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phoenix_firebrd | I am trying to upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04, I am getting a message "No new release found." | 00:11 |
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phoenix_firebrd | what should I do | 00:11 |
acheronuk | phoenix_firebrd: upgrades don't get enabled for a day or two. | 00:21 |
phoenix_firebrd | acheronuk: oh, ok | 00:23 |
silverfox | I have tried installing kubuntu 18.04 LTS 5 times( with and without secure boot ). After installation, it doesn't reboot. When I repower manually, and login, it freezes on the KDE logo. I have an alienware laptop with an nvidia gtx 1070. | 00:31 |
silverfox | Note, I manually partition /root as btrfs and /home as xfs. | 00:32 |
silverfox | and I'm doing minimal install | 00:35 |
ca_cabotage | so, just installed kubuntu 18.04 lts on my t430 - i get a black screen with a cursor on first bootup. i can Alt+F2 to get a search bar, open konsole then run plasmashell to be able to use it..... but wtf | 00:59 |
ca_cabotage | how can i get this install working properly | 00:59 |
valorie | !nomodeset | ca_cabotage | 01:43 |
ubottu | ca_cabotage: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 01:43 |
Markdown1_ | guys, is Kubuntu Upgrade (from older version) delayed? | 01:58 |
Markdown1_ | or is it live? | 01:58 |
valorie | you will get auto-updates in the next day or so | 02:04 |
valorie | they don't appear immediately | 02:04 |
Markdown1_ | no I mean is it delayed, someone was saying the upgrade was delayed due to bug. | 02:04 |
Markdown1_ | of Kubuntu I mean. | 02:04 |
valorie | the release has happened earlier | 02:06 |
valorie | see the /topic / | 02:06 |
valorie | err | 02:06 |
valorie | topic | 02:07 |
Kon- | Congratulations on the release, guys! Thanks for all your hard work today, and for the thought and effort put into this release over the last few months. | 02:22 |
valorie | thanks Kon- | 02:38 |
valorie | (not all of us guys) | 02:38 |
valorie | lol | 02:38 |
Dragnslcr | Guys and young ladies | 02:38 |
Kon- | All the men and women involved :) | 02:39 |
valorie | people, yeah | 02:39 |
valorie | :-) | 02:39 |
Kon- | I have to admit I almost always use "guys" as a gender neutral plural | 02:39 |
Markdown1_ | also all the Bots ヽ(ಠ_ಠ)ノ | 02:39 |
valorie | it is indeed a group effort | 02:39 |
valorie | Kon-: guys see it that way for sure | 02:40 |
valorie | haha | 02:40 |
valorie | the bots help too | 02:40 |
Kon- | haha | 02:40 |
valorie | !isitoutyet | 02:40 |
ubottu | Yes, it's out! Party in #ubuntu-release-party :) | 02:40 |
valorie | :-) | 02:40 |
Markdown1_ | Glückwunsch Leute | 02:44 |
user|91463 | I can not update to version 18.04, I have version 17.10. Neither Discover nor from console entering this command: kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE". It says there is no update. | 03:28 |
Markdown1_ | wait for couple of hours, the upgrade will be provided. | 03:29 |
user|91463 | it's regional problem? | 03:30 |
Markdown1_ | well the Server is under huge traffic right now :) | 03:30 |
Markdown1_ | give it some time | 03:30 |
user|91463 | ok thanks | 03:31 |
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ZetFury | I'm getting "no new release found." when I do do-release-upgrade (trying to upgrade to 18 lts), currently on 17.10 and release-upgrades set to normal, also tried lts | 06:04 |
ZetFury | anyone have same problem? | 06:04 |
acheronuk | ZetFury: https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-04-has-been-released/ | 06:21 |
acheronuk | "Upgrades will not be enabled immediately at release time. They will become available when the release team are happy with the final state of the archive for upgrades." | 06:21 |
KOLANICH | Hi everybody. Does kubuntu participate in standalone packages madness? I mean that ubuntu ships some of its packages as snaps, I wonder if kubuntu is plagued with this issue too? | 06:28 |
acheronuk | we don't have any snaps instaled by default, though snapd is there should you choose to do so yourself | 06:31 |
gg | is it true that kubuntu 18-04 is still in beta? | 06:43 |
acheronuk | no | 06:45 |
KOLANICH | acheronuk: thank you for the info | 06:50 |
ZetFury | acheronuk, thx for the info :) | 06:50 |
IrcsomeBot | katnip1 was added by: katnip1 | 06:53 |
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IrcsomeBot | <katnip1> https://www.zdnet.com/article/whats-the-most-popular-linux-of-them-all/ | 08:17 |
alket | guys, this release rocks, I love it like never before. Thanks for all of your hard work <3 | 08:50 |
acheronuk | alket: thanks. great to hear :) | 08:54 |
wal | mmmm flavour of kubuntuday is 18.04 | 09:02 |
weillisterd | Hello. I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 18.04 over 17.10 | 09:23 |
weillisterd | I formatted / but didn't format /home but instead directly pointed /home to the original home partition | 09:24 |
katnip | so it's not fresh :) | 09:25 |
weillisterd | Now I can't log in. when I try to log in it gets stuck stuck in the lock screen | 09:25 |
weillisterd | Oh I thought it was fresh because I didn't update from inside the installation | 09:25 |
onlyabyte | Hmm, Kubuntu LTS looks interesting. Comes with KDE 5.12 LTS which is interesting, perhaps Kubuntu will finally be super stable :D | 09:28 |
alterjsive | i've added the kubuntu backports ppa | 09:42 |
alterjsive | it | 09:43 |
alterjsive | it's quite unstable isn't it ? | 09:43 |
alterjsive | because it's cutting edge | 09:43 |
alterjsive | is there anywhere we can leave feedback if something breaks ? | 09:45 |
acheronuk | alterjsive: inherently backports are not going to have the same level of stability testing as our main archive packages, but we also don't go too far into unstable territory | 09:54 |
acheronuk | feedback can be on here, on our mailing lists, bugs filed against kubuntu-ppa etc | 09:55 |
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alterjsive | acheronuk: I didn't see any bugs listed on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports | 10:04 |
alterjsive | My sound stopped working | 10:06 |
alterjsive | my audio devices are no longer visable | 10:14 |
alterjsive | while `aplay -l` lists all the audio devices just fine. | 10:21 |
alterjsive | aplay -D plughw:1,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav works too | 10:24 |
alterjsive | pacmd says No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon. | 10:30 |
BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 10:40 |
alterjsive | pulseaudio logging: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hd75gtN39s/ | 10:47 |
just_need_the_ro | trying to update 17.10 to 18.04 (it's a vm) but now wired internet connection no longer working. followed these steps https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver | 10:56 |
just_need_the_ro | I am afraid the preparation steps broke some network setting. some old packages were removed | 10:57 |
just_need_the_ro | used sudo apt autoremove which was suggested to me | 10:57 |
just_need_the_ro | unsure how to get network setup back to working state. this is what I am seeing https://imgur.com/a/vsklw5X | 11:01 |
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alterjsive | I will try to upgrade to bionic instead | 11:08 |
just_need_the_ro | anybody any idea? | 11:11 |
hateball | just_need_the_ro: well I suppose make sure the kernel in bionic is compatible with whatever hypervisor you're using | 11:12 |
just_need_the_ro | hypervisor? | 11:13 |
hateball | the virtual machine software | 11:13 |
just_need_the_ro | is that something like google glass? ah ok | 11:13 |
hateball | lets say you use virtualbox, then it presents a virtual NIC to the virtual machine | 11:13 |
hateball | and if you switch kernels (like you do on upgrade) maybe there are incompatabilities | 11:13 |
just_need_the_ro | yeah the thing is I didn't even do the update | 11:14 |
just_need_the_ro | I just followed the preparation steps | 11:14 |
just_need_the_ro | so since it worked with 17.10 (currently running) I assume kernel is compatible with vm | 11:16 |
just_need_the_ro | but as mentioned kubuntu removed some things after that one command that was being proposed during preparatino | 11:16 |
just_need_the_ro | ah linux joys :) | 11:16 |
just_need_the_ro | so now I am stuck with 17.10 and no internet | 11:16 |
just_need_the_ro | hateball: any other ideas? | 11:21 |
hateball | just_need_the_ro: surely you took a snapshot of your VM before you started upgrading? | 11:22 |
just_need_the_ro | no, but maybe this is just the end of my linux experiment then? | 11:23 |
hateball | Probably not | 11:23 |
just_need_the_ro | so basically there's no way to get back to working state? | 11:23 |
hateball | just_need_the_ro: does the device show up at all? | 11:23 |
hateball | lshw -C network | 11:24 |
just_need_the_ro | which device? | 11:24 |
just_need_the_ro | ::1 ff02::1 ip6-allrouters ip6-loopback ubuntu | 11:24 |
just_need_the_ro | fe00::0 ff02::2 ip6-localhost ip6-mcastprefix<br /> | 11:24 |
just_need_the_ro | ff00::0 ip6-allnodes ip6-localnet localhost | 11:24 |
hateball | just_need_the_ro: thats no output you get from: | 11:29 |
hateball | lshw -C network | 11:29 |
hateball | anyhow I am a bit busy at work atm so I hope someone else joins and can help you | 11:30 |
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BluesKaj | just_need_the_ro, does the VM have separate / and /home? | 11:35 |
just_need_the_ro | BluesKaj: this is the output for the lshw command https://bin.disroot.org/?8e88163d751d9425#1z0S+0WZbooDNC8hH/IdqZpg0z+9AigQvls1iqnyliE= | 11:38 |
just_need_the_ro | BluesKaj: how would I check that? | 11:38 |
BluesKaj | just_need_the_ro, well you would have created them yourself, vms don't do that kind auto partitioning | 11:40 |
just_need_the_ro | then the answer is no | 11:40 |
BluesKaj | never used a vm that didn't have some kind of flaw, that's whyu I never use them | 11:41 |
just_need_the_ro | yeah but in this case the flaw is not in the vm software but in the update preparation steps of kubuntu | 11:41 |
hateball | just_need_the_ro: so the machine sees the interface, no issues there | 11:44 |
hateball | just_need_the_ro: what does ifconfig show ? | 11:44 |
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just_need_the_ro | hateball: https://bin.disroot.org/?624729cb038b0c60#03UtmoYeRPQNN7o/tqAYT1i4bIAbJtzQYt+nCg2VdjA= | 11:45 |
otomo | Hi!, it's normal that still today when I use kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE" | 11:45 |
otomo | says that there is no new version available | 11:46 |
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otomo | (I am using 17.10 and wanted to upgrade to 18.04) | 11:46 |
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BluesKaj | use the terminal and it's sudo do-release-upgrade | 11:53 |
BluesKaj | not kdesudo | 11:54 |
hateball | just_need_the_ro: can you do "sudo dhclient ens33" ? maybe it just lost its dhcp lease | 11:55 |
hateball | just_need_the_ro: or did you try rebooting the VM and the issue persisted? | 11:55 |
otomo | I just followed the instructions of the oficial Kubuntu webpage (also I used that commands in the past) | 11:55 |
otomo | I used sudo do-release-upgrade with the same results (obviusly) as do-release-upgrade -c says there is no new version | 11:57 |
just_need_the_ro | hateball: I tried that suggestion but no dice. yeah tried restarting the vm but still no connection. so you don't think something that's required got uninstalled? | 11:58 |
otomo | I am going to restart and check again | 11:58 |
just_need_the_ro | i switched to bridget instead of nat. not sure but now I got an internet connection | 11:59 |
just_need_the_ro | (in the vm settings) | 11:59 |
just_need_the_ro | so now back to 18.04 update: sudo do-release-upgrade says no new versions | 12:00 |
ZetFury | "Upgrades will not be enabled immediately at release time. They will become available when the release team are happy with the final state of the archive for upgrades." | 12:00 |
ZetFury | https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-04-has-been-released/ | 12:01 |
just_need_the_ro | aha, so can I force the update? | 12:02 |
ZetFury | no | 12:02 |
ZetFury | you need to wait | 12:02 |
ZetFury | appears to be no ETA at this moment | 12:02 |
just_need_the_ro | I find updates complicated. Why Is there no UI option offering this as download and user can device update yes no | 12:02 |
just_need_the_ro | ok, so I will be auto updated whenever kubuntu overlords think it's ready? | 12:03 |
ZetFury | I think there is, not sure what it's called, I use terminal | 12:03 |
just_need_the_ro | yeah console is installed and then? | 12:03 |
ZetFury | if you havent changed anything from default i think you will get a notification in bottom right corner of screen | 12:03 |
ZetFury | when you can update/upgrade | 12:03 |
hateball | That is correct | 12:04 |
just_need_the_ro | ok cool | 12:04 |
just_need_the_ro | I'll read a book till then | 12:04 |
just_need_the_ro | thanks for your help hateball ZetFury BluesKaj :) | 12:04 |
rwb | How do I get rid of that notes program in plazma? I can't even close the windows it makes. I don't want sticky notes on my desktop. | 12:07 |
node1_ | kill? | 12:08 |
rwb | it seems to come back. I want to totally un install it, but I'm not sure I know the name of the package. | 12:09 |
hateball | just_need_the_ro: good luck :) | 12:09 |
hateball | rwb: longpress on a sticky note to get the menu | 12:10 |
hateball | then you can remove | 12:10 |
hateball | longclick/press | 12:10 |
just_need_the_ro | hateball: well sudo do-release-upgrade -d does the trick and pulls the development version | 12:10 |
rwb | Thanks! | 12:10 |
hateball | rwb: it is highly unintuitive imo :D | 12:14 |
hateball | I think it was designed that was with plasma mobile in mind | 12:14 |
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cacho | hola | 13:51 |
bnk | hi..is there a way to add shortcut keys to programs thru the command line? | 15:19 |
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Atomix2 | Hey, I'm having an issue with my audio. Setting the master volume to 0, heapdhone to 0, and PCM to 100 still outputs audio through the headphones | 16:13 |
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low_tower | Hello all. Even if Kubuntu 18.04 is it recommended to wait until it appears in Muon/Discover to do an upgrade from 17.10 and not to force it? Thank you! | 17:34 |
krytarik | low_tower: Yes, I'd do so - should be a matter of only days. | 17:42 |
instoogentall | hello everyone, just installed Kubuntu 18.04 | 17:46 |
instoogentall | what's the best way to install dropbox on it? | 17:46 |
instoogentall | on discover there's only nautilus and caja options, and it seems that the deb provided by dropbox is also for nautilus | 17:46 |
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Arthur_D | hi, I'm having trouble with WiFi on a Clevo W840SU, it doesn't seem to find the network card at all. It does find the Ethernet, and I'm currently using my phone to get a connection. Any ideas? I've tried 'rfkill unblock all' but it did not help | 18:07 |
diogenes_ | Arthur_D, sudo lspci -nnk | grep Net -A3 | 18:09 |
diogenes_ | what does it show | 18:09 |
Arthur_D | gives me no output | 18:09 |
diogenes_ | so it's a desktop pc? | 18:10 |
Arthur_D | no, a laptop | 18:10 |
diogenes_ | has it ever worked under linux? | 18:11 |
Arthur_D | yes, my brother has used Kubuntu with it before, but now with 18.04 nothing | 18:11 |
Arthur_D | everything else seems to work, just no WiFi | 18:12 |
diogenes_ | i'd suggest to boot into live cd mode and check if it works in there | 18:12 |
Arthur_D | well I did try before installing, and it did not work there, but I figured maybe it missed some firmware or so | 18:13 |
diogenes_ | u said it worked before so how it worked then? | 18:14 |
Arthur_D | it worked ootb | 18:14 |
Arthur_D | he says he sometimes needed to reboot to get it to work, but I've tried that several times, also with a live USB a couple times | 18:15 |
Arthur_D | maybe just the chip died or something | 18:15 |
diogenes_ | go to bios and see maybe it's disabled | 18:16 |
Arthur_D | tried checking there earlier but I only found some UEFI network thing, I installed using legacy BIOS mode. Turning it on means I no longer can boot into the system | 18:18 |
Arthur_D | so I think it's only some PXE network boot but not entirely sure | 18:18 |
Arthur_D | Arch wiki has a page btw: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Clevo_W840SU but it says nothing about WiFi | 18:19 |
diogenes_ | i'd disconnect the ac charger and remove the battery, then i'd disassemble the pc and see if i can remove the wifi from the board and then reconnect it BUT you do it only if you know what you're doing, otherwise don't go in there | 18:21 |
Arthur_D | hmm maybe I'll just keep my phone tethered to it instead | 18:22 |
Arthur_D | thanks for the suggestions | 18:22 |
diogenes_ | use cable or buy a wifi dongle for 15 dollars and u will be fine | 18:23 |
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meena | Hello happy people o/~ | 19:03 |
meena | I made a huge mistake. | 19:03 |
ZetFury | you installed windows? | 19:05 |
meena | I just upgraded to bionic, and my plasmashell is pegged at 100%CPU (in user-space, from what i gather from `perf top`) - can't tell what it's really doing, because there are no debug symbols available for it. | 19:05 |
meena | i think it's just popping spinning on futex_wait() | 19:06 |
meena | my laptop's CPU is not happy. | 19:06 |
meena | oh, and the compose key doesn't work on wayland (i'm using wayland, because it uses marginally less CPU) | 19:10 |
viewer|73947 | Hello, I just wanted the kubuntu Web team know, that on the Alternativ Download page (https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads) the link to the "HowToSHA256SUM" is not set. I guess this should point to the ubuntu help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM | 19:15 |
acheronuk | viewer|73947: lemme look | 19:28 |
meena | i mean. i don't really need plasmashell, right? | 19:30 |
meena | wow, my cpu is so much happier after pkill plasmashell. | 19:30 |
meena | i;d really love to know how to debug this issue. | 19:38 |
meena | how do i get ahold of a kde dev?? | 19:38 |
meena | let's start with `plasmashell -d` | 19:40 |
BluesKaj | meena, my pasmashell doesn't register a percentage cpu load, so you must have something else using up the cpu | 19:40 |
meena | yeah, i'm suspecting that too, that's why i'm hoping that --qmljsdebugger will reveal something | 19:43 |
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BluesKaj | meena, you can check in system monitor | 19:54 |
meena | BluesKaj: how's that different from top? | 19:56 |
meena | BluesKaj: and anyway, after restarting it with -d, it's not on top anymore. so. i'm somehow suspecting some (q)dbus issue | 19:57 |
meena | okay, system monitor is prettier than top. fair enough. | 19:59 |
meena | except, i can't configure which things i see - so no view on which CPU core a process is pegging or if it's being scheduled between them, and no view into which function it's paused on, etc. | 20:02 |
meena | ```kf5idletime_kwayland: This plugin does not support polling idle time``` <- there's some irony here that i'm not getting, huh. | 20:03 |
BluesKaj | meena, if you shut plasma down you won't see all the optioons I'm sure | 20:12 |
meena | BluesKaj: this is output from plasmashell --qmljsdebugger | 20:12 |
BluesKaj | anyway have to go .. | 20:12 |
meena | o/~ nighty night | 20:13 |
meena | i really like the new icons 💜 | 20:58 |
meena | oh, look! once i re-enable ddebs.ubuntu.com, i can suddenly find plasma-workspace-dbgsym! | 22:20 |
meena | please someone shoot me into the sun and fire me from computer. | 22:20 |
Unit193 | Can't say I find that super surprising to find dbgsym packages on ddebs. :> | 22:20 |
Unit193 | Although, new with bionic... | 22:21 |
Unit193 | !info ubuntu-dbgsym-keyring | 22:21 |
ubottu | Package ubuntu-dbgsym-keyring does not exist in artful | 22:21 |
Unit193 | !info ubuntu-dbgsym-keyring bionic | 22:21 |
ubottu | ubuntu-dbgsym-keyring (source: ubuntu-keyring): GnuPG keys of the Ubuntu Debug Symbols Archive. In component universe, is optional. Version 2018.02.28 (bionic), package size 7 kB, installed size 23 kB | 22:21 |
honoo | I can't seem to see the global menu bar/titlebar menu in Kubuntu 18.04. | 22:32 |
honoo | I have tried to enable and disable these options a few times in system settings as well as enabling and disabling the relevant plasma widget to no avail, and I have resetted my Plasma settings. | 22:34 |
honoo | So far I have no luck. Parsing qdbus org.kde.kappmenuview through the terminal while I have the widget active seems to show that it is active, but I don't see it working. | 22:36 |
honoo | What other steps am I missing? | 22:36 |
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