[04:48] <PyChild> Howdy! Just wondering. Is it possible to get linux 4.16 from an apt source ? I'm using an AMD APU drivers and I'love to try the latest fixes but I can't find linux 4.16 in Muon Package Manager (I'm also new at KDE so apologies on advance)
[04:49] <PyChild> s/drivers//
[06:26] <otomo> Hi, I still couldn't upgrade, it keep on saying that there is no release available (and yes I tried bot long term releases and normal releases)
[06:27] <acheronuk> otomo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[06:27] <acheronuk> "Note: Upgrades from 17.10 will not be enabled until a few days after 18.04's release. Upgrades from 16.04 LTS may not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July."
[06:27] <diogenes_> otomo, why you need it so urgently?
[06:28] <otomo> Thanks acheronuk, sorry I didn't know that
[06:29] <otomo> diogenes, no I don't need it so urgently, as I didn't know that info I thought something could be brong in my Kubuntu
[06:29] <otomo> so perfect them :), thanks
[06:32] <otomo> and another not so "important" question, do you know if the new Gimp 2.10 will be released in the official repos of 18.04? Thanks
[06:36] <acheronuk> it's a new feature release, not just a bugfix release, so I would say unlikely for a stable release update. in time perhaps it might get to the archive's unsupported backports section, but I don't know to what degree things are going to go in there for 18.04 yet
[06:37] <acheronuk> if it is snapped, then it would get an update at some point
[06:40] <Honoo> I have asked a question a few hours back, but it seems nobody was around to answer at that time therefore I'll ask again. It seems a configuration in either my .local or .config folders are preventing KDE from properly displaying the appmenu, be it the global menu or the window decoration button.
[06:41] <Honoo> I am running 18.04 LTS at the moment, and this problem does not repeat with a new user account. However I need to preserve my current applicationg settings so for me getting rid of my entire .local and .config folders are not an option
[06:44] <diogenes_> Honoo, not the entire .config, try to rename your .config/kde* <[06:48] <Honoo> diogenes_: thank you. I'll try that.
[06:48] <otomo> Thanks acheronuk
[08:04] <mene> Hallo everyone. I am trying to upgrade from kubuntu 17.10 to 18.04 and encountered this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1753073 which is supposedly fixed? Can anyone confirm and give me some advice how to fix this? apt --fix-broken install doesn't work. Thanks in advance!
[08:12] <acheronuk> are you able to comment so on the bug please? showing the error?
[08:13] <mene> Will do so
[08:16] <lz> join #linuxba
[08:17] <lz> Sorry, it's a mistype.
[08:22] <mene> commented on the bug, also posted a possible workaround that I just found.
[08:29] <acheronuk> thx
[09:04] <Lucifer_arma> can we upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 now, then?
[09:07] <diogenes_> Lucifer_arma, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[09:58] <maxcell_> hi, im using ubuntu 18.04 lts with nvidia prop. driver 390 in a gtx 970 on a desktop computer and i'm getting very bad screen tearing. Already did the "ForceFullCompositionPipeline=On" and it didn't work. First distro i have that kind of problem. Any idea/
[10:09] <maxcell_> Kubuntu is geving me Screen Tearing with nvidia prop driver and ForceFullCompositePipeline enabled somebody can help/
[10:17] <diegoC> Should I be able to do 'do-release-upgrade'.
[10:17] <diegoC> Is not working for me.
[10:22] <acheronuk> diegoC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[10:22] <acheronuk> "Note: Upgrades from 17.10 will not be enabled until a few days after 18.04's release. Upgrades from 16.04 LTS may not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July."
[10:24] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:29] <Markdown1_> acheronuk thanks for the citation link.
[10:29] <Markdown1_> somebody from this room was actually arguing with me that it was already released...
[10:34] <acheronuk> It is released. However, the meta that allows distribution upgrades is not usually switched for a while after, to give a chance for any left over upgrade bugs shake down
[10:35] <Markdown1_> * dist-upgrade was already released I mean.
[10:37] <acheronuk> you can force it, but you could when 18.04 was still in development, so no change there
[10:37] <acheronuk> *still in pre-release development
[10:39] <Markdown1_> I did a Fresh Install actually, so happy camper here. :)
[10:40] <acheronuk> :)
[10:40] <user|81418> https://thepasteb.in/p/Rghnp54l2ZXUz
[10:40] <user|81418> I get the above msg while installing Bionic
[10:41] <user|81418> Installer crashed.
[10:51] <acheronuk> user|81418: if you are able to, please report a bug with 'ubuntu-bug ubiquity'
[10:51] <diegoC> acheronuk: makes sense
[10:51] <acheronuk> that paste doesn't give info on what package installing caused the crash
[10:53] <user|81418> jep, that's a pity
[10:54] <user|81418> it seems that this might influence it:
[10:54] <acheronuk> user|81418: installation in German? with what options?
[10:54] <user|81418> https://thepasteb.in/p/Elh1zp8Jpvzum
[10:55] <acheronuk> helpful!
[10:56] <acheronuk> Just did a full install in german language with no crash, so not obvious to re-produce
[10:56] <user|81418> I'll give it another clean try...
[10:58] <user|81418> New stick - new partitiontable...
[12:00] <nox11> Hey all! :) I'm having some issues installing Kubuntu 18.04. No matter how I do it, grub install fails.
[12:00] <nox11> ubiquity: grub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error
[12:01] <diogenes_> nox11, try with legacy mode, no uefi
[12:01] <ricktimmis[m]> Ok, looks like the uefi boot loader security is stopping you
[12:01] <ricktimmis[m]> Yep, legacy
[12:01] <nox11> But secureboot is disabled, and all other distros installs fine
[12:02] <ricktimmis[m]> Ah OK
[12:03] <nox11> Anything else that might be wrong?
[12:04] <ricktimmis[m]> The error says I/O error, can you try again with other distro. Just to check that it is not an MBR error
[12:04] <ricktimmis[m]> If they still install then we'll need to dig into the logs
[12:05] <nox11> Alright! Is there a specific one you'd prefer me trying?
[12:17] <nox11> ricktimmis[m]: grub successfully installs and boots with solus
[12:19] <Lucifer_arma> acheronuk: I had already seen that page.  :/  I was wondering if the upgrades had been enabled yet, because it looked like somebody here was doing that
[12:19]  * Lucifer_arma is in 17.10 with two computers and really wants to hurry up and get 18.04 so he doesn't have to worry about upgrading again for two years
[12:22] <acheronuk> Lucifer_arma: no, they have not. neither meta-release or meta-release-lts on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/ have had 18.04 details added to the yet, and it is that which gets checked by upgrade tools
[12:25] <pr3c0g> hey all. do you guys recommend to install kubuntu from scratch, or can I go from ubuntu to kubuntu with their guide?
[12:25] <pr3c0g> for some reason I feel this will not go well..
[12:30] <nox11> grub also fails to install on ubuntu 18.04, with the same error
[12:38] <acheronuk> nox11: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bugs?orderby=-date_last_updated&start=0
[12:38] <acheronuk> seems a fair few bugs there. maybe see if any replicate what you get
[12:39] <acheronuk> and ask in #ubuntu is it's a more general issue
[13:10] <nox11> acheronuk: Thank you! Seems like installation fails if installed next to other OSes. Unplugging my other hard drives before installation fixes the issue.
[13:11] <BluesKaj> especially if the OSs are windows
[13:11] <acheronuk> nox11: cheers. hopefully that will be ironed out in a future update!
[13:16] <kiroma> Hey I'm having an issue with sddm
[13:16] <kiroma> I tried compiling it from source but it didn't work as the screen would go completely black
[13:17] <kiroma> So I removed it and reinstalled the packaged version of SDDM but that doesn't work either now as all I get is a cursor on a black screen.
[13:18] <kiroma> I can start a graphical session manually with startx.
[13:29] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | kiroma
[13:31] <kiroma> I've got properitary drivers installed, and it's been working fine so far before I did this dumb thing.
[13:35] <acheronuk> a self build may result in files and config files left over. our packaged version does not have things quite as they would be if built from source
[13:38] <acheronuk> oh. they quit
[13:41] <kiroma> nomodeset made the situation even worse.
[13:45] <BluesKaj> worse, how?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> seems he doesn't want help, he's just here to complain.
[13:55] <kiroma> I wasn't able to start an X session anymore, even manually
[13:56] <kiroma> So I think the issue is with sddm-greeter, it's not able to display the login screen for some reason
[13:56] <kiroma> sddm works, because I can see and move my cursor around
[13:57] <kiroma> And everything else works as well as I'm using Konversation to talk right now.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> kiroma,  changed the nomodeset line back to 'quiet splash' in grub ?
[14:01] <kiroma> yes
[14:03] <kiroma> With properitary drivers it shouldn't even matter actually so it's a bit confusing.
[14:03] <hegemon8> i had issue with UEFI before and grub, bur now as i have no windows on this hdd, i use bios old for it, i'm not sure it can change anuthing in Your case..
[14:04] <hegemon8> anything*
[14:04] <kiroma> Probably not
[14:05] <kiroma> Again, everything was working fine before I decided to replace the default sddm with the one compiled locally
[14:05] <kiroma> I can still run graphical applications and Xorg works just fine
[14:05] <kiroma> I just can't log in with sddm-greeter.
[14:07] <BluesKaj> kiroma, <acheronuk> a self build may result in files and config files left over. our packaged version does not have things quite as they would be if built from source
[14:08] <BluesKaj> this was posted immediately after you left the first time
[14:08] <kiroma> Oh thank you
[14:08] <kiroma> Well I've removed every file in the install manifest and reinstalled sddm several times.
 it might be easier to reinstall the OS?
 just a thought
[14:14] <kiroma> Unless I've missed some crucial package
[14:34] <kiroma> So what package should I try reinstalling to restore all the config files?
[14:34] <kiroma> Because I just noticed that the install manifest replced some files outside /usr/local
[14:34] <luc4> Hello! Anyone using kde connect with Android? On my system I get an immediate system freeze.
[14:35] <kiroma> I am and it works fine for me
[14:35] <luc4> kiroma: what kernel are you using?
[14:35] <kiroma> Does it hang when connecting or when you perform a particular action?
[14:35] <kiroma> 4.15
[14:36] <luc4> ah ah I'm using 4.13
[14:36] <luc4> maybe that is the reason
[14:36] <luc4> It freezes almost immediately when I start browsing files.
[14:36] <kiroma> I don't think so, I've been using KDE Connect since 17.10, worked fine all the time
[14:38] <luc4> oh... then no idea, but it seems somehow related to the kernel, I see kworker immedaitely reaching high cpu usage and then the system dies
[14:39] <luc4> I would like to test 18.04 but I read it won't be available for some days
[14:47] <kiroma> Well I'm out of ideas, so I'm going to reinstall the system
[14:47] <kiroma> That was dumb
[15:10] <GampaGamer> Is there a problem all of a sudden accessing a network drive in Kubuntu? I thought it used to work, ubuntu does.
[15:11] <GampaGamer> I've installed Samba... I'm just a casual user, not a programmer.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> GampaGamer, network attached drive on your router for example?
[15:17] <GampaGamer> yes its attached to my router
[15:18] <GampaGamer> do i need to restart after installing samba?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> not that I recall
 @GampaGamer, To run Samba after install, run these commands:
 sudo systemctl unmask smbd
 sudo systemctl enable smbd
 sudo systemctl restart smbd
 To view router shared drives update /etc/samba/smb.conf as follows:
[15:24] <BluesKaj> have you tried the add network folder option in dolphin network
 In the [global] section, add:
 client NTLMv2 auth = no
 client use spnego = no
[15:25] <GampaGamer> ok, one sec
[15:26] <BluesKaj> stuff to do, BBL
[15:27] <GampaGamer> ok done
 ensure to restart samba after updating smb.conf... (sudo systemctl restart smbd)
[15:28] <GampaGamer> hmmm
[15:28] <GampaGamer> i did, still nothing
[15:28] <GampaGamer> nothing in dolphin under samba shares
[15:28] <GampaGamer> i dont get it
[15:30] <GampaGamer> uh oh, something more is wrong, windows machines aint seeing it either.
 Dolphin is still  "finiky" when it comes to samba shares.  Network shares do not always show up and sometime require direct addressing, i.e. smb://<hostname>/path
 in addition, copying sets files sometimes fails and attempts to reconnect fail.  I have not tried samba yet on 18.04.  Let attempt real quick to see if anything has improved.
[15:33] <GampaGamer> ok, drive still works, i can access with my firesticks.  windows has a problem now with network shares so that doesnt surprise me.
[15:33] <GampaGamer> but most linux distros have no problem so ill try the direct approach.
[15:33] <meena> extremely confused about what's going on when i press AltGr (the thing i set as Compose key) - it opens Google in my browser.
[15:34] <GampaGamer> how do i find the hostname and path?
[15:34] <GampaGamer> brainfart
 If its your router, usually substitute the name router IP for hostname.
[15:35] <flask-> Hi all.  I'm a new KDE user, running kubuntu 18.04.  I have a question about grouping tasks in the Task Manager.  I have a number of Atom windows open.  If I go into Task Manager Settings and I set Grouping to be "By Program Name" but I leave "Open groups in popups" unchecked, the Atom items do not group but I would expect that they should.  They only group together if I check "Open groups in popups".
[15:39] <GampaGamer> AHHHH HAAAAA!!!! got it
[15:39] <GampaGamer> thank you!
 Really? awesome!!!
[15:40] <GampaGamer> how can i add a link to that somehow?
[15:40] <GampaGamer> manually add the network share?
 Yes, manuall add network share should work.
[15:41] <GampaGamer> got it, right click and add to places should work
[15:41] <GampaGamer> yep that did it
 nice!
[15:44] <GampaGamer> thanks for helping DarinMiller
 Very welcome.
[15:51] <meena> i'm very, very confused. There's nothing in the (global) shortcuts that even uses AltGr.
[18:25] <BionicMac> Hello folks. Here's to the weekend!
[18:26] <BionicMac> Cheers
[18:49] <peredur> hi, i just downloaded kubuntu 18.04 from the torrent and the sha256sum is not matching. can anybody help?
[18:50] <krytarik> Yes, download it again.
[18:51] <krytarik> !zsync
[18:51] <krytarik> Or that.
[18:52] <peredur> ubottu: Ok, thanks.
[18:53] <krytarik> ubottu is a bot.
[19:04] <peredur> krytarik: zsync worked like a charm. Thanks for the help.
[19:05] <krytarik> Cool. :)
[19:12] <Eightynine> Hello. Is that possible to add a word near K on Plasma panel?
[19:51] <marktutone> downloaded 18.04 now kde will not start
[20:06] <meena> so, here we go, filed a bug report for the plasma altgr thingy https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393619
[21:43] <phoenix_firebrd> is there a virtual keyboard that I can use
[21:45] <phoenix_firebrd> in kde 4.x i was using the keyboard widget, then after the widget was depreciated, I started using the app iok. now its gone from the repositories after updating to 18.04. Is there any other replacement?
[21:47] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: checkout this list: apt-cache search virtual keyboard
[21:51] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: Looks like several packages may fit your needs: 'matchbox-keyboard' or 'qtvirtualkeyboard-plugin' .. 'qml-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard'
[21:53] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: just now tried the matchbox-keyboard. the window size is not persistent. uninstalling it
[21:53] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: florence - extensible and scalable virtual keyboard for X
[21:53] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: qtvirtualkeyboard-plugin' .. 'qml-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard' are these apps or qt plugins?
[21:54] <BionicMac> I'm not sure i just grabbed those from the search results.
[21:55] <BionicMac> try apt-cache show 'package name' ..
[21:55] <BionicMac> florence seems like a possible winner.
[22:02] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: florence works, thanks for the support
[22:04] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: you're welcome. I just read about a default Accessibility Keyboard.
[22:05] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: check these out: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-osk.html
[22:05] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: I was searching for that too
[22:05] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAccessibilityKeyboard
[22:05] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: kde people were talking about a virtual keyboard that qt will have
[22:06] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: it was suppose to popup when a text field is in focus
[22:10] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: I'm looking and I I don't think the acessibility keyboard made it into the release by default... Unless I am missing something obvious.
[22:10] <BionicMac> florence looks good though
[22:10] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: ya
[22:14] <acheronuk> qtvirtualkeyboard should be integrated on wayland, but that was no done by kde for X
[22:15] <acheronuk> can run Qt apps with it on X with env var  'QT_IM_MODULE=qtvirtualkeyboard'
[22:18] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: let me check
[22:20] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: checked with falkon browser, it works
[22:21] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: what about kde apps with X
[22:21] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: omg it works
[22:21] <acheronuk> should work
[22:22] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: tested with kde
[22:22] <phoenix_firebrd> i mean kate
[22:22] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: is there a way to start every app with this env set?
[22:36] <Stern> Cannot find Thunderbird in Discover in 18.04. Is it just me?
[22:39] <BionicMac> Stern: confirmed. I see it in muon and apt though.
[22:40] <Stern> BionicMac: Luckily it's not kicked out of the repository :)
[22:40] <phoenix_firebrd> Stern: I see thunderbird in discover but from flathub
[22:45] <vespertatia> Hello, will there be an approximate date when the maintainers will enable updating from 17.10 to 18.04 via apt?
[22:45] <acheronuk> LP: #1639863
[22:46] <BionicMac> vespertatia: https://itsfoss.com/upgrade-ubuntu-version/
[22:47] <acheronuk> vespertatia: "in a day or 3" was what I saw release team say yesterday
[22:47] <BionicMac> ah.. ^^ :) what acheronuk said. !
[22:52] <vespertatia> Oh I see, thank you all :)
[23:03] <AceKing> I did a fresh install of 18.04 on my PC. I am hardwired into the router and my Ethernet card is RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express. My download speed is 6 mbps and my upload speed is 27 mbps. My download is usually over 100 mbps. Worked good with all other versions. Any ideas how to fix this?