[00:39] <swift110> hey all
[00:40] <bumblefuzz> I can't get the software boutique to retrieve the latest software listings
[00:40] <bumblefuzz> the link at the bottom is grayed out
[00:40] <bumblefuzz> but it isn't the latest version
[00:41] <bumblefuzz> also, my internet connection is screwy
[00:41] <bumblefuzz> the connection is all over the place
[00:41] <bumblefuzz> sometimes it says there's no connection
[00:41] <bumblefuzz> then it connects and works just fine
[00:41] <bumblefuzz> this is a fresh install of 16.04.4
[00:52] <Techman> >16.04.4
[00:53] <Techman> Honestly Ubuntu MATE has improved so much that the two different LTSs are like different experiences
[01:24] <eephee> hi all!  i was hoping to get a fresh powerPC release with bionic, but just found out, that ppc-support will be dropped. however info on the exact point in time when support will cease seems inconsistent.   the download page suggests 2019.04 while the announcement states 2021. what's correct?
[01:34] <swift110> hey Techman
[01:34] <swift110> hey eephee
[01:37] <chirinea> hi, I've upgraded to Mate 18.04. For some reason I'm unable to hide the side bar in Mutiny, nor can I resize the icons. Can someone help?
[01:40] <mate|94990> hi
[02:30] <usernamer> which the previous kernel version used on ubuntu-mate 17.10??
[02:31] <usernamer> my brightness FN keys is not working, i want rollback the kernel to test. Was working before
[05:59] <Hammit> Hi, I was told previously that I might need to wait a few hours to be able to upgrade to 18.04. I still can't upgrade even after waiting more than just a few hours
[05:59] <Hammit> Just wondering what would be causing this delay?
[05:59] <Hammit> Is there anything I can do about it, or is there something wrong that I need to fix?
[07:36] <I-top> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my IPhone 5 and I'm wondering how to do so. Please help!
[08:56] <bembel> Hello, I would like to get advices for partitiong before a fresh install of UM 18.04
[08:59] <bembel> Can someone help me?
[09:22] <bembel> up
[09:28] <sixwheeledbeast> !ask
[10:33] <bembel> I'm looking for some help partitioning before a fresh install...
[10:49] <bembel> test
[10:49] <bembel> oops
[10:50] <bembel> I want to install / on entire SSD, home on entire HDD. Can/shuol
[10:50] <bembel> Can/sould I use LVM?
[11:10] <mate|94939> hola ¿alguno habla español?
[11:11] <diogenes_> !es | mate|94939
[11:12] <mate|94939> lo intentare, muchas gracias
[11:16] <Nrs123> Can anyone tell me where is in 18.04 encruption of home catalog during installation?
[12:14] <Hammit> Has anyone else had problems trying to upgrade to the new Ubuntu MATE 18.04?
[12:20] <Hammit> I've followed the instruction on the Blog to upgrade from 17.10 but they don't work
[13:13] <usernamer> help, my Fn +brightness key isnot working in ubuntu mate 18.04, before in 17.10 was working perfect
[14:08] <Odin[m]> Hello people. How can i upgrade from Ubuntu Mate 17.10 to Ubuntu 18.04
[14:19] <diogenes_> Odin[m], you can try
[14:19] <diogenes_> sudo apt install update-manager-core
[14:19] <diogenes_> sudo apt update
[14:19] <diogenes_> sudo apt do-release-upgrade
[14:40] <usernamer> how to remove telemetry from 18.04??
[15:15] <Markdown1_> usernamer it asks you during insallation
[15:15] <Markdown1_> you can opt out there if you want to
[15:16] <usernamer> which the name of package that contain the telemetry thing?
[15:23] <jpleau> hi. I'd like to use "Super" key to move / resize windows, and also keep "Super" to open the mate menu. It seems to conflict (it only opens the menu and doesnt let me resize/move windows). Is there a solution to that?
[15:28] <usernamer> want to remove the package that are responsible for telemetry, what would to remove?
[15:33] <usernamer> anybody can help me to identify the package containing telemetry
[15:40] <lapaga> usernamer, you know you have the option to send it or not
[15:41] <pavlos> usernamer: settings, privacy, disable Problem reporting
[15:42] <usernamer> i not want disable or block , i want remove
[15:42] <usernamer> to anybody else enable this again
[15:43] <usernamer> want to remove from the system
[15:45] <usernamer> what package is responsible for telemetry?? is that a secret?
[15:52] <pavlos> usernamer: it is not a single package, there is zeitgeist-daemon which provides a framework for activity logging
[15:53] <usernamer> then all packages related to zeitgeist, are that framework chosen built to canonical telemetry
[15:55] <usernamer> thanks , i just wanted know the name, i 'll remove
[16:02] <pavlos> usernamer: no, zeitgeist framework is very useful for apps to share activity info ... I would not remove
[16:40] <mate|19664> hi evryone
[17:14] <Guest37221> witam
[17:14] <Guest37221> welcom
[17:15] <diogenes_> Guest37221, witaj
[17:15] <Guest37221> właśnie reinstaluje firefoxa
[17:16] <Guest37221> ponieważ po zainstalowaniu ubuntu mate 10.04 na raspberry pi 2 firefox sie nie uruchamia tylko mam info o crashu
[17:16] <Guest37221> dalej to samo
[17:16] <Guest37221> macie jakieś propozycje jak to naprawic?
[17:20] <Guest37221> chodziło o ubuntu mate 16.04*
[17:21] <diogenes_> muszisz inna wersje firefoxa instalowac
[17:21] <diogenes_> ta ktora dzialala dot ego
[17:21] <diogenes_> tegO*
[17:21] <Guest37221> instaluje z oryginalnych źródeł
[17:21] <Guest37221> dla rasppi
[17:22] <diogenes_> tak
[17:22] <Guest37221> poinstaluje codeki itp , może coś znajde
[17:24] <Guest37221> zrobiłem upgrade do najnowszej dla RPi2 i jądro tez najnowsze
[17:25] <Guest37221> instaluja sie kodeki
[17:28] <Guest37221> dalej to samo
[17:28] <Guest37221> może restart musi by ć„
[17:28] <diogenes_> sprobuj
[17:28] <Guest37221> a da sie jakoś servis firefoxa zrestartować?
[17:28] <Guest37221> BuildID: 20180404121059
[17:28] <Guest37221> CrashTime: 1524936468
[17:28] <Guest37221> FramePoisonBase: 0000004041121792
[17:28] <Guest37221> FramePoisonSize: 4096
[17:28] <Guest37221> InstallTime: 1524928503
[17:29] <diogenes_> nie trzeba tu wjkejac nic
[17:29] <diogenes_> wklejac*
[17:29] <diogenes_> bo bana dostaniesz
[17:30] <SuperEngineer> Is a UEFI system not allowed more than 1 OS?
[17:31] <Guest37221> tylko że taki szkopuł , że niby mam uzyć strony internetowej do wysłania loga ale nie działą mi przeglądarka wiec niemam jak xD
[17:31] <Guest37221> klin xD
[17:31] <diogenes_> Guest37221, masz jak
[17:32] <SuperEngineer> [Just installed Umate and now have no boot access to other my other installed OS
[17:32] <Guest37221> SuperEngineer , you can instal more than 1 OS in UEFI but you must set everything properly, try to find on google
[17:32] <diogenes_> SuperEngineer, and other are?
[17:32] <SuperEngineer> Solus
[17:33] <diogenes_> SuperEngineer, did you run sudo grub-update?
[17:34] <SuperEngineer> yup... it found Solus ok, no complaint from grub but reboot shows nothing but Mate
[17:34] <SuperEngineer> no matter what I try in 'bios' or in Mate or in anything... other OS is not a boot option
[17:34] <Guest37221> SuperEngineer, you can set in BIOS to boot fron partition with linux first and then probly will see Grub
[17:34] <diogenes_> SuperEngineer, are you sure solus is installed in uefi too?
[17:35] <SuperEngineer> yes
[17:35] <SuperEngineer> sys is UEFI only
[17:35] <diogenes_> SuperEngineer, then you can try the following: create a file custom.cfg in /boot/grub
[17:36] <Guest37221> you have win 10 and ubuntu?
[17:36] <diogenes_> paste in that file the grub menuentry for solus
[17:36] <Guest37221> ok zw
[17:36] <Guest37221> restart
[17:36] <SuperEngineer> Guest37221, I tried that long before asking for help but still the same boring option - UMate has got a greedy grub, no other boot options available
[17:38] <SuperEngineer> diogenes_, if an update-grub works, shows solus as found and then reports full success, why would pasting work?
[17:39] <diogenes_> SuperEngineer, it's just an idea that could theoretically work but since i have never encounter such an issue i can't guarantee the result
[17:40] <diogenes_> i can guarantee only that it won't harm anything
[17:40] <SuperEngineer> :)
[17:40] <oner> lam
[17:40] <oner> hello
[17:40] <oner> help me please
[17:41] <diogenes_> !ask | oner
[17:42] <oner> türk varmı
[17:43] <diogenes_> !tr
[18:04] <SuperEngineer> diogenes_,  I am now sending you this message from Solus - I deleted umate partition, reinstalled it, rechecked .cfg file after update-grub "apparent" success... no solus listed
[18:06] <SuperEngineer> ...but this time I *am* having success in setting Linux Boot in bios... don't now real reason
[18:06] <SuperEngineer> ..but I thank you for the help
[18:06] <SuperEngineer> sub/now/know
[18:06] <diogenes_> SuperEngineer, no problem
[18:07] <SuperEngineer> :)
[19:34] <daniel__> Hi everyone
[20:12] <erikct> Okay, hi, hello. Trying to install Ubuntu MATE 18.04 LTS on an Acer Spin 1 and the installer is stuck on "Installing the 'grub2' package..." and in the log it says "ubuntu-mate ubiquity: Installing for x86_64-efi platform."
[20:13] <erikct> I'm not sure of what the cause is, first I tried simply using the "install on whole disk" option, and next tried doing it manual
[20:15] <erikct> the EFI partition is /dev/mmcblk0p1 and the ext4 partition is /dev/mmcblk0p2, didn't make a swap partition
[20:19] <mate|72074> Hi. I installed yesterday the new Ubuntu Mate 18.4.  I find disabling the sound theme (switching to none)  still keeps the error notification sound on.
[20:21] <erikct> Have you tried checking the Mute checkbox next to Alert Volume?
[20:22] <erikct> That seems to do it for me, at least
[20:23] <erikct> I can confirm that when Alert volume is unmuted even when you're using No Sounds as the theme the error sound plays
[20:26] <mate|72074> I did not try the Mute checkbox. With that On, there is no alert sound anymore. Thanks.
[20:26] <mate|72074> but the slider for the alert sound was at minimum.
[20:26] <erikct> yw
[21:13] <calamari> is there a place I can re4quest help for 16.04->18.04 upgrade problems?
[21:18] <sixwheeledbeast> ask away
[21:20] <calamari> the fonts look weird. I went into Appearance Preferences > Fonts.  Changing DPI does something, but nothing else does. Used to be if you chose Monochrome you knew immediately that it looked terrible
[21:21] <calamari> (I don't want Monochrome, but it not doing anything tells that something's broken)
[21:25] <calamari> I have UI sounds, like if I press backspace in MATE Terminal at the beginning of a line. I used to not have any sounds, except music, websites, etc. when I go to Sound Preferences > Sound Effects, the Sound theme is "No sounds", and "Enable window and button sounds" is unchecked (and also greyed out).
[21:26] <calamari> The movement handles on the panel are missing. I can still move things, but I have to guess at where the handle is.
[21:28] <calamari> The scrollbars in Pluma and MATE Terminal some thin thing that looks like the current browser fad, I used to have the Industrial scrollbars which are actually usable. However the scrollbars are still good in HexChat. maybe some gtk3 garbage that crept in?
[21:30] <calamari> All my torrents are missing from KTorrent after the upgrade.
[21:34] <calamari> either I had a bad upgrade or someone decided to embrace progress... I choose MATE to be a UI luddite, I don't want progress :)
[22:26] <mate|40739> I have an AMD ryzen processor with the Prism cooler, andI found some links to get rust installed and on github the msi-rgb linux files but it says I need to find the src/main.rc file to impliment it, where is this file located?