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ubptgbotMarkus Weber Shalom Salam мир Wisdom was added by: Markus Weber Shalom Salam мир Wisdom00:01
ubptgbot<romany_58> Purism and UBports officially collaborate to offer Ubuntu Touch on Librem 5 - https://puri.sm/posts/ubports-ubuntu-touch-on-librem5-collaboration/04:05
ubptgbotkrsNabhandary was added by: krsNabhandary04:08
ubptgbot<eszklar> UBports on a Librem 5. Interesting.04:10
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Markus Weber Shalom Salam мир Wisdom, Hello Markus and Paul.  To find out more about UBports,  check out the pages at … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome05:04
ubptgbotlecter94 was added by: lecter9406:55
ubptgbot<lecter94> hello guys,06:57
ubptgbot<lecter94> can i install Ubuntu touch in Xiaomi phones?06:57
ubptgbot<LarreaMikel> afaik, no... check http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices06:58
ubptgbot<LarreaMikel> and welcome!06:58
ubptgbot<lecter94> ok, thank you07:01
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome Markus Weber & @krsNabhandary !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome07:07
ubptgbotEric Van Deurzen was added by: Eric Van Deurzen07:52
ubptgbot<Eric Van Deurzen> Hello, my name is Eric and I'm a new UBports Enthousiast07:54
ubptgbot<Eric Van Deurzen> Is was wondering if and where I can Find the rootfs for X86 devices07:55
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> i don't think we have one to be honest08:02
ubptgbot<Eric Van Deurzen> Pitty as the manual shows let is know i was Thinking perhaps there is a beta or workaround08:06
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> i guess it depends what you're looking for08:49
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> most tablets just install regular ubuntu with the unity8 interface through packages08:49
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> for the few atom phones it's more difficult i think - there's a KDE rootfs (by ilya)08:49
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> what are you aiming to use it for?09:34
ubptgbot<Christof> librem09:34
ubptgbot<Georgecloon> @Eric Van Deurzen, Welcome Eric, we have a Dutch group that you're welcome to join if you want to: t.me/UBports_NL09:51
ubptgbot<Eric Van Deurzen> Thanks george09:52
ubptgbot<advocatux> He can invite you to a nespresso cup too 😆09:54
ubptgbot<Georgecloon> What else? ☕09:58
ubptgbot<advocatux> 😂09:58
ubptgbot<Eric Van Deurzen> Hi Rogier I have a Samsung tab 3 10.1 catching dust do I want Linux on IT that's why I Landed here09:59
ubptgbot<JoshuaAshton> Hello! I'm looking for a new phone. Any suggestions.10:26
ubptgbot<advocatux> @JoshuaAshton, See http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices and depending on your budget...10:27
ubptgbot<jonny> @Eric Van Deurzen, I think you might find more answers in the Halium group: https://t.me/halium11:02
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Probably not. x86 is currently not supported by Ubuntu Touch. Also, the difficulty of porting such a device depends on if it was shipped with android or Windows (non-phone variant).11:05
ubptgbot<Eric Van Deurzen> Ok thanks well IT was shipped with android and only wifi11:22
ubptgbot<ennedin> Hej. … Is there any source for learning more about debugging apps on 16.04? My first try to find more information about a non-starting app led me to .cache/upstart/unity8.log because there wasn't even a special log file for the app itself in .cache/upstart/11:50
ubptgbot<ennedin> But there I only found one line useful at all which told me … ```qtmir.applications: ApplicationManager::onProcessFailed```11:53
ubptgbotCuenta eliminada was added by: Cuenta eliminada12:27
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Cuenta eliminada, Welcome Cuenta. Be sure to check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome12:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> @ennedin, what app?12:34
ubptgbot<ennedin> kaidanim12:35
ubptgbot<ennedin> [Edit] kaidan12:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> installed from the store? i think it's only compiled for 15.0412:36
ubptgbot<ennedin> https://github.com/KaidanIM/Kaidan … on mako (Nexus 4) 16.04 but compilation is as the github page tells me for 16.04 only.12:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> @JBBgameich ^^ maybe you can help?12:38
ubptgbot<ennedin> Built with clickable in my Maschine.12:38
ubptgbot<ennedin> THX, i wrote with him in different channels think i ping him directly & personally.12:39
ubptgbot<ennedin> Do not want to disturb all the time.12:39
ubptgbot<ennedin> @JBBgameich may I start a private chat here on telegram?12:40
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @dohbee, I did the initial port to Ubuntu Touch, which alrady sort of worked, but now the old build soesn't work on the new Ubuntu Touch Xenial image anymore and I have no idea why. So I can not really help. Kaidan depends on Xenial because it needs Qt 5.9 btw-12:40
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @ennedin, Sure. Or even better, I invite you to our Telegram group ...12:40
ubptgbot<ennedin> 👍12:40
ubptgbot<ennedin> Thanks.12:40
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @dohbee, [Edit] I did the initial port to Ubuntu Touch, which alrady sort of worked, but now the old build doesn't work on the new Ubuntu Touch Xenial image anymore and I have no idea why. So I can not really help. Kaidan depends on Xenial because it needs Qt 5.9 btw-12:42
ubptgbotDed_sec2 was added by: Ded_sec213:03
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Ded_sec2, welcome, Сергей! Be sure to check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome13:04
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 365x198) https://irc.ubports.com/rmOqnv09.png qt... what are you doing.13:15
ubptgbotBono Bob was added by: Bono Bob13:21
ubptgbot<Thomas> Handmade Bicycle Show Australia 2018: The bigwigs | CyclingTips … https://cyclingtips.com/2018/04/handmade-bicycle-show-australia-2018-the-bigwigs/13:31
ubptgbot<Flohack> @UniversalSuperBox, Perfectly clear13:34
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ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> Welcome @Ded_sec2 !  take a look at this link for language groups as well as other helpful stuff to get you started:  https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome13:51
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> Also, Bono , that link is for you :)13:51
ubptgbot<vanyasem> Ded sec lol. Wd ftw13:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @vanyasem, uh13:53
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @UniversalSuperBox, I am outside hacking your smart fence just a sec13:53
ubptgbot<dohbee> ded sec? sounds more like grave robbing14:05
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @dohbee, It's a group of hackers from Watch Dogs14:07
ubptgbotAlkesh Sharma was added by: Alkesh Sharma14:09
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So, it appears that Qt Locales get their date format information directly from Unicode's CLDR project14:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And CLDR's short date format has been correct for Portuguese for at least the last 11 releases14:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So... how does this bug even14:10
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome Alkesh!!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed14:14
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> domingo is spanish14:16
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's also Portuguese14:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, maybe a bug in libicu?14:20
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, Well, according to https://wiki.qt.io/Locales#QLocale, all of the information comes from CLDR data internal to Qt when you're not using the system locale14:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> but qt uses libicu internally no, which is where the CLDR data comes from?14:21
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> How did we go from 1500 to 1525 in like 2 days.  :) ha14:22
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well... how would I test that14:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> i'm trying to figure out how to do that with pyicu right now14:22
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The bug appears to occur on all Linux implementations of Qt that I've tested so far, and it's on both 5.9 and 5.1014:24
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> You know... if we're not able to figure this out, we could cut the dates to three characters so they fit on the indicator. Do any languages use more than three characters in short date names to anyone's knowledge?14:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> no idea, but hacks that have to be distributed among multiple places are generally a bad way to go14:37
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yep14:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> and just copying the first three bytes is going to probably break on some languages, like arabic, for example14:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> bah i don't know how to make icu format with short text14:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> it just gives me "01/04/18"14:54
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Wow, dates are... complex14:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, icu is complex14:57
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Does how Qt did it make any more sense? https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/a37dd93defd91b79fb6730d0ff0515a66a0d3972/src/corelib/tools/qlocale.cpp#L254814:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, libicu seems to work here15:01
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> hmmmmmmm15:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> i mean, qt's API makes sense15:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> but i can't find the actual contents of the tables it's using there, so hard to say what's going on15:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> plus it does work correctly in all the other langs apparently15:02
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So... do we raise it on the Qt bug tracker?15:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> seems like it is appropriate to do so15:06
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Alrighty15:06
ubptgbot<dohbee> i wonder if kde/plasma has a similar bug open somewhere for their calendars15:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> ah-hah15:08
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> ah-hah?15:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> maybe first verify it with https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-controls-calendar.html15:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, i need to get lunch15:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 994x397) https://irc.ubports.com/TZgdFyOZ.png ah-hah!15:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's broken here too!15:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Raised. Let me know if I missed anthing. https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-6802115:35
ubptgbot<DanChapman> Not ideal but could you not use Locale.NarrowFormat temporarily? It would appear like `M T W T F S S` providing the locale supports narrow formats15:39
ubptgbot<DanChapman> [Edit] Not ideal but could you not use Locale.NarrowFormat temporarily? It would appear like `S M T W T F S` providing the locale supports narrow formats15:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It'd have to be done both in calendar-app and the indicator either way15:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah, would be good to avoid that16:36
ubptgbotignorare was added by: ignorare16:41
ubptgbot<ignorare> Guys, does someone of you have this awesome "Amsterdam"-ringtone from Ubuntu Touch?16:41
ubptgbot<ignorare> I can't find the directory where it's stored... 😁16:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> should be in `/usr/share/sounds`16:41
ubptgbot<ignorare> Actually it is not a ringtone, it is a message notification tone.16:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> probably under 'suru'16:42
ubptgbot<ignorare> @dohbee, How to get there? Unlock the file manager?16:42
ubptgbot<ignorare> Got it! Thanks @dohbee!16:45
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> Don't mention it.  I taught @dohbee everything he knows...17:16
ubptgbotaskuccio was added by: askuccio17:20
ubptgbot<askuccio> hello!17:20
ubptgbot<askuccio> there is any porting guide for ubuntu touch?17:20
ubptgbotmeagbenyegah was added by: meagbenyegah17:21
ubptgbot<milkor73> @meagbenyegah, Welcome Guiro, @askuccio / Valerio and @ignorare / Dave. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed17:23
ubptgbot<askuccio> @milkor73, rnx17:24
ubptgbot<askuccio> tnx*17:27
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @askuccio, You have to start with Halium. It would be a good idea to get familiar with that17:35
ubptgbot<Stereofont> halium.org17:36
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> This might also be interesting if you want to port Ubuntu Touch: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html17:37
ubptgbot<Stereofont> https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html17:37
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Haha17:37
ubptgbotseanho was added by: seanho17:40
ubptgbot<amolith> @seanho, Welcome, Sean! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome & Install room!17:43
ubptgbotBill Bradshaw was added by: Bill Bradshaw18:19
ubptgbot<amolith> @Bill Bradshaw, Welcome, Bill! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started! If you have any questions ro concerns, feel free to ask here or in out Welcome & Install room!18:29
ubptgbotScott Mathias was added by: Scott Mathias19:52
ubptgbot<Scott Mathias> Hi, I'm sure this has been brought up a million times, but I can't get ut to install on my nexus 519:53
ubptgbot<Scott Mathias> I don't know if anyone would be willing or able to try and walk me through what I need to do to get the installer working on windows19:53
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Scott Mathias, Hi Scott, welcome. See http://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started19:54
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Scott Mathias, You can go to https://t.me/WelcomePlus to get help19:54
ubptgbot<amolith> Do we have an XMPP client?20:58
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes/no21:01
ubptgbot<TronFortyTwo> @amolith, There is Loqui, but it's not working great and is officially discontinued21:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> i think telepathy-gabble is technically installed in the image, but there's no UI to add an account, or chat21:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> plus you still have the issue of confinement/app lifecycle21:41
ubptgbot<TronFortyTwo> With Libertine you can install a standard XMPP client21:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> you can't run it on nexus 5 though, due to the weird bug there21:44
ubptgbot<TronFortyTwo> yes21:45
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There's Kaidan, which has a click that we broke21:51
ubptgbotlinwer was added by: linwer22:06
ubptgbot<milkor73> @linwer, Welcome linwer. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed22:09
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, well it requires qt 5.9 and 16.04 though22:18
ubptgbot<amolith> Is there any way to get notifications from the Hangouts app? I dislike using Google services but that's the best way to contact my father. He has two phone and I never know which one he has on him but he's logged into the same Google account on both lol23:39

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