[08:37] <Karlenstein> hello!
[08:38] <Karlenstein> can someone answer to a simple question=
[08:38] <Karlenstein> ?
[08:38] <diogenes_> !ask | Karlenstein
[08:38] <Karlenstein> ok guys I'm sorry
[08:39] <Karlenstein> i act like in real life :D
[08:40] <Karlenstein> ok my question is: I have an old laptop that I use to learn python, the os is Lubuntu 17.10.1
[08:41] <Karlenstein> since 26th of April I'm trying to update to 18.04 (update manager and terminal) but I can't
[08:42] <diogenes_> try do-release-upgrade
[08:42] <Karlenstein> ty diogenes for the reply, I tried that command if I remember correctly, but I will try again
[08:44] <Karlenstein> (oops I wrote my question on 2 lines, my apologies)
[08:45] <Karlenstein> OK I tried do-release-upgrade but it says "no new release found"
[08:45] <leszek> Karlenstein: that is normal. Upgrade will take a month or so to be available for 17.10 users
[08:46] <leszek> usually the official upgrade is unlocked after 18.04.1 is out so most of the bugs of the 18.04 line are fixed until then
[08:46] <Karlenstein> Oh leszek really? wow that's why!
[08:47] <Karlenstein> I tried to find an answer on Google, with no luck
[08:48] <Karlenstein> Now I know I have to wait :)
[08:48] <Karlenstein> thank you Leszek and the others too
[08:51] <Karlenstein> Have a nice day, bye
[09:13] <JackRid> I'm new to Linux and tried installing Lurbuntu on an old laptop. Went fine until asked to reboot, then the the computer showed a few lines of text starting with [OK] and just got stuck there.
[09:14] <JackRid> the last line was: [OK] Started Tool to automatically collect and submit kernel crash signatures
[09:15] <JackRid> "kernel crash" does not seem like a good sign. Anyway, any ideas as to what I can do next?
[09:29] <Doada> how do i upgrade from lubuntu 17.10 to 18.04? do-release-upgrade says there is no new version
[09:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> be patient
[09:38] <Karlenstein> Hi Doada, one hour ago I asked the same question. User "diogenes_" told me to try "do-release-upgrade" but I had no success, like you
[09:38] <Karlenstein> Then user "leszek" told me this <that is normal. Upgrade will take a month or so to be available for 17.10 users>
[09:39] <Karlenstein> and then <usually the official upgrade is unlocked after 18.04.1 is out so most of the bugs of the 18.04 line are fixed until then>
[09:39] <Karlenstein> I hope this help you like it helped me to understand
[09:43] <Doada> thanks
[09:43] <JohnDoe_71Rus> https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-18-04-release-features/ end of page
[09:44] <Doada> so, when i do "do-release-upgrade -d" will it install the final 18.04 version or some beta?
[09:44] <JohnDoe_71Rus> no beta at the moment. latest in line is 18.04
[09:45] <Doada> i guess that's what I'm going to do then
[10:06] <Karlenstein> @Doada, I didn't know the "-d" option
[10:06] <Karlenstein> I'm trying that too
[10:08] <Karlenstein> As I said before, I use Lubuntu on an old laptop with no personal data and only Python IDLE installed
[10:24] <Karlenstein> quit
[15:17] <jork> can't find a hash for the 18.04 64bit desktop iso.
[16:32] <L00P3X> Hello \o/ .. I got a new Lubuntu system right now :) and the only thing i'm missing now are the hundred of beautiful fonts I had over ubuntu studio.. is there any contrast in installing ubuntustudio-fonts-meta or would you help me get some otherwise this machine? I would really apprrecciate it
[16:36] <krytarik> L00P3X: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntustudio-fonts - this is what it'll pull in, see for yourself.
[16:39] <L00P3X> there should be no contrast between studio and lubuntu I guess. newby paranoia :) just got a new system now.. thank you wery much
[16:59] <L00P3X> kyrtarik, just installed it, awesome thanks :)
[17:00] <krytarik> You are welcome. :)
[17:05] <L00P3X> thanks :) and.. before i do something bad.. im in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml.. i'm looking for a way to see the pannel only on the desktop they are.. by now if im on desktop 3 i see all pannels from 1 to all.. would like to split them
[17:22] <L00P3X> thank you again.. good evening.. i'm leaving
[18:42] <pr3c0g> hi all, I made a live usb pen of lubuntu to throubleshoot a laptop I have here. wifi is not working, I have a message on syslog saying "Operation not possible due to RF-kill"
[18:43] <pr3c0g> I've tried rfkill list and everything is set as NO (as in, no blocking, SW or HW). I've tried a lot of different stuff found by googling like removing iwl3945 and adding it again and so on, and I'm lost at the moment
[18:43] <blevyzga> how upgrade to 18.04
[18:44] <blevyzga> do-release-upgrade
[18:44] <pr3c0g> I plugged a network cable to do apt-get install net-tools, ifconfig wl4ps0 up says the same "SIOCSIFFLAS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill"
[18:44] <blevyzga> No new release found
[18:49] <diogenes_> blevyzga, and if you do: do-release-upgrade -d
[18:50] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, what network card do you have/.
[18:51] <pr3c0g> PRO/Wireless 3495ABG [GOLAN] Network Connection    <- this is the output of lshw -C network
[18:52] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, and the output of: sudo lspci -nnk | grep Net -A3
[18:52] <Teggun> Hello, in lxtask, is it possible to end a process by just using the keyboard? That being, navigating the list using the arrow keys and then hitting something to terminate a process? Also, if i'm currently having some hardware compatibility problems with 16.04, will switching to 18.04 possibly help with those in any way?
[18:52] <pr3c0g> one moment, quickly rebooting to check BIOS settings again
[18:53] <blevyzga> thank you diogenes
[18:57] <diogenes_> Teggun, theoretically you select a process and then hit the key next to the right alt key and it will pop up a menu which will give you the options to either stop, kill, terminate and so on
[18:59] <pr3c0g> diogenes_: ok, just ran it. I have no network in that laptop, I can remove the cable from my main pc and connect the laptop but I would like to avoid that. Something in there you want to see ?
[19:00] <pr3c0g> Kernel driver in use : iwl3945 | Kernel modules: iwl3495
[19:00] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, is that the only thing that came out?
[19:00] <pr3c0g> Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [GOLAN] Network Connection [8086:4222] (rev 02)
[19:01] <diogenes_> ok that's better
[19:01] <pr3c0g> subsystem: Intel COrporation WM3945ABG MOW2 [8086:4222]
[19:01] <diogenes_> so has it ever worked under linux before?
[19:01] <pr3c0g> this had windows installed on it, and I just booted up lubuntu from usb pen, so no
[19:02] <pr3c0g> because on windows I had basically no luck, tried everything I could find (remove power save option, uninstall/install, disable/enable, etc)
[19:02] <diogenes_> so it doesn't work on windows too?
[19:02] <pr3c0g> correct
[19:03] <diogenes_> did you install the appropriate driver for it on windows?
[19:03] <pr3c0g> yes, but I'd like to solve this on linux since I'm planning on sticking with it on this laptop
[19:04] <cristian__c> hello guys
[19:05] <Teggun> Unfortunately, nothing seems to happen when i hit that key whilst lxtask is in focus and i have a process selected. Not that big of a deal but i was wondering if there was a key combination i didn't know about to close applications.
[19:05] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, i'm afraid that the card is faulty if it doesn't work on windows then it's card's fault
[19:05] <cristian__c> I've installed dropbox but applet doesn't show droobpx icon and is not working
[19:05] <pr3c0g> this is some kind of hardware kill switch that I cannot reverse, even though rfkill list doesn't state anything blocked, the syslog says "possible due to RF-kill"
[19:05] <diogenes_> Teggun, does it show the menu when you right click on a process?
[19:05] <Teggun> Yes, it does
[19:05] <cristian__c> I've created a new autostart entry changing dropbox launch command
[19:06] <Teggun> But i'd like to manage the processes entirely by mouse in lxtask, if it's possible. Though it's not critical.
[19:06] <cristian__c> unfortunately, dropbox default autostart is often enabled by the system, even if I disable it by lxsession
[19:06] <diogenes_> Teggun, then the key which imitates right click, should show you the same menu
[19:07] <cristian__c> I've tried some workarounds but I don't know how to delete default dropbox autostart entry (in order to use custom new dropbox launch autostart)
[19:07] <cristian__c> Any ideas?
[19:07] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, once again, if it doesn't work on windows with the original driver, then more than 98% the card is broken
[19:07] <Teggun> Unfortunately it seems to be working in every other application except for lxtask for some reason.
[19:07] <pr3c0g> I understand, thanks for the help
[19:08] <diogenes_> Teggun, then install gnome-system-monitor and use that one
[19:10] <Teggun> What about the upgrade, will upgrading to 18.04 have the possibility of helping with any hardware compatibility problems i'm currently having with 16.04?
[19:11] <cristian__c> it could be dangerous upgrading
[19:11] <diogenes_> incompatibility?
[19:11] <cristian__c> for example, I've installed a new lubuntu version that broke dropbox compatibikity
[19:12] <Teggun> Currently with 16.04 i can't suspend or hibernate my system so i'm wondering if doing an upgrade would help with that.
[20:08] <pr3c0g> diogenes_: hey, thought you'd like to know
[20:08] <pr3c0g> I actually managed to solve it by updating the bios
[20:08] <pr3c0g> i hate it that i don't understand it, but it worked
[20:09] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, indeed who would have thought it was bios