[00:18] <ubptgbot> amavis442 was added by: amavis442
 Welcome @amavis442 !  This is a link most newcomers appreciate so I hope this helps you too … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[01:11] <ubptgbot> Pietia was added by: Pietia
 @Pietia, Welcome, Pietia! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in the Welcome & Install room! 🙂
 Thanks guys! :) Hi, I check it out while looking for an alternative to test in my old Samsung Galaxy Ace 2, but I think it wouldn't work out, right? ;)
 @Pietia, Unfortunately not. You could attempt to port UT to it if you have the time an an extra phone, however! 🙂
[02:55] <ubptgbot> jeabalos was added by: jeabalos
[03:34] <ubptgbot> <Finn Riordan> Question: I have an old LG K7. Would I be able to install Ubuntu touch?
 @Finn Riordan, I don't believe so. Check the supported devices on the site. You could start porting it yourself if you desired.
 Is there any official porting links or videos available? For snapdragon chips
[06:08] <ubptgbot> Cédric was added by: Cédric
 hello dudes, … i plan to buy a used phone and install ubport. do you recommend one of the supported devices most? how about battery life in general? will the experience be as smooth as using android or will it be a pain in the a**?
 @Cédric, Probably nexus 5 is your best choice if you want everything it can offer
 @samzn, is the hardware still powerfull enough? i dont need to play games and stuff, just call people and use the browser...
 Ya, I use it daily
 The sd800’s still a beast
 @SRIDHARDV, https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 @Cédric, This is the list of supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices Depending on your budget and which one it's easier to buy for you, the answer may be different
 My daily driver is a Nexus 5, stable channel
 @samzn, i will buy it too
 thx dudes
[07:39] <ubptgbot> Sandeepa Dilshan was added by: Sandeepa Dilshan
[07:41] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> Can you make Ubuntu touch os for huawei media pad t1 8.0(S8-701u)?
[07:41] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> I love ubuntu
 @Sandeepa Dilshan, Hi Sandeepa, welcome. See http://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started
 @Sandeepa Dilshan, This is the list of supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
[07:42] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> Plz make that touch Ubuntu os
 It's not a question of willingness, porting is a complex task as you can see here https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html Ubports is a volunteer based project, not a company
[07:44] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> Ooo thanx
[07:44] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> To what company , would I say it?
 There's no such company for now
 Canonical was "the" company, they abandoned the project, and now "we" are trying to keep the torch lit
[07:47] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> Good
 @advocatux, And doing an excellent job keeping lit by the way! Thanks guys and gals?
[07:48] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> Are you in other groups?
 Are you asking Ismail or me?
[07:49] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> You
 Sorry, I don't understand what you're asking exactly
[07:50] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> I mean what are the groups which I can learn linux
 This is OT in this group but... do you want to learn how to user Linux as a user, as an administrator, as an developer... ?
 [Edit] This is OT in this group but... do you want to learn how to user Linux as a user, as an administrator, as a developer... ?
 [Edit] This is OT in this group but... do you want to learn how to use Linux as a user, as an administrator, as a developer... ?
[07:53] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> As an administrator
 There are thousands of recourses in Internet for that. Look for "Linux System Administrator" using your favorite search engine ;)
 v.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration
[07:59] <ubptgbot> <Sandeepa Dilshan> Thanx
 You're welcome
 @advocatux, Thank you
 👍
[08:10] <ubptgbot> xandrosdarkstorm was added by: xandrosdarkstorm
[08:15] <ubptgbot> ankaos was added by: ankaos
 👍
 Hi, welcome @xandrosdarkstorm & @ankaos. See http://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 is there any community build UT port for Xiomi Note 3 ?
 @Jishnurajm, Hi Jishnu, what's the codename for that device? hennessy? I don't think there's any community port for that yet
 @advocatux, hennessy or kenzo I,m not sure
 I've searched it for you. Note 3 is hennessy, and Note 3 Pro is kenzo :)
 It's actually "jason"
 here's the reference http://en.miui.com/thread-252582-1-1.html
 Seems that Cancro is the only one receiving attention
 @advocatux, mm
 @jeabalos, lol I always consult that list but this time I looked the info here http://en.miui.com/thread-225849-1-1.html My bad. Sorry!
 Anyway, no community port for any of them
 oh my bad
 ow, that's sad. My test device is also Xiaomi (Mi 5).
 There's people working in porting to Halium these https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+xiaomi
 here most of them are using MI, but no ports are available
 @advocatux, Halium? Is it not Helium?
 Nope
 @advocatux, ok
 Anyway, I'm seeing the source of confussion in your list. There are Mi devices and Redmi devices
 hennessy                             | Redmi Note 3 (MTK)
 | jason                                    |Mi Note 3
 Maybe we just need to buy the supported devices haha.
 Halium is a word play with HAL
 I'm sorry I can't do that...
 @advocatux, Redmi is different from Mi. Redmi are cheaper versions of xiaomi devices.
 @JasonMD, 😂
 Everyone knows why he was called right?
 HAL
 @jeabalos, but @Jishnurajm asked for "Xiomi Note 3". Is that a Mi or a Redmi phone?
 Mi
 Ok, thank you
 XIOMI REDMI NOTE 3
 @Jishnurajm, example from samsung:  … 👍
 😁
 example from samsung to xaiomi:  … Galaxy devices = Xiaomi, and Galaxy Duos = Xiaomi Redmi
 So it's a Redmi not a Mi phone? lol I need a break
 They are just different versions of device from Xiaomi haha
 As Je said, Mi = Premium Redmi = Cheaper
 @JasonMD, indeed!
 The Redmi's are very competitively priced
 @JasonMD, Fine but what is that device codename then?
 @advocatux, for Mi Note 3? its jason.
 yeah and for Redmi Note 3 is hennessy
 (Photo, 349x30) https://irc.ubports.com/8C47vGGW.png
 Are you sure? Both a Mi and a Redmi version exist...
 @advocatux, correct!
 yes
 @JasonMD, yes
 ok there we go, confusing naming huh?
 hahaha
 Fwd from Jishnurajm: XIOMI REDMI NOTE 3
 and they really churn them out too...
 I understand now why nobody is working on those devices 😂
 They are constantly releasing new models
 Mind you Song ans Samsung seem to do quite similar
 Sony
 @advocatux, 😅
 very confusing haha
[09:18] <ulrichard> This was asked probably before. Can I adjust the repository address somewhere from canonical to ubports. That way I hope to upgrade without reflashing my device and loose all my settings.
 @ulrichard, You can reflash without wiping the device and your data should be preserved, but you should back up just in case something goes awry
 No, you have to reflash. But you don't need to lose your settings. Backup is a good precaution (but I didn't use mine).
[09:24] <ulrichard> Ok, thanks. I will try it then...
 Has anyone tried UBports on any Huawei device?
 [Edit] Has anyone tried UBports on any Huawei device? … I want to try it on a Huawei P9
 @Ismail_ibn_Thomas_Al_Amreeki, It would have to be ported. Best to start by reading about the Halium project
 @Stereofont, Thanks @Stereofont
 @Stereofont, [Edit] Thanks
 This? https://halium.org/
 Yes, that
 Also, can I install and run Python 2/3 and Java on UBports phone?
 Mostly yes. (It isn't a desktop, so there are limitations you'll need to work within/around.)
[10:23] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> I have a channel about Nokia)
[10:23] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> (Photo, 600x559) https://irc.ubports.com/vY0LXHwM.png Это Nokia X (2018) … This is Nokia X (2018) … #Nokianews
 does it run ubuntu?
[10:24] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @rogieroudshoorn, Unfortennely, no
 @Павел Алексеев, You should stop promoting your channels. You've been banned in Sailfish group already
 So no lesson learned
 Also stop lying with your "Unofficial, but the most active channel on Ubuntu and Ubuntu Touch. …  News, facts, guide on Ubuntu and Ubuntu Touch"
[10:46] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @advocatux, what is the lie?
[10:47] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> Unofficial channel, but the most active
 Yeah, most active in your town
 Anyway, no more OT here
 This is the most active channel. Period.
[10:49] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @advocatux, what active channels Pro Ubuntu still there is?
 I repeat, no more OT here, please
[10:49] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @advocatux, This is chat, not channel
 Can someone just ban this guy?
 +1
[10:51] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @alan_griffiths, Why? I have Ubuntu device, i love Ubuntu
 For spamming
[10:52] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @advocatux, Why you are evil?!
[10:53] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> Ok, i deleted item about Nokia channel
 Good first step
 Second one can be to retire your insult
 and to apologize
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/zyg9yqfP.webp
[10:56] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @advocatux, what insult did you see in my post?
 OK, no more OT, please
 or you'll be banned
[10:57] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @advocatux, for what?
 @Павел Алексеев, Can you imagine what this channel would be like if 10% subscribers behaved in the unsocial way you do?
 @Павел Алексеев, [Edit] Can you imagine what this channel would be like if 10% of subscribers behaved in the unsocial way you do?
 New update for Signal is out! Thank you, Aaron Kimmig !
[12:02] <ubptgbot> vanyasem was added by: vanyasem
 Welcome @vanyasem! You can check out... Oh wait
 @IvanSemkin[m], i was there this whole time, just from Matrix
 oh and i lied about that "permanently" thing
 @amolith, what's the package name for the `pipes` thingie?
 @vanyasem, It's should be pipes. Let me check
 maybe bash-pipes
 @amolith, this, thanks
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/bash-pipes/
 works in ZSH. misleading name
 I know. I use zsh
 Did anyone notice that we just passed 1500 people?
 I did
 well then.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/yYptS0Rd.mp4
 Let me try this... HAPPY... no.  CONGRATU... no.  hmm.
 FIFTEEN HUNDRED!!! YIPPEEEE!  WHOOPEE!  SHIVER ME TIMBERS!  WE DID IT!  WE ARE HERE! WOWOWOWOWOW!  CAN IT BE?  WHAAAA??  MY MY MY!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/O4M02Co7.mp4
 well whatever. i tried.
 yay.!
 @UniversalSuperBox, That was decent man. Decent.
 Nice
 Vera vera nice
[14:02] <ubptgbot> Nathan Evans was added by: Nathan Evans
[14:03] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Evans> So, the supported device list shows the Nexus 5 being supported, would that mean the Nexus 5x is compatible?
 @Nathan Evans, Hi Nathan, don't forget to read http://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @Nathan Evans, Nope, different devices
 @Nathan Evans, No, the 5x is a different device. It is not ported
[14:05] <ubptgbot> <Nathan Evans> Bummer, understood.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/qUEkaxHf.webp
 Is http://push.ubuntu.com/ used in any way currently or is everything handle by https://push.ubports.com/ now?
 I'm asking because of this https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1176/push-notifications-with-my-appserver
 The Ubuntu push server was shut down
 I thought so but then it seems the examples here are wrong https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-push
 @advocatux, The code/docs haven't been updated. Only the config was changed to point to the new URL, afaik.
 Ah, thank you
 PRs welcome :)
 For improving docs
 👍
 Done the PR
[15:25] <ubptgbot> Kim_LTK was added by: Kim_LTK
[15:29] <ubptgbot> Hitch Oh was added by: Hitch Oh
[15:29] <ubptgbot> <Hitch Oh> Hey Guys!
[15:30] <ubptgbot> <Hitch Oh> Having a minor issue using ubports on Mac OSx
[15:30] <ubptgbot> <Hitch Oh> Trying to flash an old Oneplus One
[15:30] <ubptgbot> <Hitch Oh> Phone is detected and put into bootloader, then it hangs on this..
 Hi @Kim_LTK & Hitch You can check out http://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
[15:31] <ubptgbot> <Hitch Oh> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/kAWnHiSi.png
 Thanks
[15:31] <ubptgbot> <Hitch Oh> Thanks @advocatux
 @Hitch Oh, Come to https://t.me/WelcomePlus to get help
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/IfhiFVTj.png
 Interesting... 🤔
 so you installed neofetch in rootfs i guess?
 In 45 minutes we will have a talk on ubuntu touch in german in Vienna, maybe with a livestream
 @nanu_c, link please
 https://metalab.at/wiki/Metaday_83
 Livestream confirmed
 But it will be in German xD I assume.
 Or the audience demands English
 well, "in german in Vienna" presumably means the language, since Vienna is still in Austria AFAIK :)
 Hi, is there a alternative to "LiveStream" that we can use on ubuntu touch, for example, the next month of events will take place in paris.
 Next cloud spreed??
 Or you mean something similar to twitch?
 The UBports QA is made using google 😹
 you mean the recording end being a phone with UT?
 Can be used on ubuntu touch
 Yes
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j7e5uXko6s
 ??
 i don't think there is anything suitable on UT for that
 Yes I see, but that kind of service would be really useful to broadcast events. Can beings tell Framasoft...
 well, phones are not a good way to broadcast events like that, i think
 Ok, wait for a improvement in the software can beings ?
 Hey how to watch this talk?..
 Ah ok I have it sry
 @Sconio, it's not a software problem, really. just that phones aren't good devices for this
 Can these guys switch to English? Xdd
 If you aren't subscribed to the UBports Telegram News Channel, then you are missing out on the freshest news.  Do it.  Click the blue link and instantly subscribe:  https://t.me/ubports_news
 @wayneoutthere, Thx!
 @Flohack, deutsch ist doch prima nur hab ich das meiste leider verpasst...
 @Cédric, I miss all but I'm enjoying the slides :)
 @Pietia, nein :)
 i want a librem 5 phone with ubuntu touch
 I want a librem 5 with gentoo
 That'd be a memephone
 just install debian/hurd on it
 @dohbee, Is that hurd port still around?
 how would i know
 Wondering if it works outside a VM, never seen that
 How old is UT's glibc?
 @K31j0, pessimist
 ask how new it is
 @K31j0, while you wait for Librem, check Gentoo/bionic :)
 @NotKit, You mean gentoo prefixes for android?
 @vanyasem, Then how new it is
 Sailfish has veeery old glibc
 probably not to break compatibility with hybris
 my ut phone is uncharged, can't really help you
 kay
 @K31j0, nah, updaing glibc doesn't break hybris much (it works on Arch/Debian testing)
 @K31j0 https://elinux.org/images/2/25/2013_elc_gentoo_bionic.pdf
 @NotKit, Kay, then jolla is just lazy
 it will break support for devices with older kernel though, such as Droid 4
 So anything that is built with google's gcc older than 4.9 is a no-go, I guess
 anything with kernel older than 3.2 actually
 Our EOL kernels aren't the best thing in the world too :P
 the glibc in UT is not updated from whatever is in the same upstream ubuntu version
 so whatever was in 15.04 is what's in the stable image, and whatever's in 16.04 is in xenial, and so on
 @LennyPenny, nah
 wtf, was that like a month ago?
 @dohbee, October, 10th, 2017
 wow
 @samzn, Please don't do that again. Thank you
 Cross posted from ubports_surreal