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[04:14] <akis> hi all. could you please me advise me which is the recommended backup application for xubuntu which using less recources and is fast and reliable?
[04:17] <well_laid_lawn> I like rysnc
[04:17] <well_laid_lawn> for that
[04:21] <akis> well_laid_lawn: rysnc is it a terminal application only or a graphical too?
[04:21] <well_laid_lawn> I only know it as a terminal app
[04:22] <well_laid_lawn> someone might have built a gui interface for it somewhere ...
[04:23] <flocculant> grsync is in the repos
[04:24] <akis> well_laid_lawn: as far I can see it is already installed on my system by default. Is it recommended to install Grsync too to have a graphical interface ?
[04:24] <well_laid_lawn> you can try it and see
[04:24] <flocculant> you wanted a gui - so I told you what it was - up to you to decide whether to use it or not :)
[04:26] <akis> ok thanks. does rsunc can back both files and /home configuration so i can backup my system when i will clean install 18.04 ?
[04:26] <well_laid_lawn> you have to tell it what to back up
[04:26] <well_laid_lawn> but it can access the dot files in /home/you
[04:29] <akis> ok, i hope so, because the main reason i want to backup my system is to make more simple the clean installation of the new system under 18.04 and mainly the same configuration
[04:30] <well_laid_lawn> that should be easy enough
[04:30] <well_laid_lawn> s/easy/reliable/
[04:31] <akis> ok, thank you for your help
[04:32] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[07:20] <nova_> Hello.  With my fresh install of 18.04, I have noticed that my customized Numix theme has issues with the menus bar in alot of programs.  I thought that perhaps I should re-tweak the latest version of Numix instead.  This has almost been successful, except I haven't been able to locate the menu bar background color setting.only affects some programs.  I'm assuming that it boils down to a difference between gtk2 and gtk3, and
[07:20] <nova_> I'm still digging for clues, but I thought I would see if anyone here is familiar with gtk2/3 theming, and could perhaps give me some clues.
[07:21] <pragomer1> what package to install to get a preview of raw-images in thunar??
[07:22] <nova_> programs that continue to have the old menu bar color are, Firefox, Thunderbird, Terminal, Synaptic
[07:25] <Unit193> nova_: Just to make sure, you are in fact grabbing the source and rebuilding sass?
[07:25] <Unit193> pragomer1: tumbler-plugins-extra
[07:26] <nova_> unit193: sorry im not sure what you mean
[07:27] <Unit193> Numix's source needs ruby-sass to recompile, if you're trying to modify the generated theme you're doing it wrong.
[07:28] <nova_> I just copied /usr/share/themes/Numix to /usr/share/themes/Numix-Tweaked and starting tweaking it
[07:28] <Unit193> OK, yeah.  That'd be editing the generated theme.
[07:28] <nova_> so i should find numix on git and clone it and go from there?
[07:28] <Unit193> Or the releases, but yeah I'd recommend that.
[07:29] <Unit193> Heh, I too have edited Numix to make it darker, make the borders smaller, and changed the highlight color. :)
[07:30] <nova_> my changed to the xfwm part of it work fine, and i think my changed to gtk-2.0 gtkrc worked too, but i think it's gtk-3.0 that is still an issue.
[07:30] <pragomer1> Thank you very much Unit193 : tumbler-plugins-extra worked super for me !
[07:30] <Unit193> pragomer1: Great!
[07:30] <nova_> yeah im actually making all the borders thicker because i can't get on board with the new ways to resize windows
[07:30] <nova_> and im making it darker too, (#2d2d2d)
[07:30] <Unit193> That is, the padding around everything was annoying.
[07:30] <Unit193> nova_: In that case, perhaps take a look at my patch?
[07:31] <nova_> sure I can take a look
[07:31] <nova_> I use a 40 inch TV for a monitor so I like to have nice thick easy to grab borders
[07:33] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/test/+files/numix-gtk-theme_2.6.7-3vanir1~18.04.debian.tar.xz should be in debian/patches/(3001-lower-padding.patch,3002-darker.patch,3003-red-highlights.patch) though you won't need that last one.
[07:33] <Unit193> (Since you're touching the same areas for changing the color, though you want borders and I changed padding.)
[07:34] <nova_> thank you ill take a look at it
[07:34] <Unit193> I do hope it helps.
[07:34] <nova_> heres and example what I have so far, and the troublesome menu bar
[07:34] <nova_> https://pasteboard.co/HjAkGpZ.png
[08:09] <nova_> Unit i've looked over your color change patch and your work looks pretty awesome, but I'm not familiar with patching.  I'm also not sure that i need to make quite so many changes at this point.  The xfwm changes I've already made, in fact I was just able to copy over my previous changes, the gtk2 changes seem to have worked...it's just the gtk 3.0 and potentially 3.20 part i need to tweak.  I'm wondering if I can just add a
[08:09] <nova_> couple css directives to the gtk-3.0/gtk.css below the "@import url("resource:///org/numixproject/gtk/dist/gtk.css");" line
[09:07] <drop_> hello
[09:08] <drop_> I am having trouble moving my screens in Display
[09:09] <drop_> they all overlap and I cannot re-arrange them
[09:10] <drop_> I did not have this issue with 17.10
[09:15] <well_laid_lawn> drb1:  what are you using to arrange the displays ?
[09:15] <well_laid_lawn> oops
[10:10] <drop_> so I'm having trouble with mur i guess?
[10:11] <drop_> I believe now is the time
[10:25] <nova_> I tried to give my favorite gui text editor root powers with pkexec, after creating a .action file to allow it to work, it still stopped with a suggestion that it was a bad idea, but offered a way to still continue in spite of the warning.  Is there any right way to use a gui text editor to make changes with root privledges?
[10:26] <nova_> I would love to have a context menu option to open with Notepadqq as root in Thunar
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[14:35] <pmjdebruijn> hey does xubuntu have a launcher/applist integrated dock thing?
[14:36] <GridCube> pmjdebruijn: the xfce panel does that by itself
[14:36] <GridCube> one of the panel presets has it pre configured as well
[14:39] <pmjdebruijn> you mean via Xfce Panel Switch?
[14:39] <pmjdebruijn> if so which?
[14:40] <pmjdebruijn> I meant like the OSX/Unity dock functionsi
[14:40] <lapaga> plank
[14:40] <pmjdebruijn> so an launcher is also the window list
[14:41] <GridCube> you can add an extra panel and add launchers to it
[14:41] <pmjdebruijn> it's the integration i'm looking for
[14:41] <GridCube> you can make it so the panel auto hides, smartly or generally
[14:41] <pmjdebruijn> nah
[14:41] <pmjdebruijn> lapaga: plank seems nice
[14:41] <pmjdebruijn> docky has a bit of a horrible dependancy thing going on
[14:42] <GridCube> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3KiwoOxfkg
[14:43] <GridCube> there is trully no need for any application beyond the panels
[14:43] <pmjdebruijn> that install awn?
[14:46] <pmjdebruijn> I don't see that video demonstrated the integration actually
[14:46] <pmjdebruijn> I'll take another look later today :)
[14:51] <GridCube> oh, you mean like dockbarx? pmjdebruijn? https://github.com/M7S/dockbarx
[14:51] <GridCube> it's not a default application however
[14:51] <GridCube> so no support is given for any damage it might cause to your system
[16:35] <hycer> lightdm is annoying, wrong resolution and wrong monitor...does anybody know how to fix double monitor + lightdm?
[16:41] <genii> hycer: Basically, you make some xrandr script which makes the alignment and default however you prefer, then put that into /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf as something akin to: display-setup-script=/path/to/xrandrcommand.sh
[17:35] <FurretUber> On Display Settings, what the option Primary display should do?
[17:36] <genii> FurretUber: It should make that monitor the default one apps open up on, as well as the place taskbar gets placed first
[17:37] <genii> taskabar/panel/default DE interface interaction mechanism
[17:37] <FurretUber> Hmmm... I think the option is not working
[17:40] <FurretUber> The hint is working for the LibreOffice splash, but xfce4-panel ignores it
[17:47] <FurretUber> The windows open depending on which screen the mouse cursor is. The only thing that uses the Primary display setting is the LibreOffice splash screen, everything else ignores the option
[18:24] <FurretUber> Apparently xfce4-panel detects the option but in a improper way: the monitor where the panel is is the one most in left or above all others. xfce4-panel detects the "Primary display" by positioning the desktop icons. If the "Primary display" is not the one where the xfce4-panel is, the panel covers the desktop icons
[19:01] <FurretUber> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1769247
[19:01] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1769247 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfce4-display-settings "Primary display" option does not work properly" [Undecided,New]