| === Chrisfu is now known as Guest10104 | ||
| knightwise | morning peeps | 06:10 |
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| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 06:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 06:33 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 06:36 |
| knightwise | hey guys | 07:40 |
| knightwise | how are tricks ! | 07:40 |
| SuperMatt | bloomin twitter and github | 08:10 |
| * zmoylan-pi changes twitter password... a plain log file... how... dumb... | 09:14 | |
| zmoylan-pi | had that password for 10 years... :-) | 09:16 |
| SuperMatt | I don't think it would have been a plain log file. I image they probably had a logging system that was capturing all the POST variables, and they probably forgot to leave out log in requests. | 09:42 |
| SuperMatt | But I've now I've been through my passwords and changed all the ones that matter, I.E those which could potentially cost me money | 09:43 |
| SuperMatt | I'm using a password manager now, so I'm just using fully random passwords for everything | 09:43 |
| === layke is now known as Guest68377 | ||
| DJones | daftykins: We have phone lines, but at the end of the day, no matter which ISP I use, they're using the same hard wired cables, so to me, I don't think it'd make a difference | 18:00 |
| daftykins | DJones: yeah i just meant (that i think) it doesn't immediately mean Virgin can't offer you anything if you have no coax in your area | 18:03 |
| DJones | daftykins: Agreed, BT & Sky are the biggest suppliers in the area, so presumably have the largest infrastructure, which is why I'm not changing | 18:12 |
| DJones | Must admit, Sky haven't been a problem, decent speeds, no downtime etc, so can't complain about them | 18:13 |
| daftykins | i think if you don't push much data they're probably a good choice yeah, as i think Sky have caps? | 18:14 |
| daftykins | down here in the islands we don't have BT, there are three ISPs but two small ones just resell the same service of the main one | 18:15 |
| DJones | No caps that I'm aware of, although I'm not downloading anything that would hit a cap anyway | 18:33 |
| nucc1 | does anyone consider it a bug that open-scsi installs a service which waits *indefinitely* for network connection at startup? | 18:57 |
| daftykins | !info open-scsi | 18:58 |
| lubotu3 | Package open-scsi does not exist in artful | 18:58 |
| daftykins | more like just not a sane default? can't say i know what that is though | 18:58 |
| nucc1 | sorry, i meant open-iscsi | 19:02 |
| nucc1 | yes, it's an un-sane default :) | 19:02 |
| nucc1 | ships by default in the 18.04 server (or it installs by default) can never tell nowadays :) | 19:03 |
| nucc1 | anyway, even the installer refused to progress without a network connection | 19:03 |
| nucc1 | I don't know if I somehow ended up with a "cloud" spin of bionic or something | 19:03 |
| nucc1 | also, this is Bionic Beaver | 19:04 |
| nucc1 | !info open-iscsi | 19:04 |
| lubotu3 | open-iscsi (source: open-iscsi): iSCSI initiator tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.874-4ubuntu3 (artful), package size 287 kB, installed size 1558 kB (Only available for linux-any) | 19:04 |
| daftykins | kinda had a feeling it could've been iSCSI but didn't want to spam the bot too much more without being sure :> | 19:04 |
| daftykins | standard server image then huh? i can't remember if subiquity had much of a step for picking software | 19:05 |
| nucc1 | yes, it's the standard server image | 19:05 |
| daftykins | such as the older server LTS releases had tasksel | 19:05 |
| nucc1 | Yea, the whole thing seems to assume that I'm deploying to a public cloud | 19:05 |
| nucc1 | i'm now manually undoing all the unwanted things it caused that i can find | 19:06 |
| daftykins | well apparently it is coming with this cloud-image rubbish on it now | 19:06 |
| nucc1 | yea, it's called cloud-init (kinda wanna call it cloud-innit?) | 19:06 |
| daftykins | honestly i'm a bit hesitant to make use of bionic with all the junk it comes with - i think it has a 3GB default install size even on digitalocean | 19:06 |
| daftykins | that's the one - i keep forgetting its name as i haven't put much time into bionic yet | 19:06 |
| nucc1 | hmmm, i'm building a router, and i just wanted the latest-greatest so i could poke into the innards | 19:07 |
| daftykins | i don't like the new method for static IP addressing either | 19:07 |
| nucc1 | well, that was a surprise, but i think it makes sense | 19:07 |
| daftykins | is that all it's going to do? think i'd rather run pfsense | 19:07 |
| nucc1 | YAML is i assume good for scripts | 19:07 |
| nucc1 | i am more comfy in ubuntu | 19:07 |
| daftykins | thing is i don't think i'll be memorising that yaml config format anytime soon versus i knew the /etc/network/interfaces file inside out | 19:08 |
| daftykins | right but it's general purpose, you have to reinvent the wheel to run *buntu as a router rather than something specifically designed to be a router | 19:08 |
| nucc1 | yes, the re-inventing the wheel part is the only way I think i'll update my knowledge. | 19:08 |
| daftykins | oh ok so more of a test setup rather than live system? :> | 19:09 |
| nucc1 | it will become my main router, and then i want to use it to learn about traffic accounting in linux | 19:09 |
| daftykins | what's the hardware? curious as i recently did a big overhaul of my main home server and cut power draw hugely \o/ | 19:11 |
| nucc1 | i got a jetway jbc 365 | 19:12 |
| nucc1 | and a 2GB stick of RAM. | 19:12 |
| nucc1 | https://www.mini-itx.com/store/~JBC365 | 19:13 |
| nucc1 | it turns out that all developers apparently run Xeon CPUs with PCiE SSDs | 19:13 |
| nucc1 | because I couldn't use a good old spinning disk inside this machine. | 19:13 |
| daftykins | ooh neat | 19:13 |
| nucc1 | The bios assumes that the disk is bad because it's slow at POST | 19:13 |
| nucc1 | so i only got it to boot successfully about 50% of the time | 19:13 |
| daftykins | yeah you don't wanna go running spinning rust in low power kit anyway | 19:14 |
| daftykins | does it have a BIOS with spectre mitigations available? | 19:14 |
| nucc1 | well, it had a lot of capacity so i figured perhaps i could set up a cifs share on it too | 19:14 |
| nucc1 | he he, i have not bothered about spectre | 19:14 |
| daftykins | granted the newer one just came out in the news, but it's not something that should be ignored | 19:15 |
| nucc1 | i don't think merely crafting packets is enough to exploit it, but well, i'm being cavalier about it | 19:15 |
| daftykins | i'm moving away from all the old core 2 systems i had since intel abandoned patching them | 19:15 |
| nucc1 | that's paranoid :) | 19:15 |
| nucc1 | keeping my good old sandybridge | 19:16 |
| nucc1 | haven't even bothered to check for fixes. | 19:16 |
| nucc1 | it's not a cloud machine | 19:16 |
| daftykins | it's not the primary reason i'm dumping them, like i said i cut power on my home server by dumping a core 2 duo and moving to a low TDP i5 haswell | 19:17 |
| daftykins | i've a Sony sandybridge laptop here that'll never get patched | 19:18 |
| nucc1 | Yea, I have generally avoided re-purposing old hardware to use as a router... | 19:18 |
| nucc1 | even though getting a low-power machine as I did costs more probably than old hardware would use in electricity, it sits better with me mentally. | 19:19 |
| daftykins | too much power for a router yeah - i have a couple of those AMD APU2 systems from linitx.com for pfsense routers | 19:19 |
| nucc1 | this isn't a bad machine: https://linitx.com/product/pc-engines-apu2-c4-system-board-with-4gb-ram/14822 | 19:25 |
| daftykins | yeah that's the one | 19:30 |
| daftykins | 16GB mSATA SSD | 19:30 |
| daftykins | good company too | 19:33 |
| diddledan | why fireworks? | 20:30 |
| daftykins | fireworks? | 20:45 |
| diddledan | fireworks! | 20:52 |
| daftykins | in amazingstoke? | 20:53 |
| diddledan | yup | 20:53 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | celebrating 40 years of spam email? :-) | 20:55 |
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