[01:25] <concretesledge> i have a problem with my repository list, i installed Ultimate Edition with Kubuntu
[02:08] <katnip> valerie has it been released here in states yet?
[02:08] <katnip> east coast
[02:09] <katnip> if we have been updating/upgrading for sometime, how can we tell when it's released then
 where do you obtain ultimate edition, aaaand WTf is that?
[02:35] <ca_cabotage> hey all, does anyone know what time today kubuntu 18.04 LTS will be released for download?
[02:53] <Phylter> Can't you download the beta now and just use apt to update once it's finally released?
[02:54] <Phylter> Beta 2 actually seems really stable to me. It's what I'm using right now.
[03:46] <valorie> there is no Ultimate Edition
[03:46] <valorie> they might have meant the latest daily ISO
[03:46] <valorie> you can dl the RC or beta as you prefer
[03:46] <valorie> and just update tomorrow
[04:30] <BionicMac> valorie: i386 testcases have begun. See offtopic. =)
[04:31] <valorie> \o/
[07:01] <jonah> Hi can anyone please  help me get my sound working on Kubuntu 17.10? I have kubuntu installed on an Asus T100TA Transformer and I have no sound at all from Phonon / Pulseaudio...
[07:01] <jonah> I've read online various fixes and threads about sound not working on ubuntu or with alsa but don't know about Kubuntu
[07:03] <valorie> I never had any sound issues in 17.10, but am about to get off irc for the night
[07:03] <valorie> !sound
[07:04] <valorie> that troubleshooting link always worked for me before
[07:04] <jonah> valorie: ok thanks will check it...
[07:29] <Arthur_D> I guess there's not much use in asking when the release will be out today?
[07:29] <Arthur_D> it's probably ready when it's ready :)
[07:29] <Unit193> Yep.
[07:29] <Kon-> #ubuntu has an !isitoutyet command
[07:29] <Arthur_D> ah cool
[07:30] <Unit193> !isitout | Here too.
[07:30] <Arthur_D> usually I'm not so impatient, but gonna be stuck on a couple airports for some hours today so I wanted to spend it doing something productive ;)
[07:32] <valorie> a release before it's ready -- not so good
[07:32] <Arthur_D> not sure if they will appreciate me torrenting a live ISO tho
[07:32] <valorie> ever tried to each a cake that's not quite baked?
[07:32] <Arthur_D> :D
[07:32] <Arthur_D> good point
[07:32] <Unit193> valorie: Ever tried cookies before they're baked? ;)
[07:32] <valorie> yes
[07:33] <valorie> better when done to perfection!
[07:33] <Kon-> Arthur_D, you could try the daily and update it later today
[07:33] <Arthur_D> hmm yeah I guess. Or I could wait till tomorrow, wouldn't hurt either
[07:34] <Arthur_D> endless possibilities!
[07:34] <Kon-> But then you still don't have anything to do at the airport except spam !isitoutyet
[07:34] <Arthur_D> haha exactly
[07:34] <Arthur_D> I could just check the website though
[07:35] <Arthur_D> and not annoy you guys too much
[07:36] <Arthur_D> I'm also involved with an open source project, certainly not as large as a distro but I appreciate the fact that rushed releases are never a good idea
[07:37] <Arthur_D> luckily we just release whenever we feel like it ;)
[07:38] <Kon-> That's what Chakra Linux does. That's not a slam on them, but it's their actual release model
[07:38] <valorie> Debian does that as well
[07:39] <Kon-> True, Debian's release schedule is a general window
[07:39] <Kon-> "around 18 months from now"
[07:40] <Arthur_D> we try having at least one release per year, but sometimes it's been two. Generally it's one a year
[07:42] <ibm6659> halo
[07:43] <ibm6659> is anybody out there ?
[07:43] <Kon-> Hey
[09:21]  * BionicMac brews coffee...
[09:57] <wal> How long for 18.04? It's late here and I should go to bed...
[10:09] <Kon-> wal, if you're in NZ, you should probably go to sleep
[10:10] <alket> hi, in Quassel irc client, on wizard, the proposed connection is named Lubuntu IRC and autojoins #lubuntu channel.
[10:13] <acheronuk> wal: definitely go to bed
[10:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:37] <wal> OK goodnight. Kubuntumorrow!
[11:10] <Shibe> when ubuntu 18.04 is out, how will I as a kubuntu 17.10 user upgrade?
[11:10] <Shibe> will apt dist-upgrade work?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Shibe,no, use sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:12] <mparillo> I think it is more like a do-release-upgrade, but, yes, it should work when announced. All that said, I prefer to take a good backup, test it, and then do a clean install.
[11:12] <Shibe> ah
[11:12] <Shibe> thanks
[11:12] <mparillo> Yeah, what BluesKaj said.
[11:12] <Shibe> thought do-release-upgrade was a joke command at first though
[11:12] <Shibe> heh
[11:13] <BluesKaj> make sure you update and upgrade 17.10 first just for safety's sake
[11:23] <tkeller> I want to upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04, but do-release-upgrade shows that there is no new release available. Am I doing something wrong or do I have to wait for some hours?
[11:23] <acheronuk> !isitoutyet
[11:24] <tkeller> thanks
[11:25] <acheronuk> we don't have an ETA. ubuntu is looking at bugs in their live session at the moment
[11:26] <BluesKaj> to those who are interested register here and you'll receive an email when bionic hits the repos https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[11:29] <Talles> Thanks BluesKaj
[11:29] <BluesKaj> np
[11:39] <Dragnslcr> My company's Cisco VPN uses a web page for login. Can the System Settings UI or OpenConnect handle that, or do I need to use Cisco's client?
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, there's a cisco vpn compatible client in the repos called vpnc\
[11:44] <BluesKaj> you'll find it in the software center for reference or install
[11:46] <bigLoove> Hello guys! I have a weird bug I guess, I need to sudo update-grub after every shutdown otherwise the encryption prompt at boot will not occur
[11:46] <bigLoove> Anybody heard about this or can help me?
[11:52] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I think vpnc is for the "older" Cisco VPN. We use AnyConnect, which I think is handled by OpenConnect instead of vpnc.
 Hello kubuntu  doesn't detect my correct resolution if I put with CVT. I got weird colors
 2560*1080
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, openconnect client is also available as a cisco compatible client
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Neyder, CVT?
[11:56] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- yeah, I've tried both the command line and System Settings, and it doesn't accept my login. Cisco's client works because it can open the web page to do the login.
[11:57] <Dragnslcr> I was just wondering if OpenConnect supports that functionality
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, well install openconnect and find out ...i use a vpn in the cli , but it's not cisco
[12:06] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- yup, I've tried it, and it didn't seem to work. I was just wondering if anyone knew if OpenConnect is supposed to support it or not.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, well its ays so in muon
[12:07] <BluesKaj> says so
[12:07] <BluesKaj> !openconnect
[12:08] <BluesKaj> !OpenConnect
[12:09] <BluesKaj> that's odd it's listed in the software center and muon
[12:09] <Dragnslcr> It does? I don't see anything in the description about web page login
[12:10] <Dragnslcr> That's the specific feature that I need
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, you may need to install  network-manager-openconnect as well
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- it's already installed
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, perhaps you shoul contact your cisco server and ask for the command that will resolve the login page
[12:29] <Mrokii> Hello. Whenever I restart my System (Kubuntu 17.10), I get a popup saying "Extra packages can be installed to enhance functionality for Firefox". But when I click on it an try to install/update Flash, that ends with an error message saying "An error occurred while applying changes". Does anybody know what causes this or how I can deactivate this annoying popup?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, usually the there's a .txt file in /etc/openconnect which contains your username and password which is read by the server when connecting, that's how most vpns work afaik
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Mrokii, yeah, righjt click on it and choose hide
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, so you shouldn't need a login page
[12:47] <Mrokii> BluesKaj: I'll try that next time it pops up, thanks.
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I suspect it's because they send a code via SMS as a second factor
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, ok understood, extra security, a bit of a pita tho :/
[13:01] <Dragnslcr> Yep
[13:01] <Dragnslcr> The Cisco client works fine, so it's not a big problem. I was just hoping to be able to use OpenConnect instead.
[13:08] <BluesKaj> openconnect is cisco's proprietary vpn protocol service and client afaik ..
[13:47] <releaseHour18_04> hello...today is 26/04/2018 the day on which the final release of UBUNTU 18.04 was scheduled
[13:47] <releaseHour18_04> do we know WHEN more or less K U B U N T U  18.04 will be downloadable
[13:47] <releaseHour18_04> ?
[13:48] <acheronuk> releaseHour18_04: not yet. ubuntu release team are fixing some last minute bugs with their live session. so no firm ETA yet
[13:49] <releaseHour18_04> ok...but in general, ubuntu and kubuntu have the same moment of publication or is there a gab?
[13:51] <acheronuk> we all release together
[13:53] <acheronuk> ubuntu handles publishing all the images, and turning on the new metainfo so release upgrader knows there is a new release available
[14:05] <Mrokii> Hello. Seems something went wrong when upgrading from 17.10 to 18.04. For some reason, Gnome got installed during the upgrade-process, and also my root-filesystem went 100% full just before obsolete files should have been removed. I can start the system, but it seems that the nvidia-driver (although seemingly installed) isn't used. Any thoughts what I can do?
[14:06] <diogenes_> fresh re-install
[14:08] <Mrokii> That's the last thing I want to do If I can prevent it.
[14:10] <Mrokii> Trying something else. Bye until later, maybe.
[14:13] <Mrokii> For the record, everything works fine again. Tried installing another version of the nvidia-driver. No reinstallation necessary.
[14:17] <user|55092> Hi, when will be kubuntu 18.04 released?
[14:18] <Dragnslcr> !isitoutyet
[14:18] <Mrokii> Hm, well, I did upgrade to 18.04 a short while ago.
[14:19] <user|55092> About when will be ISO image?
[14:20] <alok_> when will be download link for kubuntu 18.04 up?
[14:22] <user|12816> 18.04 download link?
[14:23] <Dragnslcr> !isitoutyet
[14:23] <dbrass> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-April/date.html
[14:24] <dbrass> check for yourself but don't DDOS the mailing list with F5 ;)
[14:24] <krosonp> dbrass: lol
[14:27] <flash_go_away> hi all, i am happily running Kubuntu 17.10 kde 5.12.4 and 4 gigs of ram im having two or three problems i still cant find any answers too resolve
[14:29] <flash_go_away> running firefox with google map causes a total system freeze. from that freeze i cant get to a shell or do anying but alt sysreq REISUB
[14:30] <flash_go_away> should i down grade firefox from 59.0.2
[14:30] <flash_go_away> is there a crash log i can go explore to see whats up
[14:31] <mparillo> flash_go_away: I had that when my VM tried to use HW acceleration.
[14:32] <flash_go_away> im not on a vm but that sound like a ram issue too. is HW acceleration somehting i kill in firefox config
[14:33] <flash_go_away> ok cool found how to do that will give it a try thanks
[14:33] <flash_go_away> next
[14:35] <flash_go_away> all my kubuntu machines when restarted get a kde box asking me to install Flash i uncheck and click cancel but it comes back after every time i reboot
[14:35] <flash_go_away> is there some setting im missing that says adobie flash go away for ever?
[14:39] <mparillo> I believe that was removed in BB (to become 18.04 today).
[14:40] <alok_> when will download link for kubuntu 18.04 be up?
[14:41] <flash_go_away> WOW exciting times bionic bever
[14:41] <quaru> alok_ you can dl the PR now, and after an 'apt upgrade' it's the same thing
[14:42] <mparillo> alok_: Often before the official release announcement. I would guess not much before midnight UTC.
[14:43] <flash_go_away> lastly
[14:43] <quaru> flash_go_away: Adobe announced a bit ago they're not doing flash anymroe
[14:44] <flash_go_away> when i chose my time zone on set up the first log in screen is in the language of that time
[14:44] <flash_go_away> no matter where i change things to english that screen is still in foreign language
[14:45] <Mrokii> flash_go_away: I had the same annoying popup for months. Never found a way to get rid of it. I haven't paid attention after upgrade, but it may be gone now.
[14:45] <flash_go_away> bye bye adobie hello standardized and secure web
[14:46] <Mrokii> If only.
[14:46] <flash_go_away> baby steps
[15:11] <Mrokii> Strange. I just noticed that Plasma is displayed on vt1, instead of vt7, as it has always been, at least for me. It must be something that got changed during the upgrade. What's the rationale behind that?
[15:28] <acheronuk> Mrokii: ubuntu and ubiquity-dm switched to VT1 by default for 18.04, which we meant could get rid of our patching to force VT7 which was never ideal but required while other ubuntu bits needed it
[15:29] <Mrokii> acheronuk: Okay, thanks for the explanation. As long as I know that this is the way it's supposed to be it's fine with me.
[15:29] <Mrokii> I mean, as long as it isn't a bug or something.
[15:29] <acheronuk> not a bug
[15:30] <Mrokii> Yeah, I understand.
[15:45] <Mrokii> Has anybody else noticed frequent crashes of kwin (in conjunction with nvidia-drivers) when compositor is switched on?
[16:07] <alok_> when is kubuntu 18.04 coming?
[16:44] <ca_cabotage> 18.04.... where are you!
[16:47] <Kon-> There's some final testing going on
[16:48] <ca_cabotage> sad day - i was hoping to be off windows 10 on my laptop by now
[16:49] <Kon-> It's hardly mid day in the USA
[16:49] <ca_cabotage> yeah, i know im being impatient
[17:15] <diegoC> Can we upgrade to 18.04 today?
[17:18] <acheronuk> diegoC: not just yet. last minute fixes and image rebuilds happening for all flavours
[17:19] <diegoC> Great! In a couple of hours "do-release-upgrade" ? :-)
[17:20] <Mrokii> This may sound like a silly question, but should "lsb_release -a" state the distributor ID as "Kubuntu" or "Ubuntu"?
[17:22] <diegoC> Mrokii: Should state Ubuntu.
[17:27] <Dragnslcr> Mrokii- Kubuntu is still the Ubuntu distribution, just with different packages installed by default
[17:30] <Mrokii> diegoC, Dragnslcr: Thanks. Out of interest though, is Kubuntu actually referenced somewhere in the files, or is it always just "Ubuntu"?
[17:31] <diegoC> Mrokii: You could execute: cat /var/log/installer/media-info
[17:32] <diegoC> Should state the original installer you used and the date of installation.
[17:33] <Mrokii> diegoC: Seems so. It says "Kubuntu 16.04"
[18:21] <motsu__> heyya, is there a link to the 18.04 lts release image (or info on when its going live)?
[18:23] <diogenes_> motsu__, how do you think, how many people have asked the same question here in the past two days? :)
[18:27] <motsu__> diogenes_: im sure. im not seeing any links online and some googling just points me to the RC image. i feel like a junky needing his new kubuntu fix :p
[18:28] <diogenes_> motsu__, usually it takes few days after the canonical's ubuntu is released, other spins catching up with it
[18:31] <motsu__> ah, makes sense.
[18:34] <krosonp> diogenes_: actually that's not the case. It's more common all of them release at the same day
[18:34] <diegoC> I'm waiting for the announce
[18:36] <acheronuk> images are rebuilding, so not imminent
[18:46] <krosonp> acheronuk: but not too far off either :)
[18:46] <acheronuk> fingers crossed. it's been a long day
[18:47] <krosonp> acheronuk: All ISOs are currently uploading to cdimage, then it will be a matter of minutes
[18:50] <acheronuk> but then they need to be smoketested. etc etc etc
[19:48] <diegoC> Will 'do-release-upgrade' work when ISOs are uploaded?
[19:48] <valorie> yes
[19:48] <valorie> but right now, we need testers
[19:48] <valorie> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/389/builds
[19:48] <valorie> last minute bug fix
[19:49] <valorie> login there, download/zsync from there
[19:49] <valorie> report results there
[19:49] <valorie> plz
[19:50]  * BionicMac is testing new i386 image now
[20:06] <acheronuk> diegoC: do-release-upgrade will work once the release meta is updated on changelogs.ubuntu.com
[20:07] <acheronuk> usually that is later in the day, some hours after isos go live. today, who knows?
 To be honest, I'd probably wait a few days to do anything major
 the mirrors tend to be slammed for a bit after a release
 If you do upgrade, download the ISOs via torrent (and preferably seed for a while) and set them up as a source for APT to pull from
 not exactly sure how to do that
[20:52] <user|72765> how to install something at boot time for try kubuntu
[21:10] <user|53580> Hello, dear friends!!! Is RC (Release Candidate) of Bionic Beaver (18.04) a stable version of Kubuntu or I need wait a little bit more? Thanks
[21:11] <spicypixel> can you wait a day?
 I'd wait a few days at least, to be honest.  The mirrors are likely to be under heavy use, causing slow speeds
[21:12] <user|53580> Yes! So, it'll be ok in a day? But what is the name of the stable release?
[21:12] <krosonp> IrcsomeBot: Use the torrent and no problem
 plus, you'd be letting the early adopters figure out any issues
[21:13] <viewer|12113> They just uploaded it, but giving me an "denied" message when attempting to download the .iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/18.04/release/
[21:14] <user|53580> But you can upgrade from the cli?
[21:15] <viewer|12113> Ah true, but I want to do a fresh install.
[21:16] <user|53580> I think that in couple of days it'll be in all the mirrors
[21:19] <user|53580> So, good luck to everybody!!! Many happy returns of new releases ))
[21:19] <spicypixel> torrent works though if you want it now
[21:20] <shevchuk> Anyone know a way to temporary "lock" user in an app, e.g. launch text editor and hide other UI elements and block switching to other apps or closing? Unlock when timer runs out or on keyboard shortcut + password. I know kiosk distros exist, what I need is more like "strong focus mode" on regular Ubuntu.
[21:22] <shevchuk> perhaps I could just kquitapp5 plasmashell and krunner...
[21:23] <releaseWHEN> hello, I do not want to put pressure, just to organize my day better: do we perhaps know when KUBUNTU 18.04 LTD final release will be launged? I mean still today or do they need more time?
[21:29] <viewer|12113> releaseWHEN it's out now - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/18.04/release/
[21:34] <releaseWHEN> but is this the official final release?
[21:34] <releaseWHEN> on kubuntu.org you still cannot se it
[21:35] <viewer|12113> It's their official release files, just got out like 20 mins ago. They just haven't updated the site yet.
[21:35] <releaseWHEN> see
[21:35] <krosonp> It is. But the official site will only be updated when the official announcement is posted by Ubuntu
[21:36] <releaseWHEN> ahh, ok so i can start to install this final version NOW, right?
[21:36] <viewer|12113> And my torrent is downloaded, yes you can. Go with the torrent, doesn't seem to be possible to download the .iso
[21:37] <sg451> i was able to download from here http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/18.04/release/
[21:38] <sg451> library doesn't like torrent files
[21:40] <releaseWHEN> thanks, this mirrorsite contains the identical image as the original http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/18.04/release/  right?
[21:40] <shevchuk> make sure checksum match after download, especially if you do not dl with torrent
[21:40] <sg451> it's a mirror of the ubuntu website.. so i think it's legit?!?
[21:41] <releaseWHEN> i hope so :-) how do i check the checksums, which is the command to do so?
[21:44] <sg451> i think you just use sha256sum <filename> from the commandline
[21:45] <shevchuk> yeah, or just right click and go to properties > checksums tab
[21:46] <releaseWHEN> or use google and find this aerticle https://itsfoss.com/checksum-tools-guide-linux/
[21:46] <releaseWHEN> -)
[21:47] <releaseWHEN> but easiest thing is the using right click  properties > checksums tab , thanks for explaining
[21:55] <michaelmudd> personally, i love windows and i would never fall out of one! :)
[21:57] <BionicMac> =)
[23:06] <katnip> it's out
[23:08] <krosonp> !isitout
[23:08] <krosonp> yep :)