[08:37] <Karlenstein> hello!
[08:38] <Karlenstein> can someone answer to a simple question=
[08:38] <Karlenstein> ?
[08:38] <diogenes_> !ask | Karlenstein
[08:38] <ubottu> Karlenstein: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[08:38] <Karlenstein> ok guys I'm sorry
[08:39] <Karlenstein> i act like in real life :D
[08:40] <Karlenstein> ok my question is: I have an old laptop that I use to learn python, the os is Lubuntu 17.10.1
[08:41] <Karlenstein> since 26th of April I'm trying to update to 18.04 (update manager and terminal) but I can't
[08:42] <diogenes_> try do-release-upgrade
[08:42] <Karlenstein> ty diogenes for the reply, I tried that command if I remember correctly, but I will try again
[08:44] <Karlenstein> (oops I wrote my question on 2 lines, my apologies)
[08:45] <Karlenstein> OK I tried do-release-upgrade but it says "no new release found"
[08:45] <leszek> Karlenstein: that is normal. Upgrade will take a month or so to be available for 17.10 users
[08:46] <leszek> usually the official upgrade is unlocked after 18.04.1 is out so most of the bugs of the 18.04 line are fixed until then
[08:46] <Karlenstein> Oh leszek really? wow that's why!
[08:47] <Karlenstein> I tried to find an answer on Google, with no luck
[08:48] <Karlenstein> Now I know I have to wait :)
[08:48] <Karlenstein> thank you Leszek and the others too
[08:51] <Karlenstein> Have a nice day, bye
[09:13] <JackRid> I'm new to Linux and tried installing Lurbuntu on an old laptop. Went fine until asked to reboot, then the the computer showed a few lines of text starting with [OK] and just got stuck there.
[09:14] <JackRid> the last line was: [OK] Started Tool to automatically collect and submit kernel crash signatures
[09:15] <JackRid> "kernel crash" does not seem like a good sign. Anyway, any ideas as to what I can do next?
[09:29] <Doada> how do i upgrade from lubuntu 17.10 to 18.04? do-release-upgrade says there is no new version
[09:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> be patient
[09:38] <Karlenstein> Hi Doada, one hour ago I asked the same question. User "diogenes_" told me to try "do-release-upgrade" but I had no success, like you
[09:38] <Karlenstein> Then user "leszek" told me this <that is normal. Upgrade will take a month or so to be available for 17.10 users>
[09:39] <Karlenstein> and then <usually the official upgrade is unlocked after 18.04.1 is out so most of the bugs of the 18.04 line are fixed until then>
[09:39] <Karlenstein> I hope this help you like it helped me to understand
[09:43] <Doada> thanks
[09:43] <JohnDoe_71Rus> https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-18-04-release-features/ end of page
[09:44] <Doada> so, when i do "do-release-upgrade -d" will it install the final 18.04 version or some beta?
[09:44] <JohnDoe_71Rus> no beta at the moment. latest in line is 18.04
[09:45] <Doada> i guess that's what I'm going to do then
[10:06] <Karlenstein> @Doada, I didn't know the "-d" option
[10:06] <Karlenstein> I'm trying that too
[10:08] <Karlenstein> As I said before, I use Lubuntu on an old laptop with no personal data and only Python IDLE installed
[10:24] <Karlenstein> quit
[15:17] <jork> can't find a hash for the 18.04 64bit desktop iso.
[16:32] <L00P3X> Hello \o/ .. I got a new Lubuntu system right now :) and the only thing i'm missing now are the hundred of beautiful fonts I had over ubuntu studio.. is there any contrast in installing ubuntustudio-fonts-meta or would you help me get some otherwise this machine? I would really apprrecciate it
[16:36] <krytarik> L00P3X: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntustudio-fonts - this is what it'll pull in, see for yourself.
[16:39] <L00P3X> there should be no contrast between studio and lubuntu I guess. newby paranoia :) just got a new system now.. thank you wery much
[16:59] <L00P3X> kyrtarik, just installed it, awesome thanks :)
[17:00] <krytarik> You are welcome. :)
[17:05] <L00P3X> thanks :) and.. before i do something bad.. im in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml.. i'm looking for a way to see the pannel only on the desktop they are.. by now if im on desktop 3 i see all pannels from 1 to all.. would like to split them
[17:22] <L00P3X> thank you again.. good evening.. i'm leaving
[18:42] <pr3c0g> hi all, I made a live usb pen of lubuntu to throubleshoot a laptop I have here. wifi is not working, I have a message on syslog saying "Operation not possible due to RF-kill"
[18:43] <pr3c0g> I've tried rfkill list and everything is set as NO (as in, no blocking, SW or HW). I've tried a lot of different stuff found by googling like removing iwl3945 and adding it again and so on, and I'm lost at the moment
[18:43] <blevyzga> how upgrade to 18.04
[18:44] <blevyzga> do-release-upgrade
[18:44] <pr3c0g> I plugged a network cable to do apt-get install net-tools, ifconfig wl4ps0 up says the same "SIOCSIFFLAS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill"
[18:44] <blevyzga> No new release found
[18:49] <diogenes_> blevyzga, and if you do: do-release-upgrade -d
[18:50] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, what network card do you have/.
[18:51] <pr3c0g> PRO/Wireless 3495ABG [GOLAN] Network Connection    <- this is the output of lshw -C network
[18:52] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, and the output of: sudo lspci -nnk | grep Net -A3
[18:52] <Teggun> Hello, in lxtask, is it possible to end a process by just using the keyboard? That being, navigating the list using the arrow keys and then hitting something to terminate a process? Also, if i'm currently having some hardware compatibility problems with 16.04, will switching to 18.04 possibly help with those in any way?
[18:52] <pr3c0g> one moment, quickly rebooting to check BIOS settings again
[18:53] <blevyzga> thank you diogenes
[18:57] <diogenes_> Teggun, theoretically you select a process and then hit the key next to the right alt key and it will pop up a menu which will give you the options to either stop, kill, terminate and so on
[18:59] <pr3c0g> diogenes_: ok, just ran it. I have no network in that laptop, I can remove the cable from my main pc and connect the laptop but I would like to avoid that. Something in there you want to see ?
[19:00] <pr3c0g> Kernel driver in use : iwl3945 | Kernel modules: iwl3495
[19:00] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, is that the only thing that came out?
[19:00] <pr3c0g> Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [GOLAN] Network Connection [8086:4222] (rev 02)
[19:01] <diogenes_> ok that's better
[19:01] <pr3c0g> subsystem: Intel COrporation WM3945ABG MOW2 [8086:4222]
[19:01] <diogenes_> so has it ever worked under linux before?
[19:01] <pr3c0g> this had windows installed on it, and I just booted up lubuntu from usb pen, so no
[19:02] <pr3c0g> because on windows I had basically no luck, tried everything I could find (remove power save option, uninstall/install, disable/enable, etc)
[19:02] <diogenes_> so it doesn't work on windows too?
[19:02] <pr3c0g> correct
[19:03] <diogenes_> did you install the appropriate driver for it on windows?
[19:03] <pr3c0g> yes, but I'd like to solve this on linux since I'm planning on sticking with it on this laptop
[19:04] <cristian__c> hello guys
[19:05] <Teggun> Unfortunately, nothing seems to happen when i hit that key whilst lxtask is in focus and i have a process selected. Not that big of a deal but i was wondering if there was a key combination i didn't know about to close applications.
[19:05] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, i'm afraid that the card is faulty if it doesn't work on windows then it's card's fault
[19:05] <cristian__c> I've installed dropbox but applet doesn't show droobpx icon and is not working
[19:05] <pr3c0g> this is some kind of hardware kill switch that I cannot reverse, even though rfkill list doesn't state anything blocked, the syslog says "possible due to RF-kill"
[19:05] <diogenes_> Teggun, does it show the menu when you right click on a process?
[19:05] <Teggun> Yes, it does
[19:05] <cristian__c> I've created a new autostart entry changing dropbox launch command
[19:06] <Teggun> But i'd like to manage the processes entirely by mouse in lxtask, if it's possible. Though it's not critical.
[19:06] <cristian__c> unfortunately, dropbox default autostart is often enabled by the system, even if I disable it by lxsession
[19:06] <diogenes_> Teggun, then the key which imitates right click, should show you the same menu
[19:07] <cristian__c> I've tried some workarounds but I don't know how to delete default dropbox autostart entry (in order to use custom new dropbox launch autostart)
[19:07] <cristian__c> Any ideas?
[19:07] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, once again, if it doesn't work on windows with the original driver, then more than 98% the card is broken
[19:07] <Teggun> Unfortunately it seems to be working in every other application except for lxtask for some reason.
[19:07] <pr3c0g> I understand, thanks for the help
[19:08] <diogenes_> Teggun, then install gnome-system-monitor and use that one
[19:10] <Teggun> What about the upgrade, will upgrading to 18.04 have the possibility of helping with any hardware compatibility problems i'm currently having with 16.04?
[19:11] <cristian__c> it could be dangerous upgrading
[19:11] <diogenes_> incompatibility?
[19:11] <cristian__c> for example, I've installed a new lubuntu version that broke dropbox compatibikity
[19:12] <Teggun> Currently with 16.04 i can't suspend or hibernate my system so i'm wondering if doing an upgrade would help with that.
[20:08] <pr3c0g> diogenes_: hey, thought you'd like to know
[20:08] <pr3c0g> I actually managed to solve it by updating the bios
[20:08] <pr3c0g> i hate it that i don't understand it, but it worked
[20:09] <diogenes_> pr3c0g, indeed who would have thought it was bios