[00:10] <sarnold> sdeziel: btw on bionic I needed to add  'k' on /home/sarnold/.msmtp.log to the msmpt profile
[03:54] <Neo4> Hi! I have question. Read this link!
[03:54] <Neo4> https://pastebin.com/MYjcPiL0
[04:56] <cpaelzer> good morning
[07:17] <lordievader> Good morning
[12:57] <sdeziel> sarnold: noted, thanks
[13:05] <sdeziel> sarnold: there was no rule for ~/.msmtp.log but what do you think of this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f76QH6bnYq/ ?
[14:09] <jr_admin> does anyone know how you can stop www-data from emailing you constantly?  i keep getting mail from www-data every 10 minutes that awstat.conf was not able to access acccess.log file to modify it.  i already went to /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 and modifed it to to "create 666 root adm" but i still get permission denied for awstat.conf to access /var/log/aapache2/access.log to write to
[14:21] <RoyK> jr_admin: can the awstat user access the directory?
[14:30] <jr_admin> RoyK, how can i find out if he does or not
[14:30] <RoyK> jr_admin: su -s /bin/bash - $username
[14:31] <RoyK> where $username is the user running awstat
[14:32] <jr_admin> im sorry im a newb. but how do i find out whos running awstat..my guess is apache or im not sure of the official username
[14:33] <jr_admin> RoyK, i guess that would be the person whos logged in?  or www-data?
[14:42] <RoyK> jrahmy: not sure how awstat is run - is it a cronjob?
[14:43] <RoyK> erm - that was meant for jr_admin, who just left
[18:31] <sarnold> sdeziel: ah! looks good to me. I hadn't realized I specified the log location by hand :)
[18:32] <sdeziel> sarnold: great
[19:06] <bladernr> Hey, is there a wiki page or something that explains the differences between subiquity and d-i in Bionic?
[19:06] <bladernr> Just something that's kind of a high-level comparison explaining why we have two images for Ubuntu Server
[19:09] <bladernr> I know there's a very small blurb about it in the release notes, but I was hoping for something more consumable for non-engineers.
[19:20] <Blueking> ubuntu 18.04 LTS good ?
[19:21] <sarnold> most folks seem to be liking it well enough
[19:23] <nacc> bladernr: subiquity and ubiquity you mean?
[19:23] <bladernr> nacc, no, there are two Ubuntu Server images... one uses Subiquity and the other is d-i based.
[19:24] <bladernr> nacc, the subiquity image is on releases.ubuntu.com while users are directed to cdimages.ubuntu.com for the d-i one
[19:24] <nacc> bladernr: both installers are available from the reqular ISO, aiui?
[19:24] <nacc> dpb1: --^ ?
[19:24] <bladernr> ubuntu-18.04-server-live.iso vs ubuntu-18.04-server.iso...
[19:26] <powersj> live == new default installer based on subiquity; provides a more streamlined experience, ask less questions, and eventually enable more complex scenarios
[19:27] <powersj> the old ISO using d-i, also referred to as ubiquity, is still around to enable features that are not yet enabled in the live ISO
[19:27] <powersj> both are available at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/
[19:27] <nacc> powersj: thanks!
[19:27] <powersj> daily-live == subiquity, daily == ubiquity
[19:28] <nacc> i think the release notes also talk a bit about the differences and when you might need to use the old installer
[19:31] <bladernr> nacc, yeah, the release notes were pretty light, I was just hoping for something like a side-by-side I could just easily pass along to partners when they ask.  No worries though.
[19:32] <bladernr> powersj, also thanks, I didn't realize the d-i server image was referred to as ubuiquity... ubiquity to me was always the live image on the Desktop ISO, I never really connected that name to the server iso
[19:33] <powersj> yeah, it is probably more accurate to say d-i
[19:43] <_KaszpiR_> bladernr from my experience I can say preseed from xenial works under bonic
[19:43] <_KaszpiR_> at least if using netboot
[20:37] <nacc> bladernr: yeah i'm not sure it's been done, but probably worth doing :)