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Spassor that's just the way those panel plugins are designed and the icons will always scale up to the panel size?00:17
Spassok never mind, I got an answer on Xfce forums that I need to add CSS rules for every plugin in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css00:51
bluesabreochosi: think that's something we might be able to do from the panel itself? ^01:36
ali1234https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfpanel-switch/+bug/176674601:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1766746 in xfpanel-switch (Ubuntu) "Cannot save customized configurations - can only copy defaults" [Undecided,New]01:54
ali1234this bug describes the third issue i was talking about the other day - the one i said i didn't fix01:54
ali1234but reporter says it works with the latest release so i am puzzled by that01:55
ali1234bluesabre: did you pull any other changes in the last release?02:01
bluesabreali1234: nope, just that one MR02:05
ali1234hmm02:05
ali1234well, see the comment i just wrote on that bug... i can really see no way how my patched fixed it, and i think the reporter is wrong about it being fixed02:06
ali1234the real problem is it seems to be a bug in the gui code which i didn't write and don't understand :(02:08
ali1234and i dont think i will have time to figure it out before release02:08
ali1234furretuber saw the same problem while testing my patch02:09
ali1234more evidence it isnt fixed. and also it's why i made it check for orphans when loading the config02:09
ali1234not just saving02:09
bluesabreI'm not sure it's a bug. The save button is a toolbar attached to the treeview... so clicking save should save what the current selected item is... I would think02:11
ali1234perhaps then it is a UI design issue :)02:11
ali1234i must say i was not able to reproduce it myself, but i did not try very hard02:12
bluesabreYeah02:12
bluesabreIt's contextual. If you click save on current configuration, you should save current configuration02:12
bluesabresave on gnome, save gnome, etc02:12
ali1234furretuber was loading an old bad configuration to check my patch (which correctly identified the orphans)02:13
ali1234but then on saving the configuration, the orphans always came back because it was copying his old config02:13
ali1234but it could definitely be as you say, if he left the old config selected02:13
bluesabreI could make it more verbose, but tooltips with paragraphs inside are bad tooltips :)02:14
ali1234maybe we need a "save active config" button and a separate "make copy" button, with the latter doing what the save button does currently02:14
ali1234idk, but i think it's too late to fix now02:15
bluesabreyeah02:15
bluesabrenot arriving for bionic :)02:15
Spassjust noticed on new bionic ISO in VM, Network Manager Applet is sometimes duplicated on the panel, so I have two icons now, one from Notification Are and one from Status Notifier Items, but I guess this is a well known bug02:16
ali1234tbh, why would you even save an existing configuration? you need to export it if you want the actual file, and there doesn't seem to be any way to save over an existing config02:16
bluesabreI use it to save current and then load something else02:18
bluesabreI like my panel config, but I gotta make screenshots for releases :)02:18
ali1234yes, i think that's why most people would use it, but i don't see how saving anything other than the real current xfconf is useful?02:19
bluesabreExporting is handy, but only needed if you're sharing or reinstalling02:19
bluesabredunno02:20
bluesabreif 5 buttons in the toolbar act on the treeview and one doesn't, I'd say that one isn't working correctly02:21
bluesabreif saving current needs to be a separate action, needs to be separate02:21
ali1234it does act on the tree view though - it creates a new entry on it02:21
ali1234i dunno, UI is not my thing. i usually use the command line interface anyway :)02:22
bluesabrerephrased... if the other five act on the currently selected item, the other should too02:22
bluesabre:)02:22
bluesabreIt's a bad UI02:22
ali1234i don't think it would be particularly unusual for what is effectively a "new" button to be grouped with the others02:22
bluesabreBut it's a config app for an app that already has a config app :)02:23
bluesabreReally, ochosi needs to add it to the panel :)02:23
bluesabreBut yeah, we can revisit in b+102:24
bluesabretired from the busy cycle... ready to release and relax02:24
ali1234agreed02:24
ali1234the core xfconf code could use some love too02:25
ali1234can't remember if this started out as python3 but it doesn't use a lot of nice py3 features where it could02:25
Unit193Liley started out supporting both.02:26
ali1234nah it definitely didn't support both02:26
ali1234unless it was by accident02:26
ali1234ah... i did write it with python3... just didn't know what i was doing then :)02:27
Unit193Hah, nice.02:29
bluesabre:)02:52
Volkodavhas anybody noticed that panel-xkb is a cpu hog? Has been eating up to 40% of CPU since early alpha 18.04?15:02
flocculantVolkodav: I assume that you have a bug number from back then>16:38
flocculant?16:39
willemleigh17:22
* willem facepalms17:22
willemsorry about that. Was trying to find out if leigh was online.17:22
krytarikLOL :D17:22
* willem silently moves away - runs out of the channel17:23
krytarikOh nooo!17:23
willem:-)17:23
flocculantanother respin looking likely18:07
akxwi-davewhat they respining this time?18:59
flocculantnot really sure tbh - not anting xubuntuish for sure19:00
akxwi-daveaslong as they don't break anything xubuntuish.. :-)19:02
flocculant:)19:02
flocculantubiquity and misc ...19:04
flocculantakxwi-dave: ^^19:04
akxwi-daveahhh19:04
akxwi-daveNow I deffo hope they don't break anythiny xubuntish.....  :-)19:06
ochosibluesabre_: adding xfpanelswitch to the panel is a bit hard without porting to C (which probably wouldn't be much fun)20:11
ochosibluesabre_: and regarding the css, would be interesting to see what ppl add there and whether it's the gtk3 panel or the gtk2 panel20:11
ali1234i've started putting all my customizations in git: https://github.com/ali1234/dotfiles20:38
ochosiah right, you're still using Orion?20:56
ali1234yes20:56
ali1234only xfwm window decorations though20:57
ochosioh ok21:08

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