[00:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_akonadi build #176: STILL FAILING in 34 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_akonadi/176/ [00:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_akonadi build #599: STILL FAILING in 36 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_akonadi/599/ [00:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_akonadi build #177: STILL FAILING in 32 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_akonadi/177/ [00:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_akonadi build #229: STILL FAILING in 3 min 45 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_akonadi/229/ [00:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_akonadi build #231: STILL FAILING in 3 min 45 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_akonadi/231/ [00:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kopete build #88: FAILURE in 19 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kopete/88/ [00:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kdb build #140: STILL FAILING in 33 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kdb/140/ [00:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdb build #254: STILL FAILING in 34 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdb/254/ [00:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_messagelib build #240: STILL FAILING in 3 min 54 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_messagelib/240/ [00:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_messagelib build #486: STILL FAILING in 3 min 54 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_messagelib/486/ [00:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_messagelib build #348: STILL FAILING in 2 min 51 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_messagelib/348/ [00:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_messagelib build #174: STILL FAILING in 3 min 53 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_messagelib/174/ [00:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_kdb build #105: STILL FAILING in 2 min 42 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_kdb/105/ [00:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kdb build #191: STILL FAILING in 3 min 40 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kdb/191/ [00:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kitinerary build #12: NOW UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kitinerary/12/ [00:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_cantor build #99: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_cantor/99/ [00:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kopete build #56: STILL FAILING in 4 min 7 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kopete/56/ [00:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kopete build #266: STILL FAILING in 4 min 12 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kopete/266/ [00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kopete build #191: FAILURE in 4 min 50 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kopete/191/ [00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_kopete build #125: FAILURE in 4 min 50 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_kopete/125/ [00:31] hi, are people aware of a major bug in Plasma where if the screen resolution changes the settings for the panel are disregarded? [00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_cantor build #106: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 35 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_cantor/106/ [00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdb build #122: FIXED in 33 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdb/122/ [00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kalzium build #88: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 34 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kalzium/88/ [00:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdb build #114: FIXED in 36 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdb/114/ [00:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_libkgapi build #69: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 38 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_libkgapi/69/ [00:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_poxml build #98: FAILURE in 26 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_poxml/98/ [00:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ark build #136: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 40 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ark/136/ [01:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_ark build #113: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_ark/113/ [01:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdav2 build #94: FAILURE in 1 min 21 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdav2/94/ [01:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdenetwork-filesharing build #54: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdenetwork-filesharing/54/ [01:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kstars build #134: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 0 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kstars/134/ [01:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_amarok build #104: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 2 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_amarok/104/ [01:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kopete build #89: FIXED in 54 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kopete/89/ [01:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kalzium build #86: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kalzium/86/ [01:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kamoso build #100: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kamoso/100/ [01:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kitinerary build #13: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kitinerary/13/ [01:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdenetwork-filesharing build #75: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdenetwork-filesharing/75/ [01:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ruqola build #194: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ruqola/194/ [01:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_xdg-desktop-portal-kde build #127: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_xdg-desktop-portal-kde/127/ [01:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kimap build #57: FAILURE in 30 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kimap/57/ [01:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kalzium build #89: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kalzium/89/ [01:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_poxml build #99: FIXED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_poxml/99/ [01:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_polkit-kde-agent-1 build #116: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_polkit-kde-agent-1/116/ [01:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kimap build #392: STILL FAILING in 2 min 41 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kimap/392/ [01:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kimap build #130: STILL FAILING in 2 min 42 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kimap/130/ [01:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_kimap build #135: FAILURE in 2 min 46 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_kimap/135/ [01:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kimap build #191: FAILURE in 2 min 46 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kimap/191/ [01:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ark build #137: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ark/137/ [01:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdav2 build #95: FIXED in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdav2/95/ [01:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_syndication build #125: STILL FAILING in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_syndication/125/ [01:51] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_ruqola build #168: STILL FAILING in 36 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_ruqola/168/ [01:51] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ruqola build #195: FAILURE in 45 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ruqola/195/ [01:51] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ruqola build #91: STILL FAILING in 37 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ruqola/91/ [01:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kmailtransport build #113: STILL FAILING in 2 min 40 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kmailtransport/113/ [02:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_cantor build #107: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_cantor/107/ [02:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kimap build #58: FIXED in 21 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kimap/58/ [02:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kstars build #135: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kstars/135/ [02:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_ruqola build #169: FIXED in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_ruqola/169/ [02:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ruqola build #92: FIXED in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ruqola/92/ [02:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_libkgapi build #70: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_libkgapi/70/ [02:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ruqola build #196: FIXED in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ruqola/196/ [02:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_amarok build #105: STILL UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_amarok/105/ [02:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_cantor build #100: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_cantor/100/ [02:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_ruqola build #170: FAILURE in 3 min 51 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_ruqola/170/ [03:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_messagelib build #198: STILL FAILING in 27 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_messagelib/198/ [03:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kwin build #147: FAILURE in 4 hr 3 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kwin/147/ [03:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kmime build #129: FAILURE in 4 min 50 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kmime/129/ [03:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_libgravatar build #81: STILL FAILING in 17 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_libgravatar/81/ [04:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ktorrent build #119: STILL FAILING in 6 min 49 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ktorrent/119/ [04:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kmime build #124: FAILURE in 16 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kmime/124/ [04:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop build #148: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop/148/ [04:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_akonadi build #151: STILL FAILING in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_akonadi/151/ [05:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_pimcommon build #100: STILL FAILING in 11 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_pimcommon/100/ [05:42] yikes: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/8fqrsf/kubuntu_1804_installer_crashes/?st=jgltg4ui&sh=19d582f4 [05:48] https://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/8foojm/kubuntu_1804_freezes_at_try_kubuntu/?st=jgltlcoq&sh=20ad6df2 [05:48] gosh, why *after* the release [06:21] acpi_osi='!Windows 2015' … what? [06:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kmime build #526: STILL FAILING in 3 min 40 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kmime/526/ [06:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kmime build #137: STILL FAILING in 3 min 40 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kmime/137/ [07:12] @acheronuk, so far so good ... [07:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [07:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kmime build #130: FIXED in 14 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kmime/130/ [07:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [07:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kmime build #125: FIXED in 15 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kmime/125/ [07:44] gosh, why *after* the release [07:44] because pre-release testing cannot replicate all corner cases [07:45] so far, by far, problems are very few. not replicated much, so limited [08:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kitinerary build #3: STILL FAILING in 30 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kitinerary/3/ [08:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kitinerary build #3: STILL FAILING in 3 min 40 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kitinerary/3/ [09:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [09:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdeclarative build #88: FIXED in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdeclarative/88/ [09:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kstars build #660: STILL FAILING in 1 min 56 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kstars/660/ [09:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_kstars build #278: STILL FAILING in 4 min 19 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_kstars/278/ [09:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [09:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kwin build #148: FIXED in 35 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kwin/148/ [09:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [09:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kstars build #136: FIXED in 35 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kstars/136/ [10:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kitinerary build #14: STILL UNSTABLE in 56 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kitinerary/14/ [11:09] Hey folks [12:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2205: SUCCESS in 48 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2205/ [12:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2205: SUCCESS in 1 min 13 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2205/ [12:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2205: SUCCESS in 4 min 9 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2205/ [12:27] Does the kubuntu theme use system colors for the hilighting of the panels? I am trying to figure out how to edit those (from blue to something else) but I seem to have tried to edit all the colors to no avail. I tried to look through the these files for what svgz to edit and that also turned up short [12:34] itsfemme[m]: /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/default/widgets/tasks.svgz [12:34] Thank you [12:35] https://i.imgur.com/t5QrCwN.png [12:37] acheronuk: Do you get that view with the inkscape extension on the wiki? [12:38] not sure what you mean. I just opened in inkscape I have here. not done anything special I recall [12:39] I mean the XML object view [12:40] likely I had that open for last think I looked at (logos likely), and it just remembered [12:43] Ah, you are right it is called the Object Manager and is built into inkscape [14:10] hi, does anyone know why firefox works with highdpi in a ubuntu-gnome wayland session (18.04) but not with plasma-wayland? (it runs, but the scaling is horribly pixelated) [14:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2206: SUCCESS in 50 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2206/ [14:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2206: SUCCESS in 1 min 13 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2206/ [14:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2206: SUCCESS in 4 min 7 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2206/ [15:21] @nggraham is it still possible to make suggestions for the window tiling shortcuts we talked about before? I saw you make a task in phab for it and wanted to offer some options [15:25] all machines here upgraded to bionic with out hitch (ones which were not on it already and exluding neon) [15:25] actually I want to make suggestions for keyboard shortcuts for changing like 80% of them lol [15:26] @acheronuk, nice [15:26] @MichaelTun, my concern with that is confusing the hell out of existing KDE users :P [15:27] @acheronuk, meh [15:27] if we dont change for the better for fear of the old then we will forever be held back by the chain [15:28] but to be clear, I always want to push them upstream because so many default shortcuts are terrible. [15:28] Desktop Grid = Ctrl+F8 . . . that isn't just bad, that is super uber mega crap [15:48] I didnt realize those tiling shortcuts were going to be in 18.04. Those are better than nothing but they are problematic due to the limitations of KWin and since we know that KWin will not have any new X features the structure kind of has to change since it wont be compensated for === who_da_fly is now known as superfly === ghostcube is now known as ghostsquare === ghostsquare is now known as ghostcube === ghostcube is now known as ghostsquare === ghostsquare is now known as ghostcube [19:47] the problem with changing shortcuts is mostly Martin [19:47] I'm always up for it if the new one is better (IMHO) but Martin is incredibly conservative and you need to make an ironclad case that appeals to his sense of correctness [19:48] he will accept it immediately if you can convince him that the existing ons is somehow incorrect or violates a spec [19:48] all other arguments will fail [19:49] As a distro, we have the ability to go against upstream and patch in our own shortcuts at the risk of unfamiliarity. [19:49] we do, that's true [19:49] but IMHO it's better tro try to do it upstream first [19:52] Right. [20:01] @nggraham, there are no specs for shortcuts that I've ever seen. … there is no correct so there technically cant be an incorrect. … it essentially would be "these would make it easier to use" argument [20:02] I've had mixed luck with those, but it couldn't hurt to try. Can you make up a list of actions whose shortcuts you'd like changed, and to what? [20:02] @nggraham, I agree with attempting upstream but not obey it blindly. :) [20:02] @nggraham, that is what I am planning. There are quite a few. Essentially I am going to address all of the defaults and see if they need replacing or not === who_da_fly is now known as superfly [23:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #1089: SUCCESS in 5 min 58 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/1089/ [23:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_cantor build #108: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_cantor/108/