thanks.06:56
wyseguyi didnt add the key to the new user home folder lol, well hell06:57
wyseguynow im locked out haha, time to delete the VM and spin up a new one06:58
NoruxIs there a changelog for the "old" beta versions?06:58
shadow98how do you show hidden files in the file mgr in the latest version06:59
wyseguyoh nm, was able to get in through KVM :)06:59
sky887How do you show hidden files in the files? The x-files07:00
Noruxshadow98: as far as I know, Strg+H07:00
NoruxCtrl+H outside of germany, that is :D07:01
wyseguyokay i created a ssh key on an ubuntu server and i can only log in as root, i'm going to disable root but i need to copy the key over to the new user that i created... ssh-copy-id command?07:03
DeusExMaximumNorux: I can't seem to get it to work. I bring up the file manager to search for the application and I can't find ranger. Is ranger possible to use in this manner?07:04
Triffid_Hunterwyseguy: why not make a new key?07:04
DeusExMaximumRanger doesn't seem to have a .desktop file.07:04
wyseguyTriffid_Hunter digital ocean...07:04
wyseguyeasier if i just copy it, should be easy...07:05
NoruxDeusExMaximum: look for it in the terminal, using `ls -la`07:05
Triffid_Hunterwyseguy: afaik ssh-copy-id just does cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh me@server 'cat - >> .ssh/authorized_keys' or so, it's not for moving a private key from one account to another and renaming it on the way07:05
ducasseDeusExMaximum: you would need to create a desktop file that launches ranger in a terminal07:06
wyseguythinking it would be like ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/mykey user@unifi07:06
wyseguyya but you can cat it over to a user like a echo type of command, thought ssh-copy-id would do that07:06
wyseguylet's see if i break it :p07:07
Triffid_Hunterwyseguy: the thing is then your authorized_keys on the server will list a key from one user@machine but you'll actually be using it from a different user@machine.. might work once or twice but it's really unsustainable as far as key management goes07:08
wyseguyokay, so just manually mkdir and cp them over?07:08
wyseguyjust looked in ~/.ssh and there is one file in there called authorized keys, there is just 1 line in there with the key07:10
wyseguythinking i cp that .ssh folder over to the new user...07:10
DeusExMaximumducasse: I just tried making a .desktop file and using exo-utils to make it default but it still won't work.07:13
DeusExMaximumI'll show you what I wrote in the desktop file. I tried copying the others.07:13
DeusExMaximumNothing broke, by the way.07:13
wyseguyTriffid_Hunter mkdir /home/blake/.ssh07:14
wyseguyls07:14
wyseguywhoops07:14
wyseguycp authorized_keys /home/blake/.ssh/07:15
DeusExMaximumducasse: https://imgur.com/a/tcRPkP207:15
wyseguymight work? :)07:15
DeusExMaximumcan someone look at that image I just posted and see why it's not working.07:15
DeusExMaximumI want to set up ranger as my default file manager07:15
wyseguyDeusExMaximum i think its the clouds in the background07:16
DeusExMaximumOr any file manager, for that reason.07:16
DeusExMaximumOh yeah, that. My terminal is slightly tranparent, haha.07:16
wyseguylol07:16
DeusExMaximumPlz ignore.07:16
wyseguyim not sure07:16
DeusExMaximumhm.07:16
wyseguysomeone else might07:16
ducasseDeusExMaximum: you'd probably need to either set terminal to true or start it in a terminal on the exec line07:16
Triffid_Hunterwyseguy: on the server? yeah that'll work too although you'll have to change the permissions on the file appropriately or sshd will ignore it07:16
DeusExMaximumhow do I start it in terminal in the exec line? What would the syntax look like?07:17
DeusExMaximumThanks guys for your input and help so far, by the way.07:17
ducasseDeusExMaximum: typically "name-of-terminal -e ranger", but try setting terminal to true first07:18
wyseguyTriffid_Hunter chown? or just permissions07:19
DeusExMaximumOh. Yeah, I tried setting terminal to true just now and it doesn't work, still. Fingers crossed with this next try, though!07:19
wyseguyTriffid_Hunter maybe just chmod 664 on the .ssh/authorized_keys07:20
wyseguyand chmod 755 on the .ssh folder...07:20
DeusExMaximumducasse: nope. still doesn't work. darn. I hit the "add attachment" button in Discord an it just brings up the default file manager.07:21
geirhaif you do that, ssh will refuse you07:21
geirha.ssh should be 700, and .ssh/authorized_keys should be 60007:21
ducasseDeusExMaximum: afaik that will just open the gtk or qt file selector, not a full file manager07:22
wyseguygeirha i set 755 on the folder and 644 on the file and it worked07:22
DeusExMaximumducasse: is "afaik" internet slang for something or is that something I should know? Also, what does that mean? How do I augment what pops when I hit the attach file button on anything (be it firefox, discord, etc...) and is it even possible?07:23
NoruxDeusExMaximum: as far as i know07:24
ducasseDeusExMaximum: 'as far as i know'07:24
ducasseDeusExMaximum: not possible, it's part of the program and depends on the toolkit used07:25
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Triffid_Hunterwyseguy: afaik they should be 700 and 600 respectively, with auth keys owned by the relevant user07:36
wyseguyTriffid_Hunter yes07:37
jluc"StatupNotify" should probably rather be "StartupNotify" deusnotthereanymore07:40
SilmarilionMorning, was wondering how secure are gnome extensions listed on extesnions.gnome.org. Does somebody evaluate them from Gnome Project before being accepted or anybody can submit anything?07:41
ducasseSilmarilion: you should probably ask the gnome people07:44
MrM1stHi all07:49
hans_uhm, was just updating an 16.04 system, and got this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gW6ZGNYscC/07:52
hans_should i be worried?07:52
MrF4ck3dhello07:56
ubuntu-matehello07:56
Noruxhi07:56
ubuntu-matenew ubuntu user here07:57
Noruxubuntu-mate: welcome!07:58
bumblebee69.08:18
wyseguyif i add a cert to my domain say abcd.com then i add a subdomain like test.abcd.com, when you go to test.abcd.com does it also become secure?08:18
u0_a179bonjour08:20
guivercu0_a179, Hi, we use english here, so if you have a Ubuntu support question please just ask it. If you want to speak french #ubuntu-fr may be more useful (apologies if its not french, I don't speak francais)08:44
utbnthi all08:54
utbntI'd like to know if it is not risky08:54
utbntto put the PC case flat, sry for my english08:55
guivercutbnt, if the pc was normally 'vertical', changing to flat will generally work, however it may have increased costs on some hardware (eg. spinning drives, motors found in cooling fans etc) which may shorten life (esp. if its spent a lot of its life spinning the gravity pulling one direction)08:58
hans_wyseguy, wrong channel, try #webdev or something. but it depends on your cert, if you have a "wildcard certificate", yes. otherwise no, the browser will complain about an invalid certificate.08:59
hans_wyseguy, (the wildcard certs are usually expensive. if you have a cheap / free cert, it's almost certainly not a wildcard cert)09:00
utbntthx guiverc & mrspoke, I'll stick to vertical when I upgrade to 18.04 final :)09:00
hans_utbnt, as long as the fans still have a good airflow, sure no problem. but if you have the fans facing the ground, you'll probably get overheating problems.09:02
utbntI have another question, sorry for this09:02
utbntbut what is the exact date of Ubuntu 18.04 Final release ? I head there is a problem with gnome shell memory leak09:03
mastAnyone here run plex servers? Do you know what the hell could be up with stupid high "nice" cpu usage?09:03
Ben64utbnt: 26th09:03
utbntthx, oh I have a last question09:04
utbntwill Nvidia Drivers be ready for 18.04 release date thx in advance09:04
Ben64utbnt: ask in #ubuntu+109:06
BusyLMAre there any ram drivers available ?09:08
gunixhey guys, any idea if nvidia+steam is working properly on ubuntu 18.04? so just install and no bugs/errors and you can just play09:21
Ben64gunix: ask in #ubuntu+109:21
gunixisn't 18.04 live ?09:21
Ben64no09:21
gunixoh ok sorry09:22
gunixand thank you!09:22
gunixi'll stick to 16.04 than!09:22
Ben64~2 more days left09:22
ajayHII09:26
hans_Ben64, i thought they're supposed to release it tomorrow?09:28
guiverchans_, it gets released thursday  (UST or London time, so maybe friday morn my local time)09:29
anzipexHow to fix "Open with" in nautilus? gedit program doesn't show there09:31
anzipexAnd i also can't delete LibreOffice Writer and notepad from that menu09:32
anzipexUbuntu 14.04 x8609:34
guivercanzipex, gedit shows up in my nautilus as 'text editor'  (sorry I'm not on 14.04 so haven't tested there)09:35
brainwash!isitout09:36
ubottuNot yet!09:36
anzipexguiverc, the problem is that i can't add gedit in this "Open With" menu. If i choose "Other Application..." and pick gedit, it opens up, but "Open With" still doesn't have gedit09:39
guivercanzipex, i just booted my 14.04 (unity) and my open with lists it as 'gedit' (open with) and if i use it it opens selected file with gedit.  are you wanting to make 'gedit' the default for that filetype?09:41
anzipexguiverc, yes09:41
guivercclick the file (so its highlighted in nautilus/files), then right click & select properties.  then go to "open with" tab & select what you want to be the default app09:42
guiverc(use 'set as default' to make gedit the default for that file.type)09:43
MrM1st_From time to time, Ubuntu just completely freezes. I'm unable to do anything09:44
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MrM1stI'm using 17.10 btw09:45
anzipexguiverc, all text files now opens with gedit, just want to add gedit to "Open With" too. So, the problem is nautilus doesn't want to add gedit to "Open With"09:45
MrM1stAnyone else experience that 17.10 freezes?09:46
guivercsorry anzipex I misunderstood. gedit already showed in my 'open with' menu09:47
anzipexI found solution, in gedit picked Preferences > Plugins > File Browser Panel. Now that's what i want. If i make right click on text file it shows up Open with gedit09:47
guivercwell done anzipex !09:47
blackflowMrM1st: checked the logs for any clues?09:47
blackflowMrM1st: it happens for me too, but under some specific circumstances involving firefox and netflix.09:48
blackflowand it happened only twice so I can't even be sure it's just that.09:48
MrM1stTo me it seems to be happening when using spotify09:48
MrM1stThe snap package09:48
blackflowMrM1st: so, checked the logs for any clues?09:49
MrM1stblackflow: looking at syslog now. Don't know what I'm looking for09:50
MrM1stblackflow: happened again :(10:03
anzipexHm.. I've got problem with Alt keyboard button. When i rename file or folder and want to use another language source i press Shift + Alt. After that it stops renaming and that's the problem10:05
blackflowMrM1st: assuming you rebooted, you can look at the lines immediately preceding reboot. you can find where the logging starts after reboot (so look before that), because syslogd will log it's starting, something like:     rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="8.16.0" x-pid="2031" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] start10:05
anzipexHow to fix this?10:06
anzipexSeems like Alt key like Esc10:06
MrM1stblackflow: Apr 25 11:57:21 cwork kernel: [ 1056.435515] [drm:drm_atomic_helper_swap_state [drm_kms_helper]] *ERROR* [CRTC:41:head-1] hw_done timed out10:07
MrM1stApr 25 11:56:52 cwork firefox.desktop[2482]: ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientSourceOp::Msg___delete__ Route error: message sent to unknown actor ID10:07
blackflowMrM1st: nvidia?10:08
MrM1stblackflow: Mm. quadro-chip to be exact. How do you know?10:08
blackflowMrM1st: I didn't, I asked. I have nvidia too. I hear it's often the cause of such crashes.10:09
Norux!paste | MrM1st10:09
ubottuMrM1st: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:09
blackflowMrM1st: that first error sounds serious, and it happened in the DRM/KMS layer of the kernel, which involves the GPU10:09
blackflowMrM1st: is 11:57:21-ish the time it froze?10:10
MrM1stblackflow: there's some nouveau-messages before that as well10:10
MrM1stat 11:57:1510:10
blackflowMrM1st: oh noveau driver? that's even more reason for a crash. I've had big issues with it. I run the proprietary driver.10:11
MrM1stblackflow: ah.. Hmm. that might be it then.. hold on. I'm pastebining10:11
blackflowMrM1st: wait, if it froze at 11:57:15, and that error entry is 6 seconds later, it's _after_ reboot?10:11
MrM1stblackflow: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R5rC6JF4rv/10:13
MrM1st"blackflow" this is the lines BEFORE rsyslog: .... start10:13
blackflowseems like that's the cause of the crash10:14
MrM1stSo it's the nouveau-driver behaving badly?10:14
blackflowMrM1st: that would be my guess.10:15
blackflowMrM1st: if the crashes happen often, you could run for a while with the proprietary driver. If the crashes dissapear, that's pretty much it then.10:16
MrM1stblackflow: Seems like something worth trying. How do I install the proprietary driver?10:16
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MrM1stblackflow: Is it as simple as "sudo aptitude install nvidia-384?" ?10:17
blackflowMrM1st: "Additional Drivers" tab of the "Software & Updates" app. Or use the command line. for me it's the "nvidia-390" package because I use the graphics-drivers PPA10:17
MrM1stwhich ppa?10:18
blackflowMrM1st: yeah I think 384 is the latest in the LTS10:18
MrM1stblackflow: I'm doing vulkan-stuff as well, so I'm rather interested in keeping up with the drivers10:19
blackflowMrM1st: this one  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers10:19
blackflowMrM1st: but I wouldn't recommend it yet. Use the LTS driver first, see if that fixes the crashes.10:19
MrM1sthehe.. OK :)10:19
blackflowusing that PPA means having latest drivers installed, which then means potentially more problems to deal with.10:20
MrM1stthe 384-package will update to newer versions if the show up?10:20
blackflowMrM1st: only in the 384.x branch10:20
MrM1stblackflow: Is there something like a meta package that will opdate when a newer version is available?10:21
MrM1st-o+u10:21
blackflowMrM1st: not that I know of.10:22
MrM1stInstalling now10:22
MrM1stmight have to reboot10:22
blackflowyou definitely have to reboot :)10:23
MrM1stHow will I be able to detect the new driver being used?10:23
blackflowMrM1st: dmesg | grep nvidia      and      | grep nouveau  (shouldn't appear)10:25
MrM1stblackflow: thanks10:25
MrM1stbooting... I'll be back10:25
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luna_18.04 release tommorow evening o/10:39
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MrM1stblackflow: Back11:05
capsock1hi at all11:07
capsock1does anyone know why i find some packges in the ubuntu software center which i cant find in kubuntus discover or muon? For example "Signal Messenger" or "Spotify"11:07
MrM1stcapsock1: span install spotify? :P11:07
MrM1stcapsock1: snap install spotify11:07
capsock1Haha thanks MrM1st :)11:09
capsock1is there any way to see snap-apps in discover or muon?11:09
MrM1stcapsock1: No problem :) it's not officially supported though11:09
MrM1stcapsock1: I'm not using KDE, so I wouldn't know. I tend to stick with the terminal11:10
MrM1stand Gnome311:10
capsock1MrM1st: Ok, thank you anyhow ;)11:11
MrM1st:)11:11
miksonsiema11:14
miksonwhamma fuck11:14
miksonits raw]11:15
MrM1stblackflow: Hmmm.. seems the Gtile extension doesn't work as expected anymore11:15
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capsock1MrM1st and for anybody else interesst: If you want to manage your Snap-packages in Kubuntus Discover one simply just have to "apt install plasma-discover-snap-backend" any everything is set :)11:21
BluesKajHowdy folks11:22
vipulgupta2048?/11:28
francisvDo I need to remove gnome-screensaver and install xscreensaver (and extras) to have an screensaver in Ubuntu 17.10?12:01
francisvI found it in https://askubuntu.com/questions/292995/configure-screensaver-in-ubuntu12:01
francisvbut that answer refers to Ubuntu 12.04.12:02
cfhowlettdual screensavers are likely to cause issues, francisv12:02
francisvI have an external display connected to my computer.  When it sets blank screen, and then when I return from the blank screen, the external display stays in hibernation mode.12:03
francisvAn easy work around would be to have an screen saver instead12:03
micwHi. I'm testing 18.04 in virtualbox. I installed the guest utils, dkms and x11 driver. When I switch to fullscreen, the screen gets messed up and does not respond until I switch back to window. I remember that I had similar in 17.10 (so stayed with 16.04)12:04
zprdhi, i would like to create lxc container of type centos with th 7.5 release, on artful12:04
Noruxmicw: ask about 18.04 in #ubuntu+112:04
francisvcfhowlett: dual screen savers would like issues, therefore removing gnome-screensaver first is a sensible thing to do?12:04
francisvs/like/cause12:04
cfhowlettindeed.  ONE screensaver might work for you.12:04
francisvok, then I will proceed as https://askubuntu.com/questions/292995/configure-screensaver-in-ubuntu12:05
francisvThank you, cfhowlett12:05
cfhowletthappy2help!12:05
micwok12:06
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blackjackfsHi, I recently upgraded 16.04 from 14.04. Before <ctrl><alt><f1-f6> would take me to another tty where I could log in. Now there is no login shell. Just a "-" at the top left corner.12:24
blackjackfss/upgraded/upgraded to/12:24
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brainwashblackjackfs: and if you run "sudo systemctl start getty@tty1"? does that initialize tty1 (F1) properly?12:30
blackjackfsbrainwash, Nope, still nothing.12:31
BluesKajthought F1 was now for the desktop replacing F712:32
BluesKajblackjackfs, try F2 - F612:33
brainwashblackjackfs: what does "systemctl status getty@tty1" give?12:33
GargravarrBluesKaj: i thought i was going crazy when i spotted that on Bionic :)12:34
Gargravarr'where TF is TTY1??'12:34
blackjackfsBluesKaj, still nothing12:34
jackhumis there anyway i can change my webcam name in ubuntu12:34
BluesKajblackjackfs, what about nomodeset?12:35
blackjackfsbrainwash, "systemctl status getty@tty1" > https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R9W93CKdRD/12:36
brainwashjackhum: maybe with a simple "lsusb" in the terminal12:37
brainwashjackhum: oh. you want to change it..12:37
blackjackfsBluesKaj, not sure what's nomodeset. Is that a command?12:37
BluesKaj!nomodeset12:37
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter12:37
jackhumbrainwash, i want to change name of my camera , like i am using webcamstudio and i want to rename the video device name to something else12:37
blackjackfsBluesKaj, nomodeset is not set nor was it set before (on 14.04). I know this because I had to modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to "quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"12:40
ioriablackjackfs,    try  '  sudo chvt 1   '12:41
brainwashjackhum: could be possibly done with a udev rule, but that may be tricky12:41
BluesKajblackjackfs, nomodeset is a temporary work around mainly to get to desktop anyway it's not meant to be a permanent setting12:42
blackjackfsioria, Won't I be effectively locked out if chvt 1 doesn't return a shell?12:44
EriC^blackjackfs: why isn't ctrl+alt+f# working?12:44
ioriablackjackfs,    are you in graphical mode atm ?12:45
blackjackfsyes, I'm on f712:45
ioriablackjackfs,    sudo chvt 112:45
blackjackfsEriC^, For example, if I go to f1, it doesn't show a shell for login like it use to on 14.04. It just shows a "-" on the top left corner.12:46
blackjackfsioria, Ok, trying it now.12:46
blackjackfsioria, Nope, "chvt 1" shows the same behaviour.12:47
ioriablackjackfs,  ps -A | grep  tty12:48
stevenmCan anyone offer an explanation for why tty1 is always blank?  (i.e. on a normal Ubuntu desktop, when you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1)... it's the same on all of them... but it's just blank... i.e. if you're happy to type blind - then you can login and run stuff12:48
EriC^blackjackfs: what about f2?12:48
blackjackfsioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KDVGcjqwqZ/12:48
stevenmit was like this both on 14.04 and 16.0412:48
blackjackfsEriC^, I tried all the way upto f6.12:49
stevenmblackjackfs, any chance you're experiencing the same?12:49
blackjackfsstevenm, But for me it was working fine on 16.04.12:50
BluesKajstevenm, try F2 instead12:50
stevenmBluesKaj, i already said it's all of them (F1 to F6)12:50
ioriablackjackfs,  yeah, they are all activated12:50
stevenmwell I'm still on 16.04 - no worky12:50
NoruxEriC^: Where has your second '^' gone :O12:50
stevenmbut VLC was making my desktop instable... so I did   Ctrl+Alt+F1 ... username ... <enter> ... password ... <enter> ... killall -9 vlc12:51
stevenmworked fine12:51
BluesKajstevenm, ok my mistake12:51
stevenmso I know it is there - but the screen is just blank12:51
ioriablackjackfs,  what happens if you press a key ?12:51
blackjackfsioria, nothing.12:51
stevenmit's nothing new - been like this for months, just annoying when you really need it - then you likely give up and reboot, then i can never be bothered to raise the issue12:52
stevenmblackjackfs, you on intel onboard graphics by any chance?12:52
ioriablackjackfs,  what's your kernel ?  uname -r12:52
blackjackfsOk, stevenm got me thinking. I can confirm the tty is working. It's just not visible.12:53
stevenmyeah same issue12:53
blackjackfsI did   Ctrl+Alt+F1 ... username ... <enter> ... password ... <enter> ... touch /tmp/zzzz12312:53
blackjackfsand it works.12:54
stevenmit's an odd co-incidence we're both in here at the same time talking about the same issue12:54
BluesKajdoesn't ubuntu have a system monitor where on can send a terminate/kill signal to a process?12:54
stevenmunfortunate to see it persists in 18.04 though if that's what you are on12:54
blackjackfsioria, 4.4.0-121-generic12:54
blackjackfsstevenm, odd indeed.12:54
JimBuntuBluesKaj, "system monitor" then "processes" if I remember correctly12:54
ioriablackjackfs,  ok, i's take a look in /etc/default/grub12:54
ioriai'd12:55
stevenmi reckon it's something to do with the text mode that it tries to set by default12:55
BluesKajJimBuntu, Kubuntu has one in the maim menu12:55
stevenmblackjackfs, what graphics you got in that thing?  not a dell is it? :D12:55
BluesKajmain even12:55
stevenmi get this on my crappy work machine (at work at the moment)12:55
ioriablackjackfs,  maybe paste it12:55
blackjackfsioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vfxwnBmnD8/12:56
blackjackfsIt is indeed a dell.12:56
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stevenmlol, an optiplex 3020 by any chance?12:56
zteamHi! just a question: can anybody else here with Ubuntu 17.10 just access there desktop folders, by just double-click them from the desktop? (if I try right from the desktop it won't work, but from nautilus it works completly  as expected12:56
blackjackfsstevenm, I'm on 16.04, it was working fine on 14.04.12:57
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ioriablackjackfs,  any proprietary driver in use ?12:57
ioriablackjackfs,  video driver, i mean12:57
blackjackfsstevenm, nope, Inspriron 15 3000 series12:58
blackjackfsioria, Not that I know of.12:58
ioriablackjackfs,  try to remove acpi_backlight=vendor  and run sudo update-grub and reboot12:58
stevenmblackjackfs, intel hd graphics like mine then12:58
wiqHow to install python 3.5.3 on ubuntu?12:59
Fuchswiq: what version of ubuntu and does it have to be _exactly_ this version?13:00
Fuchsbecause chances are that on recent ubuntu versions there is a newer one installed, and a downgrade might not be the greatest idea ever13:00
stevenmwiq, 18.04 is out tomorrow with 3.6.5 baked in13:00
wiqCan be greater or equal to 3.5.3. I am using ubuntu 16.10. Fuchs13:01
blackjackfsstevenm, nope. Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics.13:01
blackjackfsioria, I had the vendor line to fix an issue that I can't recall right now, but I'll try it and get back to you.13:02
stevenmyeah thats in the intel hd family13:02
blackjackfsdidn't know.13:02
Fuchswiq: then you either have to use a ppa at your own risk or update to 18.04 once out, if it can wait a bit longer13:02
Fuchswiq: or of course compile and install from source, but that's likely to be more of a pain and more of a risk than a ppa13:03
wiqNow, I have installed python 3.6 with ppa but not able to install something with pip to it. Fuchs13:04
Fuchsyou have to use a corresponding pip313:04
Fuchschances are that the ppa has a package for that, then you need to use that13:04
Fuchspip quite likely points  1) at python2  2) the python installed by ubuntu13:04
andreycizovdepending on how you use python, I would suggest installing the packager-maintained version and then immediately creating a venv for pyX13:05
andreycizovit solves all of the issues of pip namespacing and quite frankly - that's the way they expect you to use it13:06
stevenmhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/162535/why-does-switching-to-the-tty-give-me-a-blank-screen13:07
stevenmblackjackfs, work?13:10
blackjackfsstevenm, yep13:11
blackjackfsioria, It worked man. Thanks!13:11
ioriablackjackfs,  ok, no prob13:11
blackjackfsstevenm, you sure you don't have a problem like I did?13:12
stevenmioria, i've got a different issue then - no acpi_backlight=vendor in my grub conf13:12
stevenmi was gonna try...13:13
stevenmecho GRUB_GFXMODE=auto | sudo tee -a /etc/default/grub; sudo update-grub13:13
stevenmbut i won't be able to reboot for ages13:13
zteamHi! just a question: can anybody else here with Ubuntu 17.10 just access there desktop folders, by just double-click them from the desktop? (if I try right from the desktop it won't work, but from nautilus it works completly  as expected) plese test if this works for you and let me know please13:15
Noruxzteam: what do you mean13:17
SimonNLzteam: have you checked the command in the launcher13:19
zteamNorux, if I have a folder on the desktop dasboard and try to doubleclick on it from the dashboard, it won't open, but If I open the same folder from nautilus it opens fine :-)13:20
Noruxzteam: https://askubuntu.com/questions/984153/cant-open-desktop-folders-by-double-clicking-on-ubuntu-17-1013:21
zteamSimonNL, where do I do that?13:21
SimonNLright click check it's settings13:22
nostroraHello! Ubuntu 18.04 is already ready ?13:23
zteamNorux, I checked show desktop icons in gnome-tweak tool, and my icons is visible, but not usuable13:23
brainwash!isitout13:24
ubottuNot yet!13:24
pragmaticenigmanostrora: No13:24
nostrorapragmaticenigma: do we know the release date ? approximaly ?13:24
zteamSimonNL, sorry but I'm not getting it?13:24
brainwash!18.0413:24
ubottuUbuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+113:24
pragmaticenigmazteam: read through this support thread and see if it helps your issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/984153/cant-open-desktop-folders-by-double-clicking-on-ubuntu-17-1013:25
lapagaummm...if you are updated and do cat /etc/lsb-release it will no longer show development branch13:25
SimonNLzteam: sorry I see it doesn't show what I expected it to show13:26
pragmaticenigmanostrora: The offical release date of Ubuntu 18.04 is April 26th13:26
pragmaticenigmalapaga: They are likely preparing for the official release. Removal of a branch is just part of the process. The official release date has been published as April 26th.. that is all we know from an official standpoint13:28
nostroraI can read this : "Canonical is also working to speed up the boot-time of Ubuntu by using systemd’s features."13:28
nostroraDo you know which systemd's features are talking about ? source : https://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-release-date-features/13:29
zteamanyway, I get the following error from the system: cannot open folder on desktop, freedesktop bus not ready13:29
pragmaticenigmanostrora: Until April 26th, all 18.04 discussion and support is in /join #ubuntu+113:29
nostrorapragmaticenigma: ok ! Thanks o/13:30
vicente...13:32
mpeghmmn13:43
pragmaticenigma!ask | mpeg13:43
ubottumpeg: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:43
blackjackfs!patience | blackjackfs13:44
ubottublackjackfs, please see my private message13:44
mpegpragmaticenigma: i have not asked any question13:45
Gargravarrmpeg: indeed, you are being encouraged to do so :)13:46
pragmaticenigma!msgthebot | blackjackfs13:46
ubottublackjackfs: Please investigate me only with "/msg ubottu bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu search <pattern>"13:46
owner_i have installed 16.04.  I have a Rocketstor 5322 esata docking station.  Ubuntu can't seem to locate it. Is this compatible with Ubuntu 16.0413:51
owner_i have installed 16.04.  I have a Rocketstor 5322 esata docking station.  Ubuntu can't seem to locate it. Is this compatible with Ubuntu 16.0413:52
Gargravarr!patience | owner_13:53
ubottuowner_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/13:53
owner_if so how can I make it work13:53
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Gargravarrowner_: have you looked around for advice on eSATA in Ubuntu? i've done a quick search and there are a few articles and forum entries on various steps to troubleshoot13:57
owner_another question while were chatting.  can UBuntu recognize 6TB HDD13:57
Gargravarrthere is no practical limit to the size of HDD an Ubuntu machine can work with. note that for partitions greater than 2TB, you will need to use GPT13:58
owner_ok thanks13:58
Gargravarrowner_: one of the first results i got: https://superuser.com/questions/191997/getting-ubuntu-to-recogize-my-esata-drive13:58
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wiqHow to add geckodriver to PATH?14:20
wiqsolved ^14:22
pragmaticenigmawiq: Questions like that are really hard to understand. Please remember to be detailed so we can undrestand what you're attempting to do. Sometimes there are multiple answers, and to choose the best one needs a little more help14:23
stochastix2Is the amdgpu a proprietary driver, or a community one?14:25
stochastix2Looks like im running amdgpu and radeon  modules right now14:26
stochastix2Im just curious what kind of 3d support those modules have?14:27
stochastix2Is there maybe a little test I can run to bench it a little I wonder?14:27
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pragmaticenigmastochastix2: the best I can offer for assistance is the support page for AMD graphics: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver14:30
Gargravarraccording to that page, both amdgpu and radeon are open-source, so community not proprietary14:30
pragmaticenigmaAMD has stopped development on their proprietary drivers (if I recall correctly) and made significant contributions to the OpenSource community for driver support14:31
Gargravarrpragmaticenigma: gauntlet has been thrown to nVidia, we hope :)14:32
roryif I "wget example.com/foo" which returns 302 found for example.com/bar the file gets saved as "foo", how can I make it get saved as "bar" ?14:32
roryit doesn't have to be wget even, I just want to save the file with the final filename after a chain of redirects14:32
pragmaticenigmarory: "man wget" will tell you that you want to use the -O (capitol o) option14:32
rorythat makes me specify a name14:32
Gargravarrrory: i think curl -O handles 302's correctly14:32
roryI don't know the name14:33
pragmaticenigmarory: you can name it anything you like14:33
roryI want it to be named bar14:33
arthar360Hi, I am on Ubuntu 16.04 with dotnet inside a docker container. There is another container with nginx which acts as api and is exposed to the internet. I have enabled http to https redirection in this container by using "return 301 https://$host$request_uri" which works file. The problem arises whrn dotnet needs to process some events. The events are not fired properly and I get logs which say "Error while handl14:33
arthar360ing Server Events message: An error occurred while sending the request. SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK -    at ServiceStack.AsyncServiceClient.<SendWebRequestAsync>d__134`1.MoveNext()". When I disable auto redirection, Everything works fine (on https). But I have to type https manually. I am quiet sure its a problem with nginx redirection. Any help would be appreciated14:33
rorybecause the server gave a 302 found to example.com/bar14:33
arthar360fine*14:33
roryif the server gave 302 found to example.com/something_else I would want it to be saved as something_else, but I don't know the name ahead of time14:33
pragmaticenigmarory: wget -O /local/path/to/bar "www.example.com/foo"14:34
roryGargravarr: I'll look into it14:34
roryno pragmaticenigma you miss my point - I don't know what the server is going to redirect to14:34
roryso I can't put a custom filename14:34
roryah found it - --trust-server-names in man wget14:35
pragmaticenigmarory: It sounds like you might need to look into a different tool14:35
rorymissed it :)14:35
pragmaticenigmarory: there ya go!14:35
wlan2rory, I was typing it.14:35
Gargravarrrory: forgiveable, sometimes it's difficult to know what the developer would name something as when looking through the man pages :)14:36
wlan2You said it first because I took the time to check it was the correct option for you.14:36
vmenezesI have few servers running on "Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS" and some on  "Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS"? How can I update all to "Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS"?14:36
Gargravarrvmenezes: i assume you mean 16.0.4?14:37
Gargravarrguh, 16.04.414:37
vmenezesyeah14:37
vmenezesOops14:37
pragmaticenigmavmenezes: "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade"14:37
Gargravarrthe Ubuntu version is updated as part of 'base-files'. the easiest option is to run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on each one14:37
stochastix2pragmaticenigma:  Thanks for the link, ill check it out.14:38
Gargravarrout of curiosity, how many subversions does an LTS release generally get to by the time it's EOL'd?14:39
pragmaticenigmaGargravarr: it varies14:39
Gargravarrlike macOS :)14:40
pragmaticenigmaThe dot releases are rollups, they are indicators of items moving into to the main repository instead of the updates14:40
pragmaticenigmaI'm unsure on the criteria used. I would guess it's the amount of updates one would have to download after a fresh install reaching a specific threshold14:41
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wlan2I think they make one iso for each subrelease?14:43
vmenezesJust confirming, if I wait until next week "apt dist-update" may instead get me updated to Ubuntu 18.04 right?14:43
wlan2vmenezes: I don't think so.14:43
wlan2You'd have to do-release-upgrade14:43
roryactually the .3 .4 patch versions don't really mean anything for an already-installed system. They are used to create new installation media containing all the updates since the first release14:43
roryso if you install 16.04 and it's up to date, then 18.04.1 comes out, you are essentially already on 18.04.114:44
roryerr 16.04.114:44
roryyou get my point14:44
pragmaticenigmavmenezes: no, 18.04 will not arrive via dist-upgrade commands14:44
rorydist-upgrade is terribly named imo lol14:44
vmenezesoh, got it! thanks wlan2 and pragmaticenigma14:44
Gargravarrrory: dates from Debian where you'd switch your APT sources to the next release and then 'dist-upgrade' everything14:45
Gargravarrdon't deny it's a poor name when it basically amounts to 'update everything, even back-held packages'14:45
wlan2rory: It's not.14:45
wlan2That naming more than "terrible" is "legacy"14:46
Gargravarrwlan2: in fairness, 'legacy' almost everywhere is synonymous with 'terrible' ;)14:46
pragmaticenigmarory: upgrade does not remove any packages or install any new packages. Which is why it doesn't install new kernel updates. dist-upgrade allows packages to be removed and added to complete the update14:46
wlan2Gargravarr: I said "more", not "instead"14:47
Gargravarrpragmaticenigma: i actually hadn't noticed it does removals too. learn something new every day14:48
wlan2It's called dist-upgrade because it can be used to upgrade your distro. You'd need to edit the sources.list first.14:48
pragmaticenigmaGargravarr: https://askubuntu.com/a/22621314:48
Gargravarr"New versions of14:49
Gargravarr    currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without14:49
Gargravarr    changing the install status of another package will be left at14:49
roryyeah but to the uninitiated, "dist-upgrade" would do what do-release-upgrade actually does14:49
Gargravarr    their current version."14:49
roryI like apt's new terminology "full-upgrade"14:49
Gargravarroops, sorry :) that explains why 'upgrade' omits kernel upgrades by default14:49
roryThis confusion comes up all the time14:49
roryWe should advise people to use "apt" commands instead of "apt-get" it's been available for years14:49
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stochastix2Is virtualbox in backports?14:50
stochastix2Actually I think I made no sense.14:51
stochastix2Just trying to figure out what repo virtualbox is in.14:52
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EriC^^!info virtualbox14:52
ubottuvirtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu1.17.10.2 (artful), package size 15975 kB, installed size 72759 kB14:52
EriC^^stochastix2: multiverse14:53
wlan2Goodbye.14:54
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pragmaticenigmaGargravarr: just missed getting muted by the moderator bot... carefully when pasting text like that14:59
odezhi, after upgrading to ubuntu 18.04 i got a minute delay in showing the login screen. anyone heard of this issue?   (X, gdm3, nvidia)14:59
pragmaticenigmaodez: 18.04 support is available in #ubuntu+115:00
vltodez: Might be a "resume from" device the initramfs is waiting for.15:00
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Gargravarrpragmaticenigma: duly noted, i usually paste into a text editor first :$15:02
mitserHI15:05
pragmaticenigmaHello mitser , do you have an Ubuntu support question?15:05
mitserHOW CAN I DO CHAT WITH OTHERS?15:06
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Randolfmitser:  What type of chat?15:06
mitserJUST CHAT15:07
Randolfmitser:  You're on IRC now, and there are many channels to choose from.  If you're wondering about IRC chat, then you can ask those general questions in the official help channel:  /join #help15:07
Randolfmitser:  This channel is specifically focused on the Ubuntu Linux Operating System.15:07
ChocoboHey folks, found someone using your logo the other day:  https://imgur.com/a/0BMaXft15:07
EriC^mitser: /join #ubuntu-offtopic or /join #chat15:07
RandolfChocobo:  Oh, that's interesting.15:08
u0_a152hello15:08
mitserOK15:08
ChocoboRandolf: I thought so.  They _did_ do a color change and embossed the "Circle of Friends" to make it look super corny.15:08
mitserTHANK YOU15:09
pragmaticenigmaChocobo: If you feel it's a trademark infringement, the appropriate place is to inform Canonical directly. https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/intellectual-property-policy15:10
pragmaticenigmaChocobo: Official trademarks of the ubuntu logo appear to be for the circle of friend in white with a solid orange background15:10
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Randolfpragmaticenigma:  With Registered Trademarks (at least in Canada) it is possible to register a mark with specific colours, but generally people don't specify colours because then the shape gets registered incidental to which colours are used.15:12
mitser?15:12
wlxhi15:17
wlxevery one15:18
RobertPlummerHey guys, I know you do a lot of hard work, and there is a ton of stuff not related to ubuntu, but I wanted to give a shout out to you.  I've been running ubuntu 17 on my Lenovo Yoga 3 11".15:18
RobertPlummerI hated it.15:18
RobertPlummerThen I tried 18.15:18
RobertPlummerNow it is one of my favorite devices ever.15:18
wlxwhy are you like ubuntu15:18
RobertPlummerYou guys have done a fantastic job putting your heart and sole into this release, and one day before it goes, it is by-far the best ubuntu I've ever used.15:18
RobertPlummersoul.15:18
pragmaticenigma!ot | wlx15:18
ubottuwlx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:18
wlxok15:19
RobertPlummerGood job guys making an operating system that is industrial strength, yet user friendly and ready.15:19
Randolfpragmaticenigma:  It appears that there may indeed be a violation, unless permission was granted, but based on the strictness and long-winded specificity of how the "Circle of Friends" mark can be used I'm inclined to guess that it probably isn't authorized, particularly since "changing the colours"15:20
pragmaticenigmaRandolf: I'm not a representative of Canonical and not a lawyer, please discontinue this topic15:20
Randolfis forbidden:  https://design.ubuntu.com/brand/ubuntu-logo/?_ga=2.224065369.337520970.1524669292-330894386.152080102115:20
Randolfpragmaticenigma:  Okay.15:21
tdathe logo is three people standing in a circle holding hands?15:21
nicomachusRandolf: this is the wrong channel for that. try emailing canonical, they aren't on IRC15:26
mitsermitser:15:28
mitserfile:///home/mitser/Desktop/universal-mind-quantum-power-1000x500.jpg15:29
GREEK_someone for chats?15:30
Gargravarr!ot | GREEK_15:31
ubottuGREEK_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:31
Bob_DoleDoes anyone know where I can check the CPU-NB speed of old AMD FX series (zambezi, vishera) in the CLI? /proc/cpuinfo doesn't seem to have it.15:34
Bob_Doleand googling is only giving me overclocking tips.15:35
GargravarrBob_Dole: try http://products.amd.com/en-us/search15:36
pragmaticenigmaBob_Dole: I'm not aware of a way to look up clock speeds for GPUs. To gather that information usually requires proprietary software provided by the manufacture to access15:36
Gargravarrbest place to get that sort of information is direct from the vendor15:37
Bob_DoleGargravarr, the default for it is 2200mhz I believe but some mobos set 2000mhz, so I want to check that15:37
Bob_Dolepragmaticenigma, cpu. AM3+ from 2012 before Zen launched15:37
ioriaBob_Dole, lscpu | grep MHz15:38
GargravarrBob_Dole: tried lscpu? that should give you the current clock speed, but beware the frequency scaling may be in effect to save power15:38
pragmaticenigmaBob_Dole: that information would be in the documenation from the manufacturer.15:38
pragmaticenigmaioria: that only works fro CPUs not GPUs15:38
mar77iI have this worry where I have openssl 1.0.2g on ubuntu and 1.1.0h on archlinux, with the "same" decryption commands (openssl enc -d -aes-256-cbc etc) get valid output data on 1.0.2g but I get an error message (bad decrypt: 140554578944448:error:06065064:digital envelope routines:EVP_DecryptFinal_ex:bad decrypt:crypto/evp/evp_enc.c:536:) on archlinux. now I have two questions:15:38
ioriapragmaticenigma, it is a cpu15:39
Bob_Dolepragmaticenigma, it's not a gpu, the FX series is cpus15:39
Gargravarrpragmaticenigma: he's talking about a CPU15:39
pragmaticenigmaoh15:39
mar77i1. whether the lack of ineroperability in this case is a bug is probably more something for #openssl, I guess, but maybe someone here can answer this?15:39
ioriabut yes, there are fx amd video cards15:39
pragmaticenigmasorry, several previous questions were for AMD GPUs... guess I was hung up on that15:39
mar77i2. what happens if ubuntu ubgrades to openssl 1.1 in the coming years. will I no longer be able to access my data?15:40
pragmaticenigmamar77i: I would ask in #openssl ... they're going to be more familiar with what would cause that15:40
Bob_Doleioria, I'll try that but CPU-NB is the internal northbridge speed, affects memory controller and l3 cache. (as AM3+ chips have a CPU-NB and chipset NB..)15:40
ioriaBob_Dole,  you wanna  know max speed , right ? or .... ?15:41
Gargravarrmar77i: 2. Ubuntu, particularly LTS, tries not to introduce breaking changes. OpenSSL releases are very slow and methodical to further prevent this. they have multiple releases in parallel in active support15:41
Bob_Dolethe CPU-NB should stay at a constant speed15:41
Bob_Doleit's not the core-clock speed15:41
GargravarrBob_Dole: that sort of information, you might be able to find in the BIOS15:41
Gargravarror even via dmidecode15:41
Gargravarrthe OS is not really engineered to poke around in the CPU internals15:42
mar77iGargravarr: does this count across lts releases, too?15:45
mar77ithe one I have here seems to be two years old already, so15:45
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Bob_DoleGargravarr, well, I was just hoping for something as easy as /proc/cpuinfo, but thank you. I may want stuff from dmidecode anyways on this board. (I'm looking for this because I have 2 other AM3+ boards and one has a BIOS that sets the wrong, too-slow CPU-NB and requires manually setting it to AMD's specs.)15:47
Gargravarrmar77i: LTS is supported for 5 years. your current release isn't even halfway through its life yet15:48
mar77ioh wow. oh wow, I figured it out.15:52
mar77ihttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/34304570/how-to-resolve-the-evp-decryptfinal-ex-bad-decrypt-during-file-decryption suggests to use -md md5 (because this was ditched as a no longer sensible default in openssl 1.1). To still have it available is pretty great, though.15:53
Gargravarrmar77i: always a good feeling when you figure something out for yourself, huh? :D15:53
mar77ioh well, I'm not quite there yet, because I had to seriously consider that real customers' data was gone for at least a part of the afternoon.15:53
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_UsUrPeR_hey all. I'm having some problems compiling a kernel I just cloned from git16:06
_UsUrPeR_specifically this git: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/unstable.git/16:06
_UsUrPeR_error is showing ./scripts/ubuntu-retpoline-extract-one: No such file or directory16:06
_UsUrPeR_full build make-kpgk verbose output is here: https://paste.ee/p/erWzI16:07
pragmaticenigma_UsUrPeR_: we aren't able to support compiling kernels from source. Is there a particular reason you are trying to compile kernel code on your own?16:07
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_UsUrPeR_pragmaticenigma, yeah. I'm trying to work on a kernel bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10615916:08
ubottuFreedesktop bug 106159 in DRM/AMDgpu "When connecting or disconnecting a displayport to a DP hub with 4.16.2+ kernel, hard freeze with frozen video output" [Normal,New]16:08
pragmaticenigma_UsUrPeR_: I would recommend checking out #linux or #kernel16:08
_UsUrPeR_pragmaticenigma, specifically for amdgpu.dc issues I'm experiencing. What do you mean can't support? Who can?16:08
Gargravarr_UsUrPeR_: best bet is to ask the guys in #ubuntu-kernel16:08
_UsUrPeR_thanks16:08
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pragmaticenigma_UsUrPeR_: The support channel is meant for supporting Ubuntu as it is provided through the installation media and Package repositories. Where things have documentation we can reference in order to help each other. Self compiled applications fall out of scope as different steps could be taken to compile the code as well as different features turned on and off. It because too difficult to generically troubleshoot16:12
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antonmHi16:22
diezel_mobileo/16:23
kostkonantonm, hi16:23
zambawhat's going on here: https://pastebin.com/V9DRRCUz16:54
zambalocale -a outputs nb_NO.utf8, but when trying to set it using LC_TIME=nb_NO.utf8 returns -bash: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (nb_NO.utf8)16:55
zambawhat's going on here?16:55
Donald_ET3So, I'm thinking about writing my own little file encryption program, and I was thinking it would be really elegant to just type the password as a command line option, but I've heard that it is possible for another user on a Unix system to view the entire command that another user is running at the moment, including the command options. Is that true?16:58
andregrayhi16:58
tdayes. also shell history16:58
nexus7Hi, to fix my laptop I need to access this channel from my phone, what is a good IRC client for Android?17:01
SlidingHornnexus7: androirc17:02
tdai think androirc is popular17:02
Donald_ET3I use Yaaic17:02
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king_crimsonYaaic is open source, but both clients seem abandoned. Something like 3~5 years without development activity. https://github.com/pocmo/Yaaic17:05
ca_cabotagehey all, i've seen in a few places on the internet that 16.04 LTS can be upgraded to 18.04 LTS without breaking things - is this true? I was planning on a clean install to go from 16.04 to 18.04 tomorrow, but if you really can seamlessly upgrade from one LTS to the next I'd much prefer not to waste my time17:05
naccca_cabotage: yes, it will be offered once 18.04.1 is out (3 months)17:05
bn_workOn Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ('trusty'), does anyone know what the various symbols (-, +, ?) mean when doing `service --status-all`?  the man page for `service` doesn't really explain... Does `-` = not enable to start on boot, `+` = enabled to start on boot, `?` = unknown (not sure why it'd be unknown)17:06
bn_work?17:06
bn_works/not enable/not enabled/17:06
ca_cabotagenacc: so seamless upgrade is a .1 release on LTS? should i wait for .1 instead of just clean installing tomorrow?17:07
nexus7SlidingHorn: It looks like Androirc can not authenticate my nickname.17:07
SlidingHornnexus7: It can...you're better off not using the option in the settings and just doing it manually though17:08
naccca_cabotage: up to you17:08
nexus7Donald_ET3: Yaaic, is good, but replying to people too hard.17:08
Donald_ET3oh17:09
Egyptianhi - i am trying to set my default kernel to the 2nd kernel by using grub-set-default 1 but it doesnt work .. recognizing that i have submenus i tried grub-set-default "0>1" too . i did update-grub before rebooting and both numbers do not work.. help pls17:13
naccEgyptian: use the title, not the number, maybe17:14
Egyptiannacc title?17:14
naccLike "Advanced boot options> ..."17:15
jackhum_can anyone have any idea of how to change the name of my webcam device?17:15
nacci'm not sure 0>1 works, tbh17:15
jackhum_my laptop webcam device is easycamera , how can i change to something helloworld17:16
naccjackhum_: why would you?17:16
Egyptiannacc .. i got it from https://askubuntu.com/questions/608477/how-to-change-the-default-grub-option-in-ubuntu-14-0417:16
GargravarrDonald_ET3: yes, anyone with the privilege to list processes (most users) can see the command string while it's running17:17
Gargravarrin addition, never roll your own crypto, except as an academic exercise :)17:17
naccEgyptian: did you update the /etc/default/grub to have GRUB_DEFAULT=saved ?17:17
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jackhum_nacc, i want to change it17:17
naccjackhum_: you can use a udev rule, i guess, but just changes the /dev node, not the name of the device reported by the device17:18
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Egyptiannacc: what does that do ?17:19
Guest49516anyone can hel me17:19
naccEgyptian: it's what makes grub-set-default do anything, read `man grub-set-default`17:19
jackhum_nacc, can you link me some web page or something , which explain more17:19
ads20000Guest49516: just ask your question :)17:19
naccjackhum_: i don't have one handy. Are you trying to change the string reported by lspci or something?17:19
Egyptiani must have missed it .. ok thanks17:19
SlidingHorn!ask | Guest49516 (also, change your nick to something more unique so it's easier to help you)17:20
ubottuGuest49516 (also, change your nick to something more unique so it's easier to help you): Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:20
Donald_ET3Gargravarr: Well, I was thinking of writing an implementation of RC6. I presume "roll your own crypto" means designing your own algorithm, not writing your own implementation of a proven algorithm, right? Especially if the test vectors match.17:20
GargravarrDonald_ET3: i meant, only use it to learn about crypto. don't use it to encrypt anything important :)17:20
Guest49516i will try to learn a hack web17:20
Egyptianpatience is song17:20
Donald_ET3hmmm17:21
jackhum_nacc, EasyCamera (usb-0000:00:14.0-4):17:22
jackhum_nacc, v4l2-ctl --list-devices ,  i am using this command to list webcam attached17:22
jackhum_nacc, i want to change name of EasyCamera to some variable xyz17:23
jnewti can't use my nfs share.  i think it's because my uid / gid ended up different on the client than on the server.   i can't seem to find an easy way to change my user's uid & gid on the client to match.17:23
naccjackhum_: yeah, that's not really something you do17:24
naccjackhum_: nor is it worht it17:24
jackhum_nacc, lol, why dont we do this17:24
naccjackhum_: beucase that string comes from the hardware device17:24
jnewtif i could even manage to change it, it'd probably mess up all my local file permissions right?17:25
jackhum_nacc, i am using this software that is webcamstudio , and it create a sort of spoof video cam for me , i wanna change its name17:25
naccjackhum_: i don't know about it17:25
naccjnewt: it's an nfs mount option, iirc17:25
jackhum_nacc, okay :(17:25
bn_workanyone?17:27
jnewtnacc, i have the man page up for nfs & exports for my bsd system.  are you referring to the maproot / mapall stuff?   i don't understand those at all.17:28
naccbn_work: it's in `man service` here17:28
bn_worknacc: what ver?17:29
naccbn_work: i'm on 18.0417:30
bn_worknacc:  I have `0.91-ubuntu1`17:30
naccbn_work: let me pastebin17:30
bn_worknacc: thanks!17:30
naccbn_work: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6wxCbmshHT/17:30
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bn_worknacc:  thanks, that's what I suspected :/  I guess the 2nd answer to this question is a bit misleading then:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/218/command-to-list-services-that-start-on-startup17:32
naccjnewt: something like this: https://serverfault.com/questions/514118/mapping-uid-and-gid-of-local-user-to-the-mounted-nfs-share17:32
naccjnewt: i haven't used nfs in a long time17:32
sky887!isitoutyet17:33
ubottuNot yet!17:33
bn_worknacc:  how do you check to see if a service is enabled to run on boot, besides `ls`-ing /etc/rc[0-6].d/S*`?17:35
naccbn_work: i do not know for sure17:36
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maszloI am looking to troubleshoot dns.. specifically what dns is pulled from dhcp lease.. where is my best place to look?17:52
maszlowhen i dont specify a dns, nslook reports that its looking up from 127.0.0.53  Which does not seem correct17:53
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BluesKajmaszlo, in your router firmware for starters, but 127.0.0.53 is correct atm17:54
maszloBluesKaj: i know what my dhcp server should be handing out.  but an not seeing that in my ubuntu system and its not resolving local servers corrrectly17:55
maszlowhich is why i am asking17:55
naccmaszlo: 127.0.0.53 is sytemd-resolved17:55
nacc*systemd-resolved, running locally17:56
maszlowhere are its sources then?17:56
naccmaszlo: depends on your network, but you can run `systemd-resolve --status` iirc17:56
ash_workdo you really need a tool to disable effects on unity?17:58
ash_worklike there isn't just a conf file? or even a gui?17:58
naccash_work: unity tweak or something?17:58
ash_worknacc: yes, that's what I've read17:59
ash_workbut I feel like, wtf, really?17:59
maszlonacc: weird because it shows the proper dns from that command but its not resolving correctly17:59
naccmaszlo: you can then use systemd-resolve to see how it resolves addresses17:59
naccash_work: the default is unity with effects. If you want to chagne it, you use the tweak tool; same is true on gnome, basically (although not with effects by default)18:00
maszlonacc: can i turn off the local dns so it just uses the dns servers i built?18:00
naccmaszlo: yes, i think you can, but it's not 'local dns', it's dns forwarded to other things18:00
naccmaszlo: in any case, you can, you can choose to not use systemd-resolved, you can do whatever you want18:00
maszlonacc: i thought it was similar to dnsmasq18:01
maszlosort of like a local cache18:01
naccmaszlo: not really, and dnsmasq is way more than a cache18:01
YounderSo gnome desktop is the only option in 18.04?18:01
BluesKajmaszlo, you can set DNS in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf iirc18:01
naccYounder: well, in 'ubuntu' yes. You can install unity after, or you can install kubuntu, xubuntu, etc.18:02
Youndernacc, right thx18:02
gogetanacc, well not unity its dead18:03
naccgogeta: no it's not, it's just in universe18:03
naccgogeta: unity7; unity8 is dead, yes18:03
YounderLike we say in Lisp, it's not dead it just smells funny18:03
naccalthough i believe it was forked to yunit or whatever18:04
gogetaYounder, thers lots of ubuntu spinoffs with diffrent window managers kubuntu xubuntu ubuntu budgie lubuntu etc18:04
sudormrfok back with the cron job thing18:05
sudormrfit still isn't actually doing what it should18:05
sudormrfit's a simple job18:05
Youndergogeta, cinamon18:05
ash_workwhy do people like terminator?18:05
gogetaYounder, yup18:05
ash_workI'm clearly missing something18:05
uplimesome people just like different things?18:06
sudormrfthis is the script18:06
sudormrfhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BFRkH984kn/18:06
naccash_work: perhaps better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic18:06
ash_worknacc: thanks18:06
sudormrfand this is the crontab for root: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HnGdnWyQst/18:07
sudormrfsyslog shows it tried to kick off the job18:07
gogetauplime, kinda the point of linux choice lol18:07
sudormrfbut nmap isn't running and nmap log files (-oA) aren't dumped in to the correct folder18:07
naccsudormrf: does it work when you run it by hand?18:08
naccsudormrf: also you should use an absolute path to 'date'18:08
sudormrfnacc, yes18:08
sudormrfahhh18:08
sudormrfhmm18:08
naccsudormrf: note that a cron environment is very limited18:08
naccsudormrf: espeically PATH and other thing syou assume work normally18:08
sudormrfyeah18:09
maszlonacc: disabling systemd resolved did work for me.  thanks18:10
tdaauditors: "I want a complete map of the network showing all devices, servers, ports, services, and toasters" also auditors, looking at output of nmap: "....dafuq is this?"18:11
SlidingHorntda: watch the language please :)18:11
tdasorry, meant that for another room18:12
almaHey18:17
sudormrfnacc, even setting the path to date doesn't work.18:22
sudormrfkind of scratching my head about this one18:22
sudormrfkick off the script manually, everything works (with hardcoded paths), cron says it is executing the script, but not dumping logs. I suppose I should try and generate an error log18:23
sudormrfsee if that will help18:23
mick_hello18:24
antonmHello mick_18:24
mick_what am i doing here^18:25
armirandaSeems like the most common cause of problems like that (works fine on the command line, fails from cron) are missing some env variable, and/or PATH not being set right. But trying to get some sort of log should probably be the next move.18:25
pikapikaHi18:27
pikapikaIs there any program that can selectively mirror packages from the official repository? apt-mirror seems to be all or nothing based on what is present in sources.list18:28
pragmaticenigmasudormrf: To troubleshoot from cron, I usually add " > /home/{user}/job.log 2>&1" which will save the output to a file in your home directory18:28
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sudormrfpragmaticenigma, yeah, just did that18:28
sudormrfand the results are interesting18:28
pikapikaThe total download is huge. Most of them I probably wont even need. So is there something which I can use like: progname package1 package2 ... packageN and it will store local repo of these and all their dependencies?18:29
sudormrf"/bin/sh: 1: /root/scripts/doot.sh: not found"18:29
sudormrfeven though it is there18:29
sudormrfhmm18:29
pragmaticenigmasudormrf: one thought is environmental differences... cron does not initialize the same environment as would happen when your launching from your user (or even root)18:29
pikapikaEven better if it can download category wise according to this page: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/18:29
sudormrfpragmaticenigma, yes, I am aware18:30
naccsudormrf: how are you running it manually?18:32
naccsudormrf: also, is the script executable?18:32
pragmaticenigmapikapika: you might want to look into apt cacher18:32
sudormrfnacc, ./doot.sh, yes.18:33
naccsudormrf: well that's not how cron executes it18:34
naccsudormrf: you need to test the exact same command18:34
naccsudormrf: are you in /root/scripts when you do that?18:34
sudormrfyes18:34
sudormrfhmm18:34
sudormrfok18:34
pragmaticenigmaIs the command in cron /root/scripts/doot.sh ... and not ./doot.sh18:34
tdadoesn't cron mail you the output of the script?18:35
sudormrfyes, just tried it18:35
pikapikapragmaticenigma, will it only work for packages I newly installed after setting it up?18:35
sudormrffailed18:35
sudormrfok18:35
nacctda: not by default, iirc18:35
nacctda: at least, not in this case, where it fails to run18:35
naccsudormrf: ok, so you know what to debug :)18:35
pragmaticenigmapikapika: I don't know, you will need to read the documentation to find out if it suits your needs18:35
sudormrfnacc, yeah, looking now where the "default" folder is18:35
sudormrfnacc, I changed the crontab to "sh /root/scans/doot.sh" it said "sh: 0: Can't open /root/scripts/doot.sh", when I manually type "sh /root/scans/doot.sh" it works18:37
naccsudormrf: uh, those are rather different paths.18:37
sudormrfahhh18:37
sudormrfyes18:37
nacc /root/scripts and /root/scans18:37
sudormrfI'm stupid :P18:37
sudormrfyea18:37
sudormrfthat's it18:37
naccPEBKAC? :)18:37
sudormrfahah18:37
pikapikapragmaticenigma, apt cacher seems like a solution to a potential problem I have been worrying about anyways. Thanks18:37
sudormrfnacc, yeah it was a PEBKAC. it's working now. thanks :D18:39
naccsudormrf: np :)18:42
ubuntu_Hi. I have activated ubuntu app indicators18:43
ubuntu_But for example hexchat's tray icon does not show up18:43
ubuntu_is there something else to activate?18:44
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plooverHello18:52
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plooverI had a bit of a question, since I'm new to Ubuntu and I couldn't find anything with an internet search18:53
plooverI am getting errors from apt after removing a package using dpkg, compiling the package I needed from source and now apt is giving me a dependency error18:54
plooverDoesn't let me install new packages nor upgrade my current ones.18:54
plooverAny ideas?18:54
leftyfbploover: what version of ubuntu?18:54
plooverUh18:54
plooverUbuntu Budgie18:55
plooverI know it's not for this channel18:55
tgm4883ploover: compiling like that is probably what caused it18:55
plooverBut this is more of a Debian question18:55
tgm4883ploover: that's fine for this channel18:55
plooverYeah but I have the package I need18:55
leftyfb!budgie18:55
ubottuUbuntu Budgie is a community !flavour of Ubuntu featuring the Budgie desktop. Its first official release is 17.04. As with all development versions, for questions involving Ubuntu Budgie 18.04 support, visit #ubuntu+1. Ubuntu Budgie 16.04 and 16.10 are not supported by the Ubuntu project. https://ubuntubudgie.org/18:55
plooverI want apt to leave me alone.18:55
leftyfbploover: cat /etc/issue18:55
plooverLemme get my laptop18:55
tgm4883ploover: The correct way to do that would have been to create a package for it and install that package18:56
plooverthe output is 'Ubuntu 18.04 LTS \n \1;18:56
plooverSorry, I come from Arch, I wasn't made aware18:56
plooverHow do I go about doing that?18:56
plooverThere are a lot of packages I want to use that are not in the official repos, so I would definitely appreciate the help18:57
tgm4883ploover: what packages?18:57
ioriaploover, you are new to Ubuntu and install a not - yet- release version ?18:57
plooveri3-gaps, alacritty, termite, there were some others as well18:57
plooverioria: well, I thought that Ubuntu was the begginer friendly Linux distro, coming from Arch I thought I could handle it18:58
plooverBut I have no experience with debian based distros18:58
leftyfbwhat's the point of a "GPU-accelerated terminal emulator"?18:58
plooverIt's fast.18:58
plooverAlso it's what I prefer18:58
leftyfbfast?18:58
plooverWell18:59
ioriaploover, i see ... well seems that 18.04 is supported now18:59
plooverIf you have the chance to try it out, try working within something like Gnome or Deepin terminals compared to something like urxvt or alacritty18:59
ioriaploover,  we need the apt error in a pastebinit18:59
plooverSure thing19:00
plooverWait I think I have an idea19:00
plooverI installed the i3 package group19:00
plooverAnd then changed the window manager19:00
plooverMaybe I should remove the group and manually install all of the packages19:00
tgm4883ploover: you should probably just post the error19:00
plooverWorking on it.19:01
plooverhttps://pastebin.com/aAz4CygU19:03
plooverHere you are.19:03
leftyfbploover: did you try sudo apt --fix-broken install?19:03
plooverYeah it overwrote i3-gaps with i3-wm19:03
leftyfbthen you have a conflict of supported packages with something you installed19:04
plooverThe i3 package group19:04
plooverI'm used to having a lot more control over my system so I didn't think it wouldn't let me just remove one package19:05
plooverMade me kind of upset19:05
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ioriaploover,  have you tried to purge i3* ?19:06
plooverNope19:06
plooverWhat does purge do?19:06
ioriaploover,  remove pkg and config files19:06
plooverI was under the impression it removes the package and all of the configuration files.19:06
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plooverActually you know what19:07
plooverI'm thinking Ubuntu just isn't for me19:07
plooverI'm gonna give Solus a try19:07
ioriaunbelievable19:07
leftyfbno .... please ... come back19:08
SlidingHorn*wonka meme*19:08
kostkon-1 user19:08
tgm4883ok now19:09
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jaga_ping19:18
jaga_guys anyone suggest me good websites for learning linux commands19:19
jaga_hello19:20
|RIC|hi19:20
jaga_bro are you pro in linux19:20
|RIC|libqt4-core libqt4-gui19:20
|RIC|I need to know how to install this packages on linux19:20
|RIC|ubuntu19:20
|RIC|jaga_ what are you looking for19:21
|RIC|linux commands?19:21
|RIC|you mean you want to play around on the terminal?19:21
jaga_i m looking for linux commands to improve my skills....19:21
|RIC|which dist are you on?19:22
jaga_absolutely you r right19:22
|RIC|have you installed it on your laptop?19:22
jaga_chennai19:22
jaga_chennai dist19:22
|RIC|is that some city in china?19:22
jaga_nope its in india19:22
leftyfb|RIC|: what version of ubuntu are you running?19:23
|RIC|is that where you are from?19:23
|RIC|1719:23
|RIC|v1719:23
jaga_1619:23
leftyfb|RIC|: cat /etc/issue19:23
|RIC|downloaded it yesterday19:23
jaga_version 1619:23
leftyfbThere is no version 16 or 1719:23
jaga_16.0419:24
|RIC|17.1019:24
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jaga_what19:24
|RIC|leftyfb is a bit picky about what lays behind the decimal point19:25
|RIC|jaga_ did you install it on your laptop by yourself?19:25
SlidingHornjaga_ & |RIC| do either of you have an ubuntu support question?19:25
jaga_yes RIC i have installed by myself19:26
leftyfb|RIC|: the numbers in the version make a big difference19:26
leftyfb|RIC|: each releases version number is based on the year and month it was released. It also tells us if that release is still supported.19:27
|RIC|jaga_ well done mate19:27
|RIC|https://techlog360.com/basic-ubuntu-commands-terminal-shortcuts-linux-beginner/19:27
|RIC|I suppose that this is to basic for you then19:27
jaga_thanks |ric|19:27
leftyfb|RIC|: Regardless, the packages you might be looking for are libqtgui4 and libqtcore4. But may I ask why you need those?19:27
|RIC|leftyfb ok fair enough, how so, refering to the major release is not enough for the purpose of our discussion?19:28
leftyfbit's not a major release19:28
leftyfb16.10 is not the latest version of a "16 major release"19:28
|RIC|leftyfb now you are my mate, please explain the versioning system of linux19:28
leftyfb16.10 means it was released in October of 201619:29
leftyfb17.04 means it was released in April of 201719:29
|RIC|ok19:29
leftyfb16.04 is supposed for another 3 years while 16.10 is completely unsupported19:29
Norux_leftyfb: Whaaattt... mind = blown19:30
|RIC|cool, had no idea this was the case, I used to have the full number as the major release and after the decimal for bug fixes which is how I though git workedaswell19:30
leftyfbhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases19:30
leftyfbhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS19:31
|RIC|is this only for Ubuntu?19:31
leftyfbyes19:31
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|RIC|OK19:31
|RIC|leftyfb libqtgui4 and libqtcore4. did I get the package names wrong?19:32
leftyfb|RIC|: yes, but why do you need those packages? Any package you install properly should pull down the necessary dependencies19:32
|RIC|I'm following a little tut on this one which wants me to install them19:33
leftyfbwhat are you trying to install?19:33
|RIC|Now we can install Qt:19:33
|RIC|sudo apt-get install libqt4-core libqt4-gui libqt4-dev19:33
leftyfbwhich tutorial?19:34
|RIC|https://www.quantstart.com/articles/Installing-a-Desktop-Algorithmic-Trading-Research-Environment-using-Ubuntu-Linux-and-Python19:34
|RIC|its towards the end of the page19:34
leftyfbThat tutorial is almost 5 years old. I wouldn't be surprised if it might not work19:35
|RIC|yep that is why I'm here asking the question19:36
leftyfbYou can try it though. If you haven't had any issues so far, you're almost done19:36
leftyfb|RIC|: try the package names I gave you19:36
Genora51Hello19:38
|RIC|leftyfb19:39
|RIC|how about this one19:40
|RIC|sudo apt-get install libzmq-dev19:40
ioria!info libzmq-dev19:40
ubottuPackage libzmq-dev does not exist in artful19:40
ioria!info libzmq3-dev19:40
ubottulibzmq3-dev (source: zeromq3): lightweight messaging kernel (development files). In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.1-4ubuntu1 (artful), package size 360 kB, installed size 1465 kB19:40
|RIC|by the way the package names you gave me worked !!! but was already installed :(19:40
|RIC|ioria what have we learned from ubottu his response?19:41
ioria|RIC|, meaning ?19:41
|RIC|Do I need to use another package name?19:43
ioria|RIC|,  if you are on 17.10 there is no libzmq-dev  ... the pkg available is libzmq3-dev19:43
|RIC|Do I need to add the three?19:43
|RIC|Got it thanks19:43
|RIC|installed as a charm19:44
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T7TT777TT7anyone know where are the packages located on the install iso? i have a friend who deleted their kernel by accident, trying to figure out how to get one back in /boot20:00
gogetaT7TT777TT7, you would need to chroot in and reinstall the kernel20:00
gogetaT7TT777TT7, its more then just throwing the package in20:00
T7TT777TT7do you know where the packages are located?20:01
EriC^^T7TT777TT7: /pool/something maybe20:01
T7TT777TT7i found a Packages.gz but it's only 7.7K20:01
EriC^^it might not have a linux package20:02
gogetaT7TT777TT7, as said you need to chroot into the system over the live cd20:02
gogetaT7TT777TT7, then install the kernel20:02
T7TT777TT7gogeta: ok but that doesn't answer my question20:02
gogetaT7TT777TT7, i literly told you how to fix it20:02
T7TT777TT7i don't know how to "install the kernel" the installer is unusable in qemu20:03
gogetaT7TT777TT7, once your in the chroot envirment sudo apt-get install linux-image20:03
T7TT777TT7i'll just keep looking this channel is obviously a waste of time20:03
T7TT777TT7thx anyway20:04
gogetaT7TT777TT7, you can just drop the package in thers dependicys and configs20:04
gogetacant20:04
T7TT777TT7i can't drop a kernel into /boot and reinstall grub or whatever ?20:05
Jay_DoggHi, anyone here using 18.04 in a language other than English? If so, could you check what gnome-logs does to your home folder. In my case (18.04 in Finnish), gnome-logs, when opened, creates new default folders (documents, pictures, music etc.) with names in English alongide the existing default folders translated into Finnish20:05
gogetaJay_Dogg, !fn20:05
gogetaJay_Dogg, well anyways yes there is non english channels20:06
kostkon!fi20:06
ubottuTämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)20:06
gogetaJay_Dogg, yea fi just looked it up lol20:07
T7TT777TT7i suppose it's all in /casper/filesystem.squashfs20:07
gogetaT7TT777TT7, hear is a guide on how to restore your kernel https://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels20:09
T7TT777TT7no wonder qemu is choking on all the decompression20:09
abdelraoufHello guys20:11
abdelraoufwhen'll the 18.04 released ? at 00:00 ?20:11
tda18:04?20:12
abdelraoufaha ?20:12
SlidingHornThere's no set time that I'm aware of20:13
tdame either. it's available when it's built and on the site/torrents20:13
abdelraoufokay but it's definitely will be available tomorrow not any day after ?20:14
kostkonabdelraouf, around afternoon20:14
tdai dont think its delayed if that's what you're asking20:14
kostkonabdelraouf, more likely20:14
abdelraoufokay thanks alot guys :)20:15
kostkon!party | abdelraouf20:15
ubottuabdelraouf: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !bionic release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/20:15
abdelraoufthanks man20:15
kostkonnp20:16
gogetaand all the repos will crash and the mirrors down20:16
gogetalike every lts20:16
gogetalol20:16
_KaszpiR_#care20:17
tdabittorrent20:17
nulliuswill 18.04 have flat icons20:24
gogetanullius, if you whant them20:25
ice9how to resize lxd storage pool?20:25
gogetanullius, its gnome 3 so you can change everything20:25
nulliusgogeta, cool thanks20:25
DaFooYou你好20:30
ash_workI copied in my ssh keys after a fresh install and I'm getting a password unlock prompt; I don't remember putting a pw on it and I tried all the variations I think ti could possibly be20:30
ash_workcould this be an error?20:30
tdauser error20:30
ash_workI read on some forums that this might be an error but they were pretty old20:30
pragmaticenigmaash_work: Have you tried the password from your previous install?20:30
ash_workpragmaticenigma: given what I've already said, I don't know what that means20:31
DeusExMaximumThe openbox chat seems deserted. I can't find a good tutorial for getting started with openbox. I used to use i3 but want a more aesthetic look out of Ubuntu.20:31
leftyfbash_work: is it prompting you for the passphrase of the private key or for the password of the remote user?20:31
ash_workleftyfb: private key20:31
gogetaDeusExMaximum, there is a openbox spinoff20:32
ash_workin a system dialogue20:32
DeusExMaximumSpinoff?20:32
leftyfbash_work: then that is 100% to do with you forgetting the passphrase of your private20:32
ash_workcrap20:32
pragmaticenigmaash_work: The password that is attached is likely the same password that was used where you copied the keys from20:32
ash_workpragmaticenigma: right, but like I said20:32
leftyfbash_work: you can manually test it with "ssh-add /location/to/private/key"20:33
gogetaDeusExMaximum, there used to be guess its gone20:33
SlidingHornDeusExMaximum: Check out the Arch wiki - their Openbox page is great20:33
ash_workoh wow20:33
ash_workI got an unprotected key warning20:33
leftyfbpermissions?20:34
ash_workyeah :\20:34
leftyfb:)20:34
leftyfbeasy fix20:34
leftyfband again, I was wrong :)20:34
DeusExMaximumSlidingHorn: thanks fam20:34
leftyfbash_work: future reference, a -v added to your ssh key would have told you about the permission issue20:35
leftyfber20:35
leftyfbadded to your ssh command20:35
SlidingHornDeusExMaximum: also, lubuntu/lxde uses openbox if I remember correctly if you want an official spin20:35
ash_workit was git clone20:35
gogetaDeusExMaximum, thers also a ubuntu fourm post https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235992620:35
leftyfbash_work: git doesn't set permissions on files20:35
gogetaDeusExMaximum, if you looking to jus have a light wm look at lubuntu20:36
DaFooYouquit20:37
ash_workleftyfb: I mean the "ssh command" was git clone20:38
leftyfbah20:38
ash_workanyway, yes it still prompts me20:38
ash_workdamn it20:38
ash_workwait20:38
ash_workit didn't give an error when I just press enter20:38
ash_workokay, so the prompt doesn't go away though when I just press enter20:39
ash_workthis maybe *is* a bug20:39
ash_workdoes anyone know how to solve this?20:40
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leftyfbash_work: did you unlock the key with ssh-add ?20:40
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ash_workleftyfb: I did `ssh-add <key>` ... it prompted for a pw, and I just pressed enter; then it just shows the PS20:41
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leftyfbthe PS?20:41
ash_workPS120:41
ash_workit does nothing20:41
leftyfbok20:41
ash_workno output20:41
leftyfbssh-add -l20:41
leftyfbdo you see your key listed there?20:41
ash_workI see something there, which is likely it20:42
ash_workI mean, I haven't created any new ones, so that's gotta be it20:42
leftyfbok20:42
ash_workI guess maybe logging out and in might get rid of the prompt?20:42
leftyfbnow try to ssh to something that has the public key for this private key20:42
ash_workbrb20:43
pi__hello20:44
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McGamerhow are you20:45
ash_work_also, the skype window always boots up at start up but is unresponsive20:45
McGameryou can go to your startup settings and remove it from the list20:46
ash_work_damn it; I can't really test direct ssh20:46
McGameryou can also install "htop" and close it from the terminal20:47
leftyfbash_work_: why not?20:48
geggamhow do i see user add and delete on ubuntu with systemd ?20:49
ash_work_well, it asks for a pw, and I assume the git conf is somehow enabling a no_password configuration for this user20:50
ash_work_(I don't have the git user password)20:50
ash_work_(the remote git user password)20:50
ash_work_is there a terminal command to automatically unlock when I log-in?20:54
Elysium3301Can't wait for tomorrow!!!20:58
iceiceicehi have a quick question21:02
iceiceiceat work we are using an ubuntu PPA: toolchain-r-test21:03
iceiceicehttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test21:03
iceiceicewe are installing gcc-5 from this PPA into our docker image21:03
iceiceicehowever, yesterday, gcc-5 was upreved from gcc-5.4 to gcc-5.521:03
T7TT777TT7what's tomorrow?21:03
iceiceiceis there any way that I can get an old package that used to be in the PPA?21:03
iceiceiceor it is definitely gone forever?21:04
T7TT777TT7iceiceice: does 5.5 break something?21:06
iceiceiceyes nvcc doesn't work with 5.5 yet21:07
iceiceicethe nvidia people need to release a new SDK or whatever21:07
iceiceiceall the cuda compilations fail21:07
ash_work_is there any reason to wait for bionic to land before installing it?21:10
T7TT777TT7oh a newbuntu is coming out tomorrow?21:10
tdai think someone mentioned an installer bug fix earlier21:10
miro__g21:10
ash_work_T7TT777TT7: the 28th I think21:12
ash_work_and I think I'm gonna see what happens when I try using a key with a passphrase I know on a new install21:19
ash_work_what are the odds I run into the same bug?21:19
ash_work_omg git clone is going so slow21:21
katnip26th tomorrow21:22
adarci installed 18.04 on my lap today, not waiting until tommorow. I like to live dangerously21:24
neutral_second:P21:25
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katnipit's pretty stable now21:26
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Davukihello22:24
Davuki...22:25
antonmHi22:25
DavukiWoah22:25
DavukiThis actually works Hehe22:25
Davukiwell goodbye22:27
Davukierrrrrrrrrrrrrr22:29
PetlessZuyHey, anyone in here? I think I royally screwed my directory.22:31
antonmPetlessZuy, how?22:31
Petlesszuy_Got disconnected... anyway, here's a screenshot of the error https://imgur.com/wUOV6F222:32
gogetaPetlessZuy, umm you must construct additional pylons22:33
Jordan_UPetlesszuy_: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list .22:34
Petlesszuy_Sure, gimme the second22:34
Petlesszuy_hmmm...22:35
Petlesszuy_It's literally just this sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install spotify-client22:35
Jordan_UPetlesszuy_: And it shouldn't be. Do you know how that text got in that file?22:36
Petlesszuy_I probably did it to be honset, I don't quite remember how as I haven't used this system in around a year.22:36
Petlesszuy_Here's the sources.list if you think it will help https://pastebin.com/NdxypvgH22:37
Jordan_UPetlesszuy_: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list22:37
Petlesszuy_Waiting on it, this is an old dual pentium system so it might take a moment22:39
vallaHi, I just upgraded a server to 16.04.4 from 14 and mysql-server would not install / upgrade. After doing '/etc/init.d/mysql stop' the installer continued and I could reboot but I can not get mysql-server to either start or install again after. apt install -f just gives error22:39
vallaRenaming removed key_buffer and myisam-recover options (if present)22:39
vallainitctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused22:39
vallaany pro tip?22:39
vallaseems like the rest of the upgrade process worked22:40
Jordan_Uvalla: Have you rebooted since upgrading? Nothing should be trying to access upstart as upstart is no longer used in 16.04.22:40
vallaJordan_U: yeah I rebooted at least once22:40
vallaI think I have some conflicts for sure22:41
Jordan_Uvalla: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".22:41
Jordan_Uvalla: Actually wait, before you do that...22:41
coolchrisshould a driver compile be the same on bionic beaver and blacklisting done the same way as before?22:41
Jordan_Uvalla: How did you upgrade?22:42
vallajust do-release-upgrade22:42
Jordan_Uvalla: OK, good. Then please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".22:42
hggdhcoolchris: probably yes, but YMMV due to changes in the kernel22:43
coolchrisok thanks22:43
Jordan_Ucoolchris: What driver are you trying to compile? What guide are you following? Have you tested to see if an out of tree driver is even required any more for your hardware?22:44
vallaJordan_U: //termbin.com/0lxr22:45
vallaerm http://termbin.com/0lxr22:45
coolchriswhen i get bionic beaver i have to compile driver for software defined radio the driver that comes weith ubuntu uses it for a radio in europe but radio driver repurposes it22:45
coolchrisor i mean it supposed to be for tv in europe22:45
vallaJordan_U: I got the screen log from the upgrade process also if that would help22:47
coolchrishttps://ranous.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/rtl-sdr4linux_quickstartv2-18.pdf that is the guide22:47
Petlesszuy_That did it, thanks Jordan_U22:48
Petlesszuy_Stilly I did that to myself22:48
onitlikesonicCan anyone lend me a hand on ubuntu partitioning? i got the following https://pastebin.com/zPRcUinj and i am looking to get (a fixed 10GB / partition)  + (a fixed 1GB SWAP) +(all the rest of the space in an ext4 partition) howevr at the moment all is being put into the swap! crazy!23:01
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vallaJordan_U: did you check the paste?23:15
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DrNoNeck_Nick DrNoNeck23:22
jahtemgI guess this ia a very common question, but how many hours till the LTS release ?23:27
guivercjahtemg, there is no set 'time', Canonical only say the day of release.23:30
jahtemgI heard there was a huge fail with bricks and stuff23:31
jahtemgIsn't there something like "Canonical standard time" ?23:33
guivercjahtemg, its a huge job, so problems are expected and occur every release i'm sure.  i no longer watch that closely (you can predict its 'time' in the hour-or-two prior as mirrors get ready), but i'm sure it'll come out today/thursday UST time23:35
nulliusprepared my usb stick and everything still waiting23:36
nulliuslol23:37
jahtemgSame lol23:37
nulliusi guess it's a few hours then23:37
jahtemgSilox ?23:47
siloxHello, I wanted to see if anyone could verify that both Landscape (on premises install) and MAAS will both function on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS that's scheduled to be released tomorrow.  Any help would be appreciated as I'd like to use 18.04 for a Landscape/MAAS deployment for an entire datacenter.23:49
minimecnullius: jahtemg: Why don't you just go with the last 'daily build' and avoid all the 'traffic jam' after the official release? Just an idea... ;)23:50
minimechttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/23:51
jahtemgWebpage is still not updated23:52
nulliusminimec, good idea although i like the anticipation of the wait. think i will use the torrent when it comes to ease the demand23:53
siloxAlso, does anyone know if 18.04 is released right at midnight on the 26th in a particular time zone or later in the day?23:53
jahtemgI asked this question already @syilox. Canonical only gives date.23:54
jahtemgsilox*, sorry23:54
siloxok, thanks for the info23:54
jahtemgIt's just me who thinks moving buttons to the right was a bad idea ? :)23:55
siloxI think you can move them back23:55
siloxI probably will, I've gotten used to the left side now23:55
Jarcyk9hi23:56
jahtemgYup... somehow it feels better to have them near the launcher... at least as if its at its default position23:56
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minimecnullius: Well... I don't want to spoil your expectations, but it works fine. ;) I tested Ubuntu and Ubuntu Mate for weeks now...23:59

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