[04:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin opened pull request #39: Add lxrandr (master...master) https://git.io/vp0ay
[04:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vp0aH
[04:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master dbb88c4 Lyn Perrine: Add lxrandr (#39)...
[07:59] <lubot2> purplemafia was added by: purplemafia
 Fwd from Linuxgram 🐧: https://youtu.be/h284JgDGC7Y
 positive review 😉
 Ooh. Thanks.
[15:22] <wxl> am i correct that if a .desktop file is in $XDG_DATA_DIRS then lxsession should add it to the database? (assuming a properly formed file)
 @wxl, Go to #lubuntu. XD
[16:00] <wxl> yeah this is actually not a support question
 Fwd from tsimonq2: COSMIC CANIMAL
 Fwd from tsimonq2: That's the codename.
 I'm wrong, actually.
[17:14] <lynorian> I think misreading that as cannibal was quite bad
 Hah.
[17:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] lubuntu-lugito created cosmic (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vpEoS
[17:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/cosmic 99390b0 Adam Conrad: platform.bionic -> platform.cosmic
[17:25] <wxl> cosmic canimal? are you freaking kidding me?
[17:25] <wxl> wth is a canimal????
[17:26] <acheronuk> wxl: c'animal - a placeholder as mark hasn't decided on the animal yet
[17:27] <wxl> cosmic is cool though
[17:27] <wxl> we can make a nice doom metal theme song for it
[17:27] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canimals
[17:27] <acheronuk> both me and tsimonq2 had the same wtf :D
[17:28] <acheronuk> cosmic is nice and short for changelogs as well
[17:33] <genii> !18.10
[17:33] <genii> wxl: Is this something official?
[17:33] <wxl> it's in launchpad, genii
[17:33] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic
[17:34] <genii> Bleh :-/
[17:34] <genii> s/canimal/capybara
[17:35] <wxl> well as acheronuk said, it's believed that canimal is actually "c-animal" meaning that it's going to be some animal that starts with a c, but it's not announced yet
[17:36]  * genii keeps an eye on sabdfl's blog
[17:48] <acheronuk> Adam (infinity said so)
[18:29] <wxl> @vikingredwolf is this one for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1768293
 @wxl, Or you. That's a problem in the config file.
[18:31] <wxl> ok :)
[18:33] <wxl> i thought we fixed the xsession in lxqt @tsimonq2 ??? bug 17682890
[18:33] <wxl> ugh https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/1768290
 @wxl, The installer is a Ubiquity thing. WON'T FIX.
 @wxl, Errrrr wat
[18:34] <wxl> @tsimonq2: really? @VikingRedwolf seems to suggest otherwise
 Yeah.
 It's hard-coded.
 I read it myself. :P
 Mhm
[18:37] <wxl> @tsimonq2: couldn't we make our own thing? :/
[18:37] <wxl> i mean like kubuntu has their own little thing in ubiquity. we could just copy it and replace with lubuntu, no?
 It can't be hardcoded, many distros use that installer
[18:42] <wxl> @VikingRedwolf do you know where to tweak that?
 But it must be some obscure and obfuscated file
 Let me check
 It's not a thing we can do, wxl.
 I've tried.
 Really? 😢
 It's so much of a clusterheck.
 @tsimonq2, ("clusterheck" heh)
 Then we can't use it. We share repo with kubuntu
 This isn't news, y'all. :P
[18:44] <wxl> to be absolutely sure, you know we're talking about the window name?
[18:44] <wxl> s/name/title/
 Yes.
 I can't believe that we can't customise a single text chain
[18:44] <wxl> well, again, why can't we just duplicate the whole kubuntu bit in ubiquity and re-do it for us?
 That's a big design fault, considering its and independent OpenSource project
 Kubuntu's fault
[18:45] <wxl> it's not kubuntu's fault at all
[18:45] <wxl> anyways what about that lxsession thing, @tsimonq2 ?
 Why other distros can customise it and we can't?
 The Qt frontend depends on KDE libs.
 We can't just copy it.
 Why is it so close in Ubuntus repos?
 So we're stuck with ubiquity? We can run a gtk app though.
 @VikingRedwolf, We're using Calamares!
 I told y'all
 This
 Isnt
 News
 :)
[18:48] <wxl> enough of this. what about the lxsession bug?
 What bug? :)
[18:48] <wxl> rtfsb
[18:48] <wxl> :/
 I don't see an lxsession bug.
 :P
[18:51] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/1768290
 Oh
 Pfft
 I'll fix that when Lubuntu-default-settings gets fixed up.
[18:52] <wxl> so you can triage that then
 Yep.
 guys, there is a weird behavior in LXTerminal in Lubuntu 18.04
 weird in the sense that when you pick a background color is not rendered correctly
 it's like, lighter
 and there is no teardrop selector for custom colors anymore
 (side effect of the forced GTK 3 port?)
[19:12] <wxl> was it lxterminal that wasa forced to go gtk?
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:13] <wxl> did you have this problem before?
 not really
[19:13] <wxl> does that mean no?
 i did not have that problem before
 @wxl, Yes, it was lxterminal.
 as far as i can see, it seems limited to the background color of LXTerminal
 and by the way there is no opacity cursor anymore
[19:16] <wxl> looks like we may need to look into this more, btu chances are we wont' be able to fix it if it's the gtk3 issue
[19:16] <wxl> please file bugs
[19:18] <wxl> i admit i'm having trouble replicating this
[19:20] <wxl> is it just one color?
 all but black
[19:20] <wxl> red seems fine here
[19:21] <wxl> send a screenshot?
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/ya5bcCh.jpg
[19:24] <wxl> oh you were saying black is the one that fails?
 no black is ok
 grey are somewhat clearer
 compared to the picker
[19:25] <wxl> what is the color code on that grey cuz again i'm having trouble reproducing
 #555753
 I will try on my other machines and screens
[19:27] <wxl> yeah looks good here
 anyway, there are also no eyedropper color selection and no opacity cursor for the background
[19:27] <wxl> https://share.riseup.net/#m4_NKjyFI33egXBfRjyKxw
[19:28] <wxl> don't mind my transparency XD
 seems definitely a problem of my screen then
 I am actually using a lousy machine now
[19:28] <wxl> you should be able to confirm thta if you try other screens/computers
 I definitely will
[19:31] <wxl> sorry to tell you the problem is in the hardware :( :)
 yeah, I'm observing it for other colors too but the best thing to do is test on other screens
 anyway it's life :)
[19:33] <wxl> that said there still may be a software solution but it's probably driver based
 you know, it might also be an angle of reading issue
[19:34] <wxl> not if it shows up in a screenshot
 like I said, this is a crappy machine, 10 years old
 well, whatever :)
[19:36] <wxl> XD
 thanks for the help!
[19:38] <wxl> np. let us know if anything else pops up
 Yeah, the eyedropper color selection and the opacity cursor for the background are missing
[20:06] <wxl> that i can confirm. but that may be the way it is
 losing features while upgrading... it's a bit backwards 😭
[20:08] <wxl> understood
[20:09] <wxl> unfortunately upstream lxde is relatively poorly supported
[20:09] <wxl> and this is an example of a major problem
[20:09] <wxl> the whole thing is gtk2 only 
 Ok
[20:09] <wxl> the only reason lxterminal is gtk3 is because of debian policy about terminals
[20:09] <wxl> basically it was that or get removed from the archive
[20:10] <wxl> which would have meant no lxterminal at all XD
 This means that switching to LXQT might be a workaround, right?
[20:10] <wxl> yes
[20:11] <wxl> there should be an actual released lubuntu lxqt image this cycle
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3980.mp4
[20:11] <wxl> hm that's a 404?
 Pardon?
 Oh you are using a relay so maybe you can't see gifs?
 Sorry
 I should fix that. :P
 Or, wxl does have SSH access...
[20:20] <wxl> no thank you
[20:20] <wxl> you're in charge of supporting telegram
 Fiiiiiiine
 Lol
 https://twitter.com/tsimonq2/status/991440777200001024
[22:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin opened pull request #40: fix warnings for bad index and duplicate file.  (master...master) https://git.io/vpukM
[22:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin closed pull request #40: fix warnings for bad index and duplicate file.  (master...master) https://git.io/vpukM
[22:27] <wxl> is there a better screensaver for lxqt?
[22:28] <tsimonq2> wxl: Ask in #lubuntu. XD
[22:28] <wxl> not a support question
[22:29] <wxl> also do you know of calamres being crashy? install issues?
[22:29] <tsimonq2> Nope.
[22:30] <tsimonq2> Although my testing has been somewhat limited.
[22:30] <tsimonq2> So I'm curious to see if there's any issues that are reproducible.
[22:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: Aaaaaaaaaaaactually...
[22:32] <tsimonq2> Fritz did something weird.
[22:32] <tsimonq2> He tried a Ubiquity install then when that crashed did a Calamares install... (I think...)
[22:32] <wxl> meaning the selection of it in the menu?
[22:32] <tsimonq2> Sooo the target was still mounted
[22:32] <tsimonq2> Causing literally everything to lolwat
[22:32] <tsimonq2> Just a hunch.
[22:32] <tsimonq2> But it should be investigated.