[00:31] <diddledan> daftykins: if you're restricted by vmware esxi, it looks like someone is making a community build of xenserver without the license fees - you need to use a webui instead of the citrix xencenter because the latter doesn't work with it - the webui is free if you build it yourself, or has license fees for advanced functionality if you use the blessed build
[00:31] <daftykins> funkeh
[00:31] <diddledan> https://xcp-ng.org
[00:32] <daftykins> diddledan: oh i won in the end though, i used vmcenter converter to take my old physical server's OS install and send it straight over the network onto my new server, the ESXi host, now everything is running as if it was never gone
[00:32] <diddledan> so if you're happy rolling your own then you can get advanced functionality for freebie
[00:32] <diddledan> \o/
[00:32] <diddledan> how did the windows license cope being moved into a vm?
[00:32] <daftykins> no IOMMU but i don't even know if that would benefit it
[00:33] <daftykins> oddly enough it gave zero hoots - just shows up as activated still xD
[00:33] <diddledan> well blow my raspberry!
[00:33] <daftykins> indeed! i have a feeling they may care very little about 7 now though
[00:33] <diddledan> maybe it copied the hardware strings into the vm configuration
[00:34] <diddledan> I don't know which strings are important to do it myself though
[00:35] <daftykins> Barber's Adagio
[00:35] <daftykins> ;D
[00:36] <diddledan> I got one of these cheap off ebay .. it's in the post for delivery in a couple days: https://www.lantronix.com/products/lantronix-spider/
[00:36] <daftykins> but yeah, so the newly converted VM then had the physical disks that OS used to have attached to it via commands to make it think they were .vmdk's - and the RAID controller was passed through so that came up as before, moreover every service in the house is running without batting an eyelid really
[00:36] <daftykins> ah yeah, cor you were eyeing that up ages ago :>
[00:36] <diddledan> aye
[00:37] <diddledan> I had a couple £10 vouchers so I used them
[00:37] <diddledan> came to ~£60
[00:42] <daftykins> cor bit steep for something that looks like your mates Nintendo Wii knock off controller
[00:43] <diddledan> new they're super expensive
[00:44] <diddledan> direct from manufacturer they're $392.00 new
[00:44] <daftykins> O_O
[00:45] <diddledan> so, that's about £290-300?
[00:45] <diddledan> at 1.4-1 $-£ that's £280
[00:48] <daftykins> i'd noticed the rate is kinda nice again now
[00:49] <diddledan> oh, xe.com says the rate is about 1.35:1
[00:49] <diddledan> that adds $8
[00:49] <diddledan> err 8£
[00:49] <diddledan> bah @ back asses
[00:51] <daftykins> :<
[00:51]  * daftykins continues the application of the new win10 build
[00:51] <diddledan> the april 18 build?
[00:52] <daftykins> yipyip
[00:52] <diddledan> that landed on the 1st of may
[00:52] <daftykins> indeed! but i was busy with the server so refreshes weren't exactly top of my list
[00:52] <daftykins> i had some amusing scenarios during the first boot of that converted-to-vm physical host btw
[00:53] <daftykins> "why does it think the IP is in use? oh yeah, 'cause the REAL box behind me is using it"
[06:04] <SuperMatt> morning all
[06:33] <Gargoyle> o/
[07:41] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:53] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[07:53] <brobostigon> o/
[10:30] <czajkowski> ello ello
[10:32] <brobostigon> morning
[11:33] <daftykins> wow there's some sun out today down 'ere, wintery in the shade / indoors though
[12:58]  * diddledan wonders what popeycore is doing with core
[13:01] <daftykins> champion idler ;)
[14:40] <czajkowski> popey++ camera is very nice!!
[14:40] <popey> yay
[14:46] <czajkowski> if anyone wants to read a new advenutre I'm working on with Leslie, we're blogging weekly on various of topics and looking for suggestions also
[14:46] <czajkowski> https://medium.com/@leslielauralive/our-first-advice-column-developer-relations-and-personal-integrity-23df6677b00f
[18:37] <Azelphur> Does anyone know if Virgin needs to lay cables all the way to your house, or if they just need to get fiber to the cabinet?
[18:38] <daftykins> do they do VDSL as well as coax now or something?
[18:38] <Azelphur> I honestly don't know, I'm asking because I live in a listed building, and they are laying cables on the street outside, and the cabinet is literally as close as it can be to me
[18:38] <Azelphur> so if it's FTTC, I'm good, if it's gotta come all the way into the house, I get nothing :(
[18:41] <daftykins> mmm pass then, not seen true fiber tech over here
[19:02] <DJones> Azelphur: I keep getting virgin salespeople calling at our house offering their full fibre services, despite the fact that our estate doen't even have virgin cabling installed, they're spammers, they make talktalk look like god service providers
[19:03] <DJones> s/god/good/
[19:27] <daftykins> DJones: do you have phone lines? i think virgin may also be an LLU ISP choice
[19:36] <diddledan> Azelphur: they're fttc but they need to run a coax into your home
[19:37] <diddledan> unless you already have the coax installed
[19:38] <diddledan> my ISP doesn't do too badly (AAISP) https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/8029-aaisp-idnet-and-hyperoptic-the-big-winners-in-april-ratings-battle
[19:40] <daftykins> :o
[19:40] <daftykins> with a mainlander mates help we picked Zen for London, haven't had it long to comment :D
[19:44] <daftykins> diddledan: oh is that that Andrews and Arnold i have been told about?
[19:44] <diddledan> yup
[19:44] <daftykins> so it is
[19:44] <daftykins> think my mate warned me they had a rubbish FUP or something though, what did he say...
[19:45] <diddledan> they have a transfer allowance
[19:45] <diddledan> no FUP just a cap
[19:45] <diddledan> I'm on their 1TB/mo service
[19:46] <daftykins> ok, still a limit but different meanings :)
[19:47] <daftykins> i would not be a fan of that, although i can see it working for the majority