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onefallenWild_Man I made it Thanks Bud!00:06
Bashing-omonefallen: :)00:07
krytarikOooh!  There we go! \o/00:08
onefallenI did not see you till just now Bashing-om and Hello to krytarik also ;)00:09
Bashing-omonefallen: I too just arrived .. see what we are all up to .. and then GO .00:09
onefallenYep same here after finding out I could not use 1fallen as a nick! LOL00:11
krytarik"lfallen" - and nobody will see the diff even! :P00:13
krytarikSeriously, that's not too bad.. >_>00:13
Bashing-omonefallen: Them little things that make for such hugh stumbling blocks . Have you gained write access yet ?00:13
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onefallenWrite access to what? Lead me oh wise one00:16
Bashing-omonefallen: u had in mind the UWN gdoc working document and the UWN to be wiki .00:17
Bashing-omI had in mind*00:17
onefallen@ krytarik yes i don't care about a name but trying to login here with 1fallen was my pitfall00:19
oerheksCosmic C*(animal) - https://twitter.com/popey/status/99244753373674291500:19
oerheksCrocodile, Centipede, C...00:20
onefallenBashing-om still trying to get that sorted out for the Wiki>>>ever since I stepped down as Mod I can no longer login to Wiki or LP00:21
krytarikoerheks: Heh, another blog I see.. >_>00:21
Bashing-omkrytarik: But good ^^ to report .. good 'nuff for "General News " ?00:23
krytarikAre ye kiddin? :P00:23
onefallenDido ^^^00:24
onefallenI like the reference to Cobra sounds better than camel00:25
krytarikI mean even OMG Ubuntu only got bothered enough after a few days with no more than the half announced codename to throw out a blog post on it..00:26
oerhekswell, development is in the repos, with a name00:27
Bashing-omkrytarik: as much as I try to keep ip. I was not aware tht (C)animal was just a place holder. Sure others are also unprepared :(00:27
Bashing-omip/up*00:27
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic00:27
onefallenYep seen that link^^^00:28
Bashing-omI vetted for ' canny canine ' .. will settle happily for cosmic canine :)00:30
krytarikWell, while there is still no official announcement of even half the name, and the archive of it hasn't been opened yet either, I guess if we really wanted we could follow the lead of all the blogs and just link to any of them... >_>00:31
onefallenYep we did here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239088600:32
Wild_Manhi onefallen00:36
onefallenHiya Wild_Man Guys I just got done with a bike race so I'm going to get soom food in me see you all soon :D00:37
Wild_Mancongrats 3rd place is awesome!00:38
onefallenOpps Some not Soom00:38
onefallenThanks no so bad for a old fart (Me)00:38
Wild_Mannot bad for someone half your age00:39
Wild_Manor 20 even00:39
Bashing-omonefallen: Or as soon/soom .. as the case may be :)00:39
onefallenHa Ha See you all Cheers and Thanks Wild_Man00:40
krytarikPage closers.. :(00:40
Wild_ManI was going to post a link and tell him why he can no longer edit wiki pages and how to fixd t00:41
krytarik(I was kidding there.)00:42
Wild_ManI am going to send him a pm, I have one from him that I need to reply to anyway00:43
krytarik...I think my opinion on this is, wait until 1.) the full release codename is known, and 2.) any official annoucement has been made.  Other than that, at the start of next week, we'll likely see the opening of its archive for development anyway, with an announcement we can refer to.01:04
Bashing-omThat sounds like a winner to me . We wait :)01:06
krytarikTo anyone having brought up the topic actually.01:06
krytarikOr we could just link to the LP page of the series and write something handmade on it.. >_>01:08
Wild_Manhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/cosmic/01:12
krytarikNo, not that, the other one.01:12
Wild_Manokay01:12
Wild_ManI was not sure01:12
krytarikWell, it's not Launchpad. >_>01:12
Wild_Manas far as I know the second part of the name is just a guess at this point01:13
krytarikNo, it's nothing yet.01:13
Wild_Manonly this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic01:13
krytarikWonder if we get the full name within next week already too. >_>01:15
Wild_Manhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20180505/01:16
Wild_Manit will be old news in a week01:17
Wild_ManI guess Cosmic CANIMAL is the full name but they are slow at an official announcement01:20
krytarikHahaha, see it worked on you too! :P01:21
krytarikNeither part of the codename was ever spelt in all uppercase - so this is what got me suspicious immediately.01:22
Wild_ManI see, I try to take things at face value01:24
krytarikTbh, the OMG Ubuntu post on it isn't too unfunny written.. >_>01:34
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Bashing-omStart the gdoc's migration to the wiki now ?17:12
krytarikCould do, yes.17:13
Bashing-omgonna begin creating the wiki page :)17:13
Bashing-omgdoc is coppied to the new wiki - issue 526 :) Next who up ?17:49
krytarikStart doing the data gathering bits?17:52
Bashing-omkrytarik: Sure I can do that - does not matter who does what so long as we keep up with the "order of operations" :P17:54
krytarik(Leave the updates one to me like last time though.)17:54
Bashing-omkrytarik: I be slow but I will work at it .17:55
krytarikI mean can of course share the tasks with Wild_Man too - but myself I'd like to meddle less with it to get you two the necessary experience.17:56
Bashing-omkrytarik: Oh most certainly agree .. I work at that learning experience . I just be real slow and careful .17:58
Bashing-omAs only one can be in the wiki at a time .. just falls on who has the time and motivation to get it done .17:59
krytarikNot quite - like the last time, when I just pasted the stuff I gathered for you to copy into it.18:00
Bashing-omkrytarik: caught up and awaiting :) awaiting too to 'save' .18:35
krytarikYou can save at any time.. :P18:35
Bashing-omgonna save at this time :) - I feel the better -  and done .18:37
Wild_ManLooks like you are way ahead of the game18:46
Wild_ManI would have put it on the wiki tonight but my days are pretty busy at the moment18:47
Bashing-omWild_Man: I have the time .. and need the practice to make perfect :)18:48
Wild_ManOkay, I just do not want you to feel like you have to do it all, thanks! :)18:49
Bashing-omWild_Man: I have a hard day outside tomorrow so will be late before I can re-focus on UWN .18:50
Bashing-omkrytarik: Any heart-burn if I go ahead and add the images to the wiki page at this time ?18:53
krytarikNo, of course not - just like the last time.  And sorry, busy with other things right now (scripting..), gonna have a look at what you got there yet a bit later.18:57
Wild_ManBashing-om, imo no need to wait on that and we need to also remove the sections we are not going to use, I can do that if you want me too/18:57
Bashing-omWild_Man: I was going wait to remove the comments and such until we were sure all additionas were complete.18:59
Wild_Manthey are we do not need to add anything else this late, yesterday was the deadline19:00
Bashing-omWild_Man: Ya want to do the " Ubuntu Forums Top 5 Threads " prior to removing comments and remove the unused sections ?19:06
Wild_ManYes I will do it19:17
Wild_Mankrytarik, I can not find where we talked about the criteria you used to get the links from the forum when you do the search, I have looked through my logs, can you post it here and I will paste it to my file for future reference? Thanks! I have to run out for a little bit but not long19:29
krytarikWild_Man: It's all in the comments on the section - when you just visit the link posted there, it'll already have set the right search criteria.19:34
krytarikBashing-om: So I just a first quick look at the page - if you'd like to drop the comments and unused sections, then I'd do the 1.) forums section, 2.) updates section as promised, 3.) fix all things still left, and 4.) post the end result plus diff for you.20:05
Bashing-omkrytarik: more than willing but Wild_Man has said he would do .20:06
krytarikWell, the one who gets to it first, has the lock..20:09
Bashing-omkrytarik: Wild_Man :: I have the time .. and will remove comments at this time :)20:12
Bashing-omkrytarik: Remind me again. how do I populate the "In this Issue" section ?20:30
krytarik"./summary.pl 526"20:32
krytarikOh, "summary-uwn.pl" actually.20:32
krytarikDoing the forums one right now.20:35
Bashing-omkrytarik: i did try the foeum one, Do not inderstand what I am looking at - my result was 10 pages of posts .20:37
krytarikhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/PGFlDTnuR3MwPJjUcMfp/20:40
krytarikYes, that's also covered by the comment.20:40
Bashing-omsorry for denseness. do not get how to get how to do the forum top posts :( . awaiting the complete wiki beforing ruuning summary-uwn.pl .20:42
krytarikWell, once you have dropped the unused sections (and subsections like the Ubuntu membership one), you can actually already run the summary script.20:44
Bashing-omNothing for "Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings" right ? So I can remove that section from the wiki page ?20:55
krytarikYup.  Yup.20:56
Bashing-omkrytarik: K; awaiting Updates and Security pasteings .21:00
krytarikhttp://paste.openstack.org/raw/W1J9YcgTDFLRQGEuB8WI/21:00
onefallenBashing-om I have some links if you want them for Cosmic21:04
onefallenbut not for  "Team Meetings"21:05
krytarikWell, this week is already done anyway - whatever you mean by "some links"21:06
onefallenfor on example: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-18-10-dropping-i386-images/16715?u=wimpy21:07
krytarikWell, we've already got a post on that.21:08
onefallenstill geeting my sea legs here how about: https://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-18-10-features-release-date-download/21:08
Bashing-omkrytarik: updates section done . now back to the forum top posts . Still do not get it ! I can be dumber than a box of rocks :P21:10
onefallenone more if it is usefull https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/ubuntu-18-10-codename21:10
Bashing-omonefallen: We have passed on that one also .. will await the final to report :)21:11
krytarikBashing-om: The missing space in "67575(+190)" and some occurrences of camelcase not being covered yet are further things I've immediately spotted - if you wanna fix those already too.. :)21:11
Bashing-omkrytarik: on ot .. for the space and CamelCases .21:12
krytarikBashing-om: And well, I've also already pasted the forums stuff above.21:12
onefallenkrytarik tell me what would make me usefull here>>>Tell the new kid what I can add as far as Summaries21:13
Bashing-omthunder here .. I may loose power . looking at the radar next .21:14
krytarikonefallen: Well, right now just hold off until the new week with another issue starts. :)21:14
Wild_ManI am back for a few minutes then have to eat and will be back21:15
onefallenSounds Good21:15
Wild_Manhello onefallen21:15
Wild_Mancan you still log into the forum?21:15
krytarikWild_Man: I think we've got it all covered (did forums myself) or will have shortly.21:16
onefallenHello Wild_Man I was able to login to UF with Old Acoount still.21:16
Wild_Manwhat about new account?21:16
Wild_Manthe old account is disabled so I do not think you can post from it21:17
onefallenHa! Don't want to push that yet>>but it lets me in to LP (New Account)21:17
krytarikonefallen: https://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-18-10-features-release-date-download/ - we already got that covered too.21:18
Wild_Manokay will if you have an issue let me know and we will work it out that I have access too, did you apply to join the wiki team I sent you the link to yet?21:18
onefallenthe old account is disabled>>not the email used with 1fallen21:19
Wild_Manok, I can disable the email if you want to reuse that email address21:19
onefallen@krytarik Good to here just making sure21:19
onefallenNo don't disable that email please!21:20
krytarikonefallen: The only thing that isn't covered yet and won't be until there is a full codename announced is... that.21:20
onefallenOk krytarik if I see any news I will add it here then, if not alrerady done21:22
krytarikYeah, I believe everyone will pretty soon know of it then.. :D21:22
Wild_Manonefallen, did you apply to join the wiki team I sent you the link to yet?21:23
onefallenYes i did WILD_maN21:23
Wild_ManOkay!21:24
onefallenOMG I hate this keyboard21:24
Bashing-omkrytarik: Caught up. can I now run the summary-uwn.pl script while I am in editing mode in the wiki ?21:35
Bashing-omkrytarik: Going over my head again is the "This gets added right before you publish bullet points of table of contents" .21:37
krytarikWell, if you wanna copy the page content to a local file and pass that to the script instead, then yes.  Otherwise it can only get the currently published state of the page, of course.21:40
krytarikOh also, like I said the last time, feel free to add instructions on using the script to the comment on the summary section in the template.21:45
Bashing-omkrytarik: Will wait and do the "table of contents" . can I run the summary-uwn.pl script while I am still in editing mode in the wiki ?21:46
krytarikSee above.21:46
krytarikOtherwise yes.21:46
Bashing-omkrytarik: If I understood what I was doing, I would not be such and ass .21:47
krytarikI.e. you have to save it first, but then it doesn't matter if you still linger in the editor.21:47
Bashing-omK21:48
Bashing-omkrytarik: Nope, do not know what I am doing. I copied the table of contents to local file as "toc526' and ran ' ./summary-uwn.pl /home/sysop/work/toc526 ' . I did not see any result (??) .21:56
krytarikWell, yoo have to copy the plain text of the whole page - i.e. ctrl+a → ctrl+c from the editor.21:58
krytarikYooo! :D21:59
Bashing-omkrytarik: Oh ! .. try'n once more :)22:02
Bashing-omkrytarik: I do not see any result . ctl+a - ctl+c ( the entire wiki edit ) - paste to local file and ran "./summary-uwn.pl /home/sysop/work/toc52622:09
Bashing-om" . What am I missing ?22:09
krytarikWell, that should be it..22:10
krytarikCare to "pastebinit /home/sysop/work/toc526" just for fun?22:11
Bashing-omkrytarik: http://termbin.com/fgbd22:12
krytarik"LOL"22:12
Bashing-omI say again .. I do not know what I am doing :P22:13
krytarik(You didn't copy the whole page as explained, but again just the generated ToC.)22:14
krytarik"i.e. ctrl+a → ctrl+c from the editor" - notice the bit about the editor too.22:15
Wild_Manhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/720445/22:15
krytarikBashing-om: The above can only be based on the currently published state of the page, of course - so if you got any changes still pending...22:17
krytarikYou forgot to drop the security updates in too btw.  And some minor formatting issues also.22:22
Bashing-omkrytarik: The only change I am currently aware of is to remove "WORK IN PROGRESS" - If we all agree we are done .22:22
krytarikSo you saved all of your changes yet?22:23
Bashing-omkrytarik: Yup - saved now .22:28
Bashing-omwe need to verify all links ?22:29
krytarikNaw.22:29
Bashing-omAgreed links are good .. we all done ?22:30
krytarikNaw.22:30
krytarik(Hold on.)22:30
krytarik"Ask (and answer!) questions at: https://askubuntu.com/" - oooh, we could add something similar for the forums subsection too!22:35
krytarik(You two feel free to come up with a proper (different) wording.)22:36
Bashing-omkrytarik: I try abd see what I can come up with .. a CamelCase in the "LoCo News" where loco is not comming clean for me .22:37
krytarikYeah, I see that now too - fixing here along with the rest.22:41
Bashing-omWild_Man: askubuntu.com/ - ubuntu forums . How about " A place to ask and contains answers to your ubuntu questions."22:44
Wild_ManBashing-om, are you shooting for one heading for ask ubuntu and the forums? instead of a heading for each?22:50
Bashing-omWild_Man: re-writting " Ask (and answer!) questions at: https://askubuntu.com/" .22:51
krytarikI swear, Ko Ko Ye` is just about to lose his backtick! :P22:53
Wild_ManBashing-om, FTR Asked and Answered is the same heading ask ubuntu uses in the own news letter it may be that way for conformity22:53
Wild_ManLOL22:54
krytarikWild_Man: No, I suggested we have something similar for the forums section.22:55
Bashing-omkrytarik: I tried Ko Ko Ye 's lo``co three times in different ways and could not get loco clean :(22:56
krytarikBashing-om: Well, I indicated you should hold on..22:56
Wild_Mankrytarik, it is likely the threads we find using the search terms will have replies yes but may not have the correct answer, so I do not recommend asked and answered22:56
krytarikWell, the same is true for AU too.22:57
Wild_ManReally? thought we only published there solved questions22:59
Wild_ManIf you are not concerned with the heading being descriptive necessarily then it works, I do not mind either way23:00
krytarikFwiw, that's not a heading in either case - it's mainly just to link to the respective venue.23:03
krytarik(And below the lists.)23:03
krytarikOk, byebye trailing backtick...23:11
krytarik(I already tried to make it show literal backticks before, and it didn't work out then either..)23:12
krytarikBashing-om: Full text: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/jDAOBl6Wo3VLOJ87wu4r/ , diff: http://paste.openstack.org/show/qfvaLKGmX9wumtysPZ1y/23:22
Bashing-omWild_Man: Leave the trailing link for the forum also as " Ask (and answer!) questions at: https://ubuntuforums.org/ " . Seems good to me .23:23
krytarikLike I said, it shouldn't be literally the same wording..23:23
krytarikguiverc_d: o/23:24
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guivercg'day krytarik23:24
Bashing-omWild_Man: A place of ubuntu information: https://ubuntuforums.org/23:27
Wild_ManSearch solved questions at https://ubuntuforums.org/23:28
Wild_ManI am pondering on it23:28
Bashing-omWild_Man: Seek amd ye shall find : https://ubuntuforums.org/23:29
krytarikOr we reword the other a little too.23:29
krytarikOr we just drop the other too and be done! :P23:30
Wild_ManSearch already answered questions https://ubuntuforums.org/23:30
Bashing-omkrytarik: naw .. let's keep the AU link .. and come up with one for the forum .23:30
Wild_ManSearch already answered questions or ask your own https://ubuntuforums.org/23:30
Wild_ManThat works for me23:31
krytarikWild_Man: But what if I got a totally new one? :'(23:31
Wild_Mankrytarik, ^^^23:31
krytarikI mean already answered is fine, but...23:32
Wild_Mankrytarik, did you see this? I posted it right after I realized it may bed better like this Search already answered questions or ask your own https://ubuntuforums.org/23:34
krytarikOh, overlooked the "own" indeed..23:35
Wild_Manit was an after thought , I think about the same time you thought it23:35
krytarikBut still nah...23:36
Bashing-omAsk, find & tutorials: https://ubuntuforums.org/23:39
krytarikHow about: AU) "Find more questions or ask ones at: ...", forums) "Find more threads and start new ones at: ..."23:47
krytarikErm, "or", "and"..23:47
krytarikI would go with "or" for both.23:48
krytarikI mean it's boring as heck, but..23:49
krytarikBashing-om: Rather than applying my changes on the page individually, like previously just copy and paste the full text I posted too.23:52
Bashing-omkrytarik: K' looking .23:53
krytarikOh, or this wasn't based on my pastes at all yet.. :)23:54

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