[01:35] <Guest54689> Hi everyone. I just recently re-installed this version and im having some trouble. The panels arent working properly. I went into the tweak tool and when I set it to Mutiny, the search wasnt there. When I set it back to familiar, I have a blank bottom panel and the top is all gone -- all I did was switch to the pre-set tweaks. Any advice would be s
[01:35] <Guest54689> uper helpful :)
[02:04] <kerigan> hi
[08:01] <liu> ji
[08:01] <liu> hi
[08:01] <liu> how are you
[14:55] <mate|87207> hi / test
[15:11] <pi__> hi
[15:44] <Iv> hello, I have a problem with my new graphic card
[15:44] <Iv> Is anyone willing and capable to help me?
[15:46] <diogenes_> !ask | Iv
[15:52] <Iv> ok, thank you, I just got a radeon hd 5970 for my computer : intel pentium g4560 with 8gb ram, I'm using ubuntu 16.04.4 mate 1.12.1. I try to play a game called war thunder and the screen gets full of flashy colors when I try to play it, what should I do?
[15:54] <diogenes_> Iv, has it ever run well on linux before?
[15:54] <Iv> It used to play well with my asus r7 250x
[15:54] <Iv> really well
[15:55] <diogenes_> you mean on a different pc it used to work well?
[15:55] <Iv> no on the same before i change the graphic card this afternoon
[15:56] <Iv> (same pc)
[15:56] <diogenes_> ok let's see, pastebin the output of: inxi -FxCBGxxxw
[15:59] <Iv> inxi -FxCBGxxxw /usr/bin/inxi: illegal option -- B Error 7: One of the options you entered in your script parameters: -FxCBGxxxw is not supported.The option may require extra arguments to work. For supported options (and their arguments), check the help menu: inxi -h
[16:00] <Iv> inxi doesnt seem to work...
[16:00] <diogenes_> Iv, ok just run: inxi -Fx
[16:00] <diogenes_> !pastebin
[16:01] <Iv> System:    Host: anon-MS-7A71 Kernel: 4.13.0-39-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)            Desktop: MATE 1.12.1 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3) Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial Machine:   Mobo: MSI model: Z270-A PRO (MS-7A71) v: 1.0 Bios: American Megatrends v: 1.00 date: 12/15/2016 CPU:       Dual core Intel Pentium G4560 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB            flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 14016            clock s
[16:01] <diogenes_> Iv, stop
[16:01] <diogenes_> before you get banned
[16:01] <diogenes_> read this message very carefully
[16:01] <diogenes_> !pastebin | Iv
[16:02] <Iv> ok, sorry
[16:03] <Iv> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pmMc8kNGkX/
[16:06] <diogenes_> it shows that you've got 2 graphics cards
[16:07] <diogenes_> and also how did you end up using 4.13 kernel on ubuntu 16.04? the default is 4.4
[16:08] <Iv> I have only 1 GPU
[16:09] <Iv> should I update my kernel?
[16:09] <diogenes_> no, i'm asking what manipulations you have done that you've changed the default kernel with the current one?
[16:11] <Iv> Idont think i did anything with the kernel
[16:12] <diogenes_> ok when and who installed the system on your pc? also why did you change the graphic card and what graphics card you have had preiously?
[16:12] <Iv> before i got this graphic card I tried to use 2 r7 250x with cross fire
[16:13] <Iv> so i used a few command lines that i didnt all understand, maybe that's the reason
[16:14] <diogenes_> yep, those commands might have spoiled many things
[16:15] <Iv> I installed the system on my pc and i upgraded my Ati radeon r7 250 x with a radeon hd 5970
[16:16] <Iv> Should I reinstall ubuntu?
[16:17] <diogenes_> first what game you trying to run? do other games work well? also it would be useful if you could make a screenshot of those colored artifacts that you get when you starting the game
[16:17] <Iv> It's quite a nice thing to do, not like windows taking 3 weeks to install updates...
[16:17] <Iv> ok i'm on it
[16:18] <alkisg> If you reinstall, use 18.04 which has support for newer cards
[16:21] <Iv> https://imgur.com/a/iW8DrAo
[16:22] <diogenes_> Iv, but the game kinds works and sound is ok it's only that you get that weird color?
[16:22] <Iv> https://imgur.com/a/ssdNZbI
[16:24] <Iv> yep, sound seems fine
[16:25] <Iv> and yes the game works exept for these colors
[16:25] <Iv> wich make it unplayable
[16:26] <Iv> by the way, thanks a lot for your time and help.
[16:30] <Iv> so, the best to do is to reinstall ubuntu mate 18.04?
[16:31] <diogenes_> Iv, yep, better do a fresh install of mate 18.04 NOT 16.04
[16:31] <diogenes_> and also, do you have a separate /home partition?
[16:32] <Iv> I'm not sure, but i have external hdd for saving personal data
[16:33] <diogenes_> run: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:33] <diogenes_> share the link you got
[16:34] <Iv> http://termbin.com/4xnf
[16:35] <Iv> why have a separate /home partition?
[16:35] <diogenes_> omg :)
[16:35] <Iv> i'm really amateur i guess
[16:36] <diogenes_> you've got en entire mess you partitions, ok then i'd advice you to do the following:
[16:36] <diogenes_> 1. back up all th important data to the extrnal hdd
[16:36] <diogenes_> 2. download mate 18.04
[16:36] <diogenes_> 3. run the installer and once you reach partitioning
[16:36] <diogenes_> you choose "something else"
[16:37] <diogenes_> there you make the following partitions:
[16:37] <Iv> i used auto...
[16:37] <diogenes_> 1st - / = 30 GB ext4
[16:37] <diogenes_> 2nd - /home = (as mucha s you like the bigger the better) ext4
[16:38] <diogenes_> NB; /home partition is the equivalend of drive d on windows
[16:38] <Iv> war thunder is 40.1 gb
[16:38] <diogenes_> 3rd - /boot/efi = 300 MB
[16:38] <diogenes_> that's all ^^^
[16:38] <Iv> i would like to have it on my ssd
[16:39] <diogenes_> and if your game has 40 GB then for /home partition you should use at least 100 GB
[16:39] <Iv> so 1st should be smaller?
[16:40] <diogenes_> 1st recommended is 30 GB
[16:40] <diogenes_> you run your game via steam?
[16:41] <Iv> https://imgur.com/a/1fOH37t
[16:41] <Iv> no i play it directly from download folder
[16:41] <Iv> i get it from gaijin.com
[16:42] <diogenes_> then you should backup that folder with the game and its configs so it would be easier to set all the thing up after you re-install
[16:44] <diogenes_> you could use that toshiba 120 for / and /boot/efi and that 1 TB for /home
[16:44] <Iv> i should just copy my war thunder folder and paste it after reinstall? or should i redownload the game?
[16:45] <diogenes_> just copy/paste should work (theoretically because i never played it)
[16:46] <Iv> ok that will be a lot faster
[16:46] <Iv> i dont really get the difference between / and /home
[16:47] <diogenes_> Iv, it's like on window / = Disk C
[16:47] <diogenes_>  /home = Disk D
[16:47] <diogenes_> when you re-install another system then you re-format the / partition
[16:48] <diogenes_> and you keep the /home partition, so that way all your data remain safe
[16:48] <Iv> ok but then if i want my game to be on ssd i have to paste my game folder in /war thunder
[16:49] <diogenes_> your ssd is the one with 120 GB right?
[16:49] <Iv> yes
[16:49] <Iv> but I need some special authorisation to paste on / ?
[16:50] <diogenes_> you will be able to copy it to / partition but you will need your user password
[16:50] <diogenes_> but i doubt it will work
[16:50] <Iv> ok, i think i tried and it didnt allow me...
[16:51] <diogenes_> probably it won't start or if it starts it won't be able to save your current record because it won't be able to write to /
[16:52] <diogenes_> anyway, we shall continue this discussion after you actually install the new system
[16:52] <Iv> so i will keep /home on / ?
[16:53] <Iv> but how do i format my drives then?
[16:53] <diogenes_> nope, you've got only 2 options, to either install the system with / - on ssd and /home on either the same aad (but the size will be small) or install /home on your hdd
[16:54] <diogenes_> you will be given the options to format them once you run the installer and you reach partitioning and choose "something else" option
[16:54]  * diogenes_ is offline
[16:56] <Iv> but if i cant write on / my ssd will be useless?
[18:36] <mate|82688> hi
[18:36] <mate|82688> anyone up there?
[18:37] <diogenes_> !ask
[18:38] <mate|82688> i have HP Notebook - 15q-by004ax and have installed ubuntu 18.04 in it, the wifi driver is missing, what to do?
[18:40] <diogenes_> mate|82688, did you run: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade?
[18:40] <mate|82688> yes
[18:40] <diogenes_> did it upgrade?
[18:41] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwz4gvLnAFK
[18:41] <mate|82688> it showed this
[18:42] <diogenes_> run: sudo lspci -nnk | grep Net -A3
[18:42] <diogenes_> and pastebin it
[18:43] <mate|82688> okay
[18:45] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/j2hlwZWWmYyUP
[18:46] <diogenes_> is that all you got ? 2 lines?
[18:47] <mate|82688> yes
[18:47] <diogenes_> mate|82688, pastebin: inxi - Fx
[18:48] <mate|82688> sorry, i didn't get what to do
[18:49] <diogenes_> in terminal run: inxi -Fx
[18:49] <mate|82688> okay
[18:49] <diogenes_> and pastebin the output
[18:50] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/j2hlwZBnJDwfP
[18:52] <diogenes_> run: sudo apt install inxi
[18:52] <diogenes_> after it installs run: inxi -Fx
[18:52] <mate|82688> okay
[18:55] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/g5hPj4oYl0ZTr
[18:59] <mate|82688> any one there??
[19:00] <diogenes_> mate|82688, and if you open driver manager?
[19:00] <diogenes_> do you have anything in ther?
[19:00] <diogenes_> there*
[19:02] <mate|82688> it shows , no additional drivers available
[19:02] <diogenes_> what is the mirror? is it your local mirror or the main one?
[19:03] <diogenes_> also in the driver manager but a different tab (i forgot which one)
[19:04] <mate|82688> i am not able to follow you, i dont know what is a mirror
[19:06] <diogenes_> ok, what are other tabs in the driver manager? (sorry i don't use any ubuntu so i can't remember)
[19:09] <mate|82688> i can't find any window as driver manager, although there is a window named software and update and it has a tab named additional drivers, which is empty by the way
[19:11] <diogenes_> mate|82688, ok, we can try one thing BUT i can't guarantee any positive result, you might even end up with a broken system so if you have nothing to loose then we can try
[19:12] <diogenes_> to lose*
[19:12] <mate|82688> okay, what we have to do?
[19:13] <diogenes_> run all the commands in terminal
[19:13] <diogenes_> and confirm with "done"
[19:13] <diogenes_> so first:
[19:13] <diogenes_> git clone https://github.com/smlinux/rtl8723de.git -b 4.11-up
[19:14] <diogenes_> also pastebin the output
[19:14] <mate|82688> just hang on a bit
[19:15] <mate|82688> i found the same problem on ask ubuntu
[19:15] <mate|82688> https://askubuntu.com/questions/974587/wifi-adapter-not-getting-identified
[19:16] <mate|82688> and there is a solution to it, but i don't get that, can you help me with that?
[19:17] <diogenes_> there is no solution on that page
[19:17] <diogenes_> did you run the command?
[19:18] <mate|82688> no not yet,
[19:18] <mate|82688> but this is, i think the solution
[19:18] <mate|82688> https://askubuntu.com/questions/961299/cannot-see-my-wifi-10ecd723-when-trying-ubuntu/989152#989152
[19:18] <mate|82688> solution no. 7
[19:19] <diogenes_> yep, you can try that
[19:19] <diogenes_> come back with a feedback on how it went
[19:21] <mate|82688> but is it safe to run and if yes, then can you please help me with the solution
[19:22] <diogenes_> you said you got nothing important to lose in case you got a broken system, so keep your usb with the system close to you so in case you need a re-install, you can  easily do it
[19:22] <diogenes_> so try that solution nr.7
[19:23] <mate|82688> okay, so for that i should just copy and paste the command in the terminal, right?
[19:24] <diogenes_> mate|82688, one at a time
[19:24] <diogenes_> one line, then second and so on
[19:25] <mate|82688> okay
[19:27] <mate|82688> please be here, while i do the commands
[19:30] <mate|82688> i did the first segment of codes, i.e. first 5 lines
[19:30] <mate|82688> and i didn't get wifi
[19:30] <diogenes_> ok go to the second
[19:30] <diogenes_> and after you done, you have to reboot
[19:31] <mate|82688> okay
[19:33] <mate|82688> it is asking for the username on github
[19:33] <diogenes_> asking when you run waht command?
[19:33] <mate|82688> git clone https://github.com/smlinux/rtl8723.git -b 4.11-up
[19:33] <mate|82688> when i ran this
[19:35] <mate|82688> you there??
[19:35] <diogenes_> ok just try to reboot now then we will see
[19:36] <mate|82688> okay, but what if it still does not show the wifi, what shall i do?
[19:36] <diogenes_> you come back here
[19:37] <mate|82688> okay
[19:37] <mate|82688> i just noticed one thing, when i ran make command it showed this
[19:38] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/wjh04gqmPyKTv
[19:39] <mate|82688> you there??
[19:40] <diogenes_> wait
[19:41] <diogenes_> run: sudo apt install build-essential
[19:42] <mate|82688> okay
[19:44] <mate|82688> i did that, now what?
[19:44] <diogenes_> sudo apt install libelf-dev libelf-devel elfutils-libelf-devel
[19:45] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwz4kKVz6CK
[19:45] <mate|82688> it gave the following output
[19:46] <diogenes_> sudo apt install libelf-dev libelf-dev elfutils-libelf-dev
[19:47] <diogenes_> try that one and just tell me if you got the same message
[19:48] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/qjhLxJEEkNMCB
[19:48] <mate|82688> got this
[19:49] <diogenes_> sudo apt install libelf-dev libelf-dev
[19:50] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/8qhOAB2yAx7f0
[19:50] <mate|82688> what next?
[19:51] <diogenes_> run: pwd
[19:51] <diogenes_> paste here
[19:51] <diogenes_> the output
[19:51] <diogenes_> not pastebin
[19:54] <mate|82688> it in /home/hitman/rtl8723de
[19:54] <diogenes_> ok
[19:54] <diogenes_> now run: make
[19:54] <mate|82688> okay
[19:55] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/qjhLxJM1WkgfB
[19:55] <mate|82688> got this
[19:56] <diogenes_> now try to google this: error: code model kernel does not support PIC mode
[19:56] <diogenes_> see if you get any solutions
[19:57] <mate|82688> okay
[19:58] <mate|82688> please you also try,
[20:01] <diogenes_> ok you there?
[20:02] <mate|82688> yes
[20:02] <mate|82688> what to do?
[20:02] <diogenes_> run: ls | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:02] <diogenes_> paste here the link you get
[20:03] <mate|82688> okay, btw what is this for
[20:03] <diogenes_> it lists the files in that folder
[20:04] <mate|82688> http://termbin.com/nohb
[20:05] <diogenes_> run: cat MakeFile | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:06] <diogenes_> link
[20:07] <mate|82688> it shows no such file or directory
[20:07] <diogenes_> run: cat Makefile | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:09] <mate|82688> http://termbin.com/uvj1y
[20:10] <mate|82688> just to know, what are you doing with the links?
[20:12] <diogenes_> i'm studying them and also playing chess in parallel and also helping people on other channels
[20:13] <diogenes_> so you're using ubuntu gnome or ubuntu mate?
[20:13] <mate|82688> ubuntu mate
[20:13] <diogenes_> ok then run: pluma Makefile
[20:14] <mate|82688> okay
[20:14] <diogenes_> did it open a document?
[20:17] <mate|82688> yes
[20:17] <mate|82688> what to do now?
[20:17] <diogenes_> paste here in the chat the first line from that document (no pastebin)
[20:18] <mate|82688> EXTRA_CFLAGS += $(USER_EXTRA_CFLAGS)
[20:19] <diogenes_> ok add this to that line so it look like: EXTRA_CFLAGS += $(USER_EXTRA_CFLAGS) -fno-pie
[20:19] <mate|82688> why do you ask sometime for pastebin and sometime direct in the chat?
[20:19] <diogenes_> yes
[20:19] <diogenes_> because you can paste here in the chat if there is less than 3 lines
[20:20] <diogenes_> if there is more, then pastebin
[20:20] <mate|82688> okay
[20:20] <mate|82688> should i save it?
[20:21] <diogenes_> first paste the result once again here
[20:21] <diogenes_> in the chat
[20:21] <mate|82688> which result?
[20:22] <diogenes_> the first line after you have modified it
[20:22] <mate|82688> EXTRA_CFLAGS += $(USER_EXTRA_CFLAGS) -fno-pie
[20:23] <diogenes_> ok now save, close
[20:23] <diogenes_> after that, run again: make
[20:23] <diogenes_> and pastebin
[20:23] <mate|82688> okay
[20:24] <mate|82688> what should i pastebin, there is no output
[20:24] <diogenes_> did you run: make?
[20:24] <mate|82688> no
[20:25] <diogenes_> so run it
[20:25] <mate|82688> okay
[20:26] <mate|82688> https://thepasteb.in/p/8qhOAByNQXET0
[20:30] <mate|82688> you there?
[20:30] <diogenes_> patience
[20:30] <mate|82688> yes sure
[20:36] <diogenes_> mate|82688, ok, run this: sudo ldconfig
[20:36] <mate|82688> okay
[20:38] <mate|82688> it did not give any output
[20:38] <diogenes_> now you go ahead and reboot, notice you won't be getting any wifi after this reboot, just come back here and we will try to compile it once again
[20:39] <mate|82688> but on rebooting this window will close, so how can i start from here only?
[20:39] <mate|82688> but on rebooting, this window will close, so how can i start from here only?
[20:40] <diogenes_> what do you mean?
[20:40] <diogenes_> are you using firefox window?
[20:41] <mate|82688> no, google chrome
[20:41] <diogenes_> ok then save the link some where and after reboot you join here again
[20:42] <mate|82688> okay
[20:52] <Iv> hi
[20:54] <diogenes_> hi
[20:54] <Iv> Oh you again, I'm lucky
[20:55] <Iv> I reinstalled everything redownloaded my game and it's not working at all anymore...
[20:55] <diogenes_> you mean it doesn't start?
[20:56] <Iv> nope i get a crash report
[20:56] <diogenes_> ok pastebin the crasxh report
[20:59] <Iv> https://imgur.com/a/f1CdTVl
[20:59] <Iv> https://imgur.com/a/dXI5AD0
[21:01] <diogenes_> ok after installing the system, did you run sudo apt upate && sudo apt upgrade?
[21:02] <Iv> no, just the update manager
[21:02] <Iv> should i do it now?
[21:02] <diogenes_> yes try that
[21:02] <diogenes_> in terminal
[21:03] <Iv> 0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
[21:04] <Iv> no update needed
[21:04] <diogenes_> ok in terminal: wine --version
[21:04] <diogenes_> paste here if you get anything
[21:05] <Iv> but i dont use wine
[21:05] <diogenes_> give me the link where did you download the game form
[21:05] <diogenes_> from*
[21:06] <Iv> nope i can install it with sudo apt install wine-development or sudo apt install wine-stable
[21:07] <diogenes_> nope what? i mean the game that doesn't start, what is the website?
[21:07] <Iv> https://yupmaster.gaijinent.com/launcher/current.php?id=WarThunderLauncherLinux
[21:07] <Iv> i was talking about wine...
[21:09] <Iv> oh and i was wrong the game weights 20 gigas not 40
[21:10] <diogenes_> Iv, go to the folder where the game launcher is
[21:11] <Iv> yes
[21:12] <diogenes_> right click on some white free space and open terminal
[21:18] <Iv> ubuntu mate 18.04 looks really nice by the way
[21:24] <Iv> diogenes_ are you still there?
[21:24] <diogenes_> Iv, i've asked you to do something so i'm waiting
[21:25] <Iv> oh ok, i opened the terminal from the game folder, sorry
[21:25] <diogenes_> ok now paste here in the chat the output of: pwd
[21:47] <vrtl> Hey guys. I have a quesiton.
[21:47] <vrtl> Does MATE do fractional scaling? (1.5x)
[21:47] <vrtl> I'm on a 4k system right now. Only DE that is able to decently do scaling is KDE. Unity did a great job too. Other distros just fail.
[22:08] <timnz> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-hidpi-first-steps/12809/9
[22:09] <timnz> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WQjmRVw3/
[22:13] <vrtl> So there is no fractional scaling yet.
[22:14] <vrtl> Because I got a bit confused by this reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuMATE/comments/8g7bvi/hidpi_is_brilliant_but_how_does_it_work/
[22:14] <vrtl> xrandr is not the solution, it's buggy.
[22:15] <vrtl> Causes graphical glitching. Elements dissapearing like buttons and pieces of text. Appearing only when hovered over.
[22:15] <vrtl> And I'm looking to run Mate 18.04
[23:24] <Dekkard> would I be correct to assume there will be no online update till 18.10 ?