[17:15] <ErichEickmeyer> Wow, that was a long 24 hours. sakrecoer, I'll look into that bridge; it seems the Lubuntu and Kubuntu communities are especially on it.
[17:18] <ErichEickmeyer> Everyone: Perhaps this is just bandwagoning, but it seems as though several of the flavors are dropping 32-bit support. I can see the big advantage of not having to worry about packaging for 32-bit anymore, which would ease workload. Any thoughts?
[17:20] <OvenWerks> I am not sure we will have a choice
[17:20] <OvenWerks> we depend on the lowlatency kernel and the kernel people are wanting to drop 32bit as well. I am not sure if lubuntu are building their own or not
[17:22] <OvenWerks> I suspect ubuntu wants to get rid of all or at least much of the 32bit repo as well with respect to importing new versions etc.
[17:23] <OvenWerks> The idea was that 18.04 being an LTS would keep 32 bit stuff around for the length of the lts.
[17:25] <OvenWerks>  I do happen to have a number of 32 bit machines in the house from 1998 till about 2004 ish. The 1998 laptop is very slow and not really in use :) but my server is a P4 (running 14.04 I think)
[17:27] <OvenWerks> I also have a netbook from around 2010ish that is 32bit that runs fine (better than a P4). It seems that oolder computers were built better and are still running (PATA drives and all).
[17:28] <OvenWerks> However, there will still be other OSes around for the netbook if I want to upgrade and I do have a 64bit ready  the server.
[17:33] <OvenWerks> the 32bit deadline is 2038ish  ;) then the clocks roll over to 1970...
[17:40] <OvenWerks> ErichEickmeyer: to keep 32bit may mean supporting the packages on our own.
[17:44]  * OvenWerks is switching his desktop to 18.04... gotta look for all the dev packages :P
[17:59] <krytarik> Fwiw, nobody is talking about dropping 32-bit packages off the repo so far - just stopping to build 32-bit installation images.
[18:00] <OvenWerks> I guess the question becomes: can someone do useful artistic creation with a 32bit system?
[18:01] <OvenWerks> I know there are already some of our packages that are 64bit only
[18:02] <krytarik> Well, I would so we should drop once the majority of Ubuntu flavors did - and likely before the more lightweight ones too.
[18:02] <OvenWerks> On the other hand, there are (were?) a few packages that require 32bit operation
[18:04] <krytarik> Yes, and multiarch support is still there, of course - and I'd think the maintainer of said packages wouldn't give up 32-bit support on those.. :P
[21:40] <OvenWerks> hmm, ubuntustudio-controls ends up in the system submenu. Should it?
[21:40] <OvenWerks> I am thinking that maybe we should have that be in settings
[21:42] <OvenWerks> Next question: do all DEs have a settings sub menu? That is, how do they deal with settings utilities that are not a part of their own settings widget?
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