[08:19] <antis> mandOrla: install fonts via "font-manager" instead of copying files around manually :)
[11:05] <Guest10193> Hi! :) - May be You now why command `ss -E` ore `ss --events` ran process without any header and output to stdout?
[11:06] <Guest10193> Thats about Lubuntu 18.04
[11:08] <Guest10193> Thats was comfortable monitor of chainged connection in alfa Lubuntu 18.04, - But buggy in Lubuntu 18.04 LTS - (((((
[11:22] <Netwalker_>  Hi! :) - May be You now why command `ss -E` ore `ss --events` ran process without any header and output to stdout? Thats about Lubuntu 18.04 Thats was comfortable monitor of chainged connection in alfa Lubuntu 18.04, - But buggy in Lubuntu 18.04 LTS - (((((
[12:22] <Guest17795> epubs
[13:38] <corpus> @search Saxon Andrew
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[16:24] <ask-ygU5AP56> hello
[16:24] <ask-ygU5AP56> anyone issues with a dissapearing power applet ?
[16:25] <ask-ygU5AP56> 18.04, 64bit, second boot, upon fiddling w/ lxpanel config inside .config/lxpanel/ then returning to the original config file, the icon dissapeared
[16:25] <ask-ygU5AP56> I change the settings in preferences -> power manager to show / not show icon in taskbar
[16:26] <ask-ygU5AP56> no difference
[16:26] <ask-ygU5AP56> I check dconf only to see there's no com/canonical/indicator/power
[16:26] <ask-ygU5AP56> what else to do?
[16:26] <ask-ygU5AP56> in order to fix this?
[16:29] <ask-ygU5AP56> I 'fixed' the bootup process to use acpi_osi=Linux and acpi_backlight=vendor, that fixed the brightness controls from going haywire
[16:29] <ask-ygU5AP56> would it cause any issues here w/ the applet tho? it sees the battery... the os that is...
[16:29] <ask-ygU5AP56> even the stats inside the settings program shows it fine too
[16:44] <ask-ygU5AP56> (xfce4-power-manager:26019): xfce4-power-manager-WARNING **: 18:39:49.826: Unable to connect to session manager : Nie udało się połączyć z menadżerem sesji: SESSION_MANAGER environment variable not defined
[16:44] <ask-ygU5AP56> may be this is the issue?
[16:44] <ask-ygU5AP56> the power manager starts, just no icon
[17:32] <cristian_c> ask-ygU5AP56: battery stuff relies on acpi
[17:32] <ask-ygU5AP56> cristian_c, it's just iconthat's missing
[17:33] <cristian_c> so, if you change acpi parameter settings, it could be something related to battery monitor indicator
[17:33] <ask-ygU5AP56> if I go into the power manager settings, I see a battery etc
[17:33] <ask-ygU5AP56> also, running fce4-power-manager w/ --debug shows no errors
[17:33] <ask-ygU5AP56> xfce4*
[17:33] <cristian_c> there is a commabd in order to get info from battery
[17:33] <cristian_c> *command
[17:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> it's just ehe power icon on the try that's missing
[17:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> s/ehe/the
[17:34] <cristian_c> ask-ygU5AP56: ok, then you can try one thing
[17:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> sure, what do you suggest?
[17:34] <cristian_c> you could get lxpanel output
[17:35] <cristian_c> if you stop abd restart lxpanel from command line
[17:35] <cristian_c> the output tells you what items are loaded and which one not
[17:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> well, could it be that SESSION_MANAGER is not set like mentioned before?
[17:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> cr	i's not a lxpanel issue it it?
[17:36] <ask-ygU5AP56> it's a separate applet thats not working , xfvce power manager
[17:36] <ask-ygU5AP56> nothing to do w/ lxpanel
[17:36] <cristian_c> it has been a while since I restarted lxpanel from command line last time
[17:36] <ask-ygU5AP56> cristian_c, the applet is not loaded as a lxpanel applet, but as ann xfce4-power-manager icon
[17:37] <cristian_c> ok, so you have to look somewhere else
[17:37] <ask-ygU5AP56> which is just sperate program that then shows an icon in the "programs tray" applet in lxpanel
[17:38] <cristian_c> ask-ygU5AP56: if you try to re-enable acpi kernel grub paramenter to defsult, do you see the applet visible again?
[17:38] <cristian_c> *default
[17:39] <ask-ygU5AP56> will try if thats the case
[17:39] <cristian_c> it's a further option to exclude
[17:40] <cristian_c> Idon't remember how system tray applets are handled by lxde
[17:41] <cristian_c> I believe they sre stored in lxsession settigs
[17:41] <cristian_c> or .config/autostart
[17:50] <ask-ygU5AP56> yeah point is, even if I start the xfce power manager, it doesn't show the icon
[18:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> cristian_c, it's not the acpi issue
[18:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> cristian_c, I tried w/out the acpi lines, default vanilla grub settings
[18:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> no difference apart from either the brightness keys work or not
[18:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> but still, no icon in tray
[18:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> btw, xfce4-power-manager starts fine
[18:32] <ask-ygU5AP56> it just don't display the bloody icon no more in lxpanel
[18:32] <ask-ygU5AP56> under lxsession
[18:32] <ask-ygU5AP56> #xfce is either clueless or unwilling to help ("what, you're not running xfce vanilla?")
[18:33] <ask-ygU5AP56> 'sides, I think it's hardly an issue w/ xfce
[18:33] <ask-ygU5AP56> more lubuntu/ubuntu specific
[18:33]  * ask-ygU5AP56 seriously begins to ponder another distro/OS
[18:33] <ask-ygU5AP56> for a year now lubuntu was a fine companion
[18:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> but this new install on 18.04 is a meaningful amount of work
[18:34] <lynorian> ask-ygU5AP56, can you run xfce-power-mananger-settings
[18:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> yes
[18:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> changing the settings there to show or not show the icon in taskbar makes no difference
[18:34] <lynorian> ugh
[18:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> I do wonder about the error though, w/ --debug, about the SESSION - though mayhap when started by lxsession, the proper env variable is present
[18:35] <lynorian> ask-ygU5AP56, do you have a system tray in your lxpanel?
[18:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> yessir
[18:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> network manager and audio settings and other apps show up there fine
[18:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> just the power manager won't
[18:36] <krytarik> Just a sec guys..
[18:36] <ask-ygU5AP56> https://dualpaste.net/link/200error
[18:36] <ask-ygU5AP56> here's an output for xfce4-power-manager ran w/ --debug from console once inside lxsession
[18:37] <ask-ygU5AP56> what is the correct value for SESSION_MANAGER upon running xfce4-power-manager manually, in order for it to 'connect' to the running lxsession?
[18:38] <ask-ygU5AP56> (maybe that's the issue, though I doubt it, by providing the correct environmental value of it I'll try and provide a cleaner debug log)
[18:42] <ask-ygU5AP56> it's not really much of an issue
[18:42] <ask-ygU5AP56> I get more space in the tray this way
[18:42] <ask-ygU5AP56> but... it's just not doing what I want it to do
[18:42] <ask-ygU5AP56> and worked straight out the box
[18:42] <ask-ygU5AP56> so... I like fixing things..
[18:46] <ask-ygU5AP56> I read it may be to do w/ icon theme...
[18:48] <ask-ygU5AP56> I tried switching to Ubuntu icons default and the whole setttings window crashed...
[18:51] <krytarik> Well ok, since I see you started off by saying it worked initially, it won't be a general issue with the power manager or the panel really.
[18:52] <ask-ygU5AP56> well
[18:52] <ask-ygU5AP56> it does suggest a pebkac
[18:53] <ask-ygU5AP56> then again it's pretty much vanilla
[18:53] <ask-ygU5AP56> imma try add a new user or login as guest
[18:53] <ask-ygU5AP56> see if that applet pops up
[19:00] <ask-ygU5AP56> krytarik, fixed it, sorta
[19:00] <ask-ygU5AP56> at least I know what's causing it, more less
[19:00] <ask-ygU5AP56> .config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel
[19:01] <ask-ygU5AP56> throw that out, works fine
[19:01] <krytarik> lol
[19:01] <ask-ygU5AP56> ?
[19:01] <ask-ygU5AP56> I have the panel config file moved from another install, modified it in the end though to join the vanilla contents w/ my old settings
[19:02] <ask-ygU5AP56> nothing there to suggest offensive settings
[19:02] <ask-ygU5AP56> investigating further - for now, imma try and config the panel via the gui instead of manually in vim
[19:03] <krytarik> ..Yes, that might work out better. >_>
[19:03] <krytarik> I.e. I strongly suspect you corrupted the config by fiddling with it manually.
[19:09] <ask-ygU5AP56> krytarik, you suspect wrong
[19:10] <ask-ygU5AP56> krytarik, but the pebkac is still the right case; the 'tray' plugin from lxpanel entry is missing
[19:10] <ask-ygU5AP56> fixed and working correctly, I apologize for any possible inconvenience
[19:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> it's weird that the tray and indicator plugins are seperate plugins though, that's what got me on the wrong track for debugging in first place
[19:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> since other icons worked fine
[19:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> reckon tray and program icons in tray are handled differently
[19:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> whatever; works; cheers
[19:16] <krytarik> Ok, deliberately dropping the necessary applet off the config is even worse though.. >_>
[23:47] <cobra-the-joker> HEy guys , i am trying to install lubuntu on VirtualBox here , but all i am getting is a screen teared https://imagebin.ca/v/40mjuESNyfwh