[04:48] <flocculant> :D
[07:19] <flocculant> knome: so cont docs - pulled the branch - there are 4 docs for qa, there are 8 pages if I look online, that's just confusing
[08:17] <knome> flocculant, hmm...
[08:17] <flocculant> I was scratching my head a bit there 
[08:18] <knome> flocculant, i didn't update that last time, poke me again if i don't do it timely (not on the desktop now)
[08:18] <flocculant> knome: I don't mean that :)
[08:18] <knome> i guess we could also ask Unit193 to set up his automatic updater there
[08:18] <knome> oh?
[08:18] <knome> oh, right
[08:19] <flocculant> I wanted to work on them - and I'm just completely confused what's what in there now :D
[08:19] <knome> !)
[08:19] <flocculant> anyway - no rush at all - just mentioned when I was there - because I'll forget
[08:20] <knome> yup
[15:20] <flocculant> ochosi bluesabre: well this is probably something you'd not expect from me ... pretty much ever, but 
[15:22] <flocculant> if I'd got a changed xfce4-fsguard-plugin/panel-plugin/fsguard.c that appeared to build ok locally and work in the panel - that allowed for 64 characters instead of the 32 it currently allows
[15:22] <flocculant> what do I do with it now :D
[15:23] <flocculant> or
[15:23] <flocculant> what could there be instead of gtk_entry_set_max_length (GTK_ENTRY (entry1), 64); so there wasn't an arbitrary character limit?
[15:24] <flocculant> I assume I need to make it a patch - then report bug and attach it?
[15:29] <bluesabre> flocculant: yup, that'd be it. To drop the character limit, could probably remove that call all together, or set it to zero to remove the max
[15:30] <flocculant> I'll look if 0 does that in a bit then
[15:30] <flocculant> once I've done that - can I haz some help in making it a patch? 
[15:38] <flocculant> bluesabre: will play away from my install - when I have a question again I'll ask either of you again :)
[15:39] <bluesabre> flocculant: sure thing
[16:44] <flocculant> bluesabre: played some more - it appears to not have a fit if I comment the gtk_entry line, it also appears to allow a mount point that's 120 characters long - the tool tip however truncates at 98 characters which includes info before the mount point name (eg 111.99/1839.25 gb free space etc)
[17:28] <ochosi> flocculant: yessss - finally drifting towards development! ;) you can start by reporting the bug though, that will also help clarify your use-case and make it easier for others to help you
[17:29] <ochosi> flocculant: one easy way to create a patch is: 1) you check out from git.xfce.org 2) apply your changes 3) do your git commit 4) run "git format-patch -1" and then you get a patch in the naming 0001-commit-message.patch that you can upload to bz
[17:32] <flocculant> ochosi: ack re bug - was going to do it all at the same time - thanks for ^^ too :)
[17:33] <flocculant> not sure about why the tooltip i truncated though - it does at least work - just looks a bit manky :p
[17:35] <ochosi> that's odd
[17:40] <flocculant> s/i/is
[17:40] <flocculant> yea - but I'd not be likely to understand why :p
[17:40] <ochosi> it's possible that the text gets truncated
[17:40] <ochosi> tooltips themselves usually expand
[17:41] <ochosi> but i can take a look once you have your patch ready
[17:42] <flocculant> ok - just looking at commit bit now :p
[17:47] <flocculant> ochosi: patch looks enormous - not sure I've seen them like that, I've mailed you a copy just to be sure 
[17:47] <flocculant> wandering off for a bit now
[17:58] <flocculant> knome: quick question - tooltips in the wiki - where are they coming from? do we have plugin and some set?
[17:59] <willem> flocculant, thanks :-)
[18:02] <flocculant> :)
[18:27] <flocculant> ochosi: I used the xfce address I have btw - hope that actually works :D
[18:33] <flocculant> and looking at the size of the .patch I'm sure it's not quite right as it's 4Mb ...
[18:34] <flocculant> bbl or tomorrow
[19:35] <knome> flocculant, can you specify what tooltips exactly?
[19:59] <flocculant> OS has Operating System tooltip
[19:59] <flocculant> knome: ^^
[20:02] <knome> aha, the acronym ones
[20:03] <knome> it's some dokuwiki dict
[20:04] <knome> flocculant, want to add something there?
[20:05] <flocculant> knome: possibly :)
[20:05] <knome> just let me know
[20:05] <flocculant> ok - will do :)
[20:05] <knome> hmm, i think i will be disabling a few of the default ones...
[20:06] <knome> or tbh, most
[20:06] <flocculant> lol
[20:07] <knome> including LOL
[20:07] <knome> FTP is specified but SSH is not?
[20:07] <knome> sigh... :P
[20:07] <flocculant> :)
[20:08] <flocculant> Xubuntu, Best Ever OS
[20:08] <knome> ;)
[20:14] <knome> flocculant, 
[20:14] <knome> ISO          ISO image
[20:14] <knome> LTS          Long-term support
[20:14] <knome> RC           Release Candidate
[20:14] <knome> QA           Quality Assurance
[20:14] <knome> UI           User Interface
[20:14] <knome> XSD          Xubuntu Strategy Document
[20:14] <knome> flocculant, anything else that pops in your mind, and have a better description for ISO?
[20:14] <knome> these are updated when a page is saved (at least), so it might not be automatic..
[20:14] <knome> though there might be a way to rebuild the cache
[20:15] <knome> hmm. LP -> Launchpad
[20:16] <knome> and yes i realize the list wasn't in alphabetical order...
[20:19] <knome> ISO          ISO image, a container file containing installation/live environment files
[20:19] <knome> flocculant, ^
[20:20] <flocculant> yep - that's good
[20:20] <knome> s/containing/with/
[20:21] <flocculant> knome: be with you shortly - getting a git lesson
[20:21] <flocculant> :p
[20:21] <knome> mmmmm ;)
[20:21] <knome> no worries
[20:21] <knome> take your time...
[20:27] <flocculant> VM - Virtual Machine
[20:27] <flocculant> knome: ^^
[20:34] <knome> yup
[20:34] <knome> vbox?
[20:34] <knome> though i think it's subject to correct capitalization...
[20:36] <flocculant> well
[20:36] <flocculant> VBox
[20:36] <flocculant> VMWare
[20:36] <flocculant> KVM
[20:36] <flocculant> or just VM - Virtual Machine :)
[20:36] <knome> ;)
[20:36] <flocculant> ochosi: xfce 14367
[20:37] <flocculant> with patch - and thanks to krytarik :)
[20:39] <krytarik> You sir, are very welcome! :)
[20:39] <flocculant> :)
[20:39] <knome> :D
[20:44] <flocculant> knome: can't think of any other acronyms at the moment 
[20:44] <flocculant> but I am a bit 0_0 after the git stuff :p
[20:44] <knome> i can, but not suitable for the wiki...
[20:44]  * flocculant took ages with bzr too 
[20:44] <knome> you are lucky, i added Bzr and Git acronyms too ;)
[20:44] <flocculant> well yea ;)
[20:47] <flocculant> ochosi: and xfce 14368 for the panel plugin truncate issue
[20:47] <flocculant> and that's just about enough of things I need to think about for today :p
[20:48] <knome> ;)
[20:48] <knome> nighty
[20:48] <flocculant> oh I'm not gone - just not playing with git or the like :)
[20:49] <ali1234> hmm just removing the check?
[20:49] <knome> haha ok ;)
[20:50] <flocculant> knome: re bugzilla - not possible to make original comment editable like Lp? or not wanted?
[20:51] <knome> hmm, it should be possible
[20:51] <knome> or maybe not
[20:52] <knome> i guess no comments are editable, or am i wrong?
[20:52] <knome> but tbh, until we know which bug tracker we are using one year from now...
[20:52] <flocculant> afaik not
[20:52] <knome> yeah, then it's the same for the first comment
[20:54] <flocculant> ali1234: you talking to me?
[20:54] <ali1234> yeah
[20:55] <flocculant> just checking - was bluesabre's suggestion - I did try changing the value - but then where do you stop
[20:55] <flocculant> though I'd be wondering about a mount point that was 100's of characters long too
[20:56] <flocculant> came about because of a user in #xubuntu who was having issues with a samba mount point in the plugin - which I'm guessing could be quite long, not sure though
[20:56] <ali1234> there's another place with a 16 character limit
[20:57] <flocculant> name?
[20:57] <flocculant> guessing ...
[20:57] <ali1234> "entry3"
[20:57] <flocculant> got the plugin open - it's name 
[20:57] <ali1234> oic
[20:58] <flocculant> I'd wonder about having a long name for sure :)
[21:00] <ali1234> the guy who wrote that line of code hasn't touched it since 2012
[21:00] <flocculant> :)
[21:00] <flocculant> I doubt that I would again either - not something I ever use 
[21:00] <ali1234> and the line itself is from 2007
[21:01] <ali1234> if you're the last person to patch it, that means you are the maintainer :)
[21:01] <flocculant> ha ha 
[21:02] <flocculant> then I'd best ask krytarik how to get rid if a bit quick :D
[21:02] <ali1234> what does it even do?
[21:02] <flocculant> the plugin?
[21:02] <ali1234> oh, checks free space
[21:02] <flocculant> yea
[21:03] <flocculant> you can set levels to warn at seemingly
[21:04] <flocculant> anyway - off now - night all
[21:04] <knome> nighty
[21:07] <ali1234> a modernized version of this plugin should probably just check all mounted filesystems automatically, given that just about everything is automounted now and users arent really expected to know about mount points
[21:08] <ali1234> and there's probably an API just for doing that now
[21:24] <ochosi> ali1234: if you feel like cleaning that up, go ahead...
[21:24] <ochosi> there have been a few attempts at cleaning up and merging all those "monitoring" plugins
[21:25] <ochosi> the concept has been around since xfce 4.10, so since a while ;)
[21:25] <ochosi> just nobody ever really wanted to spend the time to consolidate fsguard, cpugraph, systemload, generic monitor, ...