[04:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin opened pull request #39: Add lxrandr (master...master) https://git.io/vp0ay [04:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vp0aH [04:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master dbb88c4 Lyn Perrine: Add lxrandr (#39)... [07:59] purplemafia was added by: purplemafia [13:36] Fwd from Linuxgram 🐧: https://youtu.be/h284JgDGC7Y [13:36] positive review 😉 [14:19] Ooh. Thanks. === mpmc_znc is now known as mpmc [15:22] am i correct that if a .desktop file is in $XDG_DATA_DIRS then lxsession should add it to the database? (assuming a properly formed file) === mpmc_znc is now known as mpmc [15:51] @wxl, Go to #lubuntu. XD [16:00] yeah this is actually not a support question [17:08] Fwd from tsimonq2: COSMIC CANIMAL [17:08] Fwd from tsimonq2: That's the codename. [17:12] I'm wrong, actually. [17:14] I think misreading that as cannibal was quite bad [17:14] Hah. [17:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] lubuntu-lugito created cosmic (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vpEoS [17:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/cosmic 99390b0 Adam Conrad: platform.bionic -> platform.cosmic [17:25] cosmic canimal? are you freaking kidding me? [17:25] wth is a canimal???? [17:26] wxl: c'animal - a placeholder as mark hasn't decided on the animal yet [17:27] cosmic is cool though [17:27] we can make a nice doom metal theme song for it [17:27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canimals [17:27] both me and tsimonq2 had the same wtf :D [17:28] cosmic is nice and short for changelogs as well [17:33] !18.10 [17:33] wxl: Is this something official? [17:33] it's in launchpad, genii [17:33] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic [17:34] Bleh :-/ [17:34] s/canimal/capybara [17:35] well as acheronuk said, it's believed that canimal is actually "c-animal" meaning that it's going to be some animal that starts with a c, but it's not announced yet [17:36] * genii keeps an eye on sabdfl's blog [17:48] Adam (infinity said so) [18:29] @vikingredwolf is this one for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1768293 [18:29] Launchpad bug 1768293 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Installer for Lubuntu Next windows refers to Kubuntu instead of Lubuntu" [Wishlist, Triaged] [18:30] @wxl, Or you. That's a problem in the config file. [18:31] ok :) [18:33] i thought we fixed the xsession in lxqt @tsimonq2 ??? bug 17682890 [18:33] ugh https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/1768290 [18:33] Launchpad bug 1768290 in Lubuntu Next "Xsession, error window when logging into session" [Undecided, New] [18:33] @wxl, The installer is a Ubiquity thing. WON'T FIX. [18:34] @wxl, Errrrr wat [18:34] @tsimonq2: really? @VikingRedwolf seems to suggest otherwise [18:34] Yeah. [18:34] It's hard-coded. [18:34] I read it myself. :P [18:34] Mhm [18:37] @tsimonq2: couldn't we make our own thing? :/ [18:37] i mean like kubuntu has their own little thing in ubiquity. we could just copy it and replace with lubuntu, no? [18:41] It can't be hardcoded, many distros use that installer [18:42] @VikingRedwolf do you know where to tweak that? [18:42] But it must be some obscure and obfuscated file [18:42] Let me check [18:42] It's not a thing we can do, wxl. [18:42] I've tried. [18:43] Really? 😢 [18:43] It's so much of a clusterheck. [18:43] @tsimonq2, ("clusterheck" heh) [18:43] Then we can't use it. We share repo with kubuntu [18:43] This isn't news, y'all. :P [18:44] to be absolutely sure, you know we're talking about the window name? [18:44] s/name/title/ [18:44] Yes. [18:44] I can't believe that we can't customise a single text chain [18:44] well, again, why can't we just duplicate the whole kubuntu bit in ubiquity and re-do it for us? [18:44] That's a big design fault, considering its and independent OpenSource project [18:45] Kubuntu's fault [18:45] it's not kubuntu's fault at all [18:45] anyways what about that lxsession thing, @tsimonq2 ? [18:45] Why other distros can customise it and we can't? [18:45] The Qt frontend depends on KDE libs. [18:45] We can't just copy it. [18:45] Why is it so close in Ubuntus repos? [18:46] So we're stuck with ubiquity? We can run a gtk app though. [18:47] @VikingRedwolf, We're using Calamares! [18:47] I told y'all [18:47] This [18:47] Isnt [18:47] News [18:47] :) [18:48] enough of this. what about the lxsession bug? [18:48] What bug? :) [18:48] rtfsb [18:48] :/ [18:50] I don't see an lxsession bug. [18:50] :P [18:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/1768290 [18:51] Launchpad bug 1768290 in Lubuntu Next "Xsession, error window when logging into session" [Undecided, New] [18:51] Oh [18:51] Pfft [18:51] I'll fix that when Lubuntu-default-settings gets fixed up. [18:52] so you can triage that then [18:59] Yep. [19:10] guys, there is a weird behavior in LXTerminal in Lubuntu 18.04 [19:10] weird in the sense that when you pick a background color is not rendered correctly [19:11] it's like, lighter [19:11] and there is no teardrop selector for custom colors anymore [19:11] (side effect of the forced GTK 3 port?) [19:12] was it lxterminal that wasa forced to go gtk? [19:12] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [19:13] did you have this problem before? [19:13] not really [19:13] does that mean no? [19:13] i did not have that problem before [19:14] @wxl, Yes, it was lxterminal. [19:15] as far as i can see, it seems limited to the background color of LXTerminal [19:15] and by the way there is no opacity cursor anymore [19:16] looks like we may need to look into this more, btu chances are we wont' be able to fix it if it's the gtk3 issue [19:16] please file bugs [19:18] i admit i'm having trouble replicating this [19:20] is it just one color? [19:20] all but black [19:20] red seems fine here [19:21] send a screenshot? [19:23] (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/ya5bcCh.jpg [19:24] oh you were saying black is the one that fails? [19:24] no black is ok [19:24] grey are somewhat clearer [19:24] compared to the picker [19:25] what is the color code on that grey cuz again i'm having trouble reproducing [19:26] #555753 [19:26] I will try on my other machines and screens [19:27] yeah looks good here [19:27] anyway, there are also no eyedropper color selection and no opacity cursor for the background [19:27] https://share.riseup.net/#m4_NKjyFI33egXBfRjyKxw [19:28] don't mind my transparency XD [19:28] seems definitely a problem of my screen then [19:28] I am actually using a lousy machine now [19:28] you should be able to confirm thta if you try other screens/computers [19:29] I definitely will [19:31] sorry to tell you the problem is in the hardware :( :) [19:32] yeah, I'm observing it for other colors too but the best thing to do is test on other screens [19:32] anyway it's life :) [19:33] that said there still may be a software solution but it's probably driver based [19:34] you know, it might also be an angle of reading issue [19:34] not if it shows up in a screenshot [19:34] like I said, this is a crappy machine, 10 years old [19:36] well, whatever :) [19:36] XD [19:37] thanks for the help! [19:38] np. let us know if anything else pops up [20:06] Yeah, the eyedropper color selection and the opacity cursor for the background are missing [20:06] that i can confirm. but that may be the way it is [20:08] losing features while upgrading... it's a bit backwards 😭 [20:08] understood [20:09] unfortunately upstream lxde is relatively poorly supported [20:09] and this is an example of a major problem [20:09] the whole thing is gtk2 only [20:09] Ok [20:09] the only reason lxterminal is gtk3 is because of debian policy about terminals [20:09] basically it was that or get removed from the archive [20:10] which would have meant no lxterminal at all XD [20:10] This means that switching to LXQT might be a workaround, right? [20:10] yes [20:11] there should be an actual released lubuntu lxqt image this cycle [20:11] (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3980.mp4 [20:11] hm that's a 404? [20:11] Pardon? [20:13] Oh you are using a relay so maybe you can't see gifs? [20:13] Sorry [20:19] I should fix that. :P [20:19] Or, wxl does have SSH access... [20:20] no thank you [20:20] you're in charge of supporting telegram [20:20] Fiiiiiiine [20:20] Lol [22:15] https://twitter.com/tsimonq2/status/991440777200001024 [22:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin opened pull request #40: fix warnings for bad index and duplicate file. (master...master) https://git.io/vpukM [22:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin closed pull request #40: fix warnings for bad index and duplicate file. (master...master) https://git.io/vpukM [22:27] is there a better screensaver for lxqt? [22:28] wxl: Ask in #lubuntu. XD [22:28] not a support question [22:29] also do you know of calamres being crashy? install issues? [22:29] Nope. [22:30] Although my testing has been somewhat limited. [22:30] So I'm curious to see if there's any issues that are reproducible. [22:31] wxl: Aaaaaaaaaaaactually... [22:32] Fritz did something weird. [22:32] He tried a Ubiquity install then when that crashed did a Calamares install... (I think...) [22:32] meaning the selection of it in the menu? [22:32] Sooo the target was still mounted [22:32] Causing literally everything to lolwat [22:32] Just a hunch. [22:32] But it should be investigated.