[00:11] <phoenix_firebrd> I am trying to upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04, I am getting a message "No new release found."
[00:11] <phoenix_firebrd> what should I do
[00:21] <acheronuk> phoenix_firebrd: upgrades don't get enabled for a day or two.
[00:23] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: oh, ok
[00:31] <silverfox> I have tried installing kubuntu 18.04 LTS 5 times( with and without secure boot ).  After installation, it doesn't reboot.  When I repower manually, and login, it freezes on the KDE logo.  I have an alienware laptop with an nvidia gtx 1070.
[00:32] <silverfox> Note, I manually partition /root as btrfs and /home as xfs.
[00:35] <silverfox> and I'm doing minimal install
[00:59] <ca_cabotage> so, just installed kubuntu 18.04 lts on my t430 - i get a black screen with a cursor on first bootup. i can Alt+F2 to get a search bar, open konsole then run plasmashell to be able to use it..... but wtf
[00:59] <ca_cabotage> how can i get this install working properly
[01:43] <valorie> !nomodeset | ca_cabotage
[01:58] <Markdown1_> guys, is Kubuntu Upgrade (from older version) delayed?
[01:58] <Markdown1_> or is it live?
[02:04] <valorie> you will get auto-updates in the next day or so
[02:04] <valorie> they don't appear immediately
[02:04] <Markdown1_> no I mean is it delayed, someone was saying the upgrade was delayed due to bug.
[02:04] <Markdown1_> of Kubuntu I mean.
[02:06] <valorie> the release has happened earlier
[02:06] <valorie> see the /topic /
[02:06] <valorie> err
[02:07] <valorie> topic
[02:22] <Kon-> Congratulations on the release, guys! Thanks for all your hard work today, and for the thought and effort put into this release over the last few months.
[02:38] <valorie> thanks Kon-
[02:38] <valorie> (not all of us guys)
[02:38] <valorie> lol
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> Guys and young ladies
[02:39] <Kon-> All the men and women involved :)
[02:39] <valorie> people, yeah
[02:39] <valorie> :-)
[02:39] <Kon-> I have to admit I almost always use "guys" as a gender neutral plural
[02:39] <Markdown1_> also all the Bots ヽ(ಠ_ಠ)ノ
[02:39] <valorie> it is indeed a group effort
[02:40] <valorie> Kon-: guys see it that way for sure
[02:40] <valorie> haha
[02:40] <valorie> the bots help too
[02:40] <Kon-> haha
[02:40] <valorie> !isitoutyet
[02:40] <valorie> :-)
[02:44] <Markdown1_> Glückwunsch Leute
[03:28] <user|91463> I can not update to version 18.04, I have version 17.10. Neither Discover nor from console entering this command: kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE". It says there is no update.
[03:29] <Markdown1_> wait for couple of hours, the upgrade will be provided.
[03:30] <user|91463> it's regional problem?
[03:30] <Markdown1_> well the Server is under huge traffic right now :)
[03:30] <Markdown1_> give it some time
[03:31] <user|91463> ok thanks
[06:04] <ZetFury> I'm getting "no new release found." when I do do-release-upgrade (trying to upgrade to 18 lts), currently on 17.10 and release-upgrades set to normal, also tried lts
[06:04] <ZetFury> anyone have same problem?
[06:21] <acheronuk> ZetFury: https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-04-has-been-released/
[06:21] <acheronuk> "Upgrades will not be enabled immediately at release time. They will become available when the release team are happy with the final state of the archive for upgrades."
[06:28] <KOLANICH> Hi everybody. Does kubuntu participate in standalone packages madness? I mean that ubuntu ships some of its packages as snaps, I wonder if kubuntu is plagued with this issue too?
[06:31] <acheronuk> we don't have any snaps instaled by default, though snapd is there should you choose to do so yourself
[06:43] <gg> is it true that kubuntu 18-04 is still in beta?
[06:45] <acheronuk> no
[06:50] <KOLANICH> acheronuk: thank you for the info
[06:50] <ZetFury> acheronuk, thx for the info :)
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[08:50] <alket> guys, this release rocks, I love it like never before. Thanks for all of your hard work <3
[08:54] <acheronuk> alket: thanks. great to hear :)
[09:02] <wal> mmmm flavour of kubuntuday is 18.04
[09:23] <weillisterd> Hello. I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 18.04 over 17.10
[09:24] <weillisterd> I formatted / but didn't format /home but instead directly pointed /home to the original home partition
[09:25] <katnip> so it's not fresh :)
[09:25] <weillisterd> Now I can't log in. when I try to log in it gets stuck stuck in the lock screen
[09:25] <weillisterd> Oh I thought it was fresh because I didn't update from inside the installation
[09:28] <onlyabyte> Hmm, Kubuntu LTS looks interesting. Comes with KDE 5.12 LTS which is interesting, perhaps Kubuntu will finally be super stable :D
[09:42] <alterjsive> i've added the kubuntu backports ppa
[09:43] <alterjsive> it
[09:43] <alterjsive> it's quite unstable isn't it ?
[09:43] <alterjsive> because it's cutting edge
[09:45] <alterjsive> is there anywhere we can leave feedback if something breaks ?
[09:54] <acheronuk> alterjsive: inherently backports are not going to have the same level of stability testing as our main archive packages, but we also don't go too far into unstable territory
[09:55] <acheronuk> feedback can be on here, on our mailing lists, bugs filed against kubuntu-ppa etc
[10:04] <alterjsive> acheronuk: I didn't see any bugs listed on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[10:06] <alterjsive> My sound stopped working
[10:14] <alterjsive> my audio devices are no longer visable
[10:21] <alterjsive> while `aplay -l` lists all the audio devices just fine.
[10:24] <alterjsive> aplay -D plughw:1,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav works too
[10:30] <alterjsive> pacmd  says No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.
[10:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:47] <alterjsive> pulseaudio logging: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hd75gtN39s/
[10:56] <just_need_the_ro> trying to update 17.10 to 18.04 (it's a vm) but now wired internet connection no longer working. followed these steps https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver
[10:57] <just_need_the_ro> I am afraid the preparation steps broke some network setting. some old packages were removed
[10:57] <just_need_the_ro> used sudo apt autoremove which was suggested to me
[11:01] <just_need_the_ro> unsure how to get network setup back to working state. this is what I am seeing https://imgur.com/a/vsklw5X
[11:08] <alterjsive> I will try to upgrade to bionic instead
[11:11] <just_need_the_ro> anybody any idea?
[11:12] <hateball> just_need_the_ro: well I suppose make sure the kernel in bionic is compatible with whatever hypervisor you're using
[11:13] <just_need_the_ro> hypervisor?
[11:13] <hateball> the virtual machine software
[11:13] <just_need_the_ro> is that something like google glass? ah ok
[11:13] <hateball> lets say you use virtualbox, then it presents a virtual NIC to the virtual machine
[11:13] <hateball> and if you switch kernels (like you do on upgrade) maybe there are incompatabilities
[11:14] <just_need_the_ro> yeah the thing is I didn't even do the update
[11:14] <just_need_the_ro> I just followed the preparation steps
[11:16] <just_need_the_ro> so since it worked with 17.10 (currently running) I assume kernel is compatible with vm
[11:16] <just_need_the_ro> but as mentioned kubuntu removed some things after that one command that was being proposed during preparatino
[11:16] <just_need_the_ro> ah linux joys :)
[11:16] <just_need_the_ro> so now I am stuck with 17.10 and no internet
[11:21] <just_need_the_ro> hateball: any other ideas?
[11:22] <hateball> just_need_the_ro: surely you took a snapshot of your VM before you started upgrading?
[11:23] <just_need_the_ro> no, but maybe this is just the end of my linux experiment then?
[11:23] <hateball> Probably not
[11:23] <just_need_the_ro> so basically there's no way to get back to working state?
[11:23] <hateball> just_need_the_ro: does the device show up at all?
[11:24] <hateball> lshw -C network
[11:24] <just_need_the_ro> which device?
[11:24] <just_need_the_ro> ::1              ff02::1          ip6-allrouters   ip6-loopback     ubuntu
[11:24] <just_need_the_ro> fe00::0          ff02::2          ip6-localhost    ip6-mcastprefix<br />
[11:24] <just_need_the_ro> ff00::0          ip6-allnodes     ip6-localnet     localhost
[11:29] <hateball> just_need_the_ro: thats no output you get from:
[11:29] <hateball> lshw -C network
[11:30] <hateball> anyhow I am a bit busy at work atm so I hope someone else joins and can help you
[11:35] <BluesKaj> just_need_the_ro, does the VM have separate / and /home?
[11:38] <just_need_the_ro> BluesKaj: this is the output for the lshw command https://bin.disroot.org/?8e88163d751d9425#1z0S+0WZbooDNC8hH/IdqZpg0z+9AigQvls1iqnyliE=
[11:38] <just_need_the_ro> BluesKaj: how would I check that?
[11:40] <BluesKaj> just_need_the_ro, well you would have created them yourself, vms don't do that kind auto partitioning
[11:40] <just_need_the_ro> then the answer is no
[11:41] <BluesKaj> never used a vm that didn't have some kind of flaw, that's whyu I never use them
[11:41] <just_need_the_ro> yeah but in this case the flaw is not in the vm software but in the update preparation steps of kubuntu
[11:44] <hateball> just_need_the_ro: so the machine sees the interface, no issues there
[11:44] <hateball> just_need_the_ro: what does ifconfig show ?
[11:45] <just_need_the_ro> hateball: https://bin.disroot.org/?624729cb038b0c60#03UtmoYeRPQNN7o/tqAYT1i4bIAbJtzQYt+nCg2VdjA=
[11:45] <otomo> Hi!, it's normal that still today when I use kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE"
[11:46] <otomo> says that there is no new version available
[11:46] <otomo> (I am using 17.10 and wanted to upgrade to 18.04)
[11:53] <BluesKaj> use the terminal and it's sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:54] <BluesKaj> not kdesudo
[11:55] <hateball> just_need_the_ro: can you do "sudo dhclient ens33" ? maybe it just lost its dhcp lease
[11:55] <hateball> just_need_the_ro: or did you try rebooting the VM and the issue persisted?
[11:55] <otomo> I just followed the instructions of the oficial Kubuntu webpage (also I used that commands in the past)
[11:57] <otomo> I used sudo do-release-upgrade with the same results (obviusly) as do-release-upgrade -c  says there is no new version
[11:58] <just_need_the_ro> hateball: I tried that suggestion but no dice. yeah tried restarting the vm but still no connection. so you don't think something that's required got uninstalled?
[11:58] <otomo> I am going to restart  and check again
[11:59] <just_need_the_ro> i switched to bridget instead of nat. not sure but now I got an internet connection
[11:59] <just_need_the_ro> (in the vm settings)
[12:00] <just_need_the_ro> so now back to 18.04 update: sudo do-release-upgrade says no new versions
[12:00] <ZetFury> "Upgrades will not be enabled immediately at release time. They will become available when the release team are happy with the final state of the archive for upgrades."
[12:01] <ZetFury> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-04-has-been-released/
[12:02] <just_need_the_ro> aha, so can I force the update?
[12:02] <ZetFury> no
[12:02] <ZetFury> you need to wait
[12:02] <ZetFury> appears to be no ETA at this moment
[12:02] <just_need_the_ro> I find updates complicated. Why Is there no UI option offering this as download and user can device update yes no
[12:03] <just_need_the_ro> ok, so I will be auto updated whenever kubuntu overlords think it's ready?
[12:03] <ZetFury> I think there is, not sure what it's called, I use terminal
[12:03] <just_need_the_ro> yeah console is installed and then?
[12:03] <ZetFury> if you havent changed anything from default i think you will get a notification in bottom right corner of screen
[12:03] <ZetFury> when you can update/upgrade
[12:04] <hateball> That is correct
[12:04] <just_need_the_ro> ok cool
[12:04] <just_need_the_ro> I'll read a book till then
[12:04] <just_need_the_ro> thanks for your help hateball  ZetFury  BluesKaj  :)
[12:07] <rwb> How do I get rid of that notes program in plazma?  I can't even close the windows it makes.  I don't want sticky notes on my desktop.
[12:08] <node1_> kill?
[12:09] <rwb> it seems to come back.  I want to totally un install it, but I'm not sure I know the name of the package.
[12:09] <hateball> just_need_the_ro: good luck :)
[12:10] <hateball> rwb: longpress on a sticky note to get the menu
[12:10] <hateball> then you can remove
[12:10] <hateball> longclick/press
[12:10] <just_need_the_ro> hateball: well  sudo do-release-upgrade -d does the trick and pulls the development version
[12:10] <rwb> Thanks!
[12:14] <hateball> rwb: it is highly unintuitive imo :D
[12:14] <hateball> I think it was designed that was with plasma mobile in mind
[13:51] <cacho> hola
[15:19] <bnk> hi..is there a way to add shortcut keys to programs thru the command line?
[16:13] <Atomix2> Hey, I'm having an issue with my audio.  Setting the master volume to 0, heapdhone to 0, and PCM to 100 still outputs audio through the headphones
[17:34] <low_tower> Hello all. Even if Kubuntu 18.04 is it recommended to wait until it appears in Muon/Discover to do an upgrade from 17.10 and not to force it? Thank you!
[17:42] <krytarik> low_tower: Yes, I'd do so - should be a matter of only days.
[17:46] <instoogentall> hello everyone, just installed Kubuntu 18.04
[17:46] <instoogentall> what's the best way to install dropbox on it?
[17:46] <instoogentall> on discover there's only nautilus and caja options, and it seems that the deb provided by dropbox is also for nautilus
[18:07] <Arthur_D> hi, I'm having trouble with WiFi on a Clevo W840SU, it doesn't seem to find the network card at all. It does find the Ethernet, and I'm currently using my phone to get a connection. Any ideas? I've tried 'rfkill unblock all' but it did not help
[18:09] <diogenes_> Arthur_D, sudo lspci -nnk | grep Net -A3
[18:09] <diogenes_> what does it show
[18:09] <Arthur_D> gives me no output
[18:10] <diogenes_> so it's a desktop pc?
[18:10] <Arthur_D> no, a laptop
[18:11] <diogenes_> has it ever worked under linux?
[18:11] <Arthur_D> yes, my brother has used Kubuntu with it before, but now with 18.04 nothing
[18:12] <Arthur_D> everything else seems to work, just no WiFi
[18:12] <diogenes_> i'd suggest to boot into live cd mode and check if it works in there
[18:13] <Arthur_D> well I did try before installing, and it did not work there, but I figured maybe it missed some firmware or so
[18:14] <diogenes_> u said it worked before so how it worked then?
[18:14] <Arthur_D> it worked ootb
[18:15] <Arthur_D> he says he sometimes needed to reboot to get it to work, but I've tried that several times, also with a live USB a couple times
[18:15] <Arthur_D> maybe just the chip died or something
[18:16] <diogenes_> go to bios and see maybe it's disabled
[18:18] <Arthur_D> tried checking there earlier but I only found some UEFI network thing, I installed using legacy BIOS mode. Turning it on means I no longer can boot into the system
[18:18] <Arthur_D> so I think it's only some PXE network boot but not entirely sure
[18:19] <Arthur_D> Arch wiki has a page btw: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Clevo_W840SU but it says nothing about WiFi
[18:21] <diogenes_> i'd disconnect the ac charger and remove the battery, then i'd disassemble the pc and see if i can remove the wifi from the board and then reconnect it BUT you do it only if you know what you're doing, otherwise don't go in there
[18:22] <Arthur_D> hmm maybe I'll just keep my phone tethered to it instead
[18:22] <Arthur_D> thanks for the suggestions
[18:23] <diogenes_> use cable or buy a wifi dongle for 15 dollars and u will be fine
[19:03] <meena> Hello happy people o/~
[19:03] <meena> I made a huge mistake.
[19:05] <ZetFury> you installed windows?
[19:05] <meena> I just upgraded to bionic, and my plasmashell is pegged at 100%CPU (in user-space, from what i gather from `perf top`) - can't tell what it's really doing, because there are no debug symbols available for it.
[19:06] <meena> i think it's just popping spinning on futex_wait()
[19:06] <meena> my laptop's CPU is not happy.
[19:10] <meena> oh, and the compose key doesn't work on wayland (i'm using wayland, because it uses marginally less CPU)
[19:15] <viewer|73947> Hello, I just wanted the kubuntu Web team know, that on the Alternativ Download page (https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads) the link to the "HowToSHA256SUM" is not set. I guess this should point to the ubuntu help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM
[19:28] <acheronuk> viewer|73947: lemme look
[19:30] <meena> i mean. i don't really need plasmashell, right?
[19:30] <meena> wow, my cpu is so much happier after pkill plasmashell.
[19:38] <meena> i;d really love to know how to debug this issue.
[19:38] <meena> how do i get ahold of a kde dev??
[19:40] <meena> let's start with `plasmashell -d`
[19:40] <BluesKaj> meena, my pasmashell doesn't register a percentage cpu load, so you must have something else using up the cpu
[19:43] <meena> yeah, i'm suspecting that too, that's why i'm hoping that --qmljsdebugger will reveal something
[19:54] <BluesKaj> meena, you can check in system monitor
[19:56] <meena> BluesKaj: how's that different from top?
[19:57] <meena> BluesKaj: and anyway, after restarting it with -d, it's not on top anymore. so. i'm somehow suspecting some (q)dbus issue
[19:59] <meena> okay, system monitor is prettier than  top. fair enough.
[20:02] <meena> except, i can't configure which things i see - so no view on which CPU core a process is pegging or if it's being scheduled between them, and no view into which function it's paused on, etc.
[20:03] <meena> ```kf5idletime_kwayland: This plugin does not support polling idle time``` <- there's some irony here that i'm not getting, huh.
[20:12] <BluesKaj> meena, if you shut plasma down you won't see all the optioons I'm sure
[20:12] <meena> BluesKaj: this is output from plasmashell --qmljsdebugger
[20:12] <BluesKaj> anyway  have to go ..
[20:13] <meena> o/~ nighty night
[20:58] <meena> i really like the new icons 💜
[22:20] <meena> oh, look! once i re-enable ddebs.ubuntu.com, i can suddenly find plasma-workspace-dbgsym!
[22:20] <meena> please someone shoot me into the sun and fire me from computer.
[22:20] <Unit193> Can't say I find that super surprising to find dbgsym packages on ddebs. :>
[22:21] <Unit193> Although, new with bionic...
[22:21] <Unit193> !info ubuntu-dbgsym-keyring
[22:21] <Unit193> !info ubuntu-dbgsym-keyring bionic
[22:32] <honoo> I can't seem to see the global menu bar/titlebar menu in Kubuntu 18.04.
[22:34] <honoo> I have tried to enable and disable these options a few times in system settings as well as enabling and disabling the relevant plasma widget to no avail, and I have resetted my Plasma settings.
[22:36] <honoo> So far I have no luck. Parsing qdbus org.kde.kappmenuview through the terminal while I have the widget active seems to show that it is active, but I don't see it working.
[22:36] <honoo> What other steps am I missing?