[00:01] <ubptgbot> Markus Weber Shalom Salam мир Wisdom was added by: Markus Weber Shalom Salam мир Wisdom
[04:05] <ubptgbot> <romany_58> Purism and UBports officially collaborate to offer Ubuntu Touch on Librem 5 - https://puri.sm/posts/ubports-ubuntu-touch-on-librem5-collaboration/
[04:08] <ubptgbot> krsNabhandary was added by: krsNabhandary
[04:10] <ubptgbot> <eszklar> UBports on a Librem 5. Interesting.
[05:04] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Markus Weber Shalom Salam мир Wisdom, Hello Markus and Paul.  To find out more about UBports,  check out the pages at … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[06:55] <ubptgbot> lecter94 was added by: lecter94
[06:57] <ubptgbot> <lecter94> hello guys,
[06:57] <ubptgbot> <lecter94> can i install Ubuntu touch in Xiaomi phones?
[06:58] <ubptgbot> <LarreaMikel> afaik, no... check http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
[06:58] <ubptgbot> <LarreaMikel> and welcome!
[07:01] <ubptgbot> <lecter94> ok, thank you
[07:07] <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome Markus Weber & @krsNabhandary !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[07:52] <ubptgbot> Eric Van Deurzen was added by: Eric Van Deurzen
[07:54] <ubptgbot> <Eric Van Deurzen> Hello, my name is Eric and I'm a new UBports Enthousiast
[07:55] <ubptgbot> <Eric Van Deurzen> Is was wondering if and where I can Find the rootfs for X86 devices
[08:02] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> i don't think we have one to be honest
[08:06] <ubptgbot> <Eric Van Deurzen> Pitty as the manual shows let is know i was Thinking perhaps there is a beta or workaround
[08:49] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> i guess it depends what you're looking for
[08:49] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> most tablets just install regular ubuntu with the unity8 interface through packages
[08:49] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> for the few atom phones it's more difficult i think - there's a KDE rootfs (by ilya)
[09:34] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> what are you aiming to use it for?
[09:34] <ubptgbot> <Christof> librem
[09:51] <ubptgbot> <Georgecloon> @Eric Van Deurzen, Welcome Eric, we have a Dutch group that you're welcome to join if you want to: t.me/UBports_NL
[09:52] <ubptgbot> <Eric Van Deurzen> Thanks george
[09:54] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> He can invite you to a nespresso cup too 😆
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <Georgecloon> What else? ☕
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> 😂
[09:59] <ubptgbot> <Eric Van Deurzen> Hi Rogier I have a Samsung tab 3 10.1 catching dust do I want Linux on IT that's why I Landed here
[10:26] <ubptgbot> <JoshuaAshton> Hello! I'm looking for a new phone. Any suggestions.
[10:27] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @JoshuaAshton, See http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices and depending on your budget...
[11:02] <ubptgbot> <jonny> @Eric Van Deurzen, I think you might find more answers in the Halium group: https://t.me/halium
[11:05] <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> Probably not. x86 is currently not supported by Ubuntu Touch. Also, the difficulty of porting such a device depends on if it was shipped with android or Windows (non-phone variant).
[11:22] <ubptgbot> <Eric Van Deurzen> Ok thanks well IT was shipped with android and only wifi
[11:50] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> Hej. … Is there any source for learning more about debugging apps on 16.04? My first try to find more information about a non-starting app led me to .cache/upstart/unity8.log because there wasn't even a special log file for the app itself in .cache/upstart/
[11:53] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> But there I only found one line useful at all which told me … ```qtmir.applications: ApplicationManager::onProcessFailed```
[12:27] <ubptgbot> Cuenta eliminada was added by: Cuenta eliminada
[12:28] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> @Cuenta eliminada, Welcome Cuenta. Be sure to check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[12:34] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @ennedin, what app?
[12:35] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> kaidanim
[12:35] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> [Edit] kaidan
[12:36] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> installed from the store? i think it's only compiled for 15.04
[12:37] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> https://github.com/KaidanIM/Kaidan … on mako (Nexus 4) 16.04 but compilation is as the github page tells me for 16.04 only.
[12:38] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @JBBgameich ^^ maybe you can help?
[12:38] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> Built with clickable in my Maschine.
[12:39] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> THX, i wrote with him in different channels think i ping him directly & personally.
[12:39] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> Do not want to disturb all the time.
[12:40] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> @JBBgameich may I start a private chat here on telegram?
[12:40] <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> @dohbee, I did the initial port to Ubuntu Touch, which alrady sort of worked, but now the old build soesn't work on the new Ubuntu Touch Xenial image anymore and I have no idea why. So I can not really help. Kaidan depends on Xenial because it needs Qt 5.9 btw-
[12:40] <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> @ennedin, Sure. Or even better, I invite you to our Telegram group ...
[12:40] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> 👍
[12:40] <ubptgbot> <ennedin> Thanks.
[12:42] <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> @dohbee, [Edit] I did the initial port to Ubuntu Touch, which alrady sort of worked, but now the old build doesn't work on the new Ubuntu Touch Xenial image anymore and I have no idea why. So I can not really help. Kaidan depends on Xenial because it needs Qt 5.9 btw-
[13:03] <ubptgbot> Ded_sec2 was added by: Ded_sec2
[13:04] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> @Ded_sec2, welcome, Сергей! Be sure to check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[13:15] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 365x198) https://irc.ubports.com/rmOqnv09.png qt... what are you doing.
[13:21] <ubptgbot> Bono Bob was added by: Bono Bob
[13:31] <ubptgbot> <Thomas> Handmade Bicycle Show Australia 2018: The bigwigs | CyclingTips … https://cyclingtips.com/2018/04/handmade-bicycle-show-australia-2018-the-bigwigs/
[13:34] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @UniversalSuperBox, Perfectly clear
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[13:51] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Welcome @Ded_sec2 !  take a look at this link for language groups as well as other helpful stuff to get you started:  https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[13:51] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Also, Bono , that link is for you :)
[13:52] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> Ded sec lol. Wd ftw
[13:53] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> @vanyasem, uh
[13:53] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> @UniversalSuperBox, I am outside hacking your smart fence just a sec
[14:05] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> ded sec? sounds more like grave robbing
[14:07] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> @dohbee, It's a group of hackers from Watch Dogs
[14:09] <ubptgbot> Alkesh Sharma was added by: Alkesh Sharma
[14:10] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> So, it appears that Qt Locales get their date format information directly from Unicode's CLDR project
[14:10] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> And CLDR's short date format has been correct for Portuguese for at least the last 11 releases
[14:10] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> So... how does this bug even
[14:14] <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome Alkesh!!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
[14:16] <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> domingo is spanish
[14:19] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It's also Portuguese
[14:20] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, maybe a bug in libicu?
[14:21] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, Well, according to https://wiki.qt.io/Locales#QLocale, all of the information comes from CLDR data internal to Qt when you're not using the system locale
[14:21] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> but qt uses libicu internally no, which is where the CLDR data comes from?
[14:22] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> How did we go from 1500 to 1525 in like 2 days.  :) ha
[14:22] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Well... how would I test that
[14:22] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i'm trying to figure out how to do that with pyicu right now
[14:24] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> The bug appears to occur on all Linux implementations of Qt that I've tested so far, and it's on both 5.9 and 5.10
[14:36] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> You know... if we're not able to figure this out, we could cut the dates to three characters so they fit on the indicator. Do any languages use more than three characters in short date names to anyone's knowledge?
[14:37] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no idea, but hacks that have to be distributed among multiple places are generally a bad way to go
[14:37] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Yep
[14:38] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> and just copying the first three bytes is going to probably break on some languages, like arabic, for example
[14:54] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> bah i don't know how to make icu format with short text
[14:54] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it just gives me "01/04/18"
[14:57] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Wow, dates are... complex
[14:57] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> well, icu is complex
[14:59] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Does how Qt did it make any more sense? https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/a37dd93defd91b79fb6730d0ff0515a66a0d3972/src/corelib/tools/qlocale.cpp#L2548
[15:01] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> well, libicu seems to work here
[15:01] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> hmmmmmmm
[15:02] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i mean, qt's API makes sense
[15:02] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> but i can't find the actual contents of the tables it's using there, so hard to say what's going on
[15:02] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> plus it does work correctly in all the other langs apparently
[15:05] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> So... do we raise it on the Qt bug tracker?
[15:06] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> seems like it is appropriate to do so
[15:06] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Alrighty
[15:07] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i wonder if kde/plasma has a similar bug open somewhere for their calendars
[15:08] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> ah-hah
[15:08] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> ah-hah?
[15:08] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> maybe first verify it with https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-controls-calendar.html
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> anyway, i need to get lunch
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 994x397) https://irc.ubports.com/TZgdFyOZ.png ah-hah!
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It's broken here too!
[15:35] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Raised. Let me know if I missed anthing. https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-68021
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <DanChapman> Not ideal but could you not use Locale.NarrowFormat temporarily? It would appear like `M T W T F S S` providing the locale supports narrow formats
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <DanChapman> [Edit] Not ideal but could you not use Locale.NarrowFormat temporarily? It would appear like `S M T W T F S` providing the locale supports narrow formats
[15:40] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It'd have to be done both in calendar-app and the indicator either way
[16:36] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yeah, would be good to avoid that
[16:41] <ubptgbot> ignorare was added by: ignorare
[16:41] <ubptgbot> <ignorare> Guys, does someone of you have this awesome "Amsterdam"-ringtone from Ubuntu Touch?
[16:41] <ubptgbot> <ignorare> I can't find the directory where it's stored... 😁
[16:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> should be in `/usr/share/sounds`
[16:41] <ubptgbot> <ignorare> Actually it is not a ringtone, it is a message notification tone.
[16:42] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> probably under 'suru'
[16:42] <ubptgbot> <ignorare> @dohbee, How to get there? Unlock the file manager?
[16:45] <ubptgbot> <ignorare> Got it! Thanks @dohbee!
[17:16] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Don't mention it.  I taught @dohbee everything he knows...
[17:20] <ubptgbot> askuccio was added by: askuccio
[17:20] <ubptgbot> <askuccio> hello!
[17:20] <ubptgbot> <askuccio> there is any porting guide for ubuntu touch?
[17:21] <ubptgbot> meagbenyegah was added by: meagbenyegah
[17:23] <ubptgbot> <milkor73> @meagbenyegah, Welcome Guiro, @askuccio / Valerio and @ignorare / Dave. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
[17:24] <ubptgbot> <askuccio> @milkor73, rnx
[17:27] <ubptgbot> <askuccio> tnx*
[17:35] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @askuccio, You have to start with Halium. It would be a good idea to get familiar with that
[17:36] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> halium.org
[17:37] <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> This might also be interesting if you want to port Ubuntu Touch: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
[17:37] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
[17:37] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Haha
[17:40] <ubptgbot> seanho was added by: seanho
[17:43] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @seanho, Welcome, Sean! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome & Install room!
[18:19] <ubptgbot> Bill Bradshaw was added by: Bill Bradshaw
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @Bill Bradshaw, Welcome, Bill! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started! If you have any questions ro concerns, feel free to ask here or in out Welcome & Install room!
[19:52] <ubptgbot> Scott Mathias was added by: Scott Mathias
[19:53] <ubptgbot> <Scott Mathias> Hi, I'm sure this has been brought up a million times, but I can't get ut to install on my nexus 5
[19:53] <ubptgbot> <Scott Mathias> I don't know if anyone would be willing or able to try and walk me through what I need to do to get the installer working on windows
[19:54] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Scott Mathias, Hi Scott, welcome. See http://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started
[19:54] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Scott Mathias, You can go to https://t.me/WelcomePlus to get help
[20:58] <ubptgbot> <amolith> Do we have an XMPP client?
[21:01] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yes/no
[21:40] <ubptgbot> <TronFortyTwo> @amolith, There is Loqui, but it's not working great and is officially discontinued
[21:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i think telepathy-gabble is technically installed in the image, but there's no UI to add an account, or chat
[21:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> plus you still have the issue of confinement/app lifecycle
[21:44] <ubptgbot> <TronFortyTwo> With Libertine you can install a standard XMPP client
[21:44] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you can't run it on nexus 5 though, due to the weird bug there
[21:45] <ubptgbot> <TronFortyTwo> yes
[21:51] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> There's Kaidan, which has a click that we broke
[22:06] <ubptgbot> linwer was added by: linwer
[22:09] <ubptgbot> <milkor73> @linwer, Welcome linwer. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
[22:18] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, well it requires qt 5.9 and 16.04 though
[23:39] <ubptgbot> <amolith> Is there any way to get notifications from the Hangouts app? I dislike using Google services but that's the best way to contact my father. He has two phone and I never know which one he has on him but he's logged into the same Google account on both lol