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ideomotionI must be OCD when I'm trying to reduce kubuntu's package count when the entire OS is only using 3% of my 250gb m2 ssd00:02
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nilohola .... alguien por aquí???02:00
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @nilo, Hola02:00
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @acheronuk is it Spanish allow here?02:00
niloI'm sorry, I yust installed Kubuntu 18.04 everything is ok less my wifi, what can i do?02:04
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @nilo, What's the problem with your wifi?02:05
niloI think, wifi is not recogniced, but i cant use the ifconfig comand. Im trying to install ifconfig02:07
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @nilo, Have you tried manual configuration of wpa_supplicant?02:13
nilono, there is not opcitions for wifii in my conexions config02:21
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @nilo, You could try adding your ISP configuration manually … And/or go to /etc/wpa_supplicant/ … And manually adjust default config02:23
niloI'm trying to use privative software for broadcom02:24
Lucifer_armasince he brought it up, why in the hell is ifconfig not installed by the iso image?02:24
Lucifer_armaI filter by MAC address on my wifi, which makes it impossible to install ifconfig until after I've added the MAC address to the filter, but I can't get the MAC address without ifconfig02:25
Lucifer_armaobviously we've employed workarounds, but when you're working-around a standard tool, something's not right02:25
Lucifer_armathis is probably a criticism for #ubuntu, though, isn't it?02:26
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @Lucifer_arma, ip addr is the ifconfig alternative02:28
Lucifer_armawow, I had no idea that even existed.  Like I said previously, I'm old school.  ;)02:29
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @Lucifer_arma, That's old school lol02:29
Lucifer_armanot the old school I went to :)02:29
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @Lucifer_arma, Btw, nettools is the package for ifconfig afaik02:29
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @Lucifer_arma, Lol02:30
michelGood evening02:30
Lucifer_armawe've been able to workaround the problem, mostly since the KDE network connection systray app actually puts the MAC address somewhere in the dialog02:30
Lucifer_armabut it's been, shall we say, disheartening when my Windows 10 son can get his mac address without thinking, and we have to fish in Kubuntu02:31
michelI just installed Kubuntu, I set up my outlook account in Kmail, all the folders are synced but I can not see anything. can someone help me?02:31
niloI just to finish to install provative controler for broadcom and my wifi works fine,02:32
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, I think you need the exchange package for that02:32
nilo:D02:33
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @nilo, I'm not on my laptop, so I can't really tell right now02:33
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @nilo, Wow, awesome02:33
nilothanks a lot02:34
michelI used the outlook imap and smtp settings....I can see all the folders in the account window. it synced all the folders however when I go to the mail kmail app. the screen is blank. I turned off (Killed) kmail restarted it and it is the same thing. the screen is blank02:34
michelI just installed Kubuntu 18.0402:35
michelMaybe I should mentione that I am a windows user who is trying to transition to Linux02:39
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, Well, I can't really help you right now, and it seem I'm the only one only. … Have you tried using Thunderbird or Mailspring?02:42
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, The above mentioned email client applications are damn good, worth checking02:42
michelok. I will check.02:43
michelThank you02:43
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, Welcome02:44
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, Also, don't give up in the transition from Windows to Linux. It might be rough on the first days, but, you just have to be patience and be willing to learn and read02:45
michelI am about to run out of patience. I am an MCSA. I wanted to take a break from having to fix maklwares and viruses from the windows side, but I am not finding peace thus far in Linux. I used Fedora, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome, Linux mint, Debian, and red hat. I decided to stick with Kubuntu for software availability, but I can not even use a build in app (Kmail) without having an issue02:49
micheland the thing is I am trying to push Linux on friends and family, but now I am having second taughts02:50
michelthoughts02:50
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, Don't get stuck with a single app02:51
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, Have you read on Google for a possible solution?02:51
michelYes, I search for a fix and nothing concrete yet02:52
micheland another problem. I try to run virtual machine so that I can install a windows virtual machine. well I get an error saying that I need to run /sbin/........ When i was installing Kubuntu, it never ask to create a root pasword. I try to access the root in terminal using SU command and the password is not correct02:56
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, Did you install VirtualBox?02:58
michelI got the message from virtualbox02:58
michelerror: /sbin/vboxconfig02:59
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, Try sudo -s02:59
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @michel, Yeah, but VirtualBox doesn't need root02:59
michelrun terminal...tried SU command to access root account. the installer did not create a root account like fedora does. Only created my account (administrator priviledges). even if I use my password it does not work03:00
michelok thanks for the sudo -s, but the error message this time is: "There were problems setting up virtualbox. To re-start the set-up process, run /sbin/vboxconfig as root.......but guess what? I am logged in as root now....terminal shows root@michel-home:~#03:04
michelstill not working03:04
michelgood night03:12
valorie!sudo03:43
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo03:43
valorieyou don't need root in ubuntu03:43
valorie!vbox03:44
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox03:44
valorieoh, he left03:44
valorieshoot03:44
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @valorie, lol03:46
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @valorie, Never mind, I think he gave up easy03:47
valoriethere is so much information available with a bit of looking03:47
valorieor patience03:47
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @valorie, Yeah03:48
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @valorie, And i couldn't help much either03:49
valorieit's good to get to know some of the common bot associations03:49
valoriethey are handy and quick03:49
valorie!root03:49
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo03:49
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @ubottu, Yeah03:51
valoriethe bot is immensely helpful03:52
valoriehttps://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=popularity%20DESC&page=003:53
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lordievaderGood morning06:11
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ricktimmis[m]Good Morning07:20
acheronukricktimmis[m]: good morning :)07:21
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andrewebdevHey. I installed 18.04 this weekend (previously Ubuntu Debian user). I'm finding something very odd happening with website sessions in Chrome which I never had in plain Ubuntu10:01
andrewebdevMany website I have to login every time I start my computer, so it doesn't quite remember my sessions10:01
andrewebdevIs there something going on there that's related to how Kubuntu opperates? Maybe a setting somewhere?10:02
diogenes_andrewebdev, maybe kwallet10:03
viktori want to encrypt certain existing folders in my home folder (e.g. ~/Documents). How best to do it? Simply make a vault, copy the contents to it and make the mount point into that folder..? or something else?10:12
diogenes_viktor, you can do: sudo chown root /path/yourfolder && sudo chmod 000 /path/yourfolder10:19
diogenes_and whenever you want to access it, you run: sudo chmod 777 /path/yourfolder10:20
viktordiogenes_: they wouldn't be encrypted? if someone stole my computer they could still chown or chmod the files themselves...10:25
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diogenes_viktor, only if they know your root passowrd10:28
viktordiogenes_: if they run a live OS on my computer or transfer my HDD in another computer, aren't they root?10:29
diogenes_viktor, you can try it with a live session, i haven't tried it10:30
viktordiogenes_: the solution you propose doesn't encrypt anything, it just denies access. if someone else got hold of the computer they could access the files i think10:31
diogenes_yep, i know it's not encrypting anything but for the local home use that's quite a simple solution10:32
viktordiogenes_: i guess that right. nut my concern is that i travel a lot and if someone would get hold of my computer they might access personal data10:33
viktor*but10:33
diogenes_viktor, then you would probably want to password protect your entire hard drive in bios10:34
diogenes_but it's always better to keep the most important data in the cloud10:35
user|98159Can anyone help with an install-from-USB problem, grub-efi-amd64-signed, hash sum mismatch?10:35
diogenes_user|98159, ohhh last time i came across that error i gave up on it :) it only happened on kubuntu and maui10:36
user|98159The syslog is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2fV7swZPXF/10:36
user|98159The downloaded iso was verified against sha256 checksum.10:37
user|98159Bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/176822110:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1768221 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 18.04 USB install fails with Hash Sum mismatch, grub-efi-amd64-signed error" [Undecided,New]10:37
viktordiogenes_: that would be the most safe solution. but the largest volume of my HDD actually isn't sensitive (music, videos,...), and that would slow down boot up unnecessarily. in previous ubuntu i solved the problem by encrypting the home folder and creating a different folder outside the home folder and making my user account the owner. but i don't have that option now. cloud is also not an option, i have to be without internet10:37
viktorconnection for long periods of time10:37
user|98159Seems like there are lots of reports of the grub-efi-amd64-signed bug, but less (none?) of the hash sum mismatch syslog report10:39
viktori was thinking i could make "vault folders" and make their mount points ~/Documents and such. But i don't know if that might create problems...?10:39
viktoruser|98159: i might be cpt obvious here, but maybe the download went wrong? if EFI is a problem, is it really necessary to use EFI rather then legacy?10:40
user|98159@viktor: iso was verified; could be the usb imaging was corrupted...10:43
user|98159ok, I'll try burning another image10:43
user|98159thanks10:43
lyrHi ! How can I set a new keymap (to us internationa;l so I can type accentuated char typing 'e ^e `a)10:57
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Guest78260Using 18.04 LTS, and there seems to be 2 issues. 1) A memory leak, plasmashell keeps increasing it's memory usage. I googled and previous causeshave been due to use of electron apps and global menus. I have both of those turned off. 2) KDE connect applet keeps crashing. It disconnects from my Android phone every few minutes11:31
Guest78260Does anyone have an further ideas/solutions?11:31
diogenes_Guest78260, for memory leak you could try disabling baloo and krunner and see if that helps11:32
Guest78260I checked krunner's memory usgae. It is separate and constant. But plasmashell keeps on having increased usage. Filling up 70% of my 12GB Ram.11:37
Guest78260usage*11:37
diogenes_that's pretty insane memory usage11:38
lapagaplasmashell is a steady 3.8% here11:39
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Guest78260Yep. That's the issue. And all of that just for plasmashell. krunner, kdeinit5 etc. have constant low usage11:40
BluesKajHi folks11:40
Guest78260Are you guys using the KDE version available with 18.04 by default, or any other backported version? (for those of you with low memory usage)11:41
lapagastandard although in vbox11:41
Guest78260I tested it in vbox before installing on a spare SSD, and then it was fine too. Can anyone else confirm the issues, and/or give fixes?11:44
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IrcsomeBotKrieger98 was added by: Krieger9814:33
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> how can i upgrade form 17.10 to 18.0414:34
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> ??14:34
genii@krieger98 Have you tried sudo do-release-upgrade yet?14:35
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> @genii, i tried  distro upgrade14:35
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> and dind't work14:35
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> althoug let me try that14:36
* genii makes more coffee14:36
* vespertatia grabs a cup14:36
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> *gags 'cause he almos drown jaja*14:37
geniidist-upgrade doesn't bump *buntu versions up to next one, it just does it to the latest version of the one you're already running, along with major version bumps for apps14:37
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> @genii, nothing14:38
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> it saysno new relese found14:38
nando_ciao14:43
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> @nando_, pronto?14:43
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> haha14:43
genii@krieger98 possibly Bionic has not been added to the stable releases which are available to upgrade to yet. Try with the -d switch, eg: sudo do-release-upgrade -d14:49
IrcsomeBot<carguello> @genii, No it doesn't, not yet14:51
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IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> its workin14:52
genii@krieger98 If you've already done a dist-upgrade on your 17.10 and no PPAs which conflict with standard *buntu repositories you should be fine from here then.14:55
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> @genii, no nothing form now14:56
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> (Photo, 930x508) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jXesYH41/file_6357.jpg see14:57
geniiIt will chug along for a while, depending on the speed of your system and the quality of your internet connection, and how busy the servers are14:57
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> @genii, omg i have everything againt me lol14:58
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> my internet speed is so slow lol14:58
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> and my computer is just 2gb of ram14:59
genii@krieger98 Time to go have a coffee, read the newspaper, etc etc then...15:00
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> @genii, lol15:00
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> it says it will take 2h15:01
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/4YsHeYEC/file_6358.webp15:01
lapagatry a mirror15:03
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> ow no no its my slow int connection15:04
IrcsomeBot<Krieger98> is 1mb15:04
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JMichaelXi am attempting to install the proprietary nvidia driver in 18.04, and am running into this:15:49
JMichaelXhttps://pastebin.com/0gC9ggeH15:49
JMichaelXanyone have a suggestion?15:49
acheronukJMichaelX: you are trying to install the drivers from a ppa, and you are fetching the ones from that ppa that were build fir 16.04 xenial.15:52
acheronukthat is quite likely to crash and burn15:52
acheronukswitch the ppa to bionic, or remove it completely and use the driver from the bionic main archive15:57
andinitHello, does anybody faced the issue to stuck on loading page while entering correct password. It's happened after I changed my password. I have another user and I can log on with it, but with my old one i cannot, doesnt helped me ./Xauthorisation permission neither or xtrl alt f2 and startx as well. it stucks16:13
andinitThere is some issue probably because my drive to the stucked user is encrypted16:13
BluesKajJMichaelX,  open system settings in the kmenu and look for Driver Manager, it will recommend a driver for your gpu after a scan16:14
geniiandinit: If it does this for a while and then returns to the login screen, likely it's some issue of permission in the user's home directory ( perhaps something was run as root whil in that directory, etc)16:15
andinitgenii: it doesn't returns to the login screen. I have been waiting with hours and it's trying to enter to the startx, but nothing happened, just a black "X" shows under my user.16:17
JMichaelXacheronuk: i encountered the same problem installing the nvidia driver, without the ppa16:17
JMichaelXBluesKaj: i also tried that (before installing the ppa). it did not work16:18
geniiandinit: That sounds more like you've got a different X desktop environment that's booting to by default now, something more simplistic that just gives you the old X and no frills16:18
TheFakeVIPhi16:19
geniiandinit: Should check in the login screen what default session it's using16:19
andinitgenii: but with the other user it boots normally, only with my old one.16:19
geniiandinit: Firstly, as stated, check that plasma is the default session for the user it isn't currently working for16:21
BluesKajJMichaelX, which gpu?16:21
TheFakeVIPI'm blind and am looking to try out kde on either kubuntu or kde neon. WWas wondering if anyone knew where orca was pre-installed and working?16:22
TheFakeVIPsorry, i mean if orca was pre-installed16:22
andinitgenii: how to check that?16:22
geniiandinit: On SDDM it's chosen by a dropdown on the left side, normally16:24
geniiMeh, work.16:24
JMichaelXacheronuk: also, the ppa says 'bionic'16:25
andinitgenii:  yes, it's plasma the default login session16:25
JMichaelXBluesKaj: [#kubuntu] BluesKaj:16:26
andinitgenii:  I do not have another session than plasma16:26
JMichaelXBluesKaj: GF108 (GT440)16:27
BluesKajJMichaelX, which driver did driver manager recommend ?016:34
BluesKajJMichaelX, it should have shown the nvidia-390 as recommended16:40
geniiandinit: I would suggest to switch to a tty with ctrl-alt-F1 or F2, and try logging in there with the affected user name.16:47
user|19836hey16:48
user|19836how can i update from 17.10 to 18.0416:48
andinitI already tried16:49
andinitgenii:  doesn't work in ths way, I already tryied.16:49
user|19836i used cl method16:49
user|19836it is updating16:49
geniiandinit: When you try by tty, what message do you get,, if any?16:49
BluesKajuser|19836, run sudo do-release-upgrade, and if that doesn't work , run sudo do-release-upgrade -d instead. Make sure you remove any ppas from /etc/apt/sources.list.d first.16:52
andinitgenii: I am loog in the /var/log Xorg.0.log16:53
andinitgenii: I am looking in the /var/log Xorg.0.log but there is nothing related16:53
geniiandinit: No, I mean, when you do the ctrl-alt-F# method to command line and try to log in as the user for which X is currently screwy, what happens?16:54
andinitgenii: it stucks into a black screen16:55
andinitgenii: nothing happened, couldnt boot startx16:55
* genii checks backscroll to see nwhere the misunderstanding begins16:56
andinitgenii: I found the following at ./xsessions-errors: kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/kwin-script.desktop, tried ("/root/.local/share", "/usr/share", "/usr/local/share") and ":/kservicetypes5/kwin-script.desktop" QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 834, resource id: 50331652, major code: 18 (ChangeProperty), minor code: 0 WARNING: Cannot find style "org.kde.desktop" - fal17:00
geniiandinit: When X is not working correctly, since it is not possible to enter X to fix X, the usual tactic is to use one of the other 6 TTYs which are available to use by command-line login to diagnose the issue. The other 6 TTY are available to enter from the TTY which is trying to use X by the key combination of CTRL and ALT and one of the F keys between 1 and 6, normally, all together.17:00
* genii goes to grab more coffee and a Tylenol17:01
geniiandinit: So if when you enter one of the other non-GUI TTYs and try to log in, either it should let you log in to the command-line as that user and put you in that directory which their home directory, or else give some message as to why it cannot17:03
andinitgenii: it found the root cause, it's all about the password i have changed. The landing page is trying to access encypted drive, and with the new password it cannot unlock it and it goes into a loop, stucking within the blue plasma logon page. After reverting the password it works, but now how to change the password and to boot into plasma without stucking on boot?17:07
andinitgenii: or how to change my password trough the terminal so that the encrypted drive to recognize it on boot next time?17:07
geniiandinit: Sorry, my lunch break has ended and work requires my attention now. But hopefully another helper will get around to assisting you, if you linger a while and repeat the issue every 5-10 minutes or so17:13
SzykCechIs it possible to run programs/scripts from usb stick?!?17:50
SzykCechI have faulty moniotor, so it will be usefull if I can store everything on usb stick...17:51
HimmelsYoshiCan I install Kubuntu on a Raspberry pi 3?17:58
geniiThe ARM port, yes17:59
geniiAlthough truthfully you'd probably want a different desktop than KDE on a pi18:00
HimmelsYoshigenii Why?18:02
HimmelsYoshigenii where do I get the ARM port?18:04
geniiHimmelsYoshi: Because resource-wise it consumes more than a desktop such as for instance LXDE/LXQt or XFCE18:04
genii...and then they leave before an answer can be given...18:06
andimitDoes anybody know a proper way of changing a password for encrypted drive on Kubuntu? Due to this I cannot startx as root, through terminal doesnt change the password neither... I am stucking in bootloop after I change my passwort and now i am able to log in only with user without administration permissions.18:38
andimitgenii: I did saw your reply because I still strugling with my issue, cannot change the passwort and now even cannot boot startx with root...18:39
andimitthe only way it works was through users management, but now I am not able to access other users due to lack of permissions to the only one user I can log into plasma. Is there a way to change the user though other command than sudo passwd?18:41
andimitHow can i change my system setting to be able to list other users through user manager?18:55
andimitgenii: do you have any idea abut my issue?19:24
valorieandimit: you are probably going to have to chroot in19:25
valoriefrom inside your system you have locked yourself out19:25
andimitvalorie: yes I have, do you have an idea how properly to change my passwd without stucking in such an issue?19:27
valorieas I said, it can be done, but you will have to ssh or more probably chroot in19:28
valoriegoogle about how to do it using a liveUSB19:28
valorieI've done it19:29
valorieso it isn't that difficult, because I'm no expert19:29
andimitI already have ssh. Does it mean though ssh i can change the passwd without issues?19:29
andimitvalorie: chroot doesn't felped me either. Still cannot boot plasma on all other users. The password issue still remains.20:04
comborico1611_Did Kubuntu 18 get rid of 1 click navigation in Dolphin?23:29

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