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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin opened pull request #39: Add lxrandr (master...master) https://git.io/vp0ay04:15
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vp0aH04:16
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master dbb88c4 Lyn Perrine: Add lxrandr (#39)...04:16
lubot2purplemafia was added by: purplemafia07:59
lubot2<AlFXLogic> Fwd from Linuxgram 🐧: https://youtu.be/h284JgDGC7Y13:36
lubot2<AlFXLogic> positive review 😉13:36
lubot2<tsimonq2> Ooh. Thanks.14:19
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wxlam i correct that if a .desktop file is in $XDG_DATA_DIRS then lxsession should add it to the database? (assuming a properly formed file)15:22
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lubot2<tsimonq2> @wxl, Go to #lubuntu. XD15:51
wxlyeah this is actually not a support question16:00
lubot2<tsimonq2> Fwd from tsimonq2: COSMIC CANIMAL17:08
lubot2<tsimonq2> Fwd from tsimonq2: That's the codename.17:08
lubot2<tsimonq2> I'm wrong, actually.17:12
lynorianI think misreading that as cannibal was quite bad17:14
lubot2<tsimonq2> Hah.17:14
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] lubuntu-lugito created cosmic (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vpEoS17:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/cosmic 99390b0 Adam Conrad: platform.bionic -> platform.cosmic17:25
wxlcosmic canimal? are you freaking kidding me?17:25
wxlwth is a canimal????17:25
acheronukwxl: c'animal - a placeholder as mark hasn't decided on the animal yet17:26
wxlcosmic is cool though17:27
wxlwe can make a nice doom metal theme song for it17:27
wxlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canimals17:27
acheronukboth me and tsimonq2 had the same wtf :D17:27
acheronukcosmic is nice and short for changelogs as well17:28
genii!18.1017:33
geniiwxl: Is this something official?17:33
wxlit's in launchpad, genii17:33
wxlhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic17:33
geniiBleh :-/17:34
geniis/canimal/capybara17:34
wxlwell as acheronuk said, it's believed that canimal is actually "c-animal" meaning that it's going to be some animal that starts with a c, but it's not announced yet17:35
* genii keeps an eye on sabdfl's blog17:36
acheronukAdam (infinity said so)17:48
wxl@vikingredwolf is this one for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/176829318:29
ubot93Launchpad bug 1768293 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Installer for Lubuntu Next windows refers to Kubuntu instead of Lubuntu" [Wishlist, Triaged]18:29
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> @wxl, Or you. That's a problem in the config file.18:30
wxlok :)18:31
wxli thought we fixed the xsession in lxqt @tsimonq2 ??? bug 1768289018:33
wxlugh https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/176829018:33
ubot93Launchpad bug 1768290 in Lubuntu Next "Xsession, error window when logging into session" [Undecided, New]18:33
lubot2<tsimonq2> @wxl, The installer is a Ubiquity thing. WON'T FIX.18:33
lubot2<tsimonq2> @wxl, Errrrr wat18:34
wxl@tsimonq2: really? @VikingRedwolf seems to suggest otherwise18:34
lubot2<tsimonq2> Yeah.18:34
lubot2<tsimonq2> It's hard-coded.18:34
lubot2<tsimonq2> I read it myself. :P18:34
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> Mhm18:34
wxl@tsimonq2: couldn't we make our own thing? :/18:37
wxli mean like kubuntu has their own little thing in ubiquity. we could just copy it and replace with lubuntu, no?18:37
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> It can't be hardcoded, many distros use that installer18:41
wxl@VikingRedwolf do you know where to tweak that?18:42
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> But it must be some obscure and obfuscated file18:42
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> Let me check18:42
lubot2<tsimonq2> It's not a thing we can do, wxl.18:42
lubot2<tsimonq2> I've tried.18:42
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> Really? 😢18:43
lubot2<tsimonq2> It's so much of a clusterheck.18:43
lubot2<tsimonq2> @tsimonq2, ("clusterheck" heh)18:43
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> Then we can't use it. We share repo with kubuntu18:43
lubot2<tsimonq2> This isn't news, y'all. :P18:43
wxlto be absolutely sure, you know we're talking about the window name?18:44
wxls/name/title/18:44
lubot2<tsimonq2> Yes.18:44
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> I can't believe that we can't customise a single text chain18:44
wxlwell, again, why can't we just duplicate the whole kubuntu bit in ubiquity and re-do it for us?18:44
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> That's a big design fault, considering its and independent OpenSource project18:44
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> Kubuntu's fault18:45
wxlit's not kubuntu's fault at all18:45
wxlanyways what about that lxsession thing, @tsimonq2 ?18:45
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> Why other distros can customise it and we can't?18:45
lubot2<tsimonq2> The Qt frontend depends on KDE libs.18:45
lubot2<tsimonq2> We can't just copy it.18:45
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> Why is it so close in Ubuntus repos?18:45
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> So we're stuck with ubiquity? We can run a gtk app though.18:46
lubot2<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, We're using Calamares!18:47
lubot2<tsimonq2> I told y'all18:47
lubot2<tsimonq2> This18:47
lubot2<tsimonq2> Isnt18:47
lubot2<tsimonq2> News18:47
lubot2<tsimonq2> :)18:47
wxlenough of this. what about the lxsession bug?18:48
lubot2<tsimonq2> What bug? :)18:48
wxlrtfsb18:48
wxl:/18:48
lubot2<tsimonq2> I don't see an lxsession bug.18:50
lubot2<tsimonq2> :P18:50
wxlhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/176829018:51
ubot93Launchpad bug 1768290 in Lubuntu Next "Xsession, error window when logging into session" [Undecided, New]18:51
lubot2<tsimonq2> Oh18:51
lubot2<tsimonq2> Pfft18:51
lubot2<tsimonq2> I'll fix that when Lubuntu-default-settings gets fixed up.18:51
wxlso you can triage that then18:52
lubot2<tsimonq2> Yep.18:59
lubot2<AlFXLogic> guys, there is a weird behavior in LXTerminal in Lubuntu 18.0419:10
lubot2<AlFXLogic> weird in the sense that when you pick a background color is not rendered correctly19:10
lubot2<AlFXLogic> it's like, lighter19:11
lubot2<AlFXLogic> and there is no teardrop selector for custom colors anymore19:11
lubot2<tsimonq2> (side effect of the forced GTK 3 port?)19:11
wxlwas it lxterminal that wasa forced to go gtk?19:12
lubot2<AlFXLogic> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯19:12
wxldid you have this problem before?19:13
lubot2<AlFXLogic> not really19:13
wxldoes that mean no?19:13
lubot2<AlFXLogic> i did not have that problem before19:13
lubot2<tsimonq2> @wxl, Yes, it was lxterminal.19:14
lubot2<AlFXLogic> as far as i can see, it seems limited to the background color of LXTerminal19:15
lubot2<AlFXLogic> and by the way there is no opacity cursor anymore19:15
wxllooks like we may need to look into this more, btu chances are we wont' be able to fix it if it's the gtk3 issue19:16
wxlplease file bugs19:16
wxli admit i'm having trouble replicating this19:18
wxlis it just one color?19:20
lubot2<AlFXLogic> all but black19:20
wxlred seems fine here19:20
wxlsend a screenshot?19:21
lubot2<AlFXLogic> (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/ya5bcCh.jpg19:23
wxloh you were saying black is the one that fails?19:24
lubot2<AlFXLogic> no black is ok19:24
lubot2<AlFXLogic> grey are somewhat clearer19:24
lubot2<AlFXLogic> compared to the picker19:24
wxlwhat is the color code on that grey cuz again i'm having trouble reproducing19:25
lubot2<AlFXLogic> #55575319:26
lubot2<AlFXLogic> I will try on my other machines and screens19:26
wxlyeah looks good here19:27
lubot2<AlFXLogic> anyway, there are also no eyedropper color selection and no opacity cursor for the background19:27
wxlhttps://share.riseup.net/#m4_NKjyFI33egXBfRjyKxw19:27
wxldon't mind my transparency XD19:28
lubot2<AlFXLogic> seems definitely a problem of my screen then19:28
lubot2<AlFXLogic> I am actually using a lousy machine now19:28
wxlyou should be able to confirm thta if you try other screens/computers19:28
lubot2<AlFXLogic> I definitely will19:29
wxlsorry to tell you the problem is in the hardware :( :)19:31
lubot2<AlFXLogic> yeah, I'm observing it for other colors too but the best thing to do is test on other screens19:32
lubot2<AlFXLogic> anyway it's life :)19:32
wxlthat said there still may be a software solution but it's probably driver based19:33
lubot2<AlFXLogic> you know, it might also be an angle of reading issue19:34
wxlnot if it shows up in a screenshot19:34
lubot2<AlFXLogic> like I said, this is a crappy machine, 10 years old19:34
lubot2<AlFXLogic> well, whatever :)19:36
wxlXD19:36
lubot2<AlFXLogic> thanks for the help!19:37
wxlnp. let us know if anything else pops up19:38
lubot2<AlFXLogic> Yeah, the eyedropper color selection and the opacity cursor for the background are missing20:06
wxlthat i can confirm. but that may be the way it is20:06
lubot2<AlFXLogic> losing features while upgrading... it's a bit backwards 😭20:08
wxlunderstood20:08
wxlunfortunately upstream lxde is relatively poorly supported20:09
wxland this is an example of a major problem20:09
wxlthe whole thing is gtk2 only 20:09
lubot2<AlFXLogic> Ok20:09
wxlthe only reason lxterminal is gtk3 is because of debian policy about terminals20:09
wxlbasically it was that or get removed from the archive20:09
wxlwhich would have meant no lxterminal at all XD20:10
lubot2<AlFXLogic> This means that switching to LXQT might be a workaround, right?20:10
wxlyes20:10
wxlthere should be an actual released lubuntu lxqt image this cycle20:11
lubot2<AlFXLogic> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3980.mp420:11
wxlhm that's a 404?20:11
lubot2<AlFXLogic> Pardon?20:11
lubot2<AlFXLogic> Oh you are using a relay so maybe you can't see gifs?20:13
lubot2<AlFXLogic> Sorry20:13
lubot2<tsimonq2> I should fix that. :P20:19
lubot2<tsimonq2> Or, wxl does have SSH access...20:19
wxlno thank you20:20
wxlyou're in charge of supporting telegram20:20
lubot2<tsimonq2> Fiiiiiiine20:20
lubot2<tsimonq2> Lol20:20
lubot2<tsimonq2> https://twitter.com/tsimonq2/status/99144077720000102422:15
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin opened pull request #40: fix warnings for bad index and duplicate file. (master...master) https://git.io/vpukM22:22
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin closed pull request #40: fix warnings for bad index and duplicate file. (master...master) https://git.io/vpukM22:23
wxlis there a better screensaver for lxqt?22:27
tsimonq2wxl: Ask in #lubuntu. XD22:28
wxlnot a support question22:28
wxlalso do you know of calamres being crashy? install issues?22:29
tsimonq2Nope.22:29
tsimonq2Although my testing has been somewhat limited.22:30
tsimonq2So I'm curious to see if there's any issues that are reproducible.22:30
tsimonq2wxl: Aaaaaaaaaaaactually...22:31
tsimonq2Fritz did something weird.22:32
tsimonq2He tried a Ubiquity install then when that crashed did a Calamares install... (I think...)22:32
wxlmeaning the selection of it in the menu?22:32
tsimonq2Sooo the target was still mounted22:32
tsimonq2Causing literally everything to lolwat22:32
tsimonq2Just a hunch.22:32
tsimonq2But it should be investigated.22:32

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