[00:02] <ideomotion> I must be OCD when I'm trying to reduce kubuntu's package count when the entire OS is only using 3% of my 250gb m2 ssd
[02:00] <nilo> hola .... alguien por aquí???
 @nilo, Hola
 @acheronuk is it Spanish allow here?
[02:04] <nilo> I'm sorry, I yust installed Kubuntu 18.04 everything is ok less my wifi, what can i do?
 @nilo, What's the problem with your wifi?
[02:07] <nilo> I think, wifi is not recogniced, but i cant use the ifconfig comand. Im trying to install ifconfig
 @nilo, Have you tried manual configuration of wpa_supplicant?
[02:21] <nilo> no, there is not opcitions for wifii in my conexions config
 @nilo, You could try adding your ISP configuration manually … And/or go to /etc/wpa_supplicant/ … And manually adjust default config
[02:24] <nilo> I'm trying to use privative software for broadcom
[02:24] <Lucifer_arma> since he brought it up, why in the hell is ifconfig not installed by the iso image?
[02:25] <Lucifer_arma> I filter by MAC address on my wifi, which makes it impossible to install ifconfig until after I've added the MAC address to the filter, but I can't get the MAC address without ifconfig
[02:25] <Lucifer_arma> obviously we've employed workarounds, but when you're working-around a standard tool, something's not right
[02:26] <Lucifer_arma> this is probably a criticism for #ubuntu, though, isn't it?
 @Lucifer_arma, ip addr is the ifconfig alternative
[02:29] <Lucifer_arma> wow, I had no idea that even existed.  Like I said previously, I'm old school.  ;)
 @Lucifer_arma, That's old school lol
[02:29] <Lucifer_arma> not the old school I went to :)
 @Lucifer_arma, Btw, nettools is the package for ifconfig afaik
 @Lucifer_arma, Lol
[02:30] <michel> Good evening
[02:30] <Lucifer_arma> we've been able to workaround the problem, mostly since the KDE network connection systray app actually puts the MAC address somewhere in the dialog
[02:31] <Lucifer_arma> but it's been, shall we say, disheartening when my Windows 10 son can get his mac address without thinking, and we have to fish in Kubuntu
[02:31] <michel> I just installed Kubuntu, I set up my outlook account in Kmail, all the folders are synced but I can not see anything. can someone help me?
[02:32] <nilo> I just to finish to install provative controler for broadcom and my wifi works fine,
 @michel, I think you need the exchange package for that
[02:33] <nilo> :D
 @nilo, I'm not on my laptop, so I can't really tell right now
 @nilo, Wow, awesome
[02:34] <nilo> thanks a lot
[02:34] <michel> I used the outlook imap and smtp settings....I can see all the folders in the account window. it synced all the folders however when I go to the mail kmail app. the screen is blank. I turned off (Killed) kmail restarted it and it is the same thing. the screen is blank
[02:35] <michel> I just installed Kubuntu 18.04
[02:39] <michel> Maybe I should mentione that I am a windows user who is trying to transition to Linux
 @michel, Well, I can't really help you right now, and it seem I'm the only one only. … Have you tried using Thunderbird or Mailspring?
 @michel, The above mentioned email client applications are damn good, worth checking
[02:43] <michel> ok. I will check.
[02:43] <michel> Thank you
 @michel, Welcome
 @michel, Also, don't give up in the transition from Windows to Linux. It might be rough on the first days, but, you just have to be patience and be willing to learn and read
[02:49] <michel> I am about to run out of patience. I am an MCSA. I wanted to take a break from having to fix maklwares and viruses from the windows side, but I am not finding peace thus far in Linux. I used Fedora, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome, Linux mint, Debian, and red hat. I decided to stick with Kubuntu for software availability, but I can not even use a build in app (Kmail) without having an issue
[02:50] <michel> and the thing is I am trying to push Linux on friends and family, but now I am having second taughts
[02:50] <michel> thoughts
 @michel, Don't get stuck with a single app
 @michel, Have you read on Google for a possible solution?
[02:52] <michel> Yes, I search for a fix and nothing concrete yet
[02:56] <michel> and another problem. I try to run virtual machine so that I can install a windows virtual machine. well I get an error saying that I need to run /sbin/........ When i was installing Kubuntu, it never ask to create a root pasword. I try to access the root in terminal using SU command and the password is not correct
 @michel, Did you install VirtualBox?
[02:58] <michel> I got the message from virtualbox
[02:59] <michel> error: /sbin/vboxconfig
 @michel, Try sudo -s
 @michel, Yeah, but VirtualBox doesn't need root
[03:00] <michel> run terminal...tried SU command to access root account. the installer did not create a root account like fedora does. Only created my account (administrator priviledges). even if I use my password it does not work
[03:04] <michel> ok thanks for the sudo -s, but the error message this time is: "There were problems setting up virtualbox. To re-start the set-up process, run /sbin/vboxconfig as root.......but guess what? I am logged in as root now....terminal shows root@michel-home:~#
[03:04] <michel> still not working
[03:12] <michel> good night
[03:43] <valorie> !sudo
[03:43] <valorie> you don't need root in ubuntu
[03:44] <valorie> !vbox
[03:44] <valorie> oh, he left
[03:44] <valorie> shoot
 @valorie, lol
 @valorie, Never mind, I think he gave up easy
[03:47] <valorie> there is so much information available with a bit of looking
[03:47] <valorie> or patience
 @valorie, Yeah
 @valorie, And i couldn't help much either
[03:49] <valorie> it's good to get to know some of the common bot associations
[03:49] <valorie> they are handy and quick
[03:49] <valorie> !root
 @ubottu, Yeah
[03:52] <valorie> the bot is immensely helpful
[03:53] <valorie> https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=popularity%20DESC&page=0
 Hello! Only 69 members? Lucky number 😇
[06:11] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:20] <ricktimmis[m]> Good Morning
[07:21] <acheronuk> ricktimmis[m]: good morning :)
[10:01] <andrewebdev> Hey. I installed 18.04 this weekend (previously Ubuntu Debian user). I'm finding something very odd happening with website sessions in Chrome which I never had in plain Ubuntu
[10:01] <andrewebdev> Many website I have to login every time I start my computer, so it doesn't quite remember my sessions
[10:02] <andrewebdev> Is there something going on there that's related to how Kubuntu opperates? Maybe a setting somewhere?
[10:03] <diogenes_> andrewebdev, maybe kwallet
[10:12] <viktor> i want to encrypt certain existing folders in my home folder (e.g. ~/Documents). How best to do it? Simply make a vault, copy the contents to it and make the mount point into that folder..? or something else?
[10:19] <diogenes_> viktor, you can do: sudo chown root /path/yourfolder && sudo chmod 000 /path/yourfolder
[10:20] <diogenes_> and whenever you want to access it, you run: sudo chmod 777 /path/yourfolder
[10:25] <viktor> diogenes_: they wouldn't be encrypted? if someone stole my computer they could still chown or chmod the files themselves...
[10:28] <diogenes_> viktor, only if they know your root passowrd
[10:29] <viktor> diogenes_: if they run a live OS on my computer or transfer my HDD in another computer, aren't they root?
[10:30] <diogenes_> viktor, you can try it with a live session, i haven't tried it
[10:31] <viktor> diogenes_: the solution you propose doesn't encrypt anything, it just denies access. if someone else got hold of the computer they could access the files i think
[10:32] <diogenes_> yep, i know it's not encrypting anything but for the local home use that's quite a simple solution
[10:33] <viktor> diogenes_: i guess that right. nut my concern is that i travel a lot and if someone would get hold of my computer they might access personal data
[10:33] <viktor> *but
[10:34] <diogenes_> viktor, then you would probably want to password protect your entire hard drive in bios
[10:35] <diogenes_> but it's always better to keep the most important data in the cloud
[10:35] <user|98159> Can anyone help with an install-from-USB problem, grub-efi-amd64-signed, hash sum mismatch?
[10:36] <diogenes_> user|98159, ohhh last time i came across that error i gave up on it :) it only happened on kubuntu and maui
[10:36] <user|98159> The syslog is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2fV7swZPXF/
[10:37] <user|98159> The downloaded iso was verified against sha256 checksum.
[10:37] <user|98159> Bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1768221
[10:37] <viktor> diogenes_: that would be the most safe solution. but the largest volume of my HDD actually isn't sensitive (music, videos,...), and that would slow down boot up unnecessarily. in previous ubuntu i solved the problem by encrypting the home folder and creating a different folder outside the home folder and making my user account the owner. but i don't have that option now. cloud is also not an option, i have to be without internet
[10:37] <viktor> connection for long periods of time
[10:39] <user|98159> Seems like there are lots of reports of the grub-efi-amd64-signed bug, but less (none?) of the hash sum mismatch syslog report
[10:39] <viktor> i was thinking i could make "vault folders" and make their mount points ~/Documents and such. But i don't know if that might create problems...?
[10:40] <viktor> user|98159: i might be cpt obvious here, but maybe the download went wrong? if EFI is a problem, is it really necessary to use EFI rather then legacy?
[10:43] <user|98159> @viktor: iso was verified; could be the usb imaging was corrupted...
[10:43] <user|98159> ok, I'll try burning another image
[10:43] <user|98159> thanks
[10:57] <lyr> Hi ! How can I set a new keymap (to us internationa;l so I can type accentuated char typing 'e ^e `a)
[11:31] <Guest78260> Using 18.04 LTS, and there seems to be 2 issues. 1) A memory leak, plasmashell keeps increasing it's memory usage. I googled and previous causeshave been due to use of electron apps and global menus. I have both of those turned off. 2) KDE connect applet keeps crashing. It disconnects from my Android phone every few minutes
[11:31] <Guest78260> Does anyone have an further ideas/solutions?
[11:32] <diogenes_> Guest78260, for memory leak you could try disabling baloo and krunner and see if that helps
[11:37] <Guest78260> I checked krunner's memory usgae. It is separate and constant. But plasmashell keeps on having increased usage. Filling up 70% of my 12GB Ram.
[11:37] <Guest78260> usage*
[11:38] <diogenes_> that's pretty insane memory usage
[11:39] <lapaga> plasmashell is a steady 3.8% here
[11:40] <Guest78260> Yep. That's the issue. And all of that just for plasmashell. krunner, kdeinit5 etc. have constant low usage
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:41] <Guest78260> Are you guys using the KDE version available with 18.04 by default, or any other backported version? (for those of you with low memory usage)
[11:41] <lapaga> standard although in vbox
[11:44] <Guest78260> I tested it in vbox before installing on a spare SSD, and then it was fine too. Can anyone else confirm the issues, and/or give fixes?
 how can i upgrade form 17.10 to 18.04
 ??
[14:35] <genii> @krieger98 Have you tried sudo do-release-upgrade yet?
 @genii, i tried  distro upgrade
 and dind't work
 althoug let me try that
[14:36]  * genii makes more coffee
[14:36]  * vespertatia grabs a cup
 *gags 'cause he almos drown jaja*
[14:37] <genii> dist-upgrade doesn't bump *buntu versions up to next one, it just does it to the latest version of the one you're already running, along with major version bumps for apps
 @genii, nothing
 it saysno new relese found
[14:43] <nando_> ciao
 @nando_, pronto?
 haha
[14:49] <genii> @krieger98 possibly Bionic has not been added to the stable releases which are available to upgrade to yet. Try with the -d switch, eg: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
 @genii, No it doesn't, not yet
 its workin
[14:55] <genii> @krieger98 If you've already done a dist-upgrade on your 17.10 and no PPAs which conflict with standard *buntu repositories you should be fine from here then.
 @genii, no nothing form now
 (Photo, 930x508) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jXesYH41/file_6357.jpg see
[14:57] <genii> It will chug along for a while, depending on the speed of your system and the quality of your internet connection, and how busy the servers are
 @genii, omg i have everything againt me lol
 my internet speed is so slow lol
 and my computer is just 2gb of ram
[15:00] <genii> @krieger98 Time to go have a coffee, read the newspaper, etc etc then...
 @genii, lol
 it says it will take 2h
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/4YsHeYEC/file_6358.webp
[15:03] <lapaga> try a mirror
 ow no no its my slow int connection
 is 1mb
[15:49] <JMichaelX> i am attempting to install the proprietary nvidia driver in 18.04, and am running into this:
[15:49] <JMichaelX> https://pastebin.com/0gC9ggeH
[15:49] <JMichaelX> anyone have a suggestion?
[15:52] <acheronuk> JMichaelX: you are trying to install the drivers from a ppa, and you are fetching the ones from that ppa that were build fir 16.04 xenial.
[15:52] <acheronuk> that is quite likely to crash and burn
[15:57] <acheronuk> switch the ppa to bionic, or remove it completely and use the driver from the bionic main archive
[16:13] <andinit> Hello, does anybody faced the issue to stuck on loading page while entering correct password. It's happened after I changed my password. I have another user and I can log on with it, but with my old one i cannot, doesnt helped me ./Xauthorisation permission neither or xtrl alt f2 and startx as well. it stucks
[16:13] <andinit> There is some issue probably because my drive to the stucked user is encrypted
[16:14] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX,  open system settings in the kmenu and look for Driver Manager, it will recommend a driver for your gpu after a scan
[16:15] <genii> andinit: If it does this for a while and then returns to the login screen, likely it's some issue of permission in the user's home directory ( perhaps something was run as root whil in that directory, etc)
[16:17] <andinit> genii: it doesn't returns to the login screen. I have been waiting with hours and it's trying to enter to the startx, but nothing happened, just a black "X" shows under my user.
[16:17] <JMichaelX> acheronuk: i encountered the same problem installing the nvidia driver, without the ppa
[16:18] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i also tried that (before installing the ppa). it did not work
[16:18] <genii> andinit: That sounds more like you've got a different X desktop environment that's booting to by default now, something more simplistic that just gives you the old X and no frills
[16:19] <TheFakeVIP> hi
[16:19] <genii> andinit: Should check in the login screen what default session it's using
[16:19] <andinit> genii: but with the other user it boots normally, only with my old one.
[16:21] <genii> andinit: Firstly, as stated, check that plasma is the default session for the user it isn't currently working for
[16:21] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, which gpu?
[16:22] <TheFakeVIP> I'm blind and am looking to try out kde on either kubuntu or kde neon. WWas wondering if anyone knew where orca was pre-installed and working?
[16:22] <TheFakeVIP> sorry, i mean if orca was pre-installed
[16:22] <andinit> genii: how to check that?
[16:24] <genii> andinit: On SDDM it's chosen by a dropdown on the left side, normally
[16:24] <genii> Meh, work.
[16:25] <JMichaelX> acheronuk: also, the ppa says 'bionic'
[16:25] <andinit> genii:  yes, it's plasma the default login session
[16:26] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: [#kubuntu] BluesKaj:
[16:26] <andinit> genii:  I do not have another session than plasma
[16:27] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: GF108 (GT440)
[16:34] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, which driver did driver manager recommend ?0
[16:40] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, it should have shown the nvidia-390 as recommended
[16:47] <genii> andinit: I would suggest to switch to a tty with ctrl-alt-F1 or F2, and try logging in there with the affected user name.
[16:48] <user|19836> hey
[16:48] <user|19836> how can i update from 17.10 to 18.04
[16:49] <andinit> I already tried
[16:49] <andinit> genii:  doesn't work in ths way, I already tryied.
[16:49] <user|19836> i used cl method
[16:49] <user|19836> it is updating
[16:49] <genii> andinit: When you try by tty, what message do you get,, if any?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> user|19836, run sudo do-release-upgrade, and if that doesn't work , run sudo do-release-upgrade -d instead. Make sure you remove any ppas from /etc/apt/sources.list.d first.
[16:53] <andinit> genii: I am loog in the /var/log Xorg.0.log
[16:53] <andinit> genii: I am looking in the /var/log Xorg.0.log but there is nothing related
[16:54] <genii> andinit: No, I mean, when you do the ctrl-alt-F# method to command line and try to log in as the user for which X is currently screwy, what happens?
[16:55] <andinit> genii: it stucks into a black screen
[16:55] <andinit> genii: nothing happened, couldnt boot startx
[16:56]  * genii checks backscroll to see nwhere the misunderstanding begins
[17:00] <andinit> genii: I found the following at ./xsessions-errors: kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/kwin-script.desktop, tried ("/root/.local/share", "/usr/share", "/usr/local/share") and ":/kservicetypes5/kwin-script.desktop" QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 834, resource id: 50331652, major code: 18 (ChangeProperty), minor code: 0 WARNING: Cannot find style "org.kde.desktop" - fal
[17:00] <genii> andinit: When X is not working correctly, since it is not possible to enter X to fix X, the usual tactic is to use one of the other 6 TTYs which are available to use by command-line login to diagnose the issue. The other 6 TTY are available to enter from the TTY which is trying to use X by the key combination of CTRL and ALT and one of the F keys between 1 and 6, normally, all together.
[17:01]  * genii goes to grab more coffee and a Tylenol
[17:03] <genii> andinit: So if when you enter one of the other non-GUI TTYs and try to log in, either it should let you log in to the command-line as that user and put you in that directory which their home directory, or else give some message as to why it cannot
[17:07] <andinit> genii: it found the root cause, it's all about the password i have changed. The landing page is trying to access encypted drive, and with the new password it cannot unlock it and it goes into a loop, stucking within the blue plasma logon page. After reverting the password it works, but now how to change the password and to boot into plasma without stucking on boot?
[17:07] <andinit> genii: or how to change my password trough the terminal so that the encrypted drive to recognize it on boot next time?
[17:13] <genii> andinit: Sorry, my lunch break has ended and work requires my attention now. But hopefully another helper will get around to assisting you, if you linger a while and repeat the issue every 5-10 minutes or so
[17:50] <SzykCech> Is it possible to run programs/scripts from usb stick?!?
[17:51] <SzykCech> I have faulty moniotor, so it will be usefull if I can store everything on usb stick...
[17:58] <HimmelsYoshi> Can I install Kubuntu on a Raspberry pi 3?
[17:59] <genii> The ARM port, yes
[18:00] <genii> Although truthfully you'd probably want a different desktop than KDE on a pi
[18:02] <HimmelsYoshi> genii Why?
[18:04] <HimmelsYoshi> genii where do I get the ARM port?
[18:04] <genii> HimmelsYoshi: Because resource-wise it consumes more than a desktop such as for instance LXDE/LXQt or XFCE
[18:06] <genii> ...and then they leave before an answer can be given...
[18:38] <andimit> Does anybody know a proper way of changing a password for encrypted drive on Kubuntu? Due to this I cannot startx as root, through terminal doesnt change the password neither... I am stucking in bootloop after I change my passwort and now i am able to log in only with user without administration permissions.
[18:39] <andimit> genii: I did saw your reply because I still strugling with my issue, cannot change the passwort and now even cannot boot startx with root...
[18:41] <andimit> the only way it works was through users management, but now I am not able to access other users due to lack of permissions to the only one user I can log into plasma. Is there a way to change the user though other command than sudo passwd?
[18:55] <andimit> How can i change my system setting to be able to list other users through user manager?
[19:24] <andimit> genii: do you have any idea abut my issue?
[19:25] <valorie> andimit: you are probably going to have to chroot in
[19:25] <valorie> from inside your system you have locked yourself out
[19:27] <andimit> valorie: yes I have, do you have an idea how properly to change my passwd without stucking in such an issue?
[19:28] <valorie> as I said, it can be done, but you will have to ssh or more probably chroot in
[19:28] <valorie> google about how to do it using a liveUSB
[19:29] <valorie> I've done it
[19:29] <valorie> so it isn't that difficult, because I'm no expert
[19:29] <andimit> I already have ssh. Does it mean though ssh i can change the passwd without issues?
[20:04] <andimit> valorie: chroot doesn't felped me either. Still cannot boot plasma on all other users. The password issue still remains.
[23:29] <comborico1611_> Did Kubuntu 18 get rid of 1 click navigation in Dolphin?