[11:52] <xubuntu64d> Hi, I want to update my xubuntu to the next LTS, Is It Safe to do that? Which coomands should I Use? Is there a Manual? My Config: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bBzNWzTc2h/
[11:54] <xubuntu64d> Is sudo dist-upgrade, the command I should execute?
[11:56] <tiyteeze> Tell me if i'm wrong but the next LTS of xubuntu isn't released yet unless you are talking of 16.04
[11:58] <xubuntu64d> It seems like this is possible from tomorrow. Is there than a safe gui tool? https://xubuntu.org/release/18-04/
[11:58] <tiyteeze> Yes there is a GUI
[11:58] <tiyteeze> built in
[11:58] <tiyteeze> I am not on my computer tight now
[11:59] <tiyteeze> but I remember somwhere on the settings you can say if you want to upgrade your distro and if only want the LTS or not
[11:59] <tiyteeze> Then when the release is on the stable
[11:59] <tiyteeze> you get a pop-up to upgrad
[11:59] <tiyteeze> upgrade
[12:00] <tiyteeze> And I am not shure that it'll be avaiable so soon. On one of the latest article they spoke about a lack of testers
[12:05] <Spass> xubuntu64d, what version are you using right now, 16.04 or 17.10? if you want GUI tool to handle the upgrade, pre-installed software-properties-gtk should take care of that
[12:06] <xubuntu64d> i use 16.04
[12:07] <Spass> if you want to upgrade so early, make sure you have update notification set to "For every release" or something like that in the Updates tab in that software
[12:08] <Spass> because as far as I know, when you have "For every LTS release" you will have to wait for point release 18.04.1 to get notified about the update
[12:11] <Spass> and after the upgrade change it back to "For LTS versions"
[12:13] <Spass> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/notify-lts.jpg
[12:14] <xubuntu64d> ok, I wait just want to use Pretty easy privacy as fast as possibile and they reccomen 18.04 https://pep.foundation/blog/enigmail-2-with-pretty-easy-privacy-pep-support-by-default-for-new-users/index.html
[12:15] <xubuntu64d> *recommend
[12:50] <tiyteeze> and do-release-upgrade will be the right command
[14:31] <nathan_> Hello
[14:31] <nathan_> I read the request on the website for testing feedback.  Running the 18.04 beta for a few days now.. installation went without a hitch
[14:32] <nathan_> Everything I have tried has worked
[14:36] <GridCube> nathan_: report your results in the tracker please :D http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/389/builds
[14:37] <nathan_> Thanks, GridCube
[14:37] <Spass> hello nathan_, the official 18.04 version will be released soon, but make sure to be here later for 18.10 tests also :)
[14:37] <nathan_> Spass..  I will.  I always play with the betas, just have been remiss about reporting
[14:41] <Spass> yeah, I was little bit late for 18.04 here myself, but I'll try to not be late for 18.10
[14:44] <nathan_> Very good.   So, now I have the big decision...  when to upgrade my physical machine from 17.10 to 18.04.  May install it side-by-side first just to be safe
[14:46] <mdm_> hello guys when xubuntu 18.04 will be released
[14:47] <Spass> nathan_, safest way is waiting for the point release 18.04.1 and then upgrade, but I think I'll do that earlier on my machine, I'm on 17.10 also
[14:47] <mdm_> same here
[14:48] <Spass> it should be released really soon
[14:48] <tiyteeze> mdm_: When it's ready :p Ubuntu should release today and Xubuntu might be released startin tomorrow
[14:48] <nathan_> Spass, I am impatient.   :D   I have some extra space on my SSD that I set aside for dual-boot purposes..  I may just throw down a clean 18.04 to shake it down a bit, then do the upgrade later
[14:48] <mdm_> so .. we have to wait
[14:50] <Spass> I thought it will be today, but according to this site (draft) it might be tomorrow - https://xubuntu.org/release/18-04/
[14:50] <Spass> but I'm in no hurry
[14:50] <nathan_> Thinking I might export my package list on 17.10, install 18.04 fresh, import the list, and watch the fireworks
[14:51] <Spass> well in that case - yes, do it outside of your main system :D
[14:52] <mdm_> lol i have lunched beta 1
[14:55] <nathan_> so...  time for a dumb question.  Can the beta be upgraded to the released version?
[14:56] <Spass> it uses the same repos, so sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade and you should be fine
[14:58] <nathan_> Very nice.  Easy peasy
[15:08] <akxwi-dave> Nathan, I have been running an upgraded 17.10 to 18.04 for while now.. and all is good.. the upgrade when quite well. (even if it does have to share a PC with win 10)
[15:09] <nathan_> I don't have the Windoze issue..  only run that as VMs
[17:39] <TDO|Aquina> Is everything going according to plan?
[17:39] <enyc> maybe maybe-not
[17:40] <flocculant> which plan?
[17:41] <enyc> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-April/date.html
[17:41] <enyc> ^ official announcements
[17:41] <enyc> apparently, iso images being respun
[17:41] <enyc> there were some irritating problems, apparently
[17:41] <flocculant> a bit more than irritating for flavours affected ;)
[17:53] <TDO|Aquina> huh? ISO testing? Release of Xubuntu?
[17:53] <TDO|Aquina> Since I/we was/were not accepted in the Launchpad ISO testing grp its a bit hard to know what's going on.
[17:55] <TDO|Aquina> How is the Xubuntu leader at present? I/we were active when Cody A.S. was and Charlie (tca) was active.
[17:55] <TDO|Aquina> Xubuntu hardy and lucyd
[17:55] <TDO|Aquina> lucid
[17:55] <flocculant> if you mean who - there is now a council > https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-council
[17:56] <TDO|Aquina> Sean DAvis?
[17:56] <flocculant> is one of them
[17:56] <TDO|Aquina> I see
[17:59] <TDO|Aquina> some problems, hm I see.
[17:59] <TDO|Aquina> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[17:59] <TDO|Aquina> thanks for the update! :-)
[18:00] <TDO|Aquina> But on the Xubuntu side of things? Everything O.K.?
[18:00] <flocculant> TDO|Aquina: yea - though I will be checking the respin to make sure the fix for others doesn't break us
[18:00] <flocculant> or someone will if I am asleep
[18:01] <TDO|Aquina> :-)
[18:01] <TDO|Aquina> :D
[22:17] <adalbert> Downloading Xubuntu desktop amd64 ... woot !!
[22:21] <Markdown1_> no more 32 versions I heard.
[22:23] <lirodon> no more 32-bit install ISOs actually
[22:24] <Unit193> That's Ubuntu, Xubuntu still has them.
[22:24] <knome> yep.
[22:24] <knome> adalbert, and the ISO you're downloading might be not the final one...
[22:33] <adalbert> https://imgur.com/a/DWYFrQp
[22:33] <adalbert> it's official
[22:34] <knome> it's not
[22:34] <Unit193> It's said that since the 24th.
[22:34] <knome> also clearly random imgur image is more official than the xubuntu website ;)
[23:21] <Markdown1_> I hope there would be an official Raspberry Pi image of Xubuntu this time just like Ubuntu Mate
[23:22] <Unit193> That's a "community" ISO for them anyway, and it was offered to Xubuntu a while ago, but lack of testers so didn't go for it.
[23:24] <knome> yep.
[23:25] <Markdown1_> I think theres a channel of raspberry pi
[23:25] <Markdown1_> maybe we should ask there for testers?
[23:27] <knome> the xubuntu team doesn't have the energy or manpower to coordinate that, but contributions are welcome (eg. if you want to make it happen and donate your time, we can likely make it an official port)
[23:31] <lirodon> update-manager -cd isn't lighting up
[23:36] <Markdown1_> knome oh I guess quite a few contributors/volunteers would be needed then.
[23:36] <Markdown1_> knome Thanks.
[23:37] <Markdown1_> looks like I have Uploaded 10 times more than I have Downloaded the torrent and yet the download is still not 25% :P
[23:38] <knome> Markdown1_, one very active could help a lot, but obviously for testing one isn't really enough... and no problem.
[23:39] <Markdown1_> maybe downloading the ISO from the mirrors and then putting it in the torrent folder and seeding is a better idea.
[23:40] <Markdown1_> too many people trying to download making the whole thing slow.
[23:41] <knome> the main server does serve the torrent too (afaik) so it's not like nobody is seeding ;)
[23:41] <knome> but yes, it might help if a some people with fast upstream and the time to share would have it
[23:41] <Markdown1_> knome ofcourse theres seed, I mean theres too many people :)
[23:41] <knome> welcome LTS release day
[23:42] <lirodon> as in, I run update-manager -cd and it's telling me I have the latest (but if I go there normally it still talks about 17.10)
[23:42] <Markdown1_> IDK I aways prefer fresh installs.
[23:42] <knome> that said, i'm off for now. have a fun release day!
[23:43] <Markdown1_> old habits are hard to get rid of I think.
[23:43] <Markdown1_> *always
[23:43] <Markdown1_> knome goodbye
[23:43] <lirodon> it'd be awkward to probably have to tell my friend (the one I successfully got to switch from XP to Xubuntu on her new-to-her Optiplex) that the recommendation is to reinstall everything
[23:44] <lirodon> Though I basically explained the difference between 16.04 and 17.10, and she chose to start with 16.04
[23:44] <Markdown1_> I think LTS is always a better idea for beginners.
[23:45] <lirodon> I basically told her "this one's LTS, this one isn't, but the next release is LTS _anyway_)
[23:46] <Markdown1_> last I heard Linux Desktop share was at 5%
[23:46] <Markdown1_> I hope there would be some progress now.
[23:47] <lirodon> up-to-date, supported, free, and still good on older hardware is better than Unsupported, Old, Insecure XP imo
[23:47] <Markdown1_> I am also seeding Ubuntu Mate, Kubuntu and Ubuntu Server and my Router LEDs are blinking like crazy :P
[23:48] <Markdown1_> lirodon I agree
[23:51] <lirodon> I had not really looked at Xubuntu for quite a while before this, and even I'm impressed at how much nicer it's gotten
[23:52] <Markdown1_> the thing that drove me to Xubuntu was its color scheme and awesome icons :P
[23:53] <Markdown1_> compared to Orange and whatnot others were using :P
[23:53] <Markdown1_> then I found out how both GTK and QT apps looks nice in Xubuntu.