=== uniquorn_ is now known as uniquorn === WillMoogle_ is now known as WillMoogle === triple-clones is now known as tripleclones [06:55] knightwise : current situation [ https://imgur.com/GyILbYC ] Hotel in Burnley on hoel wifi - no there's no talcum powder in the room. [07:14] happy *buntu day! [07:24] another day, another distro... :-P [07:31] whats is that subreddit about cassette culture named again ? I s it the Alt-J relaxer cassette ? [07:46] i would have thought it would be named something like, bring_your_own_pencil :-) [07:48] zmoylan-pi, so you're a belgian rebel with a pecil, hey ? Huh ... [07:55] https://youtu.be/_rsycfDliZU?t=4s [08:30] morning boys and girls. === SuperMatt is now known as BionicMatt [08:39] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiMXd4U8kFQ | how mu ch a plastic squirrel these days ? [08:40] o/ [08:50] o/ [08:53] * zmoylan-pi waits patiently for xubuntu so it will be a while yet... [08:54] You can probably just upgrade now without any issues [08:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseAnnouncement seems release has happened. [09:02] that's early [09:02] isnt it normally released at like 4pm? [09:02] no idea. === Darkstar is now known as Guest91492 [09:03] also isn't it normally official when that mail is sent to ubuntu-devel list? [09:05] lenovo have finally released a stand alone update iso for x250 bios, so i'll be applying that first... when i figure out how to boot it from USB [09:09] hey peeps [09:10] hi [09:10] hey brobostigon how are you dude [09:11] half asleep, and you? [09:12] at work, trying to make the day go by faster [09:13] good luck. [09:24] yeah .. [09:24] been trying out ubuntu 18.04 over the last week [09:25] looks realy good [09:25] broke my install yesterday by trying out the community theme [10:45] hi all [10:46] hi [10:47] just waiting for the 18.04 release [10:47] :) [10:47] i have 4 labels printed out ready too [10:48] a badly scribbled label with a sharpie on a dvd not good enough? :-) [10:49] i have printed lables off [10:49] as i have pressit label kit [10:49] so just need to burn dvd, test it then stick a label on [10:50] whatever happened to the tech that allowed you to print pics on the data side of the discs... [10:50] zmoylan-pi: hand written labels are good for personal use, looks bad if giving out cds / dvds [10:50] zmoylan-pi: lightscribe [10:50] or is that differet [10:51] ppppftttt... i sent critical security patches on reformatted aol floppies back in the day :-D [10:51] lol [10:51] i remember installing slackware from floppy [10:51] used rawrite from MSDOS to create the disk sets [10:52] install instructions written in pencil on a post-it... a really professional organisation... :-) [10:52] oddly that was havng to copy to the floppy disks from cdrom as linux didn't quite support cd drives as well back then [10:53] i am guessing 18.04 isn;t out yet, [10:54] looking at the website, i do get old sites caught up in the cache sometimes, [10:54] i think it is... i'm waiting for the xubuntu flavour... [10:54] ok [10:54] i never got on with unity [10:54] i think ubuntu uses gnome now [10:56] except for a few months when i had a laptop that resisted removing windows 8 and when i finally got ubuntu on after a few months it was less unpleasent than win 8 for a few months... :-) [10:56] i use x/lubuntu on netbooks [10:56] and mint on main desktop [10:56] less of a memory hog [10:56] however given how well suported both ubuntu and mint are, sometimes it is good to go with what is well supported [10:56] yeah xubuntu is nice [10:57] esp when installing for others [10:57] debian is another option, for installs [10:58] i have been running the final beta since the beginning of the week , very pleased with it so far [10:59] i am also waiting for the server release for my od PC which I am using as a server [10:59] or want to stick 18.04 server on and hve a go with stuff [10:59] mainly put the assault cube back on [10:59] xubuntu has a nice win2000 ui feel that i like [11:00] yeah [11:00] i remember getting boxes of ubuntu cd's from people on here [11:01] i just bought linux mags with the discs on the front and if anyone asked i'd pass them along [11:02] i am guessing the next issues will have ubuntu 18.04 on anyway [11:02] which is handy for the various flavours [11:02] before broadband it was often the easiest way... [11:02] mint 19 is out may / june as that is based on ubuntu [11:03] i am hoping warzone2100 will work, it crashes on my main system when run [11:04] give me a browser, a text editor and a terminal to steer them by... [11:05] i also have a stack of flash disks that are going to need updating [11:06] thankfully the tech jam is taking a few months off [11:06] so i have time to make up resources like that [14:28] hi maxam9 [14:44] zleap: hi [14:46] hows you ? [14:46] ok thanks [14:46] cool [14:47] i like the sound of the minimal install feature in 18.04 [14:49] lots of chromebooks getting an install with less storage for just the os i suppose [15:09] well chromebooks use google apps don't they, great if you have a good internet connection and want to sign up to google [15:10] Swedish guy in another channel works at a school or similar and is pushing chromebooks out for everything, can't help but feel i'd feel very restricted on such a device [15:10] makes sense for the students who are highly likely to regularly break them though [15:11] yes, but you can also wipe chromeos and put crouton on and use linux :-) [15:12] yeah i've done it for people - it was a real abortion of an implementation [15:12] chromebooks are _great_ for schools. cheap and easy to centrally manage [15:13] yeah [15:13] i have heard of crouton [15:13] and isn't there a new option that's even better than crouton that means the chromebook doesn't even need to be in developer mode? [15:14] so turns the chromebook into a netbook [15:14] sounds like something someone recently said, i forget the detail though [15:15] crostini [15:16] * zmoylan-pi pats newsbeuter for been a keystroke away on my rasp pi... :-) [15:16] beuter o0 [15:17] https://liliputing.com/2018/04/googles-crostini-lets-you-run-gnu-linux-apps-on-chromebooks-without-enabling-developer-mode.html [15:22] now the limited storage space will become even more of a problem! [15:23] i am guessing they used an ssd [15:24] can internal storage be upgraded, i am sure the acer aspire ones (or eeepcs) could be upgraded [15:24] no they didn't [15:25] on the windows /chromebook/ i got, no panel at bottom to upgrade ram or drive so i'm guessing it's soldered on [15:25] they're eMMCs typically so a lot more limited i think, but then there are a lot of models of chromebook so who knows what the higher end ones are [15:25] i guess you need to do a lot of research on em [15:26] I have a few netbooks (HP 10" screens) they seem to run chromium [15:26] i think chromium is a OSS version of chromeOS [15:27] hp Mini 210 [15:27] i thought chromium was a degoogled chrome browser [15:27] i think that's the browser on its' own [15:27] the open source project Google Chrome the browser is based upon [15:27] !info chromium-browser [15:27] i have a hp mini 210... great little netbook [15:27] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 65.0.3325.181-0ubuntu0.17.10.1 (artful), package size 51346 kB, installed size 183040 kB [15:27] dunno., i think these things get intgerchanged, and it gets confusing what people are refering to [15:27] ^ [15:28] ok so running chromeOS then, one of the young people downloaded something to make netbook in to a chrome book [15:28] zmoylan-pi: i have a stack of em the school I worked at [15:29] they run lubuntu really nicely so some of them have that onm, the others are awaiting an OS [15:29] and the hp mini 210 could be upgraded from 1gb it was shipped with to 2gb [15:30] yeah I need to do that with the one I use [15:30] i wouldn't consider 2GB practical now [15:30] well 2gb is better than 1gb [15:30] i think if you are careful what you install you're fine with em [15:30] i only stopped using the 1gb hp a year or two back as my main system :-) [15:30] and a thrown out netbook is better than a netbook :> [15:30] yeah [15:31] actually they run the Raspbian desktop really well [15:31] now there is gpip extender it is possible to plkug in a raspberry pi and get access to the GPIO [15:31] i think standards vary a lot, the minute you put modern websites or a youtube video near a device that's a real test of whether it'll sink or swim [15:32] but that also depends on your internet speed / connection quality [15:32] yeah, the hp was great as long as you didn't use the web... :-) [15:32] mine is ok [15:32] granted I don't do much intensive stuff, on it [15:32] runs weechat nicely [15:32] then it was okish as long as you only had a few pages open and those not too busy with css/video etc. [15:32] yeah [15:33] i will upgrade mine to 2gb [15:33] and heavily adblock :P [15:33] lynx as your main browser... :-) [15:33] hah [15:34] lynx, alpine and irc [15:34] weechat or irssi what else do ya need [15:34] and don't forget newsbeuter for rss :-) [15:34] yeah [15:34] tmux for multi desktops [15:34] tytter for twitter [15:34] sc for spreadsheets [15:34] well when you look on ebay and can get a 12 or 14" Lenovo Thinkpad with an i5 4th gen (haswell), 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD for £200 it begs the question why limit yourself [15:34] and stuff lke cmatrix, and top to scrare the heck out of the general public [15:35] nano for text or vim [15:35] oh and cat /dev/random (or what ever it is) [15:35] anyone looking over your sholder things you some uber hacker trying to break in to something [15:35] ping -100 localhost :D [15:35] ping - t 100 localhost :D [15:35] -c 100 [15:35] yeah [15:36] zleap noted user of hackertyper.com ;) [15:36] what is that [15:36] i just get a blank page [15:36] start hitting keys [15:37] right, time to limp to the shops... o/ [15:37] enjoy o/ [15:37] that is good [15:38] esp if you hit the keyboard really fast [15:38] :D [15:39] daftykins: what do people think when the see you using that site ? [15:40] haha i was told about it by a woman from the Netherlands, i don't feel the need to pretend :P [15:42] ah [15:42] it could get people in to trouble at school though [15:43] teachers are paranoid, (esp the clueless ones) [15:49] * zleap wonders when 18.04 is going to be out today [19:17] how is the last min bug squishing going ? :) [19:18] is it anything like starship troopers? do you want to know more? :-) [19:20] just asking how it was going, aparently they found a critcal bug at the last minute [19:20] hats off to teh testing team i guess :) [19:21] it can be a very hard decision to put the brakes on at the very last moment before release [19:24] yeah [19:24] must have been something very serious [19:25] or embarrassing... someone mispelled ubuntu... :-P [19:25] i have written a script that will download the iso, download the MD5SUMS file and runs a check on the iso [19:25] once downloaded [19:27] i usually wait for xubuntu, then wait a week more in case there's trouble then give it a bash... [19:27] yeah [19:27] i got a script ready either way [19:27] i can modify that for what ever i want [19:28] * zmoylan-pi goes back to seeing if i can get street view working on my shiny nokia 3310... :-) [19:29] ok [19:29] huzzah, i just missed the option [19:30] ah :) so it works [19:30] yes, it looks bizzare to see what is essentially a dumbphone wuth street view... :-) [19:31] ah [19:32] dumbphone, oh non smart phone thing [19:32] iirc you can buy the screens for 3310s for artduino projects [19:38] https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/989589439935647745 [19:41] i replied as @dcglug [19:41] cool [19:42] hi AuroraAvenue [19:43] I don't want to e that guy, sorry. [19:43] **be [19:44] be who ? [19:44] the guy who has vodka at a funeral. [19:44] ok [19:45] poitín it is... :-P [19:46] i was just replying to the tweet about streetview on a nokia [19:46] streetview - it needs a mask [19:46] does anything else do streetview, (not a game tho) [19:46] ^ ? [19:48] * AuroraAvenue grips a packet of Brie And Cranberry Crisps. [19:49] there is open street map, and openstreetview [19:50] very much work in progress and user contributions [19:50] sadly they have no java client for dumbphones... [19:50] i have looked [19:50] is there an api [19:50] someone could write one [19:50] number of people writing apps for dumbphones now is fairly low... [19:51] yeah [20:00] so much for winter ! [20:11] it is summer in the UK now [20:12] i believe i did see a forecast today that mentioned snow... [20:13] they mentioned hail [20:13] but hail and thunderstorms are possible anyway [20:13] and summer in uk i thought was june, july, august [20:13] we are on british summer time [20:14] gmt+1 i think [20:14] probaby still spring i kinda lost track [20:14] esp given the weather is weird [20:28] ok i will see if I can download 18.04 in the morning [20:28] chat later [20:29] o/ [20:29] http://www.wttr.in/wales