[00:06] <onefallen> Wild_Man I made it Thanks Bud!
[00:07] <Bashing-om> onefallen: :)
[00:08] <krytarik> Oooh!  There we go! \o/
[00:09] <onefallen> I did not see you till just now Bashing-om and Hello to krytarik also ;)
[00:09] <Bashing-om> onefallen: I too just arrived .. see what we are all up to .. and then GO .
[00:11] <onefallen> Yep same here after finding out I could not use 1fallen as a nick! LOL
[00:13] <krytarik> "lfallen" - and nobody will see the diff even! :P
[00:13] <krytarik> Seriously, that's not too bad.. >_>
[00:13] <Bashing-om> onefallen: Them little things that make for such hugh stumbling blocks . Have you gained write access yet ?
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[00:16] <onefallen> Write access to what? Lead me oh wise one
[00:17] <Bashing-om> onefallen: u had in mind the UWN gdoc working document and the UWN to be wiki .
[00:17] <Bashing-om> I had in mind*
[00:19] <onefallen> @ krytarik yes i don't care about a name but trying to login here with 1fallen was my pitfall
[00:19] <oerheks> Cosmic C*(animal) - https://twitter.com/popey/status/992447533736742915
[00:20] <oerheks> Crocodile, Centipede, C...
[00:21] <onefallen> Bashing-om still trying to get that sorted out for the Wiki>>>ever since I stepped down as Mod I can no longer login to Wiki or LP
[00:21] <krytarik> oerheks: Heh, another blog I see.. >_>
[00:23] <Bashing-om> krytarik: But good ^^ to report .. good 'nuff for "General News " ?
[00:23] <krytarik> Are ye kiddin? :P
[00:24] <onefallen> Dido ^^^
[00:25] <onefallen> I like the reference to Cobra sounds better than camel
[00:26] <krytarik> I mean even OMG Ubuntu only got bothered enough after a few days with no more than the half announced codename to throw out a blog post on it..
[00:27] <oerheks> well, development is in the repos, with a name
[00:27] <Bashing-om> krytarik: as much as I try to keep ip. I was not aware tht (C)animal was just a place holder. Sure others are also unprepared :(
[00:27] <Bashing-om> ip/up*
[00:27] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic
[00:28] <onefallen> Yep seen that link^^^
[00:30] <Bashing-om> I vetted for ' canny canine ' .. will settle happily for cosmic canine :)
[00:31] <krytarik> Well, while there is still no official announcement of even half the name, and the archive of it hasn't been opened yet either, I guess if we really wanted we could follow the lead of all the blogs and just link to any of them... >_>
[00:32] <onefallen> Yep we did here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2390886
[00:36] <Wild_Man> hi onefallen
[00:37] <onefallen> Hiya Wild_Man Guys I just got done with a bike race so I'm going to get soom food in me see you all soon :D
[00:38] <Wild_Man> congrats 3rd place is awesome!
[00:38] <onefallen> Opps Some not Soom
[00:38] <onefallen> Thanks no so bad for a old fart (Me)
[00:39] <Wild_Man> not bad for someone half your age
[00:39] <Wild_Man> or 20 even
[00:39] <Bashing-om> onefallen: Or as soon/soom .. as the case may be :)
[00:40] <onefallen> Ha Ha See you all Cheers and Thanks Wild_Man
[00:40] <krytarik> Page closers.. :(
[00:41] <Wild_Man> I was going to post a link and tell him why he can no longer edit wiki pages and how to fixd t
[00:42] <krytarik> (I was kidding there.)
[00:43] <Wild_Man> I am going to send him a pm, I have one from him that I need to reply to anyway
[01:04] <krytarik> ...I think my opinion on this is, wait until 1.) the full release codename is known, and 2.) any official annoucement has been made.  Other than that, at the start of next week, we'll likely see the opening of its archive for development anyway, with an announcement we can refer to.
[01:06] <Bashing-om> That sounds like a winner to me . We wait :)
[01:06] <krytarik> To anyone having brought up the topic actually.
[01:08] <krytarik> Or we could just link to the LP page of the series and write something handmade on it.. >_>
[01:12] <Wild_Man> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/cosmic/
[01:12] <krytarik> No, not that, the other one.
[01:12] <Wild_Man> okay
[01:12] <Wild_Man> I was not sure
[01:12] <krytarik> Well, it's not Launchpad. >_>
[01:13] <Wild_Man> as far as I know the second part of the name is just a guess at this point
[01:13] <krytarik> No, it's nothing yet.
[01:13] <Wild_Man> only this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic
[01:15] <krytarik> Wonder if we get the full name within next week already too. >_>
[01:16] <Wild_Man> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20180505/
[01:17] <Wild_Man> it will be old news in a week
[01:20] <Wild_Man> I guess Cosmic CANIMAL is the full name but they are slow at an official announcement
[01:21] <krytarik> Hahaha, see it worked on you too! :P
[01:22] <krytarik> Neither part of the codename was ever spelt in all uppercase - so this is what got me suspicious immediately.
[01:24] <Wild_Man> I see, I try to take things at face value
[01:34] <krytarik> Tbh, the OMG Ubuntu post on it isn't too unfunny written.. >_>
[17:12] <Bashing-om> Start the gdoc's migration to the wiki now ?
[17:13] <krytarik> Could do, yes.
[17:13] <Bashing-om> gonna begin creating the wiki page :)
[17:49] <Bashing-om> gdoc is coppied to the new wiki - issue 526 :) Next who up ?
[17:52] <krytarik> Start doing the data gathering bits?
[17:54] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Sure I can do that - does not matter who does what so long as we keep up with the "order of operations" :P
[17:54] <krytarik> (Leave the updates one to me like last time though.)
[17:55] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I be slow but I will work at it .
[17:56] <krytarik> I mean can of course share the tasks with Wild_Man too - but myself I'd like to meddle less with it to get you two the necessary experience.
[17:58] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Oh most certainly agree .. I work at that learning experience . I just be real slow and careful .
[17:59] <Bashing-om> As only one can be in the wiki at a time .. just falls on who has the time and motivation to get it done .
[18:00] <krytarik> Not quite - like the last time, when I just pasted the stuff I gathered for you to copy into it.
[18:35] <Bashing-om> krytarik: caught up and awaiting :) awaiting too to 'save' .
[18:35] <krytarik> You can save at any time.. :P
[18:37] <Bashing-om> gonna save at this time :) - I feel the better -  and done .
[18:46] <Wild_Man> Looks like you are way ahead of the game
[18:47] <Wild_Man> I would have put it on the wiki tonight but my days are pretty busy at the moment
[18:48] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I have the time .. and need the practice to make perfect :)
[18:49] <Wild_Man> Okay, I just do not want you to feel like you have to do it all, thanks! :)
[18:50] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I have a hard day outside tomorrow so will be late before I can re-focus on UWN .
[18:53] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Any heart-burn if I go ahead and add the images to the wiki page at this time ?
[18:57] <krytarik> No, of course not - just like the last time.  And sorry, busy with other things right now (scripting..), gonna have a look at what you got there yet a bit later.
[18:57] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, imo no need to wait on that and we need to also remove the sections we are not going to use, I can do that if you want me too/
[18:59] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I was going wait to remove the comments and such until we were sure all additionas were complete.
[19:00] <Wild_Man> they are we do not need to add anything else this late, yesterday was the deadline
[19:06] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Ya want to do the " Ubuntu Forums Top 5 Threads " prior to removing comments and remove the unused sections ?
[19:17] <Wild_Man> Yes I will do it
[19:29] <Wild_Man> krytarik, I can not find where we talked about the criteria you used to get the links from the forum when you do the search, I have looked through my logs, can you post it here and I will paste it to my file for future reference? Thanks! I have to run out for a little bit but not long
[19:34] <krytarik> Wild_Man: It's all in the comments on the section - when you just visit the link posted there, it'll already have set the right search criteria.
[20:05] <krytarik> Bashing-om: So I just a first quick look at the page - if you'd like to drop the comments and unused sections, then I'd do the 1.) forums section, 2.) updates section as promised, 3.) fix all things still left, and 4.) post the end result plus diff for you.
[20:06] <Bashing-om> krytarik: more than willing but Wild_Man has said he would do .
[20:09] <krytarik> Well, the one who gets to it first, has the lock..
[20:12] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Wild_Man :: I have the time .. and will remove comments at this time :)
[20:30] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Remind me again. how do I populate the "In this Issue" section ?
[20:32] <krytarik> "./summary.pl 526"
[20:32] <krytarik> Oh, "summary-uwn.pl" actually.
[20:35] <krytarik> Doing the forums one right now.
[20:37] <Bashing-om> krytarik: i did try the foeum one, Do not inderstand what I am looking at - my result was 10 pages of posts .
[20:40] <krytarik> http://paste.openstack.org/show/PGFlDTnuR3MwPJjUcMfp/
[20:40] <krytarik> Yes, that's also covered by the comment.
[20:42] <Bashing-om> sorry for denseness. do not get how to get how to do the forum top posts :( . awaiting the complete wiki beforing ruuning summary-uwn.pl .
[20:44] <krytarik> Well, once you have dropped the unused sections (and subsections like the Ubuntu membership one), you can actually already run the summary script.
[20:55] <Bashing-om> Nothing for "Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings" right ? So I can remove that section from the wiki page ?
[20:56] <krytarik> Yup.  Yup.
[21:00] <Bashing-om> krytarik: K; awaiting Updates and Security pasteings .
[21:00] <krytarik> http://paste.openstack.org/raw/W1J9YcgTDFLRQGEuB8WI/
[21:04] <onefallen> Bashing-om I have some links if you want them for Cosmic
[21:05] <onefallen> but not for  "Team Meetings"
[21:06] <krytarik> Well, this week is already done anyway - whatever you mean by "some links"
[21:07] <onefallen> for on example: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-18-10-dropping-i386-images/16715?u=wimpy
[21:08] <krytarik> Well, we've already got a post on that.
[21:08] <onefallen> still geeting my sea legs here how about: https://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-18-10-features-release-date-download/
[21:10] <Bashing-om> krytarik: updates section done . now back to the forum top posts . Still do not get it ! I can be dumber than a box of rocks :P
[21:10] <onefallen> one more if it is usefull https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/ubuntu-18-10-codename
[21:11] <Bashing-om> onefallen: We have passed on that one also .. will await the final to report :)
[21:11] <krytarik> Bashing-om: The missing space in "67575(+190)" and some occurrences of camelcase not being covered yet are further things I've immediately spotted - if you wanna fix those already too.. :)
[21:12] <Bashing-om> krytarik: on ot .. for the space and CamelCases .
[21:12] <krytarik> Bashing-om: And well, I've also already pasted the forums stuff above.
[21:13] <onefallen> krytarik tell me what would make me usefull here>>>Tell the new kid what I can add as far as Summaries
[21:14] <Bashing-om> thunder here .. I may loose power . looking at the radar next .
[21:14] <krytarik> onefallen: Well, right now just hold off until the new week with another issue starts. :)
[21:15] <Wild_Man> I am back for a few minutes then have to eat and will be back
[21:15] <onefallen> Sounds Good
[21:15] <Wild_Man> hello onefallen
[21:15] <Wild_Man> can you still log into the forum?
[21:16] <krytarik> Wild_Man: I think we've got it all covered (did forums myself) or will have shortly.
[21:16] <onefallen> Hello Wild_Man I was able to login to UF with Old Acoount still.
[21:16] <Wild_Man> what about new account?
[21:17] <Wild_Man> the old account is disabled so I do not think you can post from it
[21:17] <onefallen> Ha! Don't want to push that yet>>but it lets me in to LP (New Account)
[21:18] <krytarik> onefallen: https://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-18-10-features-release-date-download/ - we already got that covered too.
[21:18] <Wild_Man> okay will if you have an issue let me know and we will work it out that I have access too, did you apply to join the wiki team I sent you the link to yet?
[21:19] <onefallen> the old account is disabled>>not the email used with 1fallen
[21:19] <Wild_Man> ok, I can disable the email if you want to reuse that email address
[21:19] <onefallen> @krytarik Good to here just making sure
[21:20] <onefallen> No don't disable that email please!
[21:20] <krytarik> onefallen: The only thing that isn't covered yet and won't be until there is a full codename announced is... that.
[21:22] <onefallen> Ok krytarik if I see any news I will add it here then, if not alrerady done
[21:22] <krytarik> Yeah, I believe everyone will pretty soon know of it then.. :D
[21:23] <Wild_Man> onefallen, did you apply to join the wiki team I sent you the link to yet?
[21:23] <onefallen> Yes i did WILD_maN
[21:24] <Wild_Man> Okay!
[21:24] <onefallen> OMG I hate this keyboard
[21:35] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Caught up. can I now run the summary-uwn.pl script while I am in editing mode in the wiki ?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Going over my head again is the "This gets added right before you publish bullet points of table of contents" .
[21:40] <krytarik> Well, if you wanna copy the page content to a local file and pass that to the script instead, then yes.  Otherwise it can only get the currently published state of the page, of course.
[21:45] <krytarik> Oh also, like I said the last time, feel free to add instructions on using the script to the comment on the summary section in the template.
[21:46] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Will wait and do the "table of contents" . can I run the summary-uwn.pl script while I am still in editing mode in the wiki ?
[21:46] <krytarik> See above.
[21:46] <krytarik> Otherwise yes.
[21:47] <Bashing-om> krytarik: If I understood what I was doing, I would not be such and ass .
[21:47] <krytarik> I.e. you have to save it first, but then it doesn't matter if you still linger in the editor.
[21:48] <Bashing-om> K
[21:56] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Nope, do not know what I am doing. I copied the table of contents to local file as "toc526' and ran ' ./summary-uwn.pl /home/sysop/work/toc526 ' . I did not see any result (??) .
[21:58] <krytarik> Well, yoo have to copy the plain text of the whole page - i.e. ctrl+a → ctrl+c from the editor.
[21:59] <krytarik> Yooo! :D
[22:02] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Oh ! .. try'n once more :)
[22:09] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I do not see any result . ctl+a - ctl+c ( the entire wiki edit ) - paste to local file and ran "./summary-uwn.pl /home/sysop/work/toc526
[22:09] <Bashing-om> " . What am I missing ?
[22:10] <krytarik> Well, that should be it..
[22:11] <krytarik> Care to "pastebinit /home/sysop/work/toc526" just for fun?
[22:12] <Bashing-om> krytarik: http://termbin.com/fgbd
[22:12] <krytarik> "LOL"
[22:13] <Bashing-om> I say again .. I do not know what I am doing :P
[22:14] <krytarik> (You didn't copy the whole page as explained, but again just the generated ToC.)
[22:15] <krytarik> "i.e. ctrl+a → ctrl+c from the editor" - notice the bit about the editor too.
[22:15] <Wild_Man> http://paste.openstack.org/show/720445/
[22:17] <krytarik> Bashing-om: The above can only be based on the currently published state of the page, of course - so if you got any changes still pending...
[22:22] <krytarik> You forgot to drop the security updates in too btw.  And some minor formatting issues also.
[22:22] <Bashing-om> krytarik: The only change I am currently aware of is to remove "WORK IN PROGRESS" - If we all agree we are done .
[22:23] <krytarik> So you saved all of your changes yet?
[22:28] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Yup - saved now .
[22:29] <Bashing-om> we need to verify all links ?
[22:29] <krytarik> Naw.
[22:30] <Bashing-om> Agreed links are good .. we all done ?
[22:30] <krytarik> Naw.
[22:30] <krytarik> (Hold on.)
[22:35] <krytarik> "Ask (and answer!) questions at: https://askubuntu.com/" - oooh, we could add something similar for the forums subsection too!
[22:36] <krytarik> (You two feel free to come up with a proper (different) wording.)
[22:37] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I try abd see what I can come up with .. a CamelCase in the "LoCo News" where loco is not comming clean for me .
[22:41] <krytarik> Yeah, I see that now too - fixing here along with the rest.
[22:44] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: askubuntu.com/ - ubuntu forums . How about " A place to ask and contains answers to your ubuntu questions."
[22:50] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, are you shooting for one heading for ask ubuntu and the forums? instead of a heading for each?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: re-writting " Ask (and answer!) questions at: https://askubuntu.com/" .
[22:53] <krytarik> I swear, Ko Ko Ye` is just about to lose his backtick! :P
[22:53] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, FTR Asked and Answered is the same heading ask ubuntu uses in the own news letter it may be that way for conformity
[22:54] <Wild_Man> LOL
[22:55] <krytarik> Wild_Man: No, I suggested we have something similar for the forums section.
[22:56] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I tried Ko Ko Ye 's lo``co three times in different ways and could not get loco clean :(
[22:56] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Well, I indicated you should hold on..
[22:56] <Wild_Man> krytarik, it is likely the threads we find using the search terms will have replies yes but may not have the correct answer, so I do not recommend asked and answered
[22:57] <krytarik> Well, the same is true for AU too.
[22:59] <Wild_Man> Really? thought we only published there solved questions
[23:00] <Wild_Man> If you are not concerned with the heading being descriptive necessarily then it works, I do not mind either way
[23:03] <krytarik> Fwiw, that's not a heading in either case - it's mainly just to link to the respective venue.
[23:03] <krytarik> (And below the lists.)
[23:11] <krytarik> Ok, byebye trailing backtick...
[23:12] <krytarik> (I already tried to make it show literal backticks before, and it didn't work out then either..)
[23:22] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Full text: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/jDAOBl6Wo3VLOJ87wu4r/ , diff: http://paste.openstack.org/show/qfvaLKGmX9wumtysPZ1y/
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Leave the trailing link for the forum also as " Ask (and answer!) questions at: https://ubuntuforums.org/ " . Seems good to me .
[23:23] <krytarik> Like I said, it shouldn't be literally the same wording..
[23:24] <krytarik> guiverc_d: o/
[23:24] <guiverc> g'day krytarik
[23:27] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: A place of ubuntu information: https://ubuntuforums.org/
[23:28] <Wild_Man> Search solved questions at https://ubuntuforums.org/
[23:28] <Wild_Man> I am pondering on it
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Seek amd ye shall find : https://ubuntuforums.org/
[23:29] <krytarik> Or we reword the other a little too.
[23:30] <krytarik> Or we just drop the other too and be done! :P
[23:30] <Wild_Man> Search already answered questions https://ubuntuforums.org/
[23:30] <Bashing-om> krytarik: naw .. let's keep the AU link .. and come up with one for the forum .
[23:30] <Wild_Man> Search already answered questions or ask your own https://ubuntuforums.org/
[23:31] <Wild_Man> That works for me
[23:31] <krytarik> Wild_Man: But what if I got a totally new one? :'(
[23:31] <Wild_Man> krytarik, ^^^
[23:32] <krytarik> I mean already answered is fine, but...
[23:34] <Wild_Man> krytarik, did you see this? I posted it right after I realized it may bed better like this Search already answered questions or ask your own https://ubuntuforums.org/
[23:35] <krytarik> Oh, overlooked the "own" indeed..
[23:35] <Wild_Man> it was an after thought , I think about the same time you thought it
[23:36] <krytarik> But still nah...
[23:39] <Bashing-om> Ask, find & tutorials: https://ubuntuforums.org/
[23:47] <krytarik> How about: AU) "Find more questions or ask ones at: ...", forums) "Find more threads and start new ones at: ..."
[23:47] <krytarik> Erm, "or", "and"..
[23:48] <krytarik> I would go with "or" for both.
[23:49] <krytarik> I mean it's boring as heck, but..
[23:52] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Rather than applying my changes on the page individually, like previously just copy and paste the full text I posted too.
[23:53] <Bashing-om> krytarik: K' looking .
[23:54] <krytarik> Oh, or this wasn't based on my pastes at all yet.. :)