[02:30] <Zunino> I've noticed that when the system is suspended and then resumed, screen tearing starts to occur. I've also found that going to "Compositor" settings, turning it off then back on seems to solve the issue. Anybody has any idea what could be taking place? This is Xubuntu 18.04 running on a Samsung laptop using the default Nouveau display driver.
[02:31] <Zunino> I have no clue what's going on, but the situation seems to suggest something is being deactivated when suspending and then failing to be restored when the system is resumed.
[04:01] <guiverc> posted on a g+ feed [of mine] 'Flavio Lima writes "Hello! I would like to congratulate the developers for the excellent work on Xubuntu. I've been using the OS for some time, and every day I'm more in love. The choice of the standard applications that come with the distro, is fantastic, simple and objective. Congratulations to all of you!"'
[04:02] <krytarik> Yeah, posted the same a bit earlier in the -offtopic channel too.
[04:04] <guiverc> :)  (didn't think of -offtopic)
[05:44] <akis> hi all. On your opinion which is the best way for a clean install of 18.04 with exactly the same configuration of my 16.04.4 system i run right now?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> 2.  make boot USB.  3. boot USB.  4.  select install > something else  5.  manually set /, swap and /home to current partitions.  6.  DO NOT FORMAT YOUR /home!
[05:47] <flocculant> shouldn't need to worry about swap - if it's there it will just find it
[05:47] <cfhowlett> yeah but since we're already doing a manual installation ...
[05:48] <flocculant> cfhowlett:I understand that - but it will just find it :)
[05:49] <flocculant> akis: if you have edited system files - in /etc for example you need to back them up - they'll get overwritten
[05:50] <flocculant> cfhowlett: also - if other os's are installed and use the same swap - changing it screws them up when they boot and swap uuid is now missing < experience :D
[05:51] <flocculant> akis: for instance I backup /etc/fstab, mpd stuff in /etc
[05:52] <akis> flocculant: actually some files are edited and my /home was configurated. what should i back to get the same confguration? Entire /home dir and /etc or else too?
[05:53] <flocculant> well good practice to backup anyway - but I'd certainly do /home and files you've edited
[05:55] <akis> flocculant: gsync is it recommended for a reliable backup?
[05:55] <flocculant> well
[05:56] <flocculant> here I have to admit to telling people to backup while failing to do so myself ...
[05:56] <flocculant> so - no idea I'm afraid
[05:57] <akis> ok, no prob. should I proceed with the clean installation now or wait for the 1st point release?
[05:57] <flocculant> ok - well I know that there are issues being dealt with - external to 'Xubuntu' but packages that we use, or could use
[05:58] <cfhowlett> Personally, I always wait for lts.1 for OS upgrades
[05:58] <flocculant> nvidia issues for example
[05:58] <flocculant> cfhowlett: ack for sure
[06:00] <flocculant> akis: you could grab the iso and check it out live - see how your hardware works, but I would likely (if I wasn't me) wait as cfhowlett suggests
[06:03] <akis> ok, i am not impatient, although the live system seems working preety well. Actually what I bother about is how to re-confugure my new system exactly my current one. are there any reviews for 18.04 or any test performance specially for xubuntu?
[06:03] <cfhowlett> phoronix did one IIRC?
[06:05] <cfhowlett> eh, no.  ubuntu not xubuntu
[06:05] <flocculant> akis: just exactly how is your disk layout setup?
[06:07] <akis> just exactly my applications and desktop are already configured
[06:08] <flocculant> not what I mean - I'm talking about disks/partitions
[06:09] <akis> that is easy enough.
[06:10] <akis> only one partition (with swap for which i decreased swapiness)
[06:11] <flocculant> k
[06:12] <flocculant> as far as performance goes - unless something has been done with your exact machine - you'll not find one
[06:16] <akis> I leave now, thank you for your time today, have a good day.
[09:54] <dreamon> have a PC with installed unity. now want to use xubuntu. Installed xbuntu-desktop but xfce4-appearance-setting was not installed too
[10:11] <dreamon> have it
[10:47] <Spass> dreamon, did you solve your problem?
[10:53] <dreamon> yes. ;9
[10:53] <dreamon> thanks
[10:58] <alsetema> Hello, does anyone know how to enable the "pop" sound when you lower or raise the volume in xubuntu 18.04? Thank you.
[13:08] <quibbler> hello! -- so, I have an install that was originally ubuntu, I converted over to xfce, and did an upgrade to 18.04.... Now the icons in xfce are completely broken... I've tried reinstalling all the normal themes, reinstalling thunar, updating icon caches... none of it has worked
[13:17] <Javabean> !patience
[14:47] <Spass> is there any GUI tool to slow down my mouse cursor or I have to rely on a configuration files? the touchpad and trackpoint are just too fast on my laptop on 18.04
[14:55] <GridCube> Spass: in the configurations menu there is a pointers settings area, there you can change the speed and aceleration
[14:56] <cfhowlett> settings > mouse & touchpad > Pointer Speed > acceleration
[14:57] <Spass> yeah, but that's only acceleration, not speed
[14:59] <Spass> GridCube, I've looked there  before asking, and iirc there was a speed slider there before, but now I can only see acceleration
[15:00] <GridCube> weird
[15:00] <GridCube> Spass: there should be a drop down menu where you can choose which pointer device to work on
[15:01] <GridCube> maybe you are touching the configuration of a different device?
[15:03] <Spass> the point is I have nothing to touch :) and yes, I have both my devices on that drop down list and I can change between them, but I can't see the speed slider, can someone send me a screenshot?
[15:04] <GridCube> im not on xubuntu at the moment so i cant
[15:12] <flocculant> Spass: doesn't appear to be acceleation any longer - look at https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/291752/faster-mouse-acceleration-on-xfce4
[15:17] <Spass> I was searching for an answer and it seems that I need to change the speed by xinput command and some script on system startup, it seems kind of weird to me that the system configuration tool doesn't provide a simple slider for that
[15:18] <flocculant> well someone obviously thought it wasn't weird - 16.04 had acceleration and sensitivity
[15:19] <flocculant> raise a bug report - but at bugzilla
[15:19] <Spass> on my dekstop my mouse works fine, so I don't miss that speed/sensitivity/resolution setting, but on my laptop the mouse cursor just flies :/
[15:19] <Spass> hard to even operate
[15:21] <flocculant> then it's a bug
[15:24] <Spass> why the developer decided to remove that essential (IMHO) feature I have no idea
[15:25] <cfhowlett> #xfce team would know
[15:26] <Spass> I'll try to ask there
[15:33] <Spass> ok, I'm not alone https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12140
[15:34] <Spass> reported on: 2015-08-16
[15:34] <cfhowlett> seems unlikely that a priority fix is forthcoming
[15:50] <likemindead> Anyone been able to install UNETBOOTIN on Xubuntu 18.04 yet?
[16:16] <likemindead> I'm wanting to make a Live USB but UNETBOOTIN won't install on 18.04 for some reason.
[19:30] <drleviathan> w00t! I've upgraded to 18.04 on my 2013 MacBookPro
[19:31] <drleviathan> I had a little trouble when xubuntu would not detect the Netgear EA 101 USB ethernet adapter which I usually use for installs.
[19:33] <drleviathan> Dunno exactly what went wrong, but I scrounged around, found a Netgear WG111T USB wireless stick, which Just Worked.
[19:34] <drleviathan> All this because the MBP wireless chipset is still not supported at install.  Gotta install bcmwl-kernel-source package after the fact.
[19:35] <drleviathan> I will now reboot to see if the screen turns black after installing the nvidia drivers.  I think maybe I made the changes necessary to prevent that, but we'll see.
[19:40] <drleviathan> yay! no black screen after installing nvidia drivers.  I added "nomodeset" to the grub kernel arguments which is supposed to solve that problem.
[22:22] <eblu> hey! i've been having some problems with xubuntu.
[22:22] <eblu> i'm not sure what's been happening but whenever i log in XFCE doesn't really "show up"
[22:23] <eblu> everything's still there. my wallpaper loads, my cursor changes depending on what's under it, but nothing renders aside from my top panel
[22:24] <eblu> things load properly after i log in if i switch TTYs, but that's a workaround and i want to fix the problem :P
[22:42] <drleviathan> eblu, have you considered copying your old xfce config files to the side and creating new default configs?
[22:42] <eblu> how do i go about doing so?
[22:42] <eblu> i tried deleting .config/xfce4 but that didn't help
[22:43] <eblu> i also tried purging the saved sessions
[22:43] <drleviathan> hrm... that was basically what I was thinking, although I wonder if there are other config files to move.
[22:43] <eblu> there should be, my panel layout remained after i deleted the files
[22:44] <drleviathan> perhaps move all of .config to the side (.old-config) and relog to see what is added to the new .config
[22:44] <eblu> alright, i'll try
[22:45] <drleviathan> then you could try moving .config to .new-config, moving .old-config back, and then copying contents of .new-config on top of that.
[22:49] <eblu> well, that didn't work
[22:49] <eblu> same outcome :(
[22:49] <drleviathan> bummer
[22:49] <drleviathan> are you on 18.04 or an older version?
[22:49] <eblu> yeah i'm on 18.04
[22:50] <eblu> fresh installed it last night
[22:51] <drleviathan> I fresh installed to 18.04 this morning.  I wonder if I'll see that problem.
[22:52] <drleviathan> eblu, do an "ls -lrt /var/log"   what are the most recent log files there?  I wonder if errors might be added to a relevant log file.
[22:52] <eblu> for reference, here's the list of packages i have installed
[22:52] <eblu> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RGNsc7HkCB/
[22:53] <eblu> here's the ls output
[22:53] <eblu> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wBnXmfV4K3/
[22:55] <drleviathan> eblu, could you make sure the contents of your home dir belong to you?  do "ls -l ~/"  The user+group look correct?
[22:55] <eblu> yeah, they're all assigned to me
[22:57] <drleviathan> oh this problem rings a bell... maybe make sure you have eye candy disabled?  I always run with minimal eye-candy so I don't remember where it is in the settings.
[22:57] <eblu> "eye-candy" as in the compositor?
[22:58] <drleviathan> yeah I think that is the thing
[22:58] <eblu> hm, i'll try
[23:04] <eblu> looks like that didn't work
[23:04] <eblu> tried removing the vala appmenu i installed, no dice there either
[23:04] <drleviathan> bummer.  I'm out of ideas.
[23:04] <eblu> hm
[23:04] <eblu> how do i reinstall all of the base packages?
[23:05] <drleviathan> dunno, I'd have to google
[23:12] <krytarik> This ain't Windows - willy-nilly reinstalling things usually doesn't help.
[23:12] <eblu> okay then
[23:13] <eblu> i'll see if i can find out how to take a peek at the logs
[23:15] <eblu> dang it, almost accidentally installed a snap :P
[23:15] <eblu> i'm not a believer in these sandboxed applications just yet
[23:16] <eblu> alright, let me relog and see what the logs say
[23:27] <eblu> in my endeavors to figure out what's wrong, i think i somehow made xubuntu think that it was windows http://i.imgur.com/XUts5EV.png
[23:28] <eblu> anyway, it appears that appmenu-gtk-module might be erroring out and causing my problem
[23:29] <eblu> aha, vala appmenu left behind a shell script
[23:30] <eblu> let me see if that works
[23:32] <eblu> AHA, turns out i had to reboot
[23:32] <eblu> forgot that not everything eliminates rebooting on linux
[23:32] <eblu> thanks for the help anyway guys!
[23:34] <eblu> sadly i'll have to redo my panel prefs again but that shouldn't be too hard
[23:38] <krytarik> This is why it was suggested to just rename, not remove.. >_>
[23:39] <eblu> it's ok, i didn't change anything too much
[23:56]  * ^Saso^ on 1:JOIN:#:/msg ????? ????
[23:57] <krytarik> ..Wut?