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| AuroraAvenue | knightwise : current situation [ https://imgur.com/GyILbYC ] Hotel in Burnley on hoel wifi - no there's no talcum powder in the room. | 06:55 |
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| SuperMatt | happy *buntu day! | 07:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | another day, another distro... :-P | 07:24 |
| AuroraAvenue | whats is that subreddit about cassette culture named again ? I s it the Alt-J relaxer cassette ? | 07:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | i would have thought it would be named something like, bring_your_own_pencil :-) | 07:46 |
| AuroraAvenue | zmoylan-pi, so you're a belgian rebel with a pecil, hey ? Huh ... | 07:48 |
| AuroraAvenue | https://youtu.be/_rsycfDliZU?t=4s | 07:55 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:30 |
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| AuroraAvenue | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiMXd4U8kFQ | how mu ch a plastic squirrel these days ? | 08:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 08:40 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 08:50 |
| * zmoylan-pi waits patiently for xubuntu so it will be a while yet... | 08:53 | |
| BionicMatt | You can probably just upgrade now without any issues | 08:54 |
| brobostigon | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseAnnouncement seems release has happened. | 08:57 |
| ali1234 | that's early | 09:02 |
| ali1234 | isnt it normally released at like 4pm? | 09:02 |
| brobostigon | no idea. | 09:02 |
| === Darkstar is now known as Guest91492 | ||
| ali1234 | also isn't it normally official when that mail is sent to ubuntu-devel list? | 09:03 |
| ali1234 | lenovo have finally released a stand alone update iso for x250 bios, so i'll be applying that first... when i figure out how to boot it from USB | 09:05 |
| knightwise | hey peeps | 09:09 |
| brobostigon | hi | 09:10 |
| knightwise | hey brobostigon how are you dude | 09:10 |
| brobostigon | half asleep, and you? | 09:11 |
| knightwise | at work, trying to make the day go by faster | 09:12 |
| brobostigon | good luck. | 09:13 |
| knightwise | yeah .. | 09:24 |
| knightwise | been trying out ubuntu 18.04 over the last week | 09:24 |
| knightwise | looks realy good | 09:25 |
| knightwise | broke my install yesterday by trying out the community theme | 09:25 |
| psutton | hi all | 10:45 |
| brobostigon | hi | 10:46 |
| psutton | just waiting for the 18.04 release | 10:47 |
| brobostigon | :) | 10:47 |
| psutton | i have 4 labels printed out ready too | 10:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | a badly scribbled label with a sharpie on a dvd not good enough? :-) | 10:48 |
| psutton | i have printed lables off | 10:49 |
| psutton | as i have pressit label kit | 10:49 |
| psutton | so just need to burn dvd, test it then stick a label on | 10:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | whatever happened to the tech that allowed you to print pics on the data side of the discs... | 10:50 |
| psutton | zmoylan-pi: hand written labels are good for personal use, looks bad if giving out cds / dvds | 10:50 |
| psutton | zmoylan-pi: lightscribe | 10:50 |
| psutton | or is that differet | 10:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | ppppftttt... i sent critical security patches on reformatted aol floppies back in the day :-D | 10:51 |
| psutton | lol | 10:51 |
| psutton | i remember installing slackware from floppy | 10:51 |
| psutton | used rawrite from MSDOS to create the disk sets | 10:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | install instructions written in pencil on a post-it... a really professional organisation... :-) | 10:52 |
| psutton | oddly that was havng to copy to the floppy disks from cdrom as linux didn't quite support cd drives as well back then | 10:52 |
| psutton | i am guessing 18.04 isn;t out yet, | 10:53 |
| psutton | looking at the website, i do get old sites caught up in the cache sometimes, | 10:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think it is... i'm waiting for the xubuntu flavour... | 10:54 |
| psutton | ok | 10:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | i never got on with unity | 10:54 |
| psutton | i think ubuntu uses gnome now | 10:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | except for a few months when i had a laptop that resisted removing windows 8 and when i finally got ubuntu on after a few months it was less unpleasent than win 8 for a few months... :-) | 10:56 |
| psutton | i use x/lubuntu on netbooks | 10:56 |
| psutton | and mint on main desktop | 10:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | less of a memory hog | 10:56 |
| psutton | however given how well suported both ubuntu and mint are, sometimes it is good to go with what is well supported | 10:56 |
| psutton | yeah xubuntu is nice | 10:56 |
| psutton | esp when installing for others | 10:57 |
| psutton | debian is another option, for installs | 10:57 |
| knightwise | i have been running the final beta since the beginning of the week , very pleased with it so far | 10:58 |
| psutton | i am also waiting for the server release for my od PC which I am using as a server | 10:59 |
| psutton | or want to stick 18.04 server on and hve a go with stuff | 10:59 |
| psutton | mainly put the assault cube back on | 10:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | xubuntu has a nice win2000 ui feel that i like | 10:59 |
| psutton | yeah | 11:00 |
| psutton | i remember getting boxes of ubuntu cd's from people on here | 11:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | i just bought linux mags with the discs on the front and if anyone asked i'd pass them along | 11:01 |
| psutton | i am guessing the next issues will have ubuntu 18.04 on anyway | 11:02 |
| psutton | which is handy for the various flavours | 11:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | before broadband it was often the easiest way... | 11:02 |
| psutton | mint 19 is out may / june as that is based on ubuntu | 11:02 |
| psutton | i am hoping warzone2100 will work, it crashes on my main system when run | 11:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | give me a browser, a text editor and a terminal to steer them by... | 11:04 |
| psutton | i also have a stack of flash disks that are going to need updating | 11:05 |
| psutton | thankfully the tech jam is taking a few months off | 11:06 |
| psutton | so i have time to make up resources like that | 11:06 |
| zleap | hi maxam9 | 14:28 |
| maxam9 | zleap: hi | 14:44 |
| zleap | hows you ? | 14:46 |
| maxam9 | ok thanks | 14:46 |
| zleap | cool | 14:46 |
| zleap | i like the sound of the minimal install feature in 18.04 | 14:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | lots of chromebooks getting an install with less storage for just the os i suppose | 14:49 |
| zleap | well chromebooks use google apps don't they, great if you have a good internet connection and want to sign up to google | 15:09 |
| daftykins | Swedish guy in another channel works at a school or similar and is pushing chromebooks out for everything, can't help but feel i'd feel very restricted on such a device | 15:10 |
| daftykins | makes sense for the students who are highly likely to regularly break them though | 15:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | yes, but you can also wipe chromeos and put crouton on and use linux :-) | 15:11 |
| daftykins | yeah i've done it for people - it was a real abortion of an implementation | 15:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | chromebooks are _great_ for schools. cheap and easy to centrally manage | 15:12 |
| zleap | yeah | 15:13 |
| zleap | i have heard of crouton | 15:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | and isn't there a new option that's even better than crouton that means the chromebook doesn't even need to be in developer mode? | 15:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | so turns the chromebook into a netbook | 15:14 |
| daftykins | sounds like something someone recently said, i forget the detail though | 15:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | crostini | 15:15 |
| * zmoylan-pi pats newsbeuter for been a keystroke away on my rasp pi... :-) | 15:16 | |
| daftykins | beuter o0 | 15:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | https://liliputing.com/2018/04/googles-crostini-lets-you-run-gnu-linux-apps-on-chromebooks-without-enabling-developer-mode.html | 15:17 |
| daftykins | now the limited storage space will become even more of a problem! | 15:22 |
| zleap | i am guessing they used an ssd | 15:23 |
| zleap | can internal storage be upgraded, i am sure the acer aspire ones (or eeepcs) could be upgraded | 15:24 |
| daftykins | no they didn't | 15:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | on the windows /chromebook/ i got, no panel at bottom to upgrade ram or drive so i'm guessing it's soldered on | 15:25 |
| daftykins | they're eMMCs typically so a lot more limited i think, but then there are a lot of models of chromebook so who knows what the higher end ones are | 15:25 |
| zleap | i guess you need to do a lot of research on em | 15:25 |
| zleap | I have a few netbooks (HP 10" screens) they seem to run chromium | 15:26 |
| zleap | i think chromium is a OSS version of chromeOS | 15:26 |
| zleap | hp Mini 210 | 15:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | i thought chromium was a degoogled chrome browser | 15:27 |
| daftykins | i think that's the browser on its' own | 15:27 |
| daftykins | the open source project Google Chrome the browser is based upon | 15:27 |
| daftykins | !info chromium-browser | 15:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | i have a hp mini 210... great little netbook | 15:27 |
| lubotu3` | chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 65.0.3325.181-0ubuntu0.17.10.1 (artful), package size 51346 kB, installed size 183040 kB | 15:27 |
| zleap | dunno., i think these things get intgerchanged, and it gets confusing what people are refering to | 15:27 |
| daftykins | ^ | 15:27 |
| zleap | ok so running chromeOS then, one of the young people downloaded something to make netbook in to a chrome book | 15:28 |
| zleap | zmoylan-pi: i have a stack of em the school I worked at | 15:28 |
| zleap | they run lubuntu really nicely so some of them have that onm, the others are awaiting an OS | 15:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | and the hp mini 210 could be upgraded from 1gb it was shipped with to 2gb | 15:29 |
| zleap | yeah I need to do that with the one I use | 15:30 |
| daftykins | i wouldn't consider 2GB practical now | 15:30 |
| zleap | well 2gb is better than 1gb | 15:30 |
| zleap | i think if you are careful what you install you're fine with em | 15:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | i only stopped using the 1gb hp a year or two back as my main system :-) | 15:30 |
| daftykins | and a thrown out netbook is better than a netbook :> | 15:30 |
| zleap | yeah | 15:30 |
| zleap | actually they run the Raspbian desktop really well | 15:31 |
| zleap | now there is gpip extender it is possible to plkug in a raspberry pi and get access to the GPIO | 15:31 |
| daftykins | i think standards vary a lot, the minute you put modern websites or a youtube video near a device that's a real test of whether it'll sink or swim | 15:31 |
| zleap | but that also depends on your internet speed / connection quality | 15:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah, the hp was great as long as you didn't use the web... :-) | 15:32 |
| zleap | mine is ok | 15:32 |
| zleap | granted I don't do much intensive stuff, on it | 15:32 |
| zleap | runs weechat nicely | 15:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | then it was okish as long as you only had a few pages open and those not too busy with css/video etc. | 15:32 |
| zleap | yeah | 15:32 |
| zleap | i will upgrade mine to 2gb | 15:33 |
| daftykins | and heavily adblock :P | 15:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | lynx as your main browser... :-) | 15:33 |
| daftykins | hah | 15:33 |
| zleap | lynx, alpine and irc | 15:34 |
| zleap | weechat or irssi what else do ya need | 15:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | and don't forget newsbeuter for rss :-) | 15:34 |
| zleap | yeah | 15:34 |
| zleap | tmux for multi desktops | 15:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | tytter for twitter | 15:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | sc for spreadsheets | 15:34 |
| daftykins | well when you look on ebay and can get a 12 or 14" Lenovo Thinkpad with an i5 4th gen (haswell), 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD for £200 it begs the question why limit yourself | 15:34 |
| zleap | and stuff lke cmatrix, and top to scrare the heck out of the general public | 15:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | nano for text or vim | 15:35 |
| zleap | oh and cat /dev/random (or what ever it is) | 15:35 |
| zleap | anyone looking over your sholder things you some uber hacker trying to break in to something | 15:35 |
| zleap | ping -100 localhost :D | 15:35 |
| zleap | ping - t 100 localhost :D | 15:35 |
| daftykins | -c 100 | 15:35 |
| zleap | yeah | 15:35 |
| daftykins | zleap noted user of hackertyper.com ;) | 15:36 |
| zleap | what is that | 15:36 |
| zleap | i just get a blank page | 15:36 |
| daftykins | start hitting keys | 15:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | right, time to limp to the shops... o/ | 15:37 |
| daftykins | enjoy o/ | 15:37 |
| zleap | that is good | 15:37 |
| zleap | esp if you hit the keyboard really fast | 15:38 |
| zleap | :D | 15:38 |
| zleap | daftykins: what do people think when the see you using that site ? | 15:39 |
| daftykins | haha i was told about it by a woman from the Netherlands, i don't feel the need to pretend :P | 15:40 |
| zleap | ah | 15:42 |
| zleap | it could get people in to trouble at school though | 15:42 |
| zleap | teachers are paranoid, (esp the clueless ones) | 15:43 |
| * zleap wonders when 18.04 is going to be out today | 15:49 | |
| zleap | how is the last min bug squishing going ? :) | 19:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | is it anything like starship troopers? do you want to know more? :-) | 19:18 |
| zleap | just asking how it was going, aparently they found a critcal bug at the last minute | 19:20 |
| zleap | hats off to teh testing team i guess :) | 19:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | it can be a very hard decision to put the brakes on at the very last moment before release | 19:21 |
| zleap | yeah | 19:24 |
| zleap | must have been something very serious | 19:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | or embarrassing... someone mispelled ubuntu... :-P | 19:25 |
| zleap | i have written a script that will download the iso, download the MD5SUMS file and runs a check on the iso | 19:25 |
| zleap | once downloaded | 19:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | i usually wait for xubuntu, then wait a week more in case there's trouble then give it a bash... | 19:27 |
| zleap | yeah | 19:27 |
| zleap | i got a script ready either way | 19:27 |
| zleap | i can modify that for what ever i want | 19:27 |
| * zmoylan-pi goes back to seeing if i can get street view working on my shiny nokia 3310... :-) | 19:28 | |
| zleap | ok | 19:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | huzzah, i just missed the option | 19:29 |
| zleap | ah :) so it works | 19:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | yes, it looks bizzare to see what is essentially a dumbphone wuth street view... :-) | 19:30 |
| zleap | ah | 19:31 |
| zleap | dumbphone, oh non smart phone thing | 19:32 |
| zleap | iirc you can buy the screens for 3310s for artduino projects | 19:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/989589439935647745 | 19:38 |
| zleap | i replied as @dcglug | 19:41 |
| zleap | cool | 19:41 |
| zleap | hi AuroraAvenue | 19:42 |
| AuroraAvenue | I don't want to e that guy, sorry. | 19:43 |
| AuroraAvenue | **be | 19:43 |
| zleap | be who ? | 19:44 |
| AuroraAvenue | the guy who has vodka at a funeral. | 19:44 |
| zleap | ok | 19:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | poitín it is... :-P | 19:45 |
| zleap | i was just replying to the tweet about streetview on a nokia | 19:46 |
| AuroraAvenue | streetview - it needs a mask | 19:46 |
| AuroraAvenue | does anything else do streetview, (not a game tho) | 19:46 |
| AuroraAvenue | ^ ? | 19:46 |
| * AuroraAvenue grips a packet of Brie And Cranberry Crisps. | 19:48 | |
| zleap | there is open street map, and openstreetview | 19:49 |
| zleap | very much work in progress and user contributions | 19:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | sadly they have no java client for dumbphones... | 19:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | i have looked | 19:50 |
| zleap | is there an api | 19:50 |
| zleap | someone could write one | 19:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | number of people writing apps for dumbphones now is fairly low... | 19:50 |
| zleap | yeah | 19:51 |
| AuroraAvenue | so much for winter ! | 20:00 |
| zleap | it is summer in the UK now | 20:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | i believe i did see a forecast today that mentioned snow... | 20:12 |
| zleap | they mentioned hail | 20:13 |
| zleap | but hail and thunderstorms are possible anyway | 20:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | and summer in uk i thought was june, july, august | 20:13 |
| zleap | we are on british summer time | 20:13 |
| zleap | gmt+1 i think | 20:14 |
| zleap | probaby still spring i kinda lost track | 20:14 |
| zleap | esp given the weather is weird | 20:14 |
| zleap | ok i will see if I can download 18.04 in the morning | 20:28 |
| zleap | chat later | 20:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 20:29 |
| AuroraAvenue | http://www.wttr.in/wales | 20:29 |
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